Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-19 Thread Jostein Øksne
On 8/18/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not just me beating up Pentax (good grief). I second the parenthesis. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-19 Thread P. J. Alling
, debriefed or numbered. From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:24:21 +1000 On 18/08/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:24:21 +1000 On 18/08/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Japan, Pentax factory

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread John Forbes
. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 18/08/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if they're not making a huge profit on this camera's apparent popularity, they are putting people on the Pentax track. Many of them will buy lenses. That will make them likely repeat customers. Lens investment is a great thing if you're

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Of course there will be bottom feeders as well. But there will be some serious hobbyists as well. Tthe more cameras you sell, the more loyalists you attract. On Aug 18, 2006, at 6:30 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 18/08/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if they're not

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread Tom C
in more machines, coslty in both time and money. From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:24:21 +1000 On 18/08/06

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread Tom C
C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:26

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread Tom C
Someone has to be. :-) Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Tom C wrote: Point it out the nonsense then to me big guy. Thanks for the compliment. ;-) The nonsense is to do with the fervour to prove/disprove who has the biggest dick, Canon, Pentax or Minox. As if it matters to anyone taking pictures. Kostas -- PDML

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 10:57:44AM -0600, Tom C wrote: Fine, Pentax has one model that one recent week in Japan was the 3rd best selling DSLR. Which, in itself, is amazingly good news. It wasn't that long ago that many people were giving Pentax up for dead, and predicting the immediate

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread pnstenquist
will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread Tom C
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:05:47 +0100 (BST) On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Tom C wrote: Point it out the nonsense then to me big guy. Thanks for the compliment. ;-) The nonsense is to do with the fervour to prove

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread Tom C
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:33:17 + The nonsensical part of it lies in taking what is essentially good news and trying to twist

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread John Forbes
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:05:47 +0100, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Tom C wrote: Point it out the nonsense then to me big guy. Thanks for the compliment. ;-) The nonsense is to do with the fervour to prove/disprove who has the biggest dick, Canon,

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread John Forbes
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:33:17 + The nonsensical part of it lies in taking what is essentially good news and trying to twist it into something negative. You had to work hard to make bad

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread Tom C
, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:33:17 + The nonsensical part of it lies in taking what

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:26:33 -0400 Of course you care whether Pentax succeeds. You root for failure. You try to find the dark side

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread Tom C
or numbered. From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:04:06 -0500 TomC, 20 some years ago there was a study of companies market

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread Tom C
: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:04:06 -0500 TomC, 20 some years ago there was a study of companies market share and profitability (PIMS). It has shaped thinking on the subject and corporate actions since then. In short, it looked across a broad array of markets

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Where might Pentax fall in these lists were the company to have a few more models available? We may have an answer shortly ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: John Forbes I think most of us were aware that Canon has more than one model, Tom, but no doubt those who weren't are grateful

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread John Forbes
Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:33:17 + The nonsensical part of it lies in taking what is essentially good news and trying to twist it into something negative. You had to work hard to make bad news out of this data. Paul

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/8/06, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: it's a lot more fun to just sit on the sidelines and hurl brickbats. Mark! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML

The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread Mark Roberts
http://www.dslrphoto.com/2006/08/17/japan-most-popular-digital-camera-ranking-aug-7-to-aug-13-2006/ Behind the Nikon D200 and the Sony A100, but ahead of a whole lot of Canons and Nikons. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread keith_w
Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.dslrphoto.com/2006/08/17/japan-most-popular-digital-camera-ranking-aug-7-to-aug-13-2006/ Behind the Nikon D200 and the Sony A100, but ahead of a whole lot of Canons and Nikons. The K100D sells there for only US$550? Is that without lens? keith whaley --

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread Mark Roberts
keith_w wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.dslrphoto.com/2006/08/17/japan-most-popular-digital-camera-ranking-aug-7-to-aug-13-2006/ Behind the Nikon D200 and the Sony A100, but ahead of a whole lot of Canons and Nikons. The K100D sells there for only US$550? Is that without lens? And the

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread John Forbes
It's nice to see Pentax ahead of all the Canons. Be interesting to watch the share price over the next few months. With any luck that nasty asset-stripper Abe X will sell up and move on. John On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:50:45 +0100, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: keith_w wrote:

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread Tom C
, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:54:03 +0100 It's nice to see

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread keith_w
Tom C wrote: It's one Pentax model vs. how many Canons combined? It's only a one-week snapshot of the country of Japan. It's a new model so one might anticipate high sales shortly after release, to be likewise eclipsed by sales of a subsequent model (Pentax or competitor). Tom C.

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread keith_w
Mark Roberts wrote: keith_w wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.dslrphoto.com/2006/08/17/japan-most-popular-digital-camera-ranking-aug-7-to-aug-13-2006/ Behind the Nikon D200 and the Sony A100, but ahead of a whole lot of Canons and Nikons. The K100D sells [in Japan] for only US$550?

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread Tom C
, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:27:51 -0700 Tom C wrote: It's one Pentax model vs. how many

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread Mark Roberts
keith_w wrote: It's a DATA POINT, for Pete's sake, not something chiseled in granite! HAR! Quote file 2006! -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:54:03 +0100 It's nice to see Pentax ahead of all the Canons. Be interesting to watch the share price over the next few months. With any luck that nasty asset-stripper Abe X

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread Tom C
PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:54:03 +0100 It's nice to see Pentax ahead of all the Canons. Be interesting to watch the share price over

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread K.Takeshita
On 8/17/06 7:17 PM, Paul Stenquist, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My local camera store told me that they were amazed by the demand for the K100. In the past, they've rarely stocked any Pentax equipment. Now they have the K100 and all the DA lenses. In Japan, Pentax factory cannot meet the demand

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 18/08/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Japan, Pentax factory cannot meet the demand even on a 3 shift basis. There is a waiting queue and you have to wait for varying time in some areas before you can get your paws on it, which of course is very rare for the (past) Pentax. So

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread Tom C
that in behind the scenes. Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread K.Takeshita
On 8/17/06 8:24 PM, Digital Image Studio, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So would you say they priced it correctly? Doesn't seem so. I think it's very CHEAP for what customers can get. Pentax obviously went for the most bang for the money using existing component and some. When people see good

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread K.Takeshita
On 8/17/06 8:34 PM, Tom C, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would they be giving a rebate if they have trouble meeting pent up demand? The rebate was offered just before the product launch, not after. It was a sudden decision and I believe it was to counter Sony at the time. It may have ended on

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 18/08/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/17/06 8:24 PM, Digital Image Studio, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's very CHEAP for what customers can get. Pentax obviously went for the most bang for the money using existing component and some. When people see good product at

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:17:01 -0400 HAR! You wonder why your

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Even if they're not making a huge profit on this camera's apparent popularity, they are putting people on the Pentax track. Many of them will buy lenses. That will make them likely repeat customers. Lens investment is a great thing if you're selling cameras. It's one way to ensure owner

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:24:21 +1000 On 18/08/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Japan, Pentax factory cannot meet the demand even on a 3 shift basis. There is a waiting queue and you have to wait

Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread graywolf
List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:24:21 +1000 On 18/08/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Japan, Pentax factory cannot meet the demand even on a 3 shift basis. There is a waiting