Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-20 Thread Scott Loveless
On 8/20/09, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance Honey, welcome to the 60s. Just spare me single use digital cameras with Pentax lenses please Maybe I was being a bit too obscure

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-20 Thread Thibouille
I dunno why you all read it that way. If ther's anything to be read between the lines is that Hoya isn't into selling, they are actually into buying, which is excellent news. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Perry Pellechiasnagglepus...@gmail.com wrote: Article on Reuters:

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-20 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't think Hoya is into selling. However Big Conglomerates are into shutting down little divisions. The little divisions don't even have to be losing money. They just have to be making not enough money. With proper planning Kodak's film division could become a nice profitable niche

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-20 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe Japanese companies are different, then again you can ask Kyocera how their Contax/Yashica division is doing lately or Konica/Minolta how they're doing making those really super Alpha 900 cameras. Tamron/Bronica and so on... Ralf --

RE: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-20 Thread John Celio
Original Message Subject: Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance From: Graydon o...@uniserve.com Date: Wed, August 19, 2009 7:12 pm To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 03:27:49PM -0400, Perry Pellechia scripsit: I was planning on buying a K7

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-20 Thread paul stenquist
/calemp http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto Original Message Subject: Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance From: Graydon o...@uniserve.com Date: Wed, August 19, 2009 7:12 pm To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 03:27:49PM -0400, Perry

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-20 Thread Thibouille
://www.neovenator.com  http://www.cafepress.com/calemp  http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto   Original Message  Subject: Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance  From: Graydon o...@uniserve.com  Date: Wed, August 19, 2009 7:12 pm  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Perry Pellechiasnagglepus...@gmail.com wrote: Article on Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/article/technology-media-telco-SP/idUST15448620090818 Our digital camera business is not exactly a big operation. There are naturally questions among us whether it is big

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-19 Thread P. J. Alling
In the current economic climate I don't expect any manufacture is doing particularly well. Hoya expects short term profitability in 2010, so what books are they juggling so that long term prospects aren't equally bright? Perry Pellechia wrote: Article on Reuters:

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-19 Thread Miserere
I think we're all going to have to buckle up and buy a K-7 and a DA* lens. For the good of the company, you see? Our spouses will surely agree with our altruistic motives. The things we do for our Art... --M. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-19 Thread Perry Pellechia
I was planning on buying a K7, but when a company says they are pessimistic that they can survive why should we believe they can? Talk about an alliance does not really help when it only sounds like the are hoping to be rescued by a someone unknown company that probably does not exist. On Wed,

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-19 Thread Igor Roshchin
Or, maybe, we should wait until they fall, and buy all that equipment half-price at the liquidation sale? ;-) Igor Wed Aug 19 14:12:27 CDT 2009 Miserere wrote: I think we're all going to have to buckle up and buy a K-7 and a DA* lens. For the good of the company, you see? Our spouses will

RE: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-19 Thread John Celio
I was planning on buying a K7, but when a company says they are pessimistic that they can survive why should we believe they can? Talk about an alliance does not really help when it only sounds like the are hoping to be rescued by a someone unknown company that probably does not exist.

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-19 Thread Ken Waller
The things we do for our Art... Art who ? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance I think we're all going to have to buckle up and buy a K-7 and a DA* lens. For the good

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-19 Thread Perry Pellechia
I might take that chance but I think anyone is looking for a little more support than just through the warranty period. Hoya wants Pentax profitable by March 2010. I do not see the world wide economy improving that much in 6 months to think that this is a realistic goal. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Perry Pellechia Subject: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance Article on Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/article/technology-media-telco-SP/idUST15448620090818 Our digital camera business is not exactly a big operation. There are naturally questions among

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-19 Thread AlunFoto
2009/8/19 William Robb war...@gmail.com: Just off the top of my head, Fuji, Casio, possibly Panasonic. It's pretty unlikely that as a brand, Pentax is just going to dissapear at the end of fiscal year 2010. Kenko (Tokina), Cosina, Mamiya... maybe even... (gasp!) Sigma... :-) Oh, man. It's

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-19 Thread Larry Levy
No surprise here. Isn't this what we all (should have) expected when Hoya bought Pentax to get the non-camera parts of the company (e.g., endoscope)? Hoya is an optics company, not a camera company. The surprise is that with the world-wide depr (oops) recession, they waited this long.

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-19 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 03:27:49PM -0400, Perry Pellechia scripsit: I was planning on buying a K7, but when a company says they are pessimistic that they can survive why should we believe they can? That's not even *close* to what he said. The guy is *Japanese*. Japanese software never, ever,

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-19 Thread Scott Loveless
On 8/19/09, Larry Levy larryl...@sprintmail.com wrote: I guess, this leaves the two former film giants - Fuji and Kodak and perhaps independent lens manufacturers like Sigma and Tamron. How likely is any of these to succeed? My vote goes to Kodak. And we'll hear, very soon I'm sure, about

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-19 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Scott Lovelesssdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/19/09, Larry Levy larryl...@sprintmail.com wrote:  I guess, this leaves the two former film giants - Fuji and Kodak and perhaps independent lens manufacturers like Sigma and Tamron. How likely is any of these to

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance On 8/19/09, Larry Levy larryl...@sprintmail.com wrote: I guess, this leaves the two former film giants - Fuji and Kodak and perhaps independent lens manufacturers like Sigma and Tamron

Re: Hoya to seek digital camera alliance

2009-08-19 Thread Sandy Harris
William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote: Just off the top of my head, Fuji, Casio, possibly Panasonic. It's pretty unlikely that as a brand, Pentax is just going to dissapear at the end of fiscal year 2010. I doubt it would be Panasonic. They have their own resources and a line of point-and-shoot