why do you have to import using PSE?
open the
card/camera and copy the
files.
Herb
I think its a default. I get the same thing when i plug a card into my reader,
it opens
Elements Photo
Browser and download.
I was going to fiqure out how to
Is this on your Mac OS system or your Windows system?
On Mac OS X, you set the preferences for what to do when a camera or
card reader are connected using the Image Capture application.
Most of the time, I use iView MediaPro to transfer image files from
card to computer because it unwinds
Is this on your Mac OS system or your
Windows system?
My windows system Godfrey.
On Mac OS X, you set the preferences for what to do when a camera or
card reader are connected using the Image Capture application.
So far i have tried the mac with a
Laziness, mostly. It's easy. Plus, it allows me to do the catalogueing
immediately after the files are imported. I found that if I didn't do
it immediately, it didn't get done.
('Course now, I'm finding that this may be causing me grief further on
in the process. )
dk
On 11/22/05, Herb Chong
Pardon my ignorance. What's the difference between importing the files
with PSE and just copying them from the card to a folder on the hard disk?
Does importing imply or mean something more than that?
Shel
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax
On 11/22/05, Herb Chong wrote:
why do you
Not really. It just automates the process. Creates a new directory
based on import date and time, and brings all the new images up in a
new window for cataloguing (or deletion).
If you move images around outside of PSE (i.e. in the windows
environment) after they've been catalogued, you may screw
, 2005 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: Which RAW converter?
I think its a default. I get the same thing when i plug a card into my
reader, it opens
Elements Photo
Browser and download.
I was going to fiqure out how to disable it, but i kinda like the slide
show it gives you
after your done
storing.
up the
list for editing without third party tools.
Herb
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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: Which RAW converter?
Is this on your Mac OS system or your Windows system
Pro to generate my quick and dirty GESO pages though.
Herb
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From: Dave Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: Which RAW converter?
Laziness, mostly. It's easy. Plus, it allows me to do
In a message dated 11/23/2005 4:24:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: Which RAW converter?
I think its a default. I get the same thing when i plug a card into my
On Nov 23, 2005, at 9:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So far i have tried the mac with a 512 mg jump drive(i just drag
and dropped into a test
folder)and a CF card reader. I think i did the same thing.However i
did this before installing PS on the
Mac so that might change a bit.
Is anyone happy using Adobe Elements
4 and
Adobe Raw converter?
What about RawShooter?
Hi Mark.
I have not upgraded to El 4 from El 3 yet, but i find the raw converter in El 3
works
well.I have limited
experience in Raw, but it does what i'm
I agree, Herb. I'd like to get comfortable with one convertor and
stick with it. I was/am looking at RSE for *all* raw conversions,
largely because of the ablity to do batch conversions. However I use
the organizer in PSE to import and manage images, so I'm still using
PSE3. Ends up something
Workflow and directory structure work hand in hand. My workflow goes
this way:
1) Download PEFs to external drive 1 in DL folder
2) DNG Convert to DNGs on working drive in new folder named by date
3) Move PEFs to PEFArchive on external drive 1.
4) Open DNG folder with Bridge, let it build
Hmmm... Thank you Godfrey, that's quite helpful. I hadn't really
considered changing the first step in the process. I've got to give
that some thought.
dk
On 11/22/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Workflow and directory structure work hand in hand. My workflow goes
this way:
1)
why do you have to import using PSE? open the card/camera and copy the
files.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: Dave Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: Which RAW converter?
I agree, Herb. I'd like to get
In a message dated 11/22/2005 4:28:46 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
why do you have to import using PSE? open the card/camera and copy the
files.
Herb
===
Yes, that is what I do. It's faster, for one thing. (I do it from card.)
I don't care that they don't have
i never rename my files. that is what folders and my cataloging program for.
do you give database records descriptive record ids?
Herb
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: Which RAW converter
Rob,
Thanks, this works perfectly in ACR. No need for Pentax Raw anymore.
Jack
On 11/20/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 20 Nov 2005 at 16:35, Jack Isidore wrote:
Rob,
I will try this. I should have a kodak grey card somewhere. I guess I
have to shoot this greycard under
I've just started playing with RawShooter, (instead of Elements3) for
batch work .
Too early to draw any conclusions, other than bringing the batch
outputs into the PSE3 Organizer is another step in the workflow.
(sigh) It keeps growing
(by the way, I'm firmly in the Raw camp now).
dk
On
Subject: Re: Which RAW converter?
I've just started playing with RawShooter, (instead of Elements3) for
batch work .
Too early to draw any conclusions, other than bringing the batch
outputs into the PSE3 Organizer is another step in the workflow.
(sigh) It keeps growing
I can't decide which RAW converter is the best. I have tried the
latest Adobe beta and Pentax.
Adobe has more options like noise and color fringing reduction. The
white balance settings drive me nuts. Only As Shot or Manual are
usable. Adobe RAW would be nice since it allows me to convert PEF
can't decide which RAW converter is the best. I have tried the
latest Adobe beta and Pentax.
Adobe has more options like noise and color fringing reduction. The
white balance settings drive me nuts. Only As Shot or Manual are
usable. Adobe RAW would be nice since it allows me to convert PEF to
DNG
in
the way they work
Shel
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax
[Original Message]
From: Jack Isidore
I can't decide which RAW converter is the best. I have tried the
latest Adobe beta and Pentax.
Adobe has more options like noise and color fringing reduction. The
white balance
for these presets,
although there is high similarity.
Herb...
- Original Message -
From: Jack Isidore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: Which RAW converter?
If I use the same RAW shot (in camera as Daylight, should be Cloudy
on the basis of that. However I prefer to set it by eye to a
temperature that pleases me.
Paul
On Nov 20, 2005, at 5:54 AM, Jack Isidore wrote:
I can't decide which RAW converter is the best. I have tried the
latest Adobe beta and Pentax.
Adobe has more options like noise and color fringing reduction
On 20 Nov 2005 at 12:56, Jack Isidore wrote:
If I use the same RAW shot (in camera as Daylight, should be Cloudy)
and select Cloudy in Pentax RAW I get exactly what I want. In Adobe
RAW I must select manual and use the sliders. Cloudy in Adobe would
result in wrong colors. Maybe I am missing
will
get what Adobe defines that to be. there isn't a standard for these presets,
although there is high similarity.
Herb...
- Original Message -
From: Jack Isidore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: Which RAW converter
In a message dated 11/20/2005 2:55:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I can't decide which RAW converter is the best. I have tried the
latest Adobe beta and Pentax.
Adobe has more options like noise and color fringing reduction. The
white balance settings drive me nuts. Only
Try RAWshooter Essentials:
http://www.pixmantec.com/products/rawshooter_essentials.html
It's free and excellent.
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
alternative. Bibble is
another. There is an OpenSource project as well, but I can't remember
the name...
Jostein
- Original Message -
From: Jack Isidore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 11:54 AM
Subject: Which RAW converter?
I can't decide
Is anyone happy using Adobe Elements 4 and Adobe Raw converter?
What about RawShooter?
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 5:38 AM
Subject: RE: Which RAW converter?
Why are only As Shot or Manual
Mark Stringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is anyone happy using Adobe Elements 4 and Adobe Raw converter?
What about RawShooter?
I use both. I use RAWshooter for batches and Adobe Camera RAW for
individual images (critical work).
I use Camera RAW in Photoshop CS2, not Elements, but it's the same
Yep,
that's the one I forgot. :-)
Jostein
- Original Message -
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: Which RAW converter?
Try RAWshooter Essentials:
http://www.pixmantec.com/products
Rob,
I will try this. I should have a kodak grey card somewhere. I guess I
have to shoot this greycard under controlled lighting with the
different camera white balance settings. Convert it to neutral gray in
Adobe RAW and save the profile. Correct me if i'm wrong?
Jack
What you are missing is
situations. you will have to slide the tint control, but using the dropper
is far faster.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: Jack Isidore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: Which RAW converter?
My standards :) which I
crowds
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
-Original Message-
From: Jack Isidore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20. november 2005 16:36
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Which RAW converter?
Rob,
I will try this. I should have a kodak grey
and Photoshop
CS2 to build the full workflow scenarios.
Godfrey
On Nov 20, 2005, at 2:54 AM, Jack Isidore wrote:
I can't decide which RAW converter is the best. I have tried the
latest Adobe beta and Pentax.
Adobe has more options like noise and color fringing reduction. The
white balance
Is anyone happy using Adobe Elements 4 and Adobe Raw converter?
What about RawShooter?
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 5:38 AM
Subject: RE: Which RAW converter?
Why are only As Shot or Manual
Hi G ...
istD and istDS PEF files are compatible with ACR 2.4 and later. Probably
the istDL will work, but I don't know of anyone who's actually tried it.
The DS2 is an even bigger ??
Shel
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax
[Original Message]
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
First: why are
and Photoshop CS2 to build the full workflow scenarios.
Godfrey
On Nov 20, 2005, at 2:54 AM, Jack Isidore wrote:
I can't decide which RAW converter is the best. I have tried the
latest Adobe beta and Pentax.
Adobe has more options like noise and color fringing reduction. The
white balance
]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Date: 11/20/2005 9:49:29 AM
Subject: Re: Which RAW converter?
Hi G ...
istD and istDS PEF files are compatible with ACR 2.4 and later. Probably
the istDL will work, but I don't know of anyone who's actually tried it.
The DS2 is an even bigger ??
Shel
You
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Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Which RAW converter?
Having used both, I would never pick the Pentax RAW converter for any
serious work.
First: why are you using the Camera Raw beta? Unless it is that the
PEF files you're trying to use are not compatible with CR v3.2, I
would NOT use
Yes, ACR v2.4 supports the D and DS PEF files. My question was to ask
whether Jack was using a DL or DS2 and found them incompatible with
ACR v3.2.
- If you're using PSE3-4, you can use ACR v2.4, v3.0, v3.1, v3.2 and
v3.3beta at this point in time.
- If you're using PS CS, you can use ACR
I've heard from a large number of people using PSE3 and 4 along with
ACR. They seem to be satisfied with it.
Similarly, a lot of folks like RawShooter Essentials. I can't
evaluate that one as it does not run on Mac OS X, and I only use Mac
OS X. But from comparison tests I've seen, ACR
On 11/20/05, Mark Stringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about RawShooter?
Hmm... is nice, is free (with a quite inexpensive 'pro' version) but
the white balance doesn't seems to match the camera settings. Picasa
(which is not a raw converter) does a much better job imho.
--
Best regards,
On 20 Nov 2005 at 16:35, Jack Isidore wrote:
Rob,
I will try this. I should have a kodak grey card somewhere. I guess I
have to shoot this greycard under controlled lighting with the
different camera white balance settings. Convert it to neutral gray in
Adobe RAW and save the profile.
Yes, I saw that.
BTW: Adobe didn't say that the v2.4 or v3.0 or 3.1 versions worked
with the DS until recently. They finally added the DS to the list
when they released v3.2, I believe. There is always the possibility
that v3.2 does support the DL/DS2. Only way to know for sure is to
On Nov 20, 2005, at 10:03 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:
How is the Raw converter crippled by using it with elements instead
of CS? I think this is the point I am trying to discern.
It's not so much crippled as not supporting features that require
the more complex, deeper libraries of Photoshop
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