Re: PESO - Hangin' Out

Pity there aren't a few Super-Ciceros around today. Alan C -Original Message- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 4:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - Hangin' Out Oops, Marco ... I was just reading a piece on Marcus Tullius Cicero ... Sorry

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Hey, no problem. It could have been worse. Thanks for the kind words. m > On Jul 21, 2016, at 7:43 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > Oops, Marco ... I was just reading a piece on Marcus Tullius Cicero ... > Sorry! :-) > > G > >> Marco > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

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Oops, Marco ... I was just reading a piece on Marcus Tullius Cicero ... Sorry! :-) G > Marco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

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Quite wonderful, Marcus! Like it a lot. G > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: > > http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso9.html > > Comments, as always, welcomed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

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ger." Glad I did. > A rare moment! > J > > - Original Message - > From: "Marco Alpert" <ma...@alpert.com> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 4:39:04 PM > Subject: Re: PESO - Hangin' Ou

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scuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 4:39:04 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Hangin' Out Thanks, Paul! m > On Jul 20, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote: > > Nice shot. Great crop! > > Paul via phone > >> On Jul 20

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Thanks, Paul! m > On Jul 20, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > Nice shot. Great crop! > > Paul via phone > >> On Jul 20, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: >> >> Thanks, Dan, Larry and Jostein. Much appreciated. >> >> m >> >>> On Jul

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Nice shot. Great crop! Paul via phone > On Jul 20, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: > > Thanks, Dan, Larry and Jostein. Much appreciated. > > m > >> On Jul 20, 2016, at 10:26 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> >> Quite interesting and effective. >>

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Thanks, Dan, Larry and Jostein. Much appreciated. m > On Jul 20, 2016, at 10:26 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > Quite interesting and effective. > > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Marco Alpert

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Quite interesting and effective. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: > http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso9.html > > Comments, as always, welcomed. > > -Marco > > --- >

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Marco Alpert wrote: http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso9.html Comments, as always, welcomed. That's a fun one. Nice shot! -Marco --- http://www.alpert.com/marco -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

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Well done. Makes my eyes go back and forth between the faces over and over again, Intriguing. Jostein Den 19.07.2016 21.00, skrev Marco Alpert: http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso9.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco --- http://www.alpert.com/marco -- PDML

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gt; >>> -Original Message- From: Marco Alpert >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 9:00 PM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: PESO - Hangin' Out >>> >>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso9.html >>> >>>

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host of activities going on there - behind the scenes >> too. >> >> Alan C >> >> -Original Message- From: Marco Alpert >> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 9:00 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: PESO - Hangin' Out >> >

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Tuesday, July 19, 2016 9:00 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: PESO - Hangin' Out > > http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso9.html > > Comments, as always, welcomed. > > -Marco > > --- > http://www.alpert.com/marco > > -- > PDML Pen

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Excellent, Marco. A host of activities going on there - behind the scenes too. Alan C -Original Message- From: Marco Alpert Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 9:00 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Hangin' Out http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso9.html Comments

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http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso9.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco --- http://www.alpert.com/marco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

Re: PAW PESO - Hangin' Out in San Francisco

Nice photo, pleasing tonality. Good work. Lasse From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 6:42 PM Subject: PAW PESO - Hangin' Out in San Francisco This is a very early photo. I don't think I had my camera more than six or eight months

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Hi, Shel Belinkoff wrote: http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/hanging.html Is this the full version of the segment of negative you showed us before Christmas? mike

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Yes, it is, well, mostly. It's been cropped a bit to straighten out the scene and to eliminate some extraneous visual elements. Shel [Original Message] From: mike wilson http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/hanging.html Is this the full version of the segment of negative you showed us

Re: PAW PESO - Hangin' Out in San Francisco

Magnificent work. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Yes, it is, well, mostly. It's been cropped a bit to straighten out the scene and to eliminate some extraneous visual elements. Shel [Original Message] From: mike wilson http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/hanging.html Is this the full version of the

PAW PESO - Hangin' Out in San Francisco

This is a very early photo. I don't think I had my camera more than six or eight months. My girlfriend (a Nikon shooter for those who care) and I would wander around The City looking for interesting situations. One day we came across a group of about seven or eight guys hanging out on a street

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Hi Shel, It's looking quite good, but it lacks any strong blacks (at least on my monitor). However, I don't think it would benefit from more contrast as the highlights are about right. I'd go into curves and pull the bottom end until the blacks are stronger. I might also try converting to rgb

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I'm a little out of my element here, but... With a scene of black folk, do you think it's good to add black to black, just to get some deeper shadows, more contrast? It seems to be a touchy situation, and much manipulation of the black/white mix of shades might lose the gentle contrast of the

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Hi Paul ... Never saw your post, just a reference from Keith's post. There are some deep blacks in the image, but not many. I didn't want to fiddle with contrast and tonality too much until the resto work was done, but you're right, there are some areas in which there can be a little more

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Hi Keith, Paul's right in that there can be a little more depth in some areas. See my note to him if you care to look. There are ways to add depth without compromising the skin tones. I'm interested in your comment below. Why wouldn't you have made the photo? Shel [Original Message]

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The skin tones here are all medium gray. If you selectively adjust contrast with curves or add black to black with selective color, you won't affect the skin tones. Paul I'm a little out of my element here, but... With a scene of black folk, do you think it's good to add black to black,

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Paul, They're far from medium grey here. A lot closer to Zone 4 Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The skin tones here are all medium gray.

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Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Keith, Paul's right in that there can be a little more depth in some areas. See my note to him if you care to look. There are ways to add depth without compromising the skin tones. That's interesting. Seems to me, fussin' around with the dark end of the scale, with a

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Hi Keith, There are many ways to adjust the shadows without making the faces or other areas darker. As for your comments about making the photo, well, the situation wasn't quite like my approaching them and asking for and taking a pic. My GF and I were there for a while, talking, chatting,

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I replied to Keith from memory, but I took another look now. On my monitor they vary between zone 4 and 5. The slats in the fence behind them are close to zone 5. Medium gray is an ambiguous term. But I'd describe zone 5 as medium gray. However, I am running at gamma 1.8, which I mentioned in

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Hi Shel, Something just occured to me. I'm looking at this shot at work on a crap Viewsonic monitor. I sometimes forget that. I've opened my photos here at times and felt the urge to change something. I always have to remind myself that what I see here may not be real. I'll look again when I

Re: PAW PESO - Hangin' Out in San Francisco

In a message dated 1/21/2005 10:13:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are some deep blacks in the image, but not many. I didn't want to fiddle with contrast and tonality too much until the resto work was done, but you're right, there are some areas in which there can be

Re: PAW PESO - Hangin' Out in San Francisco

Hi, Like I said, people are people, and we were just being human. Well said. Nice photo - made by the guy who's standing. -- Cheers, Bob

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All excellent points and well told. You're right, of course. I'll re-read that and take it to heart. keith Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Keith, There are many ways to adjust the shadows without making the faces or other areas darker. As for your comments about making the photo, well, the situation

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:56:53 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Shel, It's looking quite good, but it lacks any strong blacks (at least on my monitor). However, I don't think it would benefit from more contrast as the highlights are about right. I'd go into curves and pull