Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-17 Thread John Celio
Nevertheless, it was a referendum by popular vote. Civil rights should not be left for the masses to take away as they see fit. If southern states had voted on civil rights for minorities during the 1960s, do you really think anything would have changed? No. There will always be a part of

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-17 Thread PN Stenquist
Far too much anger here. That never solves problems. But I'll have no more to say about it. Paul On Nov 16, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 16, 2008, at 7:42 PM, PN Stenquist wrote: In an earlier post you called the Mormons fundamentalist radicals. No. I said that

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 17, 2008, at 4:54 AM, PN Stenquist wrote: Far too much anger here. That never solves problems. But I'll have no more to say about it. Paul What a ridiculous assertion! Do you think the colonists of the American Revolution were not angry? If they weren't, we'd all be shouting Hail

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-16 Thread John Celio
From the No On Proposition 8 rally today in San Jose ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/167-rights.jpg Rights! - San Jose 2008 There were Gay Rights rallies all across the US and around the world today, and I went to the one in San Francisco. It was the biggest political event I've ever

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-16 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Nov 16, 2008, at 11:29 , John Celio wrote: From the No On Proposition 8 rally today in San Jose ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/167-rights.jpg Rights! - San Jose 2008 There were Gay Rights rallies all across the US and around the world today, and I went to the one in San Francisco.

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-16 Thread ann sanfedele
Joseph McAllister wrote: On Nov 16, 2008, at 11:29 , John Celio wrote: From the No On Proposition 8 rally today in San Jose ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/167-rights.jpg Rights! - San Jose 2008 There were Gay Rights rallies all across the US and around the world today, and I went

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-16 Thread PN Stenquist
Silliness. The law is based on a majority vote. That's how it works in a democracy. And it isn't about rights, it's about terminology. Marriage vs. Civil Union. Much ado about nothing. Paul On Nov 16, 2008, at 3:05 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: On Nov 16, 2008, at 11:29 , John Celio wrote:

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-16 Thread John Celio
Silliness. The law is based on a majority vote. That's how it works in a democracy. And it isn't about rights, it's about terminology. Marriage vs. Civil Union. Much ado about nothing. Separate but equal is never equal. John -- http://www.neovenator.com

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 16, 2008, at 1:07 PM, PN Stenquist wrote: Silliness. The law is based on a majority vote. That's how it works in a democracy. And it isn't about rights, it's about terminology. Marriage vs. Civil Union. Much ado about nothing. Without want to delve too deeply into the politics of

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-16 Thread John Celio
Hear hear, Godfrey. I wish I could be as eloquent as you. This issue only makes my temper flare hotter than the fires of a thousand suns. I look forward to your other related photos. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-16 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 16, 2008, at 1:07 PM, PN Stenquist wrote: Silliness. The law is based on a majority vote. That's how it works in a democracy. And it isn't about rights, it's about terminology. Marriage vs. Civil Union. Much ado

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-16 Thread PN Stenquist
Nevertheless, it was a referendum by popular vote. Not a referendum on rights, but on the definition of a word that many hold sacred. The Mormons aren't fundamentalist radicals. They're Mormons, and we have to respect their beliefs and their right to express them at the ballot box and

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-16 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 16, 2008, at 17:53, PN Stenquist wrote: It's interesting that the left is very supportive of democracy until things don't go their way. Then they demonstrate. And turn to violence. The anti-prop-8 demonstration I attended yesterday was very peaceful. Not a hint of violence

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-16 Thread PN Stenquist
That's good news, and it's a departure from some of the earlier demonstrations, such as the one where demonstrators ripped a cross out of the hands of an elderly woman and stomped on it. Perhaps this can all end peacefully. If the issue appears on the ballot again, it will probably go the

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-16 Thread Ken Waller
Uh oh ... Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF) Silliness. The law is based on a majority vote. That's how it works in a democracy. And it isn't about

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 16, 2008, at 3:53 PM, PN Stenquist wrote: Nevertheless, it was a referendum by popular vote. Not a referendum on rights, but on the definition of a word that many hold sacred. The Mormons aren't fundamentalist radicals. They're Mormons, and we have to respect their beliefs and their

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-16 Thread PN Stenquist
On Nov 16, 2008, at 10:22 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: So quick to label, so quick to call others names, without even a glimmer of understanding or compassion ... bought the line from the Yes on H8 crowd hook, line and sinker. You must be truly scared to lose that which is precious to

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-16 Thread P. J. Alling
There are so many problems with this analogy that it just hurts to think about them. John Celio wrote: Silliness. The law is based on a majority vote. That's how it works in a democracy. And it isn't about rights, it's about terminology. Marriage vs. Civil Union. Much ado about nothing.

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 16, 2008, at 7:42 PM, PN Stenquist wrote: In an earlier post you called the Mormons fundamentalist radicals. No. I said that Massive contributions to its promotion were funded by the Mormon Church and *other* fundamentalist radicals. The list of whom is published here:

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-15 Thread John Celio
Godfrey wrote: From the No On Proposition 8 rally today in San Jose ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/167-rights.jpg Rights! - San Jose 2008 There were Gay Rights rallies all across the US and around the world today, and I went to the one in San Francisco. It was the biggest political

Re: PESO 2008 - 167 - GDG (related pics from SF)

2008-11-15 Thread Joseph McAllister
The one with the Lincoln statue strikes me, but I'm not sure in what context. Yes, the last pic is a hoot (as he heads for the cupboard for 1/2 a Symphony 3.5 oz.). On Nov 15, 2008, at 20:20 , John Celio wrote: Godfrey wrote: From the No On Proposition 8 rally today in San Jose ...