Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 09/01/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With my Boxster, most functional options were stand alone. I think that comes with the volume/cost/exclusivity of the vehicle, that said my vehicle in the UK is available for order with any practical combination of options whereas in Oz it's

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread mike wilson
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/08 Mon PM 09:21:27 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 07:52:42AM +1100, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 09/01/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread mike wilson
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/08 Mon PM 10:50:25 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless - Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller Subject: Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless Case in point

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread mike wilson
From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/08 Mon PM 11:21:30 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless On 09/01/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I was shopping for my Titan, I discovered that in the USA

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The Prius with the JBL stereo option (included in the 2006 models starting with option package #3, I think; I have option package #6) has the hands-free option built in. It connected with the Treo 650 instantly. The in-car address book, speed dial and voice phone control is managed

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The in-car address book, speed dial and voice phone control is managed manually, independent of the phone. A bit of work to set up, but it allows me to put the 10-15 numbers I want to have access to quickly into the car explicitly and nothing else. If I need to call

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Scott Loveless
On 1/8/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kenneth Waller I discovered that in the USA, you get to order every additional item that you want over and above the stock vehicle. I don't know about other vehicles but with Ford, most options are combined in various packages,with a few

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 9, 2007, at 6:59 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The in-car address book, speed dial and voice phone control is managed manually, independent of the phone. A bit of work to set up, but it allows me to put the 10-15 numbers I want to have access to quickly into the

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Paul Sorenson
Yeah - I can remember when ordering a heater in your car was an option...presumably if you lived in the southern states you saved a little money if it wasn't included in the car. -P Scott Loveless wrote: Ordering cars with specific options instead of packages used to be common. --

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread David Savage
On 1/9/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The in-car address book, speed dial and voice phone control is managed manually, independent of the phone. A bit of work to set up, but it allows me to put the 10-15 numbers I want to have access to quickly into the car

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Christian
Paul Sorenson wrote: Yeah - I can remember when ordering a heater in your car was an option... I had a 1965 Mustang (289 4bbl) which had optional seat belts and side mirror. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Doug Brewer
David Savage wrote: You shouldn't have been so tight and sprung for the smoke signal option. Dave I had a 1971 Ford Torino with the smoke signal option. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
You didn't cut the Boxer dash to bits to fit a GPS unit by chance? ;-) Hell no, real men don't need no stinkin directions ! ;-) Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless On 09/01/07, Kenneth Waller

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
This is getting dangerously close to DSLR/aperture simulator territory.. With at least on major difference. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread pnstenquist
The '71 Torino was a design classic. It looked like a tuna sucking wind. Paul -- Original message -- From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Savage wrote: You shouldn't have been so tight and sprung for the smoke signal option. Dave I had a

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless The '71 Torino was a design classic. It looked like a tuna sucking wind. Ran like one too. HAR!!! William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
LOL Hopefully it will remain so Shel [Original Message] From: Kenneth Waller This is getting dangerously close to DSLR/aperture simulator territory.. With at least on major difference. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Doug Brewer wrote: David Savage wrote: You shouldn't have been so tight and sprung for the smoke signal option. I had a 1971 Ford Torino with the smoke signal option. Wasn't that a Pinto? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread pnstenquist
No, Pinto's were available with the barbecue option. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug Brewer wrote: David Savage wrote: You shouldn't have been so tight and sprung for the smoke signal option. I had a 1971 Ford

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Perry Pellechia
Paul, I think you are full of beans on this one. On 1/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, Pinto's were available with the barbecue option. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug Brewer wrote: David Savage

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
That would add to the effect wouldn't it... Perry Pellechia wrote: Paul, I think you are full of beans on this one. On 1/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, Pinto's were available with the barbecue option. Paul -- Original message --

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/1/07, Perry Pellechia, discombobulated, unleashed: Paul, I think you are full of beans on this one. Come on now, don't pan the guy. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Perry Pellechia
On 1/9/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/1/07, Perry Pellechia, discombobulated, unleashed: Paul, I think you are full of beans on this one. Come on now, don't pan the guy. -- Hey if he can't stand the heat -- Perry

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
John, My wife has an Accura variant of that big bluetooth headset... Regards, Bob S. On 1/8/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not just Japanese vehicles ... One of my friends calls my BMW Z4 the largest Bluetooth hands-free headset he's seen for a long time On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless More importantly, how many how big are the cup holders, does it have a curry hook as standard and a hot/cold drink warmer/cooler? These are the more important features IMHO. Dave On 1/8/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
What's a curry hook? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless More importantly, how many how big are the cup holders, does it have a curry hook as standard and a hot/cold drink warmer/cooler

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Somebody is going to figure out how to hack into Bluetooth enabled vehicles and then the fun will begin. John Francis wrote: Not just Japanese vehicles ... One of my friends calls my BMW Z4 the largest Bluetooth hands-free headset he's seen for a long time On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 09/01/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess a lot has to do with what you do with your car. My 31 year old son is looking for a new vehicle is having a hard time considering any without Blue tooth technology due to the convenience it offers, tho I'm not sure he's willing to

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
- Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless On 09/01/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess a lot has to do with what you do with your car. My 31 year old son is looking for a new vehicle is having a hard time

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 09/01/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody is going to figure out how to hack into Bluetooth enabled vehicles and then the fun will begin. If they only publish themselves as a headset device then there's not much potential for hacking. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 07:52:42AM +1100, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 09/01/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess a lot has to do with what you do with your car. My 31 year old son is looking for a new vehicle is having a hard time considering any without Blue tooth

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 09/01/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Case in point; the integrated nav unit in my vehicle is a $5k option yet it's slower and clunkier than most $500 stand alone units. :-( Then I have to ask why did you purchase it? Because of the level of integration (they have you over a

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote: Somebody is going to figure out how to hack into Bluetooth enabled vehicles and then the fun will begin. Won't take long: http://www.techworld.com/security/features/index.cfm?featureID=2622pagtype=samecatsamechan

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 8, 2007, at 15:21, John Francis wrote: And probably doesn't work as well, either. I can't use my (Bluetooth) Treo 700w with my (Bluetooth) BMW Z4, even though the BMW supposedly offers full integration - sound through the car audio speakers, and a microphone on the steering column.

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/1/07, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: One wonders if the PalmOS-based Treo700 has the same limitation... Palm based Treos are the 650 and 680. I have the 650 and the formatting for phone numbers is . -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places,

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread Adam Maas
Cotty wrote: On 8/1/07, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: One wonders if the PalmOS-based Treo700 has the same limitation... Palm based Treos are the 650 and 680. I have the 650 and the formatting for phone numbers is . Actually the 700 comes in two versions, the

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 8, 2007, at 16:39, Cotty wrote: On 8/1/07, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: One wonders if the PalmOS-based Treo700 has the same limitation... Palm based Treos are the 650 and 680. I have the 650 and the formatting for phone numbers is . In the U.S. at

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller Subject: Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless Case in point; the integrated nav unit in my vehicle is a $5k option yet it's slower and clunkier than most $500 stand alone units. :-( Then I have to ask why did you purchase it? Of the many

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 09/01/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I was shopping for my Titan, I discovered that in the USA, you get to order every additional item that you want over and above the stock vehicle. In Canada, I had the choice of three option packages, none of which was quite right. The

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/1/07, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: Actually the 700 comes in two versions, the 700p running PalmOS and the 700wx running Windows Mobile. I stand corrected. http://www.palm.com/us/products/smartphones/treo700p/ But the 680 is a newer, higher spec:

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
on the assembly line with complexity With my Boxster, most functional options were stand alone. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless - Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller Subject: Re: Ford

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread David Savage
that were released in the UK. BTW, I wasn't being serious in my original message :-) Cheers, Dave On 1/9/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's a curry hook? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ford and Microsoft go

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-08 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 04:56:56PM -0600, Charles Robinson wrote: On Jan 8, 2007, at 16:39, Cotty wrote: On 8/1/07, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: One wonders if the PalmOS-based Treo700 has the same limitation... Palm based Treos are the 650 and 680. I have the 650 and

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-07 Thread Kenneth Waller
Its Ford way of catching up. My understanding it will have the capabilities of Bluetooth systems that are now available in some high end Japanese vehicles. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Ford and Microsoft go wireless I get

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-07 Thread John Celio
I get press releases from the North American International Auto Show. Today, I received a summary of a joint release from Ford and Microsoft saying that all Ford vehicles will be equipped with wireless routers and internet receivers. I'm not sure how this will work or what the details

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
No, death isn't an option at the moment. Could be in the future, but I doubt it. Huge companies have a way of healing themselves, frequently with help from others. Like Microsoft, for example. Paul On Jan 7, 2007, at 9:40 PM, John Celio wrote: I get press releases from the North American

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-07 Thread David Savage
More importantly, how many how big are the cup holders, does it have a curry hook as standard and a hot/cold drink warmer/cooler? These are the more important features IMHO. Dave On 1/8/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its Ford way of catching up. My understanding it will have the

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-07 Thread Adam Maas
And no doubt a repeat of the infamous Lexus Bluetooth virus that's been going around using Bluetooth-equipped Lexuses as a distribution method. It's hard to patch cars reliably. -Adam Kenneth Waller wrote: Its Ford way of catching up. My understanding it will have the capabilities of

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-07 Thread John Celio
Blue oval of death? No, death isn't an option at the moment. Could be in the future, but I doubt it. Huge companies have a way of healing themselves, frequently with help from others. Like Microsoft, for example. I meant... instead of the infamous Blue Screen of Death... Nevermind.

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-07 Thread John Francis
Not just Japanese vehicles ... One of my friends calls my BMW Z4 the largest Bluetooth hands-free headset he's seen for a long time On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 08:43:45PM -0500, Kenneth Waller wrote: Its Ford way of catching up. My understanding it will have the capabilities of Bluetooth systems