RE: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread Bob W
Bill, Aren't we the Great Satin or what down here in the USA. I don't have any trouble taking pictures here. How about you in Canada? Canada is the Great Nylon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread David Savage
On 28 February 2010 03:06, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Bill, Aren't we the Great Satin or what down here in the USA. I don't have any trouble taking pictures here. How about you in Canada? Canada is the Great Nylon New York London are the Great Nylon Canada is the Great Beaver Pelt

RE: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread Bob W
Bill, Aren't we the Great Satin or what down here in the USA. I don't have any trouble taking pictures here. How about you in Canada? Canada is the Great Nylon New York London are the Great Nylon Canada is the Great Beaver Pelt Probably explains why there are so few

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/27 Cotty cotty...@mac.com: On 27/2/10, Subash, discombobulated, unleashed: if governments thrive by creating paranoia, on a first reading at least, Cotty's post appeared to me as evidence of the fact that they've succeeded quite well. I do not read the same out of what I wrote as you do

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/2/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Come on - that's not intelligence, that's stupidity. Why are they wasting half a day on the computer when someone's reported a possible firearm? They should have had you cuffed over the back of that Landy in seconds with a dozen pump-action shotguns

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/2/10, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: I fully endorse your POV that this doesn't happen most of the time because the police is reasonable. I have a good story about private security guards on the Canary Wharf to the same tune. However I do think there's something wrong, somewhere,

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/27 Cotty cotty...@mac.com: On 27/2/10, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: Trust the Norwegians to talk some sense :) On that bombshell, I'm bowing out of this thread. Cheers. Yeah, I realised I was not synched to the beat of the debate until I got to about the 90th reply... :-(

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: And what the hell is an antisocial positioning of a camera? I mean: What complete idiocy. All this goes a long way at explaining what the media have made of us photographers and our cameras, over the last two decades, and how the perception of people

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAUan2DXBsk Sneaky photographers... Actually, that guy's been rather lucky. I've been stopped by the French police in Dunkirk, last xmas, taking one of my usual nighttime photos of the steel mill over there. Their

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread steve harley
On 2010-02-27 11:37 , Cotty wrote: On 27/2/10, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed: i felt the same way too -- he was polite, open and patient; interesting the difference in perceptions here -- some see such straightforward behavior as being a dick ... He was being a robot dick. He

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2010-02-27 Thread Derby Chang
David Savage wrote: Today I spent 5 hours wandering the streets of Fremantle with a few photographer friends. We were very obvious, and we didn't get any particularly strange looks (we do silly looking things when we get together). The only time the cops approached us is after we talked a

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P N Stenquist Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 Of course. But if no one ever intervened, we'd all be goose stepping today. You gotta go with your gut sometimes. Yup, pick out the one time we should

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P N Stenquist Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 frequently they have access to more information than the rest of us ever get to see. Pity they habitually appear to misuse it. William Robb -- PDML

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 As a point of principle I suppose I agree that stop and search is open to abuse and judging by the original youtube video, it is plain to see. However, I still maintain

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 The guy with the camera suddenly became the guy with the attitude, and that's why he was tossed in a cell. Could you quote me the statute that says having

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 The activity isn't suspicious - the manner in which it is carried out could possibly be. Trying to hide the fact one has a camera would come under that. Think like

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread Christine Aguila
From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com My point was that the general public are not only more aware of what's going on around them, but are not afraid to report it. Agreed. 1) The general public hear repeated taped announcements on subways, buses, and airports or are given security

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread Christine Aguila
Yep, Ralf's point is well taken! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:07 PM Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February 2010

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread P N Stenquist
On Feb 27, 2010, at 5:10 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: P N Stenquist Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 Of course. But if no one ever intervened, we'd all be goose stepping today. You gotta go with your gut

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread Joseph McAllister
:33 , Christine Aguila wrote: Yep, Ralf's point is well taken! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:07 PM Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread Christine Aguila
Excellent advice, Joe! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February 2010 Reply

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2010-02-27 Thread David Savage
On 28 February 2010 05:10, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: David Savage wrote: Today I spent 5 hours wandering the streets of Fremantle with a few photographer friends. We were very obvious, and we didn't get any particularly strange looks (we do silly looking things when we get

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread David Savage
On 28 February 2010 06:13, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 As a point of principle I suppose I agree that stop and search is open to abuse and judging

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread David Savage
On 28 February 2010 06:14, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 The guy with the camera suddenly became the guy with the attitude, and that's why he was tossed

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 Bill, Aren't we the Great Satin or what down here in the USA. I don't have any trouble taking pictures here. How about you in Canada? Satin, I like that. Smooth

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 The guy with the camera suddenly became the guy with the attitude, and that's why he was tossed in a cell. Could you quote me the statute that says having

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:56 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: As I mentioned earlier in this thread, a friend of mine has been accosted by the police twice in the past year for photographing while in a wheelchair. Well no, I believe you said in his VAN. Van with handicapped plates, I'd

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread Subash
thanks for the detailed reply cotty. unfortunately after almost 6 years my compaq laptop just breathed its last. must have something to do with all the flame wars going on here lately. will get back after i get myself a new machine :) regards, subash On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Cotty

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-27 Thread Subash
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:31 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Feb 27, 2010, at 12:28 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2010-02-27 06:13 , paul stenquist wrote: I think that's true, but the alternative may have been worse: a mega Iran and a strong Soviet presence in the middle

UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread Rob Studdert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAUan2DXBsk Sneaky photographers... -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread David Savage
On 26 February 2010 17:52, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAUan2DXBsk Sneaky photographers... Yes. They will be the ruination of all we hold dear. Especially them Leicaphiles. Interesting video good on him for sticking up for his rights. DS --

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread Charles Robinson
On Feb 26, 2010, at 6:59, David Savage wrote: On 26 February 2010 17:52, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAUan2DXBsk Sneaky photographers... Yes. They will be the ruination of all we hold dear. Especially them Leicaphiles. Interesting video

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread Derby Chang
Rob Studdert wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAUan2DXBsk Sneaky photographers... That's outrageous. I hope he's not going to leave it there -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/2/10, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAUan2DXBsk Sneaky photographers... Sorry but that guy was being a total dick. he was adversarial by nature and got what was coming to him - because the police can. It's not the same as it was only a few years

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cotty Sorry but that guy was being a total dick. he was adversarial by nature and got what was coming to him - because the police can. It's not the same as it was only a few years ago, we live in a different society - admittedly not an ideal society but

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote: Enjoy living in the Fourth Reich My advice is to stock up on collectible spoons while you can... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 Enjoy living in the Fourth Reich My advice is to stock up on collectible spoons while you can... Maybe we should melt our cameras down and make them

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote: From: Mark Roberts Enjoy living in the Fourth Reich My advice is to stock up on collectible spoons while you can... Maybe we should melt our cameras down and make them into collectible spoons, since we aren't going to be allowed to use them in the not to distant future.

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread Cotty
Har, I wondered who would take the bait - excellent. I meant it all though. On 26/2/10, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Sorry Cotty, but that is a crock of shit. Not at all mate. The police are living in a Hollywood fantasy world where people with big cameras are bad people. They

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27/02/2010, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: That may well be in your experience. Note that the youtube video only shows what appears to be a Leica (M8?) with a not particularly large lens. Note also that the police can be heard explaining that it wasn't the photography that was causing

RE: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread Bob W
This is where I think it'd all gone wrong, you assume there must be a reason, I'm betting someone just has strange ideas. I was caught in a fairly volatile discussion the other day, I'm minding my business shooting the local Chinese new year street festival and I shot across the table of

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread Cotty
On 27/2/10, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: This is where I think it'd all gone wrong, you assume there must be a reason, I'm betting someone just has strange ideas. I was caught in a fairly volatile discussion the other day, I'm minding my business shooting the local Chinese new year

RE: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread Bob W
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAUan2DXBsk Sneaky photographers... Sorry but that guy was being a total dick. he was adversarial by nature and got what was coming to him - because the police can. It's not the same as it was only a few years ago, we live in a different society -

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread paul stenquist
On Feb 26, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Cotty wrote: On 27/2/10, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: This is where I think it'd all gone wrong, you assume there must be a reason, I'm betting someone just has strange ideas. I was caught in a fairly volatile discussion the other day, I'm minding

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 William Robb wrote: Enjoy living in the Fourth Reich My advice is to stock up

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 03:34:41PM -0500, Mark Roberts scripsit: The thinking of the thugs with badges undoubtedly goes like this: A real terrorist is almost certainly going to use as inconspicuous a camera as possible, but if he does no one will blame me if I miss it. People with large

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread Bob Sullivan
Stolen stuff? Maybe that's why no photos are welcome. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/02/2010, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: That may well be in your experience. Note that the youtube video only shows what appears to be a

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27/02/2010, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Stolen stuff? Maybe that's why no photos are welcome. I very much doubt it, it was all the cheap stuff everyone else had, just a case of total lack of knowledge of the laws of the land I believe. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio)

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread Subash
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:36:22 + Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: nature and got what was coming to him - because the police can. It's not the same as it was only a few years ago, we live in a different society - admittedly not an ideal society but whose fault is that... Cotty, IIRC, this is

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread Subash
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:23:42 +0530 Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:36:22 + Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: nature and got what was coming to him - because the police can. It's not the same as it was only a few years ago, we live in a different society -

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread Derby Chang
Rob Studdert wrote: This is where I think it'd all gone wrong, you assume there must be a reason, I'm betting someone just has strange ideas. I was caught in a fairly volatile discussion the other day, I'm minding my business shooting the local Chinese new year street festival and I shot across

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 My advice is to stock up on collectible spoons while you can... Or move to Canada. A friend of mine here has been hassled twice by the police

Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010

2010-02-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Subash Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February 2010 nature and got what was coming to him - because the police can. It's not the same as it was only a few years ago, we live in a different society - admittedly

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