From: Bob Sullivan
So what's the price of the new K-7 ? ! !
If you've got me to pay $1,400 for a new K-7,
I'll surely pay $1,500 for a full frame Pentax.
Regards, Bob S.
If memory serves, both the K-10D and K-20D debuted in that price range
before falling back somewhat.
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From: Doug Franklin
Anthony Farr wrote:
OTOH it's an interesting method of market research. Just fly a few
extravagent kites and see how much interest they arouse. If the
rumoured products are unpopular then the company merely disclaims
them.
Politicians and their ilk do it all the
John Sessoms wrote:
From: Doug Franklin
Politicians and their ilk do it all the time. They call it a trial
balloon.
I thought that was Run it up the flag-pole and see who salutes!
It /was/. Times change. :-)
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John Sessoms wrote:
From: Doug Franklin
Anthony Farr wrote:
OTOH it's an interesting method of market research. Just fly a few
extravagent kites and see how much interest they arouse. If the
rumoured products are unpopular then the company merely disclaims
them.
Politicians and their
???
Hard to say, but I'm suspicious, given that the latest issue of the
usual photo mags have no mention of the K-7.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
- Original Message - From: Luiz Felipe
luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br
Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again
You guys seriously think
May I suggest a new acronym do mark the day when Pentax introduce a
24x36mm sensor in a K-mount DSLR:
Pentax Full Format Time = PFFT
I think that just about sums it up.
Jostein
2009/5/26 Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br:
Since they're not offering some 35mm film camera and they're not
Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
More than any new lenses, I'd really like to see a gen - u - ine Pentax
teleconvertor that preserves auto focus.
Where's the profit in that?
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More than any new lenses, I'd really like to see a gen - u - ine Pentax
teleconvertor that preserves auto focus.
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From: Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again
I'm
Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com wrote:
It appears that 645 lenses are marked as DFA645 on those screenshots,
but I was wondering the same thing.
Why would Pentax make such a commitment to APSc lenses only to come
back with 35mm full-frames later?
Profit would be a grade A
Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:14:00PM -0400, Matthew Miller scripsit:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:07:52PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
OR, someone in the Graphic Arts department PhotoShopped a copy of the
'real' Lens Map to screw with (and bring out) the
Mike Wilson wrote,
I would think they would narrow it to a single figure group of potentials and
then give them all subtley different versions of the map. The one that leaks
will therefore be identifiable.
OTOH it's an interesting method of market research. Just fly a few
extravagent
Joseph McAllister wrote:
OR, someone in the Graphic Arts department PhotoShopped a copy of the
'real' Lens Map to screw with (and bring out) the culprit who has been
leaking stuff within Pentax's fold. That'd be my bet.
I'm with you 100%!
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John Whittingham wrote:
I'll second that, but the DA*400/4 would be a great if expensive option.
I'd dearly love to have the DA* 400/4, but I doubt it's going to come in
at a price I'm willing to pay. :-(
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Anthony Farr wrote:
OTOH it's an interesting method of market research. Just fly a few
extravagent kites and see how much interest they arouse. If the
rumoured products are unpopular then the company merely disclaims
them.
Politicians and their ilk do it all the time. They call it a trial
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:20:57PM +1000, Anthony Farr wrote:
OTOH it's an interesting method of market research. Just fly a few
extravagent kites and see how much interest they arouse. If the
rumoured products are unpopular then the company merely disclaims
them.
Yeah, although based on
On 5/27/09, Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org wrote:
IN YOUR FACE CANON AND NIKON LOOOK AT HOW
AWESOMES PENTAX IS OUR CAMERA BRAND RULZE111!
Mark!
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From: Anthony Farr
Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again
OTOH it's an interesting method of market research. Just fly a few
extravagent kites and see how much interest they arouse. If the
rumoured products are unpopular then the company merely disclaims
them
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From: Scott Loveless
Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again
On 5/27/09, Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org wrote:
IN YOUR FACE CANON AND NIKON LOOOK AT HOW
AWESOMES PENTAX IS OUR CAMERA BRAND RULZE111!
Mark!
He slepz rulz wrong.
William Robb
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srsly?
regards, Anthony
Of what use is lens and light
to those who lack in mind and sight
(Anon)
2009/5/27 William Robb war...@gmail.com:
He slepz rulz wrong.
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On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:13 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
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From: Scott Loveless
Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again
On 5/27/09, Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org wrote:
IN YOUR FACE CANON AND NIKON LOOOK AT HOW
AWESOMES PENTAX IS OUR CAMERA BRAND
On 5/27/09, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
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From: Scott Loveless
Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again
On 5/27/09, Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org wrote:
IN YOUR FACE CANON AND NIKON LOOOK AT HOW
AWESOMES PENTAX IS OUR CAMERA BRAND RULZE111
You guys seriously think those leaks about the K-7 were unintentional???
All of them???
I'd rather think some of those were intended to make noise, keep the
noise up, and keep the noise still higher. No doudbt they made a lot of
noise.
No, I'm not taking any leaks as truth. But I think
At the same time, if someone ould have interest in refraining
potential buyers to get a k-7, I would have done exactly that.
It may be real... but a 50 f/1.0 is very highly doubtful to me.
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:08 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
A leaked roadmap.
Gleaned from
of an auto focus convertor.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com
Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again
Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
More than any new lenses, I'd really like to see a gen - u - ine
Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br
Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again
You guys seriously think those leaks about the K-7 were unintentional???
All of them???
I'd rather think some of those were intended to make noise, keep the noise
up, and keep the noise still higher. No doudbt they made a lot
A leaked roadmap.
Gleaned from ForumNeurotica
http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-lens-roadmap-revamped-5-new-lenses.html
I want that DA 400/4, and I want it now.
As with everything Pentax puts out, I want them all, but the 400 and 50 f1.0
would be awesome.
I really need a better
Interesting, but where's the 30mm SDM f/whatever?
BRM
William Robb wrote:
A leaked roadmap.
Gleaned from ForumNeurotica
http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-lens-roadmap-revamped-5-new-lenses.html
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I'm with Margus, I would really like to see about a 28mm or 30mm f/2
or better. I don't care if it's SDM though.
2009/5/26 Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee:
Interesting, but where's the 30mm SDM f/whatever?
BRM
William Robb wrote:
A leaked roadmap.
Gleaned from ForumNeurotica
These pictures pops up every where.
Can't help thinking there a hidden message in the finger :-)
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2009/5/26 William Robb war...@gmail.com:
A leaked roadmap.
Gleaned from ForumNeurotica
http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-lens-roadmap-revamped-5-new-lenses.html
William
2009/5/26 Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com:
These pictures pops up every where.
Can't help thinking there a hidden message in the finger :-)
You have to know how to read the fin(g)e(r) print, I guess.
Jostein
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Well, that's two 645 digital lens, two 35mm frame lens and two APS
lenses... or am I wrong?? On the second photo there appears some DFA 55
f2.8???
I can't help but think Pentax has decided to make the news and magazines
again, and those new cameras should offer some shock value, like the LX
The 400 would be nice. The K 400 f 5.6 i have is ok, but this sounds nice,.:-)
The others i can do with out.
Mark has a Sigma 180 macro that does a goo jib, something like that
would be of interest.
Dave
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at
I will copy'n'paste what I wrote on PF:
Regarding an f/1.0 lens from Pentax: The 50mm f/1.4 has a rear element
~29mm in diameter, giving it an area of 660.5 sq.mm. The 50mm f/1.2
has a rear element diameter of ~35.5mm, giving it an area of 989.8
sq.mm. These numbers make sense: f/1.2 is 1/2 stop
Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Miserere
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:26 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again
I will copy'n'paste what I wrote on PF:
Regarding an f/1.0 lens from Pentax: The 50mm f/1.4 has
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:25:40PM -0400, Miserere scripsit:
If this roadmap is for real, it means Pentax is releasing a FF camera,
Nope.
Doesn't mean that at all.
Pentax can be:
- making lenses that will work with the installed base of 35mm film
cameras
- making lenses that will
On 26/5/09, Miserere, discombobulated, unleashed:
Regarding an f/1.0 lens from Pentax: The 50mm f/1.4 has a rear element
~29mm in diameter, giving it an area of 660.5 sq.mm. The 50mm f/1.2
has a rear element diameter of ~35.5mm, giving it an area of 989.8
sq.mm. These numbers make sense: f/1.2 is
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
On 26/5/09, Miserere, discombobulated, unleashed:
Regarding an f/1.0 lens from Pentax: The 50mm f/1.4 has a rear element
~29mm in diameter, giving it an area of 660.5 sq.mm. The 50mm f/1.2
has a rear element diameter of ~35.5mm,
2009/5/26 Cotty cotty...@mac.com:
I'll meet your two paras and raise you whatever Adam maas says.
So you'll raise me a Mark!? How bewildering...
;-)
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From: Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Ricehigh is at it again
I'm with Margus, I
Apparently it was voted off the island.
Margus Männik wrote:
Interesting, but where's the 30mm SDM f/whatever?
BRM
William Robb wrote:
A leaked roadmap.
Gleaned from ForumNeurotica
http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-lens-roadmap-revamped-5-new-lenses.html
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Since they're not offering some 35mm film camera and they're not
offering some FF digital, there would be no need to develop some DFA
lens. Assuming they are developing a DFA set of lenses, including a
fairly expensive 1.0, they are probably developing the camera(s) that
will be using those
On 5/26/09, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote:
LF (all that assuming that information on lenses IS real, of course)
I wouldn't put much faith in anything Ricewhine is spewing on about.
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Are we sure the DFA lenses weren't for the 645? Those were
characterized as DFA in the past.
Paul
On May 26, 2009, at 5:50 PM, Luiz Felipe wrote:
Since they're not offering some 35mm film camera and they're not
offering some FF digital, there would be no need to develop some DFA
lens.
It appears that 645 lenses are marked as DFA645 on those screenshots,
but I was wondering the same thing.
Why would Pentax make such a commitment to APSc lenses only to come
back with 35mm full-frames later?
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:26 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
Are we
On 5/26/09, Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com wrote:
It appears that 645 lenses are marked as DFA645 on those screenshots,
but I was wondering the same thing.
Why would Pentax make such a commitment to APSc lenses only to come
back with 35mm full-frames later?
Probably because I've
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com wrote:
It appears that 645 lenses are marked as DFA645 on those screenshots,
but I was wondering the same thing.
Why would Pentax make such a commitment to APSc lenses only to come
back with 35mm full-frames later?
Market
On May 26, 2009, at 09:56 , Graydon wrote:
Pentax can be:
- making lenses that will work with the installed base of 35mm film
cameras
- making lenses that will work with a Samsung full frame camera,
since Samsung has the money and grudge to go fight Sony
- changed what DFA
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 07:35:58PM -0700, Joseph McAllister scripsit:
[leaked lens map]
OR, someone in the Graphic Arts department PhotoShopped a copy of the
'real' Lens Map to screw with (and bring out) the culprit who has been
leaking stuff within Pentax's fold. That'd be my bet.
While that
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:07:52PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
OR, someone in the Graphic Arts department PhotoShopped a copy of the
'real' Lens Map to screw with (and bring out) the culprit who has been
leaking stuff within Pentax's fold. That'd be my bet.
While that is certainly not impossible,
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:14:00PM -0400, Matthew Miller scripsit:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:07:52PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
OR, someone in the Graphic Arts department PhotoShopped a copy of the
'real' Lens Map to screw with (and bring out) the culprit who has been
leaking stuff within
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 09:58:54PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote:
The common view is that the market is headed towards
full frame aside from the low-end of the consumer market.
and
I suspect [Pentax] think that FF won't be viable below
the $1500 or so pricepoint (and I agree with them there).
So what's the price of the new K-7 ? ! !
If you've got me to pay $1,400 for a new K-7,
I'll surely pay $1,500 for a full frame Pentax.
Regards, Bob S.
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:45 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 09:58:54PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote:
The common
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:45 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 09:58:54PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote:
The common view is that the market is headed towards
full frame aside from the low-end of the consumer market.
and
I suspect [Pentax] think that FF won't be
I want it yesterday!
John
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Sent: 26 May 2009 05:19
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I want that DA 400/4, and I want
It looks like release date street price for the K-7 will be about
$1200. You'll probably be able to get one for $900 by the end of the
year.
Paul
On May 26, 2009, at 11:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
So what's the price of the new K-7 ? ! !
If you've got me to pay $1,400 for a new K-7,
I'll
A leaked roadmap.
Gleaned from ForumNeurotica
http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-lens-roadmap-revamped-5-new-lenses.html
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I want that DA 400/4, and I want it now.
Paul
On May 26, 2009, at 12:08 AM, William Robb wrote:
A leaked roadmap.
Gleaned from ForumNeurotica
http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-lens-roadmap-revamped-5-new-lenses.html
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On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:08:26PM -0600, William Robb scripsit:
A leaked roadmap.
Gleaned from ForumNeurotica
http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-lens-roadmap-revamped-5-new-lenses.html
DFA* 50/1? That would go with the f1.0 K-7 top display pic. :)
The idea of a 400/4 makes me happy;
Ditto!
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I want that DA 400/4, and I want it now.
Paul
On May 26, 2009, at 12:08 AM, William Robb wrote
I'd be interested in new 20 mm and 50/1 lenses, yes. But meanwhile I
can keep shooting with 21 mm and 50/1.2 lenses that I already have.
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:08 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
A leaked roadmap.
Gleaned from ForumNeurotica
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