Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-06-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob Sullivan So what's the price of the new K-7 ? ! ! If you've got me to pay $1,400 for a new K-7, I'll surely pay $1,500 for a full frame Pentax. Regards, Bob S. If memory serves, both the K-10D and K-20D debuted in that price range before falling back somewhat. -- PDML

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-06-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: Doug Franklin Anthony Farr wrote: OTOH it's an interesting method of market research. Just fly a few extravagent kites and see how much interest they arouse. If the rumoured products are unpopular then the company merely disclaims them. Politicians and their ilk do it all the

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-06-02 Thread Doug Franklin
John Sessoms wrote: From: Doug Franklin Politicians and their ilk do it all the time. They call it a trial balloon. I thought that was Run it up the flag-pole and see who salutes! It /was/. Times change. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-06-02 Thread P. J. Alling
John Sessoms wrote: From: Doug Franklin Anthony Farr wrote: OTOH it's an interesting method of market research. Just fly a few extravagent kites and see how much interest they arouse. If the rumoured products are unpopular then the company merely disclaims them. Politicians and their

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-28 Thread Luiz Felipe
??? Hard to say, but I'm suspicious, given that the latest issue of the usual photo mags have no mention of the K-7. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again You guys seriously think

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread AlunFoto
May I suggest a new acronym do mark the day when Pentax introduce a 24x36mm sensor in a K-mount DSLR: Pentax Full Format Time = PFFT I think that just about sums it up. Jostein 2009/5/26 Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br: Since they're not offering some 35mm film camera and they're not

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread mike wilson
Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: More than any new lenses, I'd really like to see a gen - u - ine Pentax teleconvertor that preserves auto focus. Where's the profit in that? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

RE: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread John Whittingham
: Ricehigh is at it again More than any new lenses, I'd really like to see a gen - u - ine Pentax teleconvertor that preserves auto focus. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again I'm

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread mike wilson
Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com wrote: It appears that 645 lenses are marked as DFA645 on those screenshots, but I was wondering the same thing. Why would Pentax make such a commitment to APSc lenses only to come back with 35mm full-frames later? Profit would be a grade A

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread mike wilson
Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:14:00PM -0400, Matthew Miller scripsit: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:07:52PM -0400, Graydon wrote: OR, someone in the Graphic Arts department PhotoShopped a copy of the 'real' Lens Map to screw with (and bring out) the

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread Anthony Farr
Mike Wilson wrote, I would think they would narrow it to a single figure group of potentials and then give them all subtley different versions of the map. The one that leaks will therefore be identifiable. OTOH it's an interesting method of market research. Just fly a few extravagent

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Joseph McAllister wrote: OR, someone in the Graphic Arts department PhotoShopped a copy of the 'real' Lens Map to screw with (and bring out) the culprit who has been leaking stuff within Pentax's fold. That'd be my bet. I'm with you 100%! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread Doug Franklin
John Whittingham wrote: I'll second that, but the DA*400/4 would be a great if expensive option. I'd dearly love to have the DA* 400/4, but I doubt it's going to come in at a price I'm willing to pay. :-( -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread Doug Franklin
Anthony Farr wrote: OTOH it's an interesting method of market research. Just fly a few extravagent kites and see how much interest they arouse. If the rumoured products are unpopular then the company merely disclaims them. Politicians and their ilk do it all the time. They call it a trial

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:20:57PM +1000, Anthony Farr wrote: OTOH it's an interesting method of market research. Just fly a few extravagent kites and see how much interest they arouse. If the rumoured products are unpopular then the company merely disclaims them. Yeah, although based on

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread Scott Loveless
On 5/27/09, Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org wrote: IN YOUR FACE CANON AND NIKON LOOOK AT HOW AWESOMES PENTAX IS OUR CAMERA BRAND RULZE111! Mark! -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Anthony Farr Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again OTOH it's an interesting method of market research. Just fly a few extravagent kites and see how much interest they arouse. If the rumoured products are unpopular then the company merely disclaims them

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again On 5/27/09, Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org wrote: IN YOUR FACE CANON AND NIKON LOOOK AT HOW AWESOMES PENTAX IS OUR CAMERA BRAND RULZE111! Mark! He slepz rulz wrong. William Robb -- PDML

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread Anthony Farr
srsly? regards, Anthony   Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) 2009/5/27 William Robb war...@gmail.com: He slepz rulz wrong. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:13 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again On 5/27/09, Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org wrote:  IN YOUR FACE CANON AND NIKON LOOOK AT HOW  AWESOMES PENTAX IS OUR CAMERA BRAND

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread Scott Loveless
On 5/27/09, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again On 5/27/09, Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org wrote: IN YOUR FACE CANON AND NIKON LOOOK AT HOW AWESOMES PENTAX IS OUR CAMERA BRAND RULZE111

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread Luiz Felipe
You guys seriously think those leaks about the K-7 were unintentional??? All of them??? I'd rather think some of those were intended to make noise, keep the noise up, and keep the noise still higher. No doudbt they made a lot of noise. No, I'm not taking any leaks as truth. But I think

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread Thibouille
At the same time, if someone ould have interest in refraining potential buyers to get a k-7, I would have done exactly that. It may be real... but a 50 f/1.0 is very highly doubtful to me. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:08 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: A leaked roadmap. Gleaned from

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread Ken Waller
of an auto focus convertor. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: More than any new lenses, I'd really like to see a gen - u - ine

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-27 Thread Ken Waller
Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again You guys seriously think those leaks about the K-7 were unintentional??? All of them??? I'd rather think some of those were intended to make noise, keep the noise up, and keep the noise still higher. No doudbt they made a lot

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread John Celio
A leaked roadmap. Gleaned from ForumNeurotica http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-lens-roadmap-revamped-5-new-lenses.html I want that DA 400/4, and I want it now. As with everything Pentax puts out, I want them all, but the 400 and 50 f1.0 would be awesome. I really need a better

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Margus Männik
Interesting, but where's the 30mm SDM f/whatever? BRM William Robb wrote: A leaked roadmap. Gleaned from ForumNeurotica http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-lens-roadmap-revamped-5-new-lenses.html William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Nick Wright
I'm with Margus, I would really like to see about a 28mm or 30mm f/2 or better. I don't care if it's SDM though. 2009/5/26 Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee: Interesting, but where's the 30mm SDM f/whatever? BRM William Robb wrote: A leaked roadmap. Gleaned from ForumNeurotica

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Tim Øsleby
These pictures pops up every where. Can't help thinking there a hidden message in the finger :-) -- MaritimTim 2009/5/26 William Robb war...@gmail.com: A leaked roadmap. Gleaned from ForumNeurotica http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-lens-roadmap-revamped-5-new-lenses.html William

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread AlunFoto
2009/5/26 Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com: These pictures pops up every where. Can't help thinking there a hidden message in the finger :-) You have to know how to read the fin(g)e(r) print, I guess. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Luiz Felipe
Well, that's two 645 digital lens, two 35mm frame lens and two APS lenses... or am I wrong?? On the second photo there appears some DFA 55 f2.8??? I can't help but think Pentax has decided to make the news and magazines again, and those new cameras should offer some shock value, like the LX

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread David J Brooks
The 400 would be nice. The K 400 f 5.6 i have is ok, but this sounds nice,.:-) The others i can do with out. Mark has a Sigma 180 macro that does a goo jib, something like that would be of interest. Dave On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Miserere
I will copy'n'paste what I wrote on PF: Regarding an f/1.0 lens from Pentax: The 50mm f/1.4 has a rear element ~29mm in diameter, giving it an area of 660.5 sq.mm. The 50mm f/1.2 has a rear element diameter of ~35.5mm, giving it an area of 989.8 sq.mm. These numbers make sense: f/1.2 is 1/2 stop

RE: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Miserere Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:26 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again I will copy'n'paste what I wrote on PF: Regarding an f/1.0 lens from Pentax: The 50mm f/1.4 has

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Graydon
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:25:40PM -0400, Miserere scripsit: If this roadmap is for real, it means Pentax is releasing a FF camera, Nope. Doesn't mean that at all. Pentax can be: - making lenses that will work with the installed base of 35mm film cameras - making lenses that will

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/5/09, Miserere, discombobulated, unleashed: Regarding an f/1.0 lens from Pentax: The 50mm f/1.4 has a rear element ~29mm in diameter, giving it an area of 660.5 sq.mm. The 50mm f/1.2 has a rear element diameter of ~35.5mm, giving it an area of 989.8 sq.mm. These numbers make sense: f/1.2 is

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Adam Maas
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 26/5/09, Miserere, discombobulated, unleashed: Regarding an f/1.0 lens from Pentax: The 50mm f/1.4 has a rear element ~29mm in diameter, giving it an area of 660.5 sq.mm. The 50mm f/1.2 has a rear element diameter of ~35.5mm,

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Miserere
2009/5/26 Cotty cotty...@mac.com: I'll meet your two paras and raise you whatever Adam maas says. So you'll raise me a Mark!? How bewildering... ;-) --M. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://enticingthelight.wordpress.com

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Ken Waller
More than any new lenses, I'd really like to see a gen - u - ine Pentax teleconvertor that preserves auto focus. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again I'm with Margus, I

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread P. J. Alling
Apparently it was voted off the island. Margus Männik wrote: Interesting, but where's the 30mm SDM f/whatever? BRM William Robb wrote: A leaked roadmap. Gleaned from ForumNeurotica http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-lens-roadmap-revamped-5-new-lenses.html William Robb -- PDML

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Luiz Felipe
Since they're not offering some 35mm film camera and they're not offering some FF digital, there would be no need to develop some DFA lens. Assuming they are developing a DFA set of lenses, including a fairly expensive 1.0, they are probably developing the camera(s) that will be using those

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Scott Loveless
On 5/26/09, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: LF (all that assuming that information on lenses IS real, of course) I wouldn't put much faith in anything Ricewhine is spewing on about. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread paul stenquist
Are we sure the DFA lenses weren't for the 645? Those were characterized as DFA in the past. Paul On May 26, 2009, at 5:50 PM, Luiz Felipe wrote: Since they're not offering some 35mm film camera and they're not offering some FF digital, there would be no need to develop some DFA lens.

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Nick Wright
It appears that 645 lenses are marked as DFA645 on those screenshots, but I was wondering the same thing. Why would Pentax make such a commitment to APSc lenses only to come back with 35mm full-frames later? On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:26 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Are we

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Scott Loveless
On 5/26/09, Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com wrote: It appears that 645 lenses are marked as DFA645 on those screenshots, but I was wondering the same thing. Why would Pentax make such a commitment to APSc lenses only to come back with 35mm full-frames later? Probably because I've

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Adam Maas
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com wrote: It appears that 645 lenses are marked as DFA645 on those screenshots, but I was wondering the same thing. Why would Pentax make such a commitment to APSc lenses only to come back with 35mm full-frames later? Market

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Joseph McAllister
On May 26, 2009, at 09:56 , Graydon wrote: Pentax can be: - making lenses that will work with the installed base of 35mm film cameras - making lenses that will work with a Samsung full frame camera, since Samsung has the money and grudge to go fight Sony - changed what DFA

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Graydon
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 07:35:58PM -0700, Joseph McAllister scripsit: [leaked lens map] OR, someone in the Graphic Arts department PhotoShopped a copy of the 'real' Lens Map to screw with (and bring out) the culprit who has been leaking stuff within Pentax's fold. That'd be my bet. While that

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:07:52PM -0400, Graydon wrote: OR, someone in the Graphic Arts department PhotoShopped a copy of the 'real' Lens Map to screw with (and bring out) the culprit who has been leaking stuff within Pentax's fold. That'd be my bet. While that is certainly not impossible,

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Graydon
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:14:00PM -0400, Matthew Miller scripsit: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:07:52PM -0400, Graydon wrote: OR, someone in the Graphic Arts department PhotoShopped a copy of the 'real' Lens Map to screw with (and bring out) the culprit who has been leaking stuff within

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread John Francis
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 09:58:54PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: The common view is that the market is headed towards full frame aside from the low-end of the consumer market. and I suspect [Pentax] think that FF won't be viable below the $1500 or so pricepoint (and I agree with them there).

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Bob Sullivan
So what's the price of the new K-7 ? ! ! If you've got me to pay $1,400 for a new K-7, I'll surely pay $1,500 for a full frame Pentax. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:45 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 09:58:54PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: The common

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread Adam Maas
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:45 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 09:58:54PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: The common view is that the market is headed towards full frame aside from the low-end of the consumer market. and I suspect [Pentax] think that FF won't be

RE: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread John Whittingham
I want it yesterday! John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of paul stenquist [pnstenqu...@comcast.net] Sent: 26 May 2009 05:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again I want that DA 400/4, and I want

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-26 Thread paul stenquist
It looks like release date street price for the K-7 will be about $1200. You'll probably be able to get one for $900 by the end of the year. Paul On May 26, 2009, at 11:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: So what's the price of the new K-7 ? ! ! If you've got me to pay $1,400 for a new K-7, I'll

Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-25 Thread William Robb
A leaked roadmap. Gleaned from ForumNeurotica http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-lens-roadmap-revamped-5-new-lenses.html William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-25 Thread paul stenquist
I want that DA 400/4, and I want it now. Paul On May 26, 2009, at 12:08 AM, William Robb wrote: A leaked roadmap. Gleaned from ForumNeurotica http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-lens-roadmap-revamped-5-new-lenses.html William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-25 Thread Graydon
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:08:26PM -0600, William Robb scripsit: A leaked roadmap. Gleaned from ForumNeurotica http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-lens-roadmap-revamped-5-new-lenses.html DFA* 50/1? That would go with the f1.0 K-7 top display pic. :) The idea of a 400/4 makes me happy;

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-25 Thread Brendan MacRae
Ditto! - Original Message From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 9:19:35 PM Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again I want that DA 400/4, and I want it now. Paul On May 26, 2009, at 12:08 AM, William Robb wrote

Re: Ricehigh is at it again

2009-05-25 Thread Boris Liberman
I'd be interested in new 20 mm and 50/1 lenses, yes. But meanwhile I can keep shooting with 21 mm and 50/1.2 lenses that I already have. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:08 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: A leaked roadmap. Gleaned from ForumNeurotica