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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Adam Maas
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 8:20 PM
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On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:09 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
Your post is not clear if your being serious or
sarcastic. I will state what I have been saying
all along, I don't believe the majority of
new vinyl sales in 2009 is dance records as suggested, its
mostly reissues of
: Sunday, November 22, 2009 12:14 PM
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On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:09 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net
wrote:
Your post is not clear if your being serious or
sarcastic. I will state what I have been saying
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 1:57 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
dream on, while there are very large number of NEW MUSiC titles
in hip hop and dance, this is not the same as overall new LPs mfg and
sold in all genres and including reissues. Dance/hip hop titles are
popular
on vinyl
[...]
Music loving audiophiles are not a large market and they
don't tend to buy as much volume. Teenagers who want to be
famous are a large market and one who tends to buy a lot of volume.
[...]
Here are some hard stats from people who know:
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
[...]
Music loving audiophiles are not a large market and they
don't tend to buy as much volume. Teenagers who want to be
famous are a large market and one who tends to buy a lot of volume.
[...]
Here are some hard stats
On 23/11/2009, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
And some real-world stats:
Not fair, stifling a good argument with real world stats!
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And some real-world stats:
Not fair, stifling a good argument with real world stats!
They leave plenty of room for creative interpretation!
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On 23/11/2009, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
And some real-world stats:
Not fair, stifling a good argument with real world stats!
They leave plenty of room for creative interpretation!
But we already have an abundance of that. ;-)
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On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 1:57 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net
wrote:
dream on, while there are very large
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On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 6:06 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
we are talking about newly mfd record sales. There are almost
no record brick and mortar stores left now. So basically LP records are
sold online
now. I can show you a whole bunch of record retailers selling lots of
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 6:13 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
these are the top sellers, these are not total sales.
A few new for 2009 releases may out sell any or even
ALL the particular classic rock, jazz, titles but in
total there are tons tons tons more of the classic
rock,
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On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 6:06 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net
wrote:
we are talking about
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On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 6:13 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net
wrote:
these are the top sellers, these are not total sales.
A few new for 2009 releases may out sell any or even
ALL the particular classic
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
[...]
Music loving audiophiles are not a large market and they
don't tend to buy as much volume. Teenagers who want to be
famous are a large market and one who tends to buy a lot of volume.
[...]
Here are some hard stats
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 6:47 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
OK, there are some, but I am not going
to buy for one second the premise that
the majority of newly mfd record sales
in 2009 is dance records, that is just
way way too small of a genre/market
compared to reissue rock,
On 23/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
Why would anyone
buy lps for any other reason than sound quaity, they
cost much more than CD or mp3, and if you don't have the right gear or
care to
make them sound better than CD, why bother with the drawbacks of vinyl??
I know John,
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 6:57 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
reissues dominate the audiophile market, and the audiophile
market dominates drives all new record sales in 2009. LPs are
only really being bought by audiophiles. Why would anyone
buy lps for any other reason than sound
On 2009-11-22 18:20 , Adam Maas wrote:
Dance and electronica are huge markets overall. It's the dominant
musical form in Europe and Asia and extremely popular in North America
(Coming in fourth after RB/Hip-Hop, Pop and Country).
thanks for the insight Adam; i had a hunch -- i love that music
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:10 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
On 2009-11-22 18:20 , Adam Maas wrote:
Dance and electronica are huge markets overall. It's the dominant
musical form in Europe and Asia and extremely popular in North America
(Coming in fourth after RB/Hip-Hop, Pop and
2009/11/23 steve harley p...@paper-ape.com:
i'm trying to imagine what the analogy would be in photography ...
kind of a kooky idea, but how about a TLR which shoots film *and* digital?
--
Actually close to the mark, only not TLRs. Digital-capable medium
format SLRs, and large format view
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On 2009-11-20
, November 21, 2009 3:20 AM
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Subject: RE: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
New vinyl releases today are primarily a high cost, $15-$30, high sound
quaity, audiophile reissue market from all the indications I have,
catalogs, online stores, record reviews, what my
On 2009-11-21 04:11 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
http://store.acousticsounds.com/index.cfm?get=topsellersTop_Count=100f
ield_cat=5
interesting; this very large and popular vinyl retailer carries 27
vinyl releases in the hip hop/rap category, 14 in funk, then there's
electronica, with zero
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On 2009-11-21 04:11 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
http://store.acousticsounds.com/index.cfm?get=topsellersTop_Count=100
f
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On 2009-11-21 04:11 , J.C
On Nov 17, 2009, at 15:40 , Rob Studdert wrote:
the master recordings being tape however do degrade
with time. The ferrous binders often fail or become sticky so the the
tape flutters, the remnant magnetism becomes diminished so the noise
floor rises and dynamics become a little compressed.
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Joseph McAllister
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On Nov 17, 2009, at 15:40
On 20/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
YOU GUYS are in different domains, RS is talking about
analog music tapes and JM is talking about digital data
tapes. The problems and handing of each is not the same.
Obviously, but it's a fact that audio tapes degrade with time, often
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On 20/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
YOU GUYS
On 2009-11-18 05:22 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
The part about there being more new SACD/DVDA new releases now
than more new vinyl **releases** now is incorrect, there is
a ton of brand new LP edition issues right now, way more than
SACD or DVDA combined. Most of these are high end LP reissues
of
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On 2009-11-18 05:22 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
The part about there being more new SACD/DVDA new releases now than
more new vinyl **releases** now is incorrect
On 2009-11-20 10:59 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
NO, but I read many music and hi-fi periodicals
and see all the vendors catalogs too, its not a market
of dance tracks or new title SACDs, it a big reissue market of specially
pressed discs, mostly 180gram vinyl.
i think it's probably a split market,
On Nov 17, 2009, at 7:44 PM, Peter Loveday wrote:
But a well mastered SACD/DVDA is pretty damn impressive. Just a shame
there's not more stuff being released on them, though its still probably more
than the amount of new stuff released on vinyl :(
Yeah there's a real shortage of good SACD
On Nov 18, 2009, at 12:17 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
It depends on how you define as good as. Might as well ask if a dog is as
good as a cat? or vice versa.
The answer to that question is obvious.
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On Nov 17, 2009, at 17:40, Rob Studdert wrote:
The RIAA equalization is not applied to the master recording so eq is
not a problem, the master recordings being tape however do degrade
with time.
There have been CDs made in the past using tapes which DID have the RIAA
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2009/11/18 J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net:
false, false, false, you cant take low resolution
digital recordings (CD) and DO ANYTHING TO THEM to
make them sound even remotely as good as proper
high end vinyl mastering and playback
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On Nov 17, 2009, at 7:44 PM, Peter Loveday wrote:
But a well mastered SACD/DVDA is pretty damn impressive. Just a shame
there's not more stuff being released
You're letting JCO poison the conversation. Better to 'Kill File'
him. Regards, Bob S.
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
I've actually just got a long-nurtured hate
You know, I can't help
From: Bob Sullivan
You're letting JCO poison the conversation. Better to 'Kill File'
him. Regards, Bob S.
Can't do that if you're subscribed through the digests. Just have to
remember to ignore him.
He'll go quiescent for a while and I forget.
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YouTube .. StarTrek vibes .. at least it wasn't this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC73PHdQX04
(now see how long it takes to get that tune out of your head)
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:57:41PM +1100, Anthony Farr wrote:
How could I pass up the chance to respond with this?
Dear Lord, who knew such things existed in our world?
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Francis
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Thanks for that additional info on the history. As usual many
variables. I'm with you on the travel priorities. That would be mine
as well. If I can get what I
From: Tom C
I've never had an SACD, but it seems like technology is changing so
fast it's hard to keep up without pouring $$$ down the drain,
especially if the content is not there. We buy and spend like we live
forever, and both the stuff and us will last, but it doesn't.
I might have one.
2009/11/18 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com:
That was what I was saying about early CD issues being just a straight
analog to digital conversion of the tape masters. The tapes were originally
mixed so they'd sound good on vinyl, but the reproduction characteristics of
the CD are different.
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Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
From: Tom C
I've never had an SACD, but it seems like technology is changing so
fast it's hard to keep up without pouring
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2009/11/18 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com:
That was what I
On Nov 17, 2009, at 17:40, Rob Studdert wrote:
The RIAA equalization is not applied to the master recording so eq is
not a problem, the master recordings being tape however do degrade
with time.
There have been CDs made in the past using tapes which DID have the RIAA curve
applied.
2009/11/18 J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net:
false, false, false, you cant take low resolution
digital recordings (CD) and DO ANYTHING TO THEM to
make them sound even remotely as good as proper
high end vinyl mastering and playback. there is no magic
trick to restore resolution lost in the
2009/11/18 Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com:
There have been CDs made in the past using tapes which DID have the RIAA
curve applied.
Crappy, crappy horrible sound results. Gladly, that kind of error is/was
VERY rare back in the early 80s.
That would be very nasty (would make for a
It is - there are no opinions involved - just multiple parallel truths
governing the same subjects and monologues are held in a tone of basic
civility - opinions regularly make discussions go sour; they should be
banned... ]=)
2009/11/16 Tom C caka...@gmail.com:
And how is that different than
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eckinator
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It is - there are no opinions involved - just multiple parallel truths
governing the same subjects and monologues
From: Adam Maas
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
If the angels in heaven sound like Margo Timmins, I'll take
hell rather than put up with that awful whining.
She looks a bit like Margo Thatcher. Same initials too.
You guys are just trying to
In a message dated 11/15/2009 7:29:19 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
p...@web-options.com writes:
anyhoo please enjoy your thread, maybe it just isn't mine to
follow but rather to respectfully ignore
Cheers
Ecke
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It is - there are no opinions involved - just multiple parallel truths
governing the same subjects and monologues are held
List
Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
J.C., seriously, are you the pot or are you the kettle?
Because 99.9% of the people here on this list don't have a spare $10K,
much less $100K lying dormant that they would put into a sound system,
much less just one component, nor does the thought even enter
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J.C., seriously, are you the pot or are you the kettle?
Because 99.9% of the people here on this list don't have a spare $10K,
much less $100K
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-yy2URAYqUfeature=related
It's better on vinyl. Well worth spending a couple of hundred K for the
experience.
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LOL. I remember seeing that LP. Not one of Kirk's best moves as a captain.
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-yy2URAYqUfeature=related
It's better on vinyl. Well worth spending a couple of hundred K for the
experience.
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Tom C
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:40 PM
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I didn't forget, it's just that most people are not going
From: Tom C
FWIW, when vinyl was in it's heyday, considering the quality of
playback equipment most commonly used by the largest % of the record
market, I wonder whether the LP's themselves were made to the high
quality audio specifications, that eliteists believe they are hearing.
I can hear a
] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:45 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
From: Tom C
FWIW, when vinyl was in it's heyday, considering the quality of
playback equipment most commonly used by the largest % of the record
market, I wonder whether the LP's
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John Sessoms
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Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
From: Tom C
FWIW, when vinyl was in it's heyday, considering the quality of
playback equipment most
How could I pass up the chance to respond with this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luVjkTEIoJc
You get William Shatner AND the Pythons at the same time :-)
regards, Anthony
Of what use is lens and light
to those who lack in mind and sight
On Nov 16, 2009, at 08:09 , Tom C wrote:
I'm actually surprised somone did not make the analogy between film
and digital and start arguing the inherent purity and noiseless
qualities of large format film.
An argument that is moot. Large format rools!
Not that I ever haul the 8 x 10 out
The same factors apply to CDs.
Audiophile CDs have much better sound quality than the ones you find in
the discount bin at WalMart; especially some of the early CD issues of 60s
70s LPs that were digitized straight from the old LP master tapes
without any kind of re-mixing, re-mastering ...
Thanks for that additional info on the history. As usual many
variables. I'm with you on the travel priorities. That would be mine
as well. If I can get what I consider great sound reproduction at a
decent price that's all I need. Quite it often it depends what we
compare it to.
As I said I
I've never had an SACD, but it seems like technology is changing so
fast it's hard to keep up without pouring $$$ down the drain,
especially if the content is not there. We buy and spend like we live
forever, and both the stuff and us will last, but it doesn't.
So here's a question. Why when
In that last sentence I meant to say that a digitized copy of an
analog source, e.g. vinly LP is simply an inferior digital version.
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
I've never had an SACD, but it seems like technology is changing so
fast it's hard to keep up
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 1:44 AM
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Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
The same factors apply to CDs.
Audiophile CDs have much better sound quality than the ones you find
in
the discount bin at WalMart; especially some of the early CD issues of
60s
70s LPs
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Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 8:53 PM
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Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital - the all vinyl is noisy myth, ,
exposedinvideo
On 15/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
Not that Onkyo and Pioneer
damn... what a bunch of aimless wanton wankery... your gear isn't
good enough to entitle you to an opinion I know this isn't what was
said but it is what transpires... good enough grabs goosebumps from
the groove and gets them there... I know passion can take you to
extremes and we are all
:
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Tom C
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: Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:33 AM
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Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital - the all vinyl is noisy myth, ,
exposedinvideo
On 15/11/2009, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
Rob,
I don't understand the ABX testing you mentioned (what is it?),
Hi Tom et al,
Check out http
, November 15, 2009 5:40 AM
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Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital - the all vinyl is noisy myth, ,
exposedinvideo
damn... what a bunch of aimless wanton wankery... your gear isn't good
enough to entitle you to an opinion I know this isn't what was said but
it is what
On 15/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
ownership has nothing to do with this. I don't own a $100K turntable,
but that doesn't mean they don't exist or my or your turntables are just
as good as the $100K turntables. You can have opinions based on
experinences and auditions,
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Rob Studdert
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 5:57 AM
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Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital - the all vinyl is noisy myth
2009/11/15 J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net:
ownership has nothing to do with this. I don't own a $100K turntable,
but that doesn't mean they don't exist or my or your turntables are just
as good as the $100K turntables. You can have opinions based on
experinences and auditions, ownerships
In a message dated 11/15/2009 3:38:18 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
eckina...@gmail.com writes:
anyhoo please enjoy your thread, maybe it just isn't mine to follow
but rather to respectfully ignore
Cheers
Ecke
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Marnie aka Doe
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:31 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
On Nov 14, 2009, at 13:19 , Tim Bray wrote:
If
you want your heart to melt, sit down with some Cowboy Junkies in a
dark room
anyhoo please enjoy your thread, maybe it just isn't mine to
follow but rather to respectfully ignore
Cheers
Ecke
===
I kill filed JCO years ago. Lots of us did.
I think he's been mostly correct in this thread, but other people have
misconstrued what he's been saying.
If
you want your heart to melt, sit down with some Cowboy
Junkies in a
dark room on a seriously-good audiophile playback system. -Tim
or Lucinda WIlliams, Willie Nelson, Leonard Cohen. All
perfectionists.
All very good singers but, if the angels in heaven sing, they sound
Rob Studdert wrote:
Do you ever actually read what anyone else writes John? Serious question.
Rob, have you ever read JCO's participation in any other threads?
Serious question.
;-)
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From: eckinator
Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital - the all vinyl is noisy myth, ,
exposedinvideo
damn... what a bunch of aimless wanton wankery... your gear isn't
good enough to entitle you to an opinion I know this isn't what was
said but it is what
damn... what a bunch of aimless wanton wankery...
Mark!
(sounds like a closing quote to me...)
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Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital - the all vinyl is noisy myth,
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In a message dated 11/15/2009 3:38:18 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
eckina...@gmail.com writes:
anyhoo
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Subject: RE: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital - the all vinyl is noisy myth,
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anyhoo please enjoy your thread, maybe it just isn't mine to
follow but rather to respectfully ignore
Cheers
Ecke
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I kill filed JCO years ago. Lots of us did.
I think he's been mostly
2009/11/15 J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net:
And when you ignore, it just maintains ignorance.
Yes and I fail to see the fault with that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance
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O'Yeah? Our three leggers can be set up on uneven ground in 1/100th of
the time your behemoth can be drug up the hill!
:-)
On Nov 15, 2009, at 02:40 , eckinator wrote:
damn... what a bunch of aimless wanton wankery... your gear isn't
good enough to entitle you to an opinion I know this
From: Bob W
I think he's been mostly correct in this thread, but other people have
misconstrued what he's been saying. Unfortunately this just makes him hammer
away at the same message over and over, which is rather tiresome.
Perhaps because the *message* that's come through is My way is the
That's the beauty of it, I just screw on a longer set of legs and use
a helicopter and live view... MUAHAHAHAHA ]=)
2009/11/15 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:
O'Yeah? Our three leggers can be set up on uneven ground in 1/100th of the
time your behemoth can be drug up the hill!
:-)
On 16/11/2009, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
Rob Studdert wrote:
Do you ever actually read what anyone else writes John? Serious question.
Rob, have you ever read JCO's participation in any other threads?
Serious question.
;-)
OK, I admit, I was a bit bored re-working on tedious
://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/
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John Sessoms
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 4:05 PM
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Subject: RE: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital - the all vinyl is noisy myth, ,
From: Bob W
I
On Nov 15, 2009, at 02:41 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
your staying from the point which is that with a $1000 phono setup
you cant say you are always or nearly always record limited
sonically.
$1000 is not nearly enough budget to get the full sound quality of
most records, so you are still
On 16/11/2009, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
I think he's been mostly correct in this thread, but other people have
misconstrued what he's been saying. Unfortunately this just makes him hammer
away at the same message over and over, which is rather tiresome. I think we
should all adopt a
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exposedinvideo
On 16/11/2009, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
I think he's been mostly correct in this thread, but other
A loudspeaker by itself is not a good judge of what it's cone
transmits into the air.
On Nov 15, 2009, at 13:10 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
No it comes out matter of factly on things that ARE matter of fact,
why present facts as opinions? That doesn't serve any purpose other
than creating
On 16/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
you seem to misunderstand, you cant get
state of the art audio gear for low cost,
even if you build it yourself. acutally
its practically impossible to build state
of the art audio gear yourself, there
is too much overhead in RD and its
On Nov 15, 2009, at 07:31 , Bob W wrote:
If
you want your heart to melt, sit down with some Cowboy
Junkies in a
dark room on a seriously-good audiophile playback system. -Tim
or Lucinda WIlliams, Willie Nelson, Leonard Cohen. All
perfectionists.
All very good singers but, if the angels
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