This link is also quite informative,
http://txfx.net/2004/09/11/women-evil/
regards, Anthony
Of what use is lens and light
to those who lack in mind and sight
(Anon)
2009/11/4 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:
For the men on this
From: Bob W
[...]
Marnie ;-) (re Trying to be sexy -- in many sexy shots women
are doing such trite things they look like parody to me.)
Men are generally very simple creatures when it comes to certain things.
Mind you, so are women.
It's just different things, and different
Good answer! (because I agree ;-)
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:01 PM
In a message dated 11/3/2009 3:04:56 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
jsessoms...@nc.rr.com writes:
Marnie ;-) (re Trying to be sexy -- in many sexy shots women
are doing such trite things they look like parody to me.)
Men are generally very simple creatures when it comes to
Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
For the men on this list who want to understand women:
http://www.bspcn.com/2009/10/02/15-essential-differences-between-men-and-women/
For the women who want to understand men:
http://NutDriver.org/malebrain.gif
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For the men on this list who want to understand women:
http://www.bspcn.com/2009/10/02/15-essential-differences-between-men-and-women/
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For the men on this list who want to understand women:
http://www.bspcn.com/2009/10/02/15-essential-differences-between-men-
and-women/
There's also this:
http
Bob W wrote:
I don't claim to understand women [...]
One of the better known US stand-up comedians, might be Jeff Foxworthy,
has a funny bit about how women think men are as complicated as women,
and men think women are as simple as men, and both are wrong, whereupon
hilarity ensues. :-)
Men are generally very simple creatures when it comes to
certain things.
Mind you, so are women.
It's just different things, and different types of trite.
Mr. Darcy
I'd be leery of any man who says he understands women. He's
liable to lie to you about important things
On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:14 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
For the men on this list who want to understand women:
http://www.bspcn.com/2009/10/02/15-essential-differences-between-men-and-women/
I had this one sent to me the other day.
http://www.cracked.com/funny-2422-shoes/
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I like having sexual objectification on the other foot now
and then, just for the sheer unusualness of it.
Mark!
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eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
I like having sexual objectification on the other foot now
and then, just for the sheer unusualness of it.
Mark!
Foot fetishists are a weird breed.
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Foot fetishists are a weird breed.
But they don't hurt a sole.
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Foot fetishists are a weird breed.
But they don't hurt a sole.
Only a heel would.
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From: Cotty
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Foot fetishists are a weird breed.
But they don't hurt a sole.
True, but they just don't seem instep with the times.
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On Nov 2, 2009, at 9:21 AM, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Cotty
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: OT PESO - NSFW Apparently!
Foot fetishists are a weird breed.
But they don't hurt a sole.
True, but they just don't seem instep with the times
William Robb wrote:
From: Cotty
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 8:03 AM
Foot fetishists are a weird breed.
But they don't hurt a sole.
True, but they just don't seem instep with the times.
I consider them my arch enemies.
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paul stenquist wrote:
On Nov 2, 2009, at 9:21 AM, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Cotty
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: OT PESO - NSFW Apparently!
Foot fetishists are a weird breed.
But they don't hurt a sole.
True, but they just don't seem
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Cotty
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: OT PESO - NSFW Apparently!
Foot fetishists are a weird breed.
But they don't hurt a sole.
True, but they just don't seem instep with the times.
one has to stay on one's
In a message dated 10/31/2009 2:20:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
ann...@nyc.rr.com writes:
This isn't a matter of political correctness in my view either. It
bothers me that she looks pregnant, as well.
ann
Bingo. The pose makes her look pregnant (thrusting her belly
Ann and Marnie,
She's not pregnant, it's just those Canon lenses giving you some distortion.
You and Dave all do some shooting with those don't you? :-)
Regards, Bo S.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:54 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 10/31/2009 2:20:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
In a message dated 11/2/2009 8:02:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes:
Ann and Marnie,
She's not pregnant, it's just those Canon lenses giving you some
distortion.
You and Dave all do some shooting with those don't you? :-)
Regards, Bo S.
Acturallly, I
Marnie,
I was only half joking.
My first thought also was she's pregnant.
I chaulked it up to lens distortion, perhaps a wide angle too close?
Living with my wife thru her 3 pregnancies gives me a perspective.
Being pregnant is sexy on an intellectual level -
'I know what you've been doing',
but
ann sanfedele wrote:
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Cotty
Foot fetishists are a weird breed.
But they don't hurt a sole.
True, but they just don't seem instep with the times.
one has to stay on one's toes to keep up with the posts that degenerate
into pun threads
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Subject: Re: OT PESO - NSFW Apparently!
In a message dated 10/31/2009 11:39:51 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes:
Portraying someone as a sexual being first and a person second
- Original Message -
From: Mark Roberts
Subject: Re: OT PESO - NSFW Apparently!
Foot fetishists are a weird breed.
But they don't hurt a sole.
True, but they just don't seem instep with the times.
one has to stay on one's toes to keep up with the posts that degenerate
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: OT PESO - NSFW Apparently!
paul stenquist wrote:
On Nov 2, 2009, at 9:21 AM, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Cotty
Subject: Re: OT
Foot fetishists are a weird breed.
But they don't hurt a sole.
True, but they just don't seem instep with the times.
I consider them my arch enemies.
Just get on the phone ankle them up.
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Bob - that was hitting below the belt! :-)
ann
Bob Sullivan wrote:
Ann and Marnie,
She's not pregnant, it's just those Canon lenses giving you some distortion.
You and Dave all do some shooting with those don't you? :-)
Regards, Bo S.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:54 AM, eactiv...@aol.com
[...]
Marnie ;-) (re Trying to be sexy -- in many sexy shots women
are doing such trite things they look like parody to me.)
Men are generally very simple creatures when it comes to certain things.
Mind you, so are women.
It's just different things, and different types of trite.
Mr.
On Nov 2, 2009, at 08:32 , Mark Roberts wrote:
ann sanfedele wrote:
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Cotty
Foot fetishists are a weird breed.
But they don't hurt a sole.
True, but they just don't seem instep with the times.
one has to stay on one's toes to
In a message dated 11/2/2009 12:38:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
p...@web-options.com writes:
Men are generally very simple creatures when it comes to certain things.
Mind you, so are women.
It's just different things, and different types of trite.
Mr. Darcy
===
I kinda
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Desjardins, Steve desjard...@wlu.edu wrote:
snip If a gay male photographer objectifies a male model is it sexist?
Yes.
cheers,
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Safety issues, i think not.:-)
Great shot, well lit and tasteful in my opionion
Dave
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 6:28 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
G'day All,
This shot was booted out of one of my Flickr groups for contravening
their safe image rules:
In a message dated 10/31/2009 11:39:51 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes:
Portraying someone as a sexual being first and a person second sounds
more like objectification than sexism. And objectification is something
we do all the time, especially we photographers. We
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:38 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
Why is it sexist? I think it's mildly erotic and has sexual connotations,
but I don't find it demeaning to either sex. If a man opens his shirt and
lowers his pants a bit, is that sexist as well?
Does something
My man cans are heaps sexy!
On 01/11/2009, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:38 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
wrote:
Why is it sexist? I think it's mildly erotic and has sexual connotations,
but I don't find it demeaning to either sex.
frank theriault wrote:
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:38 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
Why is it sexist? I think it's mildly erotic and has sexual connotations,
but I don't find it demeaning to either sex. If a man opens his shirt and
lowers his pants a bit, is that sexist as
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
My dictionary just says this for sexist: ``prejudice, stereotyping, or
discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex.''
That sounds pretty demeaning to me.
That's one definition. Another is
I didn't see Savage's photo as demeaning in any way. The model was an
attractive lady and was presented as such. The rendering and pose were
artful. Is it wrong to enjoy the beauty of her figure? Many take
pleasure in a beautiful face and nice hair. Should she cover those as
well? She
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:10 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
I didn't see Savage's photo as demeaning in any way. The model was an
attractive lady and was presented as such. The rendering and pose were
artful. Is it wrong to enjoy the beauty of her figure? Many take pleasure
Sexist has negative implications. And to describe an artful photo
like the one Savage presented as sexist is political correctness run
amok. But that's my opinion, and you are entitled to yours.
No offense, I still love you:-)!Paul
On Oct 31, 2009, at 4:27 PM, frank theriault wrote:
On Sat,
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:46 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
Sexist has negative implications. And to describe an artful photo like the
one Savage presented as sexist is political correctness run amok. But
that's my opinion, and you are entitled to yours.
Political correctness
On Oct 31, 2009, at 5:59 PM, frank theriault wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:46 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
wrote:
Sexist has negative implications. And to describe an artful photo
like the
one Savage presented as sexist is political correctness run amok.
But
that's my
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:09 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
I'm glad you agree!
Cheers to that, buddy.
The only way we'll resolve this is at a beer summit. Maybe if I make
it to Chi-town for that pdml thingie we'll discuss it over a cold one.
Until then, I think we've
well I wrote David off list but I can't resist commenting here...
Frankly, I don't like the photo on any level... but if David shot it for
a very specific reason for the model, that's a different thing.
The plain fact is I'm guessing that the reason it got booted or refused
or whatever was
On 2009-10-31 15:46 , P N Stenquist wrote:
Sexist has negative implications. And to describe an artful photo like
the one Savage presented as sexist is political correctness run amok.
But that's my opinion, and you are entitled to yours.
i'm with Frank here; who says artful and sexist must be
On Oct 31, 2009, at 6:26 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2009-10-31 15:46 , P N Stenquist wrote:
Sexist has negative implications. And to describe an artful photo
like
the one Savage presented as sexist is political correctness run
amok.
But that's my opinion, and you are entitled to yours.
From: frank theriault
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:46 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
Sexist has negative implications. And to describe an artful photo like the
one Savage presented as sexist is political correctness run amok. But
that's my opinion, and you are entitled to
From: ann sanfedele
well I wrote David off list but I can't resist commenting here...
Frankly, I don't like the photo on any level... but if David shot it for
a very specific reason for the model, that's a different thing.
The plain fact is I'm guessing that the reason it got booted or refused
On 26/10/09, paul stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
If a man
opens his shirt and lowers his pants a bit, is that sexist as well?
If I did it, there would be an uprising.
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2009/10/28 Cotty cotty...@mac.com:
On 26/10/09, paul stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
If a man
opens his shirt and lowers his pants a bit, is that sexist as well?
If I did it, there would be an uprising.
Don't take the little blue pill beforehand.
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Cotty wrote:
On 26/10/09, paul stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
If a man
opens his shirt and lowers his pants a bit, is that sexist as well?
If I did it, there would be an uprising.
Speak for yourself!
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On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 07:28:44AM +0800, David Savage wrote:
G'day All,
This shot was booted out of one of my Flickr groups for contravening
their safe image rules:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/4046339515/
Direct link (~130kb):
LMAO. At my age it would just be appalling.
Why is it sexist? I think it's mildly erotic and has sexual
connotations, but I don't find it demeaning to either sex. If a man
opens his shirt and lowers his pants a bit, is that sexist as well?
Paul
Heck, I'd think he'd just finished
On Oct 26, 2009, at 18:28, David Savage wrote:
G'day All,
This shot was booted out of one of my Flickr groups for contravening
their safe image rules:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/4046339515/
You can keep these OT PESOs coming any time you like, David. Thank
you!
-Charles
...glove??? what glove??? ;-)
lf
paul stenquist escreveu:
On Oct 26, 2009, at 9:01 PM, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: David Savage
Subject: OT PESO - NSFW Apparently!
G'day All,
This shot was booted out of one of my Flickr groups for contravening
their safe image
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:02:00AM -0500, Charles Robinson wrote:
On Oct 26, 2009, at 18:28, David Savage wrote:
G'day All,
This shot was booted out of one of my Flickr groups for contravening
their safe image rules:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/4046339515/
You can keep
G'day All,
This shot was booted out of one of my Flickr groups for
contravening their safe image rules:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/4046339515/
Direct link (~130kb):
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2723/4046339515_98f01c5b1f_o.jpg
I can't understand why.
:-)
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
Probably because it encourages piracy
Aaaar, mateys!
cheers,
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On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 7:28 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
G'day All,
This shot was booted out of one of my Flickr groups for contravening
their safe image rules:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/4046339515/
Direct link (~130kb):
- Original Message -
From: David Savage
Subject: OT PESO - NSFW Apparently!
G'day All,
This shot was booted out of one of my Flickr groups for contravening
their safe image rules:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/4046339515/
Direct link (~130kb):
Really? That's ridiculous. You can post it on photo.net.
Excellent shot. I like the light and the look.
Paul
Paul
On Oct 26, 2009, at 7:28 PM, David Savage wrote:
G'day All,
This shot was booted out of one of my Flickr groups for contravening
their safe image rules:
On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:51 PM, frank theriault wrote:
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 7:28 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com
wrote:
G'day All,
This shot was booted out of one of my Flickr groups for contravening
their safe image rules:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/4046339515/
Direct link
On Oct 26, 2009, at 9:01 PM, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: David Savage
Subject: OT PESO - NSFW Apparently!
G'day All,
This shot was booted out of one of my Flickr groups for contravening
their safe image rules:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/4046339515/
Why is it sexist? I think it's mildly erotic and has sexual
connotations, but I don't find it demeaning to either sex. If a man
opens his shirt and lowers his pants a bit, is that sexist as well?
Paul
Heck, I'd think he'd just finished Thanksgiving dinner...
paul stenquist wrote:
On Oct
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