Re: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-17 Thread John Whicker
Rob Brigham wrote: snipped Obviously no estimated Street Value but my source tells me expect the final street price to be roughly $6,000. Release date sometime in April 2002. Presumably April 1, 2003? John

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2002-12-17 Thread akozak
Hi , Do you know if dslr accept also A, M and K lenses like present bodies. I still wonder what financial condition of Pentax is , if they are making profit selling their cameras or loss. Sometimes I also think about changing system since no one knows what the future for Pentax is. Canon/Nikon

Re: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Whicker Subject: Re: Rumour mill again... If Asahi had offered the K bayonet mount at least 10 years earlier, Pentax would still be a brand of choice for the professional user. Staying with the M42 mount was the main cause of the decline of Pentax

Re: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-17 Thread Keith Whaley
John Whicker wrote: Bob Blakely wrote: Once upon a time in the 35mm professional world, the Pentax Spotmatic was THE camera to have. If Asahi had offered the K bayonet mount at least 10 years earlier, Pentax would still be a brand of choice for the professional user. Staying with

Re: The way things might have been - WAS: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-17 Thread Rodelion
Pentax is good value for the money, while Nikon or Leica would make me a poor man. Regards, Rod. - Original Message - From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:57 PM Subject: Re: The way things might have been - WAS: Rumour mill again

Re: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-17 Thread frank theriault
I don't think that staying with m42 helped Pentax much, in terms of losing the pro 35mm market. But I don't think that's the whole reason. The Spotmatic may have been used by pros in the 60's, but it was, AFAIK, always a distant second to the Nikon F series. I think that the F having features

Re: The way things might have been - WAS: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-17 Thread Andre Langevin
Mark's comments: If Asahi had offered the K bayonet mount at least 10 years earlier, Pentax would still be a brand of choice for the professional user. It would have helped to have come out with bayonnet mount 3 or 4 years earlier, but 10 years? I don't think so. Until the end of the

Re: The way things might have been - WAS: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-17 Thread frank theriault
I agree, Andre, Canon only entered the serious pro market in '71 with it's F-1, so surely one can't say that Pentax lost that much by staying with m42 throughout the '60's. Screwmount only became a problem with the advent of open-aperture metering, as it became difficult of properly align the

Re: The way things might have been - WAS: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-17 Thread Mark D.
--- Rodelion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax is good value for the money, while Nikon or Leica would make me a poor man. The Minolta MD and Canon FD systems are also a good value for the money. A equally competent Nikon AI system can be put together at about the same investment as a Pentax

Rumour mill again...

2002-12-16 Thread Rob Brigham
VERY SCEPTICAL, but here for your opinions: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?s=a9a24ea6 81d8566035b8610ee567;act=ST;f=3;t=67 Just a heads upI was privy to some info and specs on a new camera that will debut this spring at PMA. Pentax will be putting out a 14

RE: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-16 Thread Rob Brigham
Yep - could that be the 1st??? -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 December 2002 17:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rumour mill again... ... Release date sometime in April 2002. ?? keith whaley Rob Brigham wrote: VERY

Re: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-16 Thread Dan Scott
On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 11:38 AM, Rob Brigham wrote: The SLR will accept all 35mm Pentax-AF lenses and will have an environtmentally sealed body. Specs that I saw were as follows: - 35mm Full Frame Foveon Sensor with RAW only recording. No JPG. Firewire and USB enabled ports.

Re: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-16 Thread Pål Jensen
Rob wrote: The SLR will accept all 35mm Pentax-AF lenses and will have an environtmentally sealed body. If this is true, then it's film sibling is certainly the long awaited flagship Pål

Re: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-16 Thread Pål Jensen
Dan wrote: Entirely believable until you get to the roughly $6,000.00 part. Everyone knows that Pentax doesn't compete at that price level with anyone. Had you said, $899.99 or even $549.99 I would find it entirely credible, but $6,000.00 shows someone is pulling someone's leg or finger

Re: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-16 Thread Brendan
But! Pentax does not make products to show signalising corporate health and corporate intentions but to sell! --- Pål_Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan wrote: Entirely believable until you get to the roughly $6,000.00 part. Everyone knows that Pentax doesn't compete at that price

Re: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-16 Thread Brad Dobo
, Brad - Original Message - From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: Re: Rumour mill again... But! Pentax does not make products to show signalising corporate health and corporate intentions but to sell! --- Pål_Jensen

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2002-12-16 Thread Brendan
Subject: Re: Rumour mill again... But! Pentax does not make products to show signalising corporate health and corporate intentions but to sell! --- Pål_Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan wrote: Entirely believable until you get to the roughly $6,000.00 part. Everyone

Re: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-16 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax will be putting out a 14 megapixel Full Frame SLR utilizing a Foveon sensor. Not unbelievable if there is a range of lesser models eg: 6=8-12 Mega pixel. The SLR will accept all 35mm Pentax-AF lenses and will have an

Re[2]: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-16 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Monday, December 16, 2002, 10:05:13 PM, you wrote: Brad wrote: Only professionals (or those that employ them) can afford a DSLR. Professionals will likely choose a Nikon or Canon. For Pentax to bother at all is silly IMHO. Once upon a time no professional chose Nikon or Canon.

Re: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-16 Thread Bob Blakely
: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 2:05 PM Subject: Re: Rumour mill again... Brad wrote: Only professionals (or those that employ them) can afford a DSLR. Professionals will likely choose a Nikon or Canon. For Pentax to bother at all is silly

RE: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-16 Thread Alan Chan
Yep - could that be the 1st??? Doesn't really matter, as long as it really worked, and relatively affordable, and didn't come too late. regards, Alan Chan _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8.

Re: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-16 Thread Alan Chan
If this is true, then it's film sibling is certainly the long awaited flagship Not again... regards, Alan Chan _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Re: Rumour mill again...

2002-12-16 Thread Brad Dobo
True, but those glory days are gone. Once upon a time no professional chose Nikon or Canon. Pål

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2002-12-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Brad Dobo Subject: Re: Rumour mill again... True, but those glory days are gone. Not sure if they were so much glory days as being the only game in town. William Robb