Re: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander

2004-07-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Antti-Pekka Virjonen Subject: FW: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander Did you try a Land Rover :-) No dealership here. William Robb

RE: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander

2004-07-01 Thread Alan Chan
I think you misinterpreted my message. As technologies have evolved, even cheap consumer products can be sophisticated, just built cheaply (cut corners you can say). No doubt Pentax shows no sign of being able to compete with the very top end sector like 1v/1D etc. However, Pentax still have

RE: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander

2004-07-01 Thread alex wetmore
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Jens Bladt wrote: Because today good cameras are based on very sophisticated technology - AF-systems, Data Processing, Imaging-/Sensor Technology - as well as high quality lens design/lens making. Pentax may survive as a lens maker - if it can find corporate lens buyers. As

Re: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander

2004-07-01 Thread Pål Jensen
Herb wrote: which means that both Nikon and Pentax are fully at the mercy of some 3rd party vendor's ability to develop a good sensor. Canon isn't. it takes deep pockets to play in the DSLR game, as Leica is finding out, and for a company that is on as thin a financial base as Leica, it may

Re: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander

2004-07-01 Thread Pål Jensen
Alan: (something that Nikon and Canon arguably hasn't); We love Pentax, but where did that come from? eg. good quality lenses and medium format. Since Canon Nikon do not produce 120, it is a pointless arguement. We can only compare what they produced. Besides, Nikon have large format

Re: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander

2004-07-01 Thread Pål Jensen
Herb wrote: which means that both Nikon and Pentax are fully at the mercy of some 3rd party vendor's ability to develop a good sensor REPLY: Virtually everything within a camera is at the mercy of numerous 3rd party vendors. Pentax don't make plastic, metal or electronic parts. Not even

RE: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander

2004-07-01 Thread Thibs
PROTECTED] Objet : Re: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander Herb wrote: which means that both Nikon and Pentax are fully at the mercy of some 3rd party vendor's ability to develop a good sensor REPLY: Virtually everything within a camera is at the mercy of numerous 3rd

RE: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander

2004-07-01 Thread Pål Jensen
Pentax doesn't make glass but they are still owned by Asahi aren't they ? And as far as I know Asahi is quite a manufacturer of glass or did I miss something ? REPLY: No, that's another company. So is the brewery (Asahi beer). Asahi Optical recently changed their name to Pentax corporation.

Re: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander

2004-06-30 Thread Pål Jensen
William wrote: The 1Ds is not Pentax's traditional target market. They have never really competed there, and only had a camera in it for a short time. Pentax has always been more about very good lenses attached to middle of the raod performance bodies. REPLY: True enough but the market has

Re: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander

2004-06-30 Thread Alan Chan
(something that Nikon and Canon arguably hasn't); We love Pentax, but where did that come from? eg. good quality lenses and medium format. Since Canon Nikon do not produce 120, it is a pointless arguement. We can only compare what they produced. Besides, Nikon have large format lenses, where is

Re: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander

2004-06-30 Thread Herb Chong
Subject: Re: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander True enough but the market has changed. Pentax have always been interested in high quality imaging (something that Nikon and Canon arguably hasn't); eg. good quality lenses and medium format. For digital this means

RE: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander

2004-06-30 Thread Jens Bladt
] Emne: Re: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander William wrote: The 1Ds is not Pentax's traditional target market. They have never really competed there, and only had a camera in it for a short time. Pentax has always been more about very good lenses attached

Re: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander

2004-06-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jeff Post Subject: Re:Selling Pentax 35mm gear (WAS RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander Pentax lost a dedicated user because they didn't make the product he needed. Okay, my ranting is finished for tonight. Hopefully Pentax will surprise me and prove me