On Jun 7, 2005, at 6:40 AM, Bob W wrote:
The only thing that's predictable about football is that England
will never
again win a major championship. And nobody wants to focus on that.
Don't worry Bob, we'll let the Lions win a test match.
Considering how cold wet it's been lately, they'll
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Bob W wrote:
football (sorry, I just can't call it 'soccer' g).
Bob,
Don't be ashamed to call it 'soccer' on the grounds that the Americans
have stolen 'football' for that daft dressing-up game they play :-) It's
supposed to come from a public school contraction of
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On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Bob W wrote:
football (sorry, I just can't call it 'soccer' g).
Bob,
Don't be ashamed
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know, but if I say 'soccer' it will feel as though I'm letting the
Americans keep 'football' for their game.
They seem to throw the ball a lot in their version of the game, so to
distinguish it from 'soccer' and 'rugger' I think they should call it
'tosser'.
g
You weren't going to beat me up were you?
If not, I'll try next time.
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Cheers,
Bob
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On 7/6/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
You weren't going to beat me up were you?
I think if poor Bob didn't attend to family precedents, he would have
been beaten up anyway :-)
Cheers,
Cotty
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From: Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Had a nice chat with a Canon 1D owner @ a graduation party yesterday.
Anyway, he like to shoot sports.
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Christian wrote:
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Had a nice chat with a Canon 1D owner @ a graduation party yesterday.
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:03:44AM -0400, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
Anyway, he like to shoot sports. Especially baseball.
What he likes to get is the ball coming off the bat,
and 5fps isn't fast enough for him. Hmmm.
I've said it before, and I'm sure I'll have to sy it again:
You can't
På 6. jun. 2005 kl. 18.40 skrev John Francis:
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:03:44AM -0400, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
Anyway, he like to shoot sports. Especially baseball.
What he likes to get is the ball coming off the bat,
and 5fps isn't fast enough for him. Hmmm.
I've said it before, and
On 6/6/05, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:
This shot was with the LX (pretty sure the winder was on, but
there are no before or after shots on the negative strip so I know it was a
single press of the shutter button):
http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=12pos=0
NICE shot
I'll certainly agree with you on the timing aspect. If this guy is
blindly holding down the shutter button, I'll bet his keeper rate is
low and he mostly misses the shot he is after. I can say that lots of
practice of the exact timing you are trying to achieve is very helpful
- one is to get
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http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=12pos=02
Nice, but is that what he had in mind? I visualised Collin's initial
email with the ball much closer to the bat (possibly deformed, does
this ball deform
In days long gone when I shot a lot of drag racing, I frequently tried to time
shots. I soon learned that if I saw it in the viewfinder, I didn't get it. The
mirror, of course, has to be up at the opportune moment.
Another interesting aside: When airbags were a big deal in cars, every
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Another interesting aside: When airbags were a big deal in cars, every
manufacturer wanted to show them
opening. We shot them with a camera that did two thousand frames per
second. That's right, 2000/second.
The camera screamed for each
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http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=12pos=2
NICE shot Christian. You *sure* you didn't PS
A classic baseball shot. Love it. Impeccable timing of course.
Paul
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http://www.skofteland.net
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 06:48:34PM +0200, DagT wrote:
A good and prepared photographer can react in 1/10 second.
If you're prepared, and the action is predictable, you can
do a great deal better than that.
As most here know, I spend quite some time photographing
cars travelling at a high
Hello John,
So an interesting follow on question is:
Obviously practice is critical to your timing. Do you find, given
practice, that some bodies do much better for you than others? If so,
which ones? Seems that there are two different issues at play - one
is shutter lag and the other is how
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A classic baseball shot. Love it. Impeccable timing of course.
Paul
Thanks, Paul. Good seats helped too!
Christian
I haven't done serious experimentation, but if I knew I was
going to be trying stuff like this I would take the camera
bodies with the fastest fps, because they usually have
the shortest shutter lag. It's a great deal easier with
digital, because you can see when you got it right, but
even with
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På 6. jun. 2005 kl. 18.40 skrev John Francis:
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:03:44AM -0400, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
Anyway, he like
John,
I've found that the soft releases can provide a greater amount of control.
I use 'em on just about all my camera bodies. The best ones seem to be
those made by Tom Abrahamsson for the Leicas, which fit a number of Pentax
and other camera bodies as well.
Shel
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From:
In predictable situations, and as you say most situations are more or
less predictable (I should have written (less than 1/10s), I don´t
mind having a short shutterlag. Most slr´s are acceptable once the AF
is turned off. You always have to learn how a camera responds, and
doing this you
As far as I understand it, trap focus assumes that the action is going to go
over a predictable position. I don't think that's very likely in top-flight
football (sorry, I just can't call it 'soccer' g).
The only thing that's predictable about football is that England will never
again win a
the shot.
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Cheers,
Bob
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På 6. jun. 2005 kl. 18.40 skrev John Francis:
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:03:44AM -0400, Collin Brendemuehl
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The most important thing, for me, is a camera with a very
positive shutter release. Unfortunately this is one area
where I feel Pentax lag behind others; both the Nikon D100
and the Canon 20D have a far crisper release than
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Bob W wrote:
The only thing that's predictable about football is that England will never
again win a major championship. And nobody wants to focus on that.
Whereas you clearly saw Greece coming last year :-)
Even what you say above is not predictable. Which is why we watch
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Christian wrote:
nope not a big deal, but it may screw up the URL for the original shot of
the hit. :-(
http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=12pos=0
Nice, I like that. Thanks Christian.
K
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Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 4:27 PM
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On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Christian wrote:
nope not a big deal, but it may screw up the URL for the original
On 6/6/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
The only thing that's predictable about football is that England will never
again win a major championship. And nobody wants to focus on that.
Never say never...
Cheers,
Cotty
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where and when the bat
and ball will make contact (if at all). Anybody with decent hand/eye
coordination should be able to get the shot.
--
Cheers,
Bob
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