RE: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-18 Thread Tim Øsleby
] Sent: 14. juli 2005 23:16 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Herding Livestock http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html Those little critters are hard to keep in focus when working hand held. It's pretty much hit and miss, and this is the best I've managed so far. One particular problem

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-18 Thread frank theriault
On 7/14/05, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html Those little critters are hard to keep in focus when working hand held. It's pretty much hit and miss, and this is the best I've managed so far. One particular problem with ants is that their hide is

RE: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-18 Thread Jostein
-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Herding Livestock http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html Those little critters are hard to keep in focus when working hand held. It's pretty much hit and miss, and this is the best I've managed so far. One particular problem with ants

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-18 Thread frank theriault
On 7/18/05, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Frank! Yer welcome! Btw, did you see Cotty's spider with the ringlight in every one of it's eight eyes? :-) I just did now. Thanks for the heads up, Jostein. Cool shot, Cotty! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-16 Thread brooksdj
http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html Those little critters are hard to keep in focus when working hand held. It's pretty much hit and miss, and this is the best I've managed so far. One particular problem with ants is that their hide is

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-16 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html So you had some tropical nights, hadn't you? ;-) About two weeks of them, actually. I'm not adapted for that sort of thing. Me is pulling through the hottest days of the

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-16 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html Pretty darn good for hand holding Jostein. I like the cripsness of the ants and the eriee science fiction movie feel to it. Thanks Dave. Cheers, Jostein

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-15 Thread Jostein
and maybe half a body in one frame, flash or not...:-) Jostein - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:27 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Herding Livestock Why do you need flash? Shel Jostein wrote: http

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-15 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html [...] Most impresssive shot, Jostein, Sir! You're fortunate the aphids are pretty slow movers, or you'd have a heck of a time of it! Thanks, Keith. hehe... You're right. That would

OT - pyroclastic flows (was Re: PESO - Herding Livestock)

2005-07-15 Thread Jostein
William Robb wrote: Matte spray. From: keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] You know, I thought of that too, but figured it would make them look like residents of Pompeii or Herculaneum! Speaking of which, Does anyone know if they've uncovered the villages on Montserrat after the eruptions in the

Re: OT - pyroclastic flows (was Re: PESO - Herding Livestock)

2005-07-15 Thread mike wilson
From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/07/15 Fri AM 09:45:05 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: OT - pyroclastic flows (was Re: PESO - Herding Livestock) William Robb wrote: Matte spray. From: keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] You know, I thought of that too, but figured

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-15 Thread Jostein
- Herding Livestock Jostein wrote: http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html Those little critters are hard to keep in focus when working hand held. It's pretty much hit and miss, and this is the best I've managed so far. One particular problem with ants is that their hide is hard

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-15 Thread Jostein
Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:03 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Herding Livestock Nice shot. I would probably Photoshop the highlights out of there. I don't know if a ringflash would help either. You'll still get some flash

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-15 Thread Jostein
Thanks, Markus. Now that you've said it, I might pester the list with a few more as summer passes...:-) Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 7:40 AM Subject: RE: PESO - Herding Livestock

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-15 Thread Tom Reese
Jostein wrote: IIRC, John Shaw also recomments the kitchen bowl accessory in closeups in nature. It seems more and more like a good thing to try. Thanks for nudging me in that direction. I suspect that I will need a fairly small bowl, though. I measured the working distances of various lens

Re: OT - pyroclastic flows (was Re: PESO - Herding Livestock)

2005-07-15 Thread Jostein
I wrote: Does anyone know if they've uncovered the villages on Montserrat after the eruptions in the nineties? From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I remember seeing some aerial pictures in the last three months or so that suggest not. Can't remember the URL. Google is my friend. I'll see

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-15 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jostein, I've been thinking about the actual requirements for using a bowl. You'll have to do something to keep the bowl from flopping around. My guess is that you'll need to glue a couple blocks of something (styrofoam?) on

Re: OT - pyroclastic flows (was Re: PESO - Herding Livestock)

2005-07-15 Thread Jostein
: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:44 PM Subject: Re: OT - pyroclastic flows (was Re: PESO - Herding Livestock) I wrote: Does anyone know if they've uncovered the villages on Montserrat after the eruptions in the nineties? From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I remember seeing some aerial pictures

Re: Re: OT - pyroclastic flows (was Re: PESO - Herding Livestock)

2005-07-15 Thread mike wilson
From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/07/15 Fri AM 10:44:30 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - pyroclastic flows (was Re: PESO - Herding Livestock) I wrote: Does anyone know if they've uncovered the villages on Montserrat after the eruptions in the nineties

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-15 Thread Tom Reese
Jostein wrote: When shooting with the 50mm reversed, I use a bayonet lid (with the center removed) to protect the lens contacts and the aperture lever. My thought was to glue it onto that lid. that should work but it increases the unit cost. I see a marketing opportunity for these things

Re: OT - pyroclastic flows (was Re: PESO - Herding Livestock)

2005-07-15 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Jostein wrote: Speaking of which, Does anyone know if they've uncovered the villages on Montserrat after the eruptions in the nineties? So THAT's what Ivan and Jeanne and Dennis and Emily and all their siblings are so busy working on over there!

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
What is wrong with ring flash for this type of shot? Jostein wrote: http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html Those little critters are hard to keep in focus when working hand held. It's pretty much hit and miss, and this is the best I've managed so far. One particular problem with ants

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-15 Thread Tom Reese
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: What is wrong with ring flash for this type of shot? You get doughnut shaped highlights on all the convex reflective surfaces. Tom Reese

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-15 Thread Jostein
J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 4:09 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Herding Livestock What is wrong with ring flash for this type of shot? Jostein wrote: http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html Those little critters are hard to keep in focus

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-15 Thread Jostein
Thanks, Tom. That, too. Jostein - Original Message - From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 4:27 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Herding Livestock Daniel J. Matyola wrote: What is wrong with ring flash for this type of shot? You get

Re: OT - pyroclastic flows (was Re: PESO - Herding Livestock)

2005-07-15 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] So THAT's what Ivan and Jeanne and Dennis and Emily and all their siblings are so busy working on over there! Or maybe the volcano is the reason why they're desperate to reach you in such a hurry? :-) Jostein

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-15 Thread P. J. Alling
- Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 4:09 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Herding Livestock What is wrong with ring flash for this type of shot? Jostein wrote: http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html Those

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-15 Thread Jostein
Peter, You're so predictable...:-) Jostein - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 7:35 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Herding Livestock You know you want one. Jostein wrote: Dan, I think the Pentax (for example

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-15 Thread P. J. Alling
:35 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Herding Livestock You know you want one. Jostein wrote: Dan, I think the Pentax (for example) ring flash has two tubes, and one can choose to fire one or both in each blink. When using both tubes, one ends up without shadows. That usually looks quite unnatural

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/7/05, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed: Besides, I don't have a ring flash, and fear the enablement powers of this forum...:-) The one I have allows turning either tube down in 1/8th power steps. :-) Nut better than a ring flash is one of these: http://tinyurl.com/93kcg Is there a

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/7/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed: You get doughnut shaped highlights on all the convex reflective surfaces. Like this: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/nature/images/pic24.html But with lots of things it doesn't matter: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/nature/images/pic20.html

PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-14 Thread Jostein
http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html Those little critters are hard to keep in focus when working hand held. It's pretty much hit and miss, and this is the best I've managed so far. One particular problem with ants is that their hide is hard and shiny. With a bare flash, the

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jostein Subject: PESO - Herding Livestock http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html Those little critters are hard to keep in focus when working hand held. It's pretty much hit and miss, and this is the best I've managed so far. One particular

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-14 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know a good way to handle this [specular highlights] without resorting to ring flashes? Matte spray. LOL.

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Wow! Very interesting shot showing the ants at work. Nice work! -- Bruce Thursday, July 14, 2005, 2:16:18 PM, you wrote: J http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html J Those little critters are hard to keep in focus when working hand J held. It's pretty much hit and miss, and this is the

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Why do you need flash? Shel Jostein wrote: http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html One particular problem with ants is that their hide is hard and shiny. With a bare flash, the highlights become specular and burned out. Using a miniature softbox lessen the problem, but it's

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-14 Thread keithw
Jostein wrote: http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html Those little critters are hard to keep in focus when working hand held. It's pretty much hit and miss, and this is the best I've managed so far. One particular problem with ants is that their hide is hard and shiny. With a bare

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/7/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: Why do you need flash? Not essential, but with flash you can stop right down and get the best DOF available from the lens, and obviously use a higher shutter speed accordingly. The problem with close flash like a ringflash is that it

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice shot. I would probably Photoshop the highlights out of there. I don't know if a ringflash would help either. You'll still get some flash burn. On Jul 14, 2005, at 5:16 PM, Jostein wrote: http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html Those little critters are hard to keep in focus when

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
You need a small stop to get any depth of field. The resulting shutter speed is probably too slow to handhold without flash. Paul On Jul 14, 2005, at 6:27 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Why do you need flash? Shel Jostein wrote: http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html One particular

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-14 Thread keithw
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Jostein Subject: PESO - Herding Livestock http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html Those little critters are hard to keep in focus when working hand held. It's pretty much hit and miss, and this is the best I've managed so far

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-14 Thread Tom Reese
Jostein wrote: http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html Those little critters are hard to keep in focus when working hand held. It's pretty much hit and miss, and this is the best I've managed so far. One particular problem with ants is that their hide is hard and shiny. With a bare

RE: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-14 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Jostein keep up the work, very good already, I like it a lot. greetings Markus -Original Message- From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 11:16 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Herding Livestock http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html