RE: Pentax K7

2012-09-24 Thread J.C. O'Connell
11:32 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: FS: Pentax K7 Sorry to do this on a non-Friday, but I'm leaving town for a week on Friday and I wanted to begin the process. Pentax k7, about 1550 shutter activations. Mildly used, excellent condition Original box, software, manual, strap, body cap

Re: Pentax K7

2012-09-24 Thread P. J. Alling
[mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steven Desjardins Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 11:32 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: FS: Pentax K7 Sorry to do this on a non-Friday, but I'm leaving town for a week on Friday and I wanted to begin the process. Pentax k7, about 1550 shutter

Pentax K7 (and Steve) make sweet love to the Leica S2

2010-02-22 Thread Derby Chang
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Re: Pentax K7 (and Steve) make sweet love to the Leica S2

2010-02-22 Thread eckinator
looks massive and from what i read it is great 2010/2/22 Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au: http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2010/02/21/leica-s2-first-look-video/ -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax K7 (and Steve) make sweet love to the Leica S2

2010-02-22 Thread Igor Roshchin
Ghm... The maximum ISO is just 1250. I was glad to see the turn-knob for the shutter setting (that was one of the reasons I bought Pentax ZX-5n some 12 years ago), but I was disappointed that so many settings are hidden in the menu. Anyway, I won't be able to afford it any time soon. Igor

RE: Pentax K7 (and Steve) make sweet love to the Leica S2

2010-02-22 Thread Bob W
It's not as big as it looks. I had a play with one last year and it's very light while retaining a high quality feel. The viewfinder is the best I've ever looked through by a long, long margin. I'm expecting to win the lottery this weekend, so I'll probably buy a couple of those next week. Bob

Re: Pentax K7 vs Panasonic GH1 comparison

2009-08-01 Thread Derby Chang
P. J. Alling wrote: You can publish anything on the internet... http://web500.us/pentax-k-7-and-panasonic-gh1-comparison/ Kennyboy and RiceWhine had a child, who was given a keyboard... Thanks Peter. The whole site is so entertainly useless, I'm bookmarking it for return enjoyment. This

Pentax K7 vs Panasonic GH1 comparison

2009-07-31 Thread P. J. Alling
You can publish anything on the internet... http://web500.us/pentax-k-7-and-panasonic-gh1-comparison/ Kennyboy and RiceWhine had a child, who was given a keyboard... -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he

Re: Pentax K7 vs Panasonic GH1 comparison

2009-07-31 Thread David J Brooks
Hey, Pentax is up to semi pro. One giant leap Dave On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:09 AM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: You can publish anything on the internet... http://web500.us/pentax-k-7-and-panasonic-gh1-comparison/ Kennyboy and RiceWhine had a child, who was given

Re: Pentax K7 vs Panasonic GH1 comparison

2009-07-31 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: Pentax K7 vs Panasonic GH1 comparison Hey, Pentax is up to semi pro. One giant leap yeah, and it's better than a 4/3 camera too. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman

Re: Pentax K7 vs Panasonic GH1 comparison

2009-07-31 Thread P. J. Alling
I got the impression that it was a bit like comparing an apple to an orange to decide which made a better banana. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: Pentax K7 vs Panasonic GH1 comparison Hey, Pentax is up to semi pro. One giant leap

Re: Pentax K7 vs Panasonic GH1 comparison

2009-07-31 Thread David J Brooks
- From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: Pentax K7 vs Panasonic GH1 comparison Hey, Pentax is up to semi pro. One giant leap yeah, and it's better than a 4/3 camera too. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax K7 vs Panasonic GH1 comparison

2009-07-31 Thread P. J. Alling
them, I did a little reading there last night, until my head exploded. Dave William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: Pentax K7 vs Panasonic GH1 comparison Hey, Pentax is up to semi pro. One giant leap yeah, and it's better than a 4/3

Re: Pentax K7 vs Panasonic GH1 comparison

2009-07-31 Thread mike wilson
David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, Pentax is up to semi pro. One giant leap Dave Well, it was on 31st May. _Before_ the K-7 was released. Now.. On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:09 AM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: You can publish anything

Re: Pentax K7 vs Panasonic GH1 comparison

2009-07-31 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:23 AM, mike wilsonm.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, Pentax is up to semi pro. One giant leap Dave Well, it was on 31st May.  _Before_ the K-7 was released. So KR must have done his review on the 30th

Re: Pentax K7 vs Panasonic GH1 comparison

2009-07-31 Thread Pasvorn Boonmark
I heard on the Internet that if you write a review blog, you get stuffs for free. -Pasvorn On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:09 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: You can publish anything on the internet... http://web500.us/pentax-k-7-and-panasonic-gh1-comparison/ Kennyboy and

Re: Pentax K7 vs Panasonic GH1 comparison

2009-07-31 Thread Miserere
2009/7/31 Pasvorn Boonmark pasv...@boonmark.net: I heard on the Internet that if you write a review blog, you get stuffs for free. -Pasvorn True. I get loads of free headaches and agro. Haven't reviewed any of them yet, though. --M. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

RE: Pentax K7

2009-05-22 Thread Desjardins, Steve
: Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:13 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax K7 Okay, I'm sold. I've been trying to talk myself out of it, but the list won't let me:-) Paul On May 20, 2009, at 3:27 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Desjardins, Steve Subject: RE: Pentax K7 Good, our work is done. Seriously, I'm very encouraged by this camera. Pentax is a small company competing with much a lot of pre-established opinions about what they are and what their competitors

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-22 Thread John Francis
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 08:57:03AM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Desjardins, Steve Subject: RE: Pentax K7 Good, our work is done. Seriously, I'm very encouraged by this camera. Pentax is a small company competing with much a lot of pre

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-22 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Desjardins, Steve desjard...@wlu.edu wrote: snip  This is a very well built camera with many genuinely useful features and a reasonable collection of good lenses.  This is all I want Pentax to be. snip You're so demanding! ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness

RE: Pentax K7

2009-05-22 Thread JC OConnell
: Friday, May 22, 2009 12:42 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax K7 On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 08:57:03AM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Desjardins, Steve Subject: RE: Pentax K7 Good, our work is done. Seriously, I'm very encouraged

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-21 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:50 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On May 20, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: In the OK1000 preview (from the blog at http://www.ok1000pentax.com/2009/05/pentax-k-7-hands-on-preview.html), Pentax Product Manager Chris Pound is quoted as

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-21 Thread P. J. Alling
This is already a game changer, it's not aimed at Nikon or Canon, it's aimed squarely at Olympus and their e-3. It competes nicely in the middle of the pack of APS-C mid range cameras from Nikon and Canon, but it's clearly meant to give Olympus sales managers hives. Now if they could only

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-21 Thread mike wilson
Douglas Smith d...@cix.co.uk wrote: Well Pentax UK now have the K7 in their products http://www.pentax.co.uk/en/product/17531/body/overview/Photo_Digital_SLR.html The K-7 is built exceptional solid and durable... O rly? Joseph McAllister wrote: Don't know if others have figured

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-21 Thread AlunFoto
Fingers crossed, of course. New products are interesting. But they're officially developing the 645D again now. Bet a substantial number of their RD people are busy with that. It's probably getting a complete makeover from the previously shown prototype. So I'm pessimistic about an eventual K30D

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-21 Thread paul stenquist
Okay, I'm sold. But I probably won't be getting on the boat with the pilgrims this time. Paul On May 21, 2009, at 3:20 AM, Adam Maas wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:50 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On May 20, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: In the OK1000

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-21 Thread Thibouille
A new dslr is scheduled, end of the year. Will sit between K-m and K-7, K20D should go EOL at the same time. IMO 645D processing is the same as K-7 (just as previous prototype had K10D processing). And the K-? coming should have simplified K-7 processing and simplified K-7 body. It may have a

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-21 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:50:30PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote: That kind of thinking leads me to believe we may still see a higher spec K30D later this year. The K7 is nice, but it isn't the game changer that some were predicting a few weeks ago. Paul According to a

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-21 Thread Doug Brewer
John Francis wrote: According to a posting on the dpreview forums from JohnCPentax (who appears to work at Pentax USA) you're going to be disappointed. The K-7 *is* what was planned as the K30D, so there won't be one. JohnCPentax does indeed work at Pentax. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-21 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: JohnCPentax does indeed work at Pentax. With a name like that he's not going to get a job at Nikon! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-21 Thread Doug Brewer
frank theriault wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: JohnCPentax does indeed work at Pentax. With a name like that he's not going to get a job at Nikon! won't need to, being heir to the Pentax fortune and all. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: Pentax K7

2009-05-21 Thread John Celio
According to a posting on the dpreview forums from JohnCPentax (who appears to work at Pentax USA) you're going to be disappointed. The K-7 *is* what was planned as the K30D, so there won't be one. JohnCPentax does indeed work at Pentax. And oh how I wish he was me. John Celio (Pentax is

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
On May 21, 2009, at 3:34 PM, John Celio wrote: According to a posting on the dpreview forums from JohnCPentax (who appears to work at Pentax USA) you're going to be disappointed. The K-7 *is* what was planned as the K30D, so there won't be one. JohnCPentax does indeed work at Pentax. And

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-21 Thread paul stenquist
Okay, I'm sold. I've been trying to talk myself out of it, but the list won't let me:-) Paul On May 20, 2009, at 3:27 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: Pentax K7 Why not? The K-7 is only a bit better speced than the K20D. Delete

Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Roman Melihhov
Even though it has several improvements from K20SD I don'yt think I shall run breaking my money pig and rush to the nearest photo shop. Most of the time I don't need more FPS and HD video - what for my colleagues at imaging company has their HD video cameras that make up to 1080p videos. And for

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Anthony Farr
Well, the official spec, for German readers, is here: http://www.glanzbilder.org/2009/05/20/pentax-k-7-specs/ regards, Anthony 2009/5/20 Roman Melihhov ro...@blakout.net: Even though it has several improvements from K20SD I don'yt think I shall run breaking my money pig and rush to the

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Dario Bonazza
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Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm disappointed to see that the autofocus systems appears to be basically the same, with just new firmware to support it. I'm beginning to suspect that the next camera, perhaps a K30D, will be a bit more of an upgrade. I may wait. Price will have a lot to do with determining whether or

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: Pentax K7 I'm disappointed to see that the autofocus systems appears to be basically the same, with just new firmware to support it. I'm beginning to suspect that the next camera, perhaps a K30D, will be a bit more

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Graydon
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 09:01:42AM -0600, William Robb scripsit: [snip] I'd like to see an articulated screen, I think it would be very handy for ground level macro work in conjunction with live view, but certainly this isn't more than a nit pick. I would much rather see an accessory screen

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Margus Männik
Don't be so sure :) BRM Thibouille wrote: There will be no K30D. But waiting can only reders the K-7 cheaper. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Graydon Subject: Re: Pentax K7 I would much rather see an accessory screen with a 2m cable and controls similar to those provided on the grip. No need to weather-seal a complex rotating electrical connection, one can really hide in the bird blind

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread John Francis
I pretty much agree. One point where I'm dubious, though, is what chassis we will see. Hoya have put a premium on size, so I'm not sure that a K30D would show up in a K20D chassis. Maybe we'll see something that can use the D-BG4 grip, not the D-BG2. (Or, as you suggest, a K200D body, which

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Margus Männik
Wireless would be the magic word. Cables are out, it's AD 2009 here. BR, Margus John Francis wrote: And not just for nature photography, either. I'd love to be able to use live view at a distance, and a wireless remote, for shots where you can't have a photographer standing in the best

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread paul stenquist
On May 20, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Thibouille wrote: There will be a camera end of the year indeed. But there will be 3 cameras total in the lineup. No way Pentax will bring higher spec body than K-7 6 months later. Why not? The K-7 is only a bit better speced than the K20D. Delete the video

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Nick Wright
Good Lord! After months of torturing us with rumors and speculation about the camera they've JUST ANNOUNCED TODAY, you all are ALREADY yabbering about the NEXT camera! Does it ever end!?!!?! *winkwink* -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Adam Maas
Which is a feature Nikon already offers on the D300/D700/D3/D3x when you pair it with the Wifi dongle and a laptop running Camera Control Pro. Live view feed to the laptop with remote control of the camera. -Adam 2009/5/20 Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee: Wireless would be the magic word. Cables

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Graydon
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 02:08:14PM -0400, John Francis scripsit: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:44:39AM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Graydon I would much rather see an accessory screen with a 2m cable and controls similar to those provided on the grip. No

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Graydon
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 01:26:53PM -0500, Nick Wright scripsit: Good Lord! After months of torturing us with rumors and speculation about the camera they've JUST ANNOUNCED TODAY, you all are ALREADY yabbering about the NEXT camera! Does it ever end!?!!?! Actually, this is probably something

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote: one can only hope that with 5fps available, they've upped AF performance significantly as well. Seems so: http://surfdoc.blogspot.com/2009/05/initial-impressions-of-pentax-k7.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
One report said that there will be a K30D later this year. We'll see. Paul On May 20, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Thibouille wrote: There will be no K30D. But waiting can only reders the K-7 cheaper. It is seems there's a real difference in AF, but we'll have to wait for tests to know more. On Wed,

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Adam Maas
You are assuming, incorrectly I believe, that the K20D replacement will be higher-spec than the K7. I don't expect that to be the case. The K20D replacement will most likely be a 3-3.5fps body based on the K20D chassis with the K7's processing engine. I expect it to retain the basic features of

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Graydon
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 01:28:16PM -0400, paul stenquist scripsit: Why not? The K-7 is only a bit better speced than the K20D. That depends very heavily on what the image quality improvement actually is. We have at present no way to know if it's marginal or major, and the available information

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread John Francis
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 01:28:16PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote: On May 20, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Thibouille wrote: There will be a camera end of the year indeed. But there will be 3 cameras total in the lineup. No way Pentax will bring higher spec body than K-7 6 months later. Why not? The K-7

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread John Francis
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 01:26:53PM -0500, Nick Wright wrote: Good Lord! After months of torturing us with rumors and speculation about the camera they've JUST ANNOUNCED TODAY, you all are ALREADY yabbering about the NEXT camera! Does it ever end!?!!?! *winkwink* Never. Where would we be

RE: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread John Whittingham
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of paul stenquist [pnstenqu...@comcast.net] Sent: 20 May 2009 18:28 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax K7 On May 20, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Thibouille wrote: There will be a camera end of the year

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread John Francis
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:44:39AM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Graydon Subject: Re: Pentax K7 I would much rather see an accessory screen with a 2m cable and controls similar to those provided on the grip. No need to weather-seal a complex

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Thibouille
There will be a camera end of the year indeed. But there will be 3 cameras total in the lineup. No way Pentax will bring higher spec body than K-7 6 months later. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: One report said that there will be a K30D later this

RE: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Bob W
Good Lord! After months of torturing us with rumors and speculation about the camera they've JUST ANNOUNCED TODAY, you all are ALREADY yabbering about the NEXT camera! Does it ever end!?!!?! *winkwink* The K7 is just a taster of what's to come. I don't want to say too much for fear of

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Thibouille
There will be no K30D. But waiting can only reders the K-7 cheaper. It is seems there's a real difference in AF, but we'll have to wait for tests to know more. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I'm disappointed to see that the autofocus systems

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com wrote: Good Lord! After months of torturing us with rumors and speculation about the camera they've JUST ANNOUNCED TODAY, you all are ALREADY yabbering about the NEXT camera! Does it ever end!?!!?! *winkwink* It never

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: Pentax K7 Why not? The K-7 is only a bit better speced than the K20D. Delete the video capability, add improved autofocus and perhaps even more low light capability. Aim it at a more serious photographer. I wouldn't

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Dario Bonazza
William Robb wrote: Finally, a 100% viewfinder. This will be a joy after years of using innacurate viewfinders. I think the last accurate finder I used was in my Nikon F3. Even the LX isn't 100%. How can any optical viewfinder be accurate when the sensor floats? Dario -- PDML

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Dario Bonazza wrote: William Robb wrote: Finally, a 100% viewfinder. This will be a joy after years of using innacurate viewfinders. I think the last accurate finder I used was in my Nikon F3. Even the LX isn't 100%. How can any optical viewfinder be accurate when the sensor floats? The

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Christine Aguila
I know my tech knowledge isn't that fluent, but I have to say I'm pretty darn excited about this camera, and I'm excited for Pentax. I hope it sells well for the company, and after reading DPR review and Dimalanta's brief impressions, I have to say I may be doing some serious saving to get

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza Subject: Re: Pentax K7 William Robb wrote: Finally, a 100% viewfinder. This will be a joy after years of using innacurate viewfinders. I think the last accurate finder I used was in my Nikon F3. Even the LX isn't 100%. How can any

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Jack Davis
--- On Wed, 5/20/09, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: From: John Francis jo...@panix.com Subject: Re: Pentax K7 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 10:59 AM On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 01:28:16PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote: On May 20, 2009, at 1

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: Pentax K7 The official specs do say *Approx.* 100% I'm going by the DPReview published specs which says: . Eye-level pentaprism . 100% frame coverage William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Joseph McAllister
On May 20, 2009, at 08:11 , Graydon wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 09:01:42AM -0600, William Robb scripsit: [snip] I'd like to see an articulated screen, I think it would be very handy for ground level macro work in conjunction with live view, but certainly this isn't more than a nit pick.

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote: From: Mark Roberts The official specs do say *Approx.* 100% I'm going by the DPReview published specs which says: . Eye-level pentaprism . 100% frame coverage Here's a copy of the official data sheet: http://www.priyantha.nl/tweakers/pentax/K7/K7_press_6.jpg -- PDML

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On May 20, 2009, at 08:11 , Graydon wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 09:01:42AM -0600, William Robb scripsit: [snip] I'd like to see an articulated screen, I think it would be very handy for ground level macro work in

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Thibouille
Indeed which is why the spec says approximately 100%. That's why LiveView is for, or turn off SR: we have the choice. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: William Robb wrote: Finally, a 100% viewfinder. This will be a joy after years of using

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: Pentax - the camera with the Khan-do attitude, and a pop-up yurt. Genghis I'm going to wait for the model with the pop-up pleasure dome. Kublai. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Joseph McAllister
On May 20, 2009, at 10:28 , paul stenquist wrote: On May 20, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Thibouille wrote: There will be a camera end of the year indeed. But there will be 3 cameras total in the lineup. No way Pentax will bring higher spec body than K-7 6 months later. Why not? The K-7 is only a bit

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Joseph McAllister
On May 20, 2009, at 10:37 , Graydon wrote: So it makes a great deal more sense for it to be something between the K-m and the K-7; I'd expect roughly equivalent K20D image capability in the new smaller body factor. I'm tweaked about just the fact of having an LCD monitor with 4x the

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread P. J. Alling
Aw Crap. Now I'm going to have to buy one. Dario Bonazza wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/pentaxk7/ Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Joseph McAllister
Don't know if others have figured out the dpreview page that Dario pointed us to, but it has 12 sections of from 2 to 5 pages each (printed on A4) that give sooo much information as to be overwhelming, even for a K20 user. The selections are made from the top of the page. On May 20, 2009,

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Joseph McAllister
On May 20, 2009, at 13:00 , William Robb wrote: William Robb wrote: Finally, a 100% viewfinder. This will be a joy after years of using innacurate viewfinders. I think the last accurate finder I used was in my Nikon F3. Even the LX isn't 100%. How can any optical viewfinder be accurate

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Douglas Smith
Well Pentax UK now have the K7 in their products http://www.pentax.co.uk/en/product/17531/body/overview/Photo_Digital_SLR.html Joseph McAllister wrote: Don't know if others have figured out the dpreview page that Dario pointed us to, but it has 12 sections of from 2 to 5 pages each (printed

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Joseph McAllister
On May 20, 2009, at 13:57 , Adam Maas wrote: Well lookee this, right here in my desk drawer I have a Macbook to HDMI connector. A 13 HD screen for my future K7. :-) Joseph McAllister Good idea, but that's an output, not an input on the MacBook. Damn! I knew that! (once upon a

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm waiting for the model that comes with an inflatable dock for my Ruby Yacht... mike wilson wrote: Bob W wrote: Pentax - the camera with the Khan-do attitude, and a pop-up yurt. Genghis I'm going to wait for the model with the pop-up pleasure dome. Kublai. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Anthony Farr
I see dpreview still photographs reflective surfaces, IOW lenses, with umbrellas. When oh when oh when will they they get a soft box or beauty dish,or even just hang a diffuser in front of a standard reflector? It's not like they just started up and are 'making do' while they get established. I

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Ken Waller
to jump in. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: John Francis jo...@panix.com Subject: Re: Pentax K7 On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 01:26:53PM -0500, Nick Wright wrote: Good Lord! After months of torturing us with rumors and speculation about the camera

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread pnstenquist
I like it. I just want to be sure that it's the best we'll get for a while before I buy one. Paul - John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 01:26:53PM -0500, Nick Wright wrote: Good Lord! After months of torturing us with rumors and speculation about the camera

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: Pentax K7 Unless there are some earth shaking experiences by list members with the K7, I'm not going to jump in. Fine, be a stick in the mud. VW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread P. J. Alling
P. J. Alling wrote: I'm waiting for the model that comes with an inflatable dock for my Ruby Yacht... Forgot to sign. Omar. mike wilson wrote: Bob W wrote: Pentax - the camera with the Khan-do attitude, and a pop-up yurt. Genghis I'm going to wait for the model with the pop-up

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 07:55:00PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: I'm very happy with my K20D (K10D in reserve) and just don't see enough in the K7 to get one. I said the same about the K20D when it came out but some high ISO shots by Paul S. pushed me over the edge. In the OK1000 preview (from

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread paul stenquist
On May 20, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: In the OK1000 preview (from the blog at http://www.ok1000pentax.com/2009/05/pentax-k-7-hands-on- preview.html), Pentax Product Manager Chris Pound is quoted as saying: We think this will really appeal to K10D or *ist users, classic

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Tim Bray
To be brutally honest, the K20D is a much better camera than I am a photographer; the number of pictures where the camera is the limiting factor on the quality is pretty small. Having said that, I have two gripes: It's too big and the high-ISO isn't there. Looks like the K7 gets one for two. -T

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:50:30PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote: Sounds like they're not aiming to get K20D users to convert en masse. They're going for new users plus owners of older Pentax models who hadn't seen a compelling reason to go for the K20D. (That'd be me, for example, although I

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread John Francis
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:45:43PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 07:55:00PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: I'm very happy with my K20D (K10D in reserve) and just don't see enough in the K7 to get one. I said the same about the K20D when it came out but some high ISO shots

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Subash
On Wed, 20 May 2009 20:06:19 -0700 Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: To be brutally honest, the K20D is a much better camera than I am a photographer; the number of pictures where the camera is the limiting factor on the quality is pretty small. Having said that, I have two gripes: It's

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread John Francis
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:50:30PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote: That kind of thinking leads me to believe we may still see a higher spec K30D later this year. The K7 is nice, but it isn't the game changer that some were predicting a few weeks ago. Paul According to a posting on the

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread paul stenquist
I won't be disappointed. I just want to be sure that this is the best for the foreseeable future before I buy. So Ill probably unload the K10 and pick up a K7 at some point in the near future. Paul On May 20, 2009, at 11:37 PM, John Francis wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:50:30PM -0400,

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Scott Loveless
On 5/20/09, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Unless there are some earth shaking experiences by list members with the K7, I'm not going to jump in. But, but, but you can video your navel. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008

Re: Pentax K7

2009-05-20 Thread Joseph McAllister
On May 20, 2009, at 20:08 , Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:50:30PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote: Sounds like they're not aiming to get K20D users to convert en masse. They're going for new users plus owners of older Pentax models who hadn't seen a compelling reason to go

Re: Pentax K7

2009-04-27 Thread Thibouille
Being the highest end (IMO) DSLR Pentax ever made, it won't be cheap. But 1500 US$ seems really a MAX although with the recent price hikes relative to Yen currency fluctuation, it may be higher. I have no solid information on this but I'd say 1300US$ or thereabout. -- Thibault Massart aka

Re: Square sensor, was Re: Pentax K7

2009-04-27 Thread Thibouille
I highly doubt that but would like to be proven wrong, please do :) On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:39 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: Not really.  While you can pack rectangular sensors at 100% efficiency, you don't lose that much using circular sensors - the obvious layout only wastes a

Re: Square sensor, was Re: Pentax K7

2009-04-27 Thread John Francis
It's fairly easy. Start with the regular tiling of the plane by hexagons. Now inscribe a circle in each hexagon (so you end up with rows of circles, with alternate rows staggered by half width). A little simple mathematics shows that the area of each circle is just over 90% of the area of the

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