Re: combat photography

2007-02-09 Thread mike wilson
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/09 Fri AM 02:39:04 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: combat photography On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 09:21:42PM -0500, John Sessoms wrote: This one (for the ford Ka) runs it pretty close for bad taste

Re: combat photography

2007-02-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/7/2007 9:11:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Try the Polo then... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1aVSXvcV3M William Robb = That has got to be one of the worst commercials, ever. Like in really, really, really bad taste. Marnie aka

Re: combat photography

2007-02-08 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 11:32:14AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/7/2007 9:11:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Try the Polo then... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1aVSXvcV3M William Robb = That has got to be one of the worst

Re: combat photography

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/8/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 11:32:14AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/7/2007 9:11:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Try the Polo then... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1aVSXvcV3M William Robb

Re: combat photography

2007-02-08 Thread Cory Papenfuss
This one (for the ford Ka) runs it pretty close for bad taste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTCf2Z50ohU Thanks, John. I needed that. First time I laughed out loud all day. I'd seen that before, but I'd forgotten how funny it was... and I *like* cats... :) -Cory --

Re: combat photography

2007-02-08 Thread John Sessoms
This one (for the ford Ka) runs it pretty close for bad taste: That one exceeds it by far in bad taste. The Polo commercial had the advantage of a slight, if twisted, humor. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: combat photography

2007-02-08 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 09:21:42PM -0500, John Sessoms wrote: This one (for the ford Ka) runs it pretty close for bad taste: That one exceeds it by far in bad taste. The Polo commercial had the advantage of a slight, if twisted, humor. A sense of humour is a very personal thing. I found

Re: combat photography

2007-02-07 Thread John Sessoms
From: Kenneth Waller On a related matter - One of my brothers was stationed on the battleship Iowa for several years. The Iowa had 3 turrets of 16 guns. The projectile fired weights approximately the same as a VW bug. Around 2000# IIRC. VW bug gets better gas mileage though. -- PDML

Re: combat photography

2007-02-07 Thread Kenneth Waller
VW bug gets better gas mileage though. Yeah but it doesn't have quite the same impact. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: combat photography From: Kenneth Waller On a related matter - One of my brothers was stationed

Re: combat photography

2007-02-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller Subject: Re: combat photography VW bug gets better gas mileage though. Yeah but it doesn't have quite the same impact. Try the Polo then... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1aVSXvcV3M William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML

Re: combat photography

2007-02-06 Thread mike wilson
From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/06 Tue AM 12:52:31 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: combat photography On 2/05/07 7:32 PM, P. J. Alling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'd have thought 16 would have been big enough... K.Takeshita wrote

Re: combat photography

2007-02-06 Thread Adam Maas
The AK-47 (7.62x39 Russian) round is a low-power round. It will make anybody unhappy, but it doesn't penetrate well against anything tougher than human. It's more of a beefed up SMG round than a real rifle round, as it ist replacement (5.45mm in the AK-74 and siblings). If that had been

Re: combat photography

2007-02-06 Thread Dave Kennedy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: Re: combat photography Digital Image Studio wrote: On 04/02/07, mike wilson [EMAIL

Re: combat photography

2007-02-06 Thread Kenneth Waller
I would have thought an 18 naval gun would be longer than 7'! ;-) Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 7:32 PM Subject: Re: combat photography You'd have thought 16 would

Re: combat photography

2007-02-06 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/06/07 12:52 PM, Kenneth Waller, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have thought an 18 naval gun would be longer than 7'! ;-) That would be an amazing looking gun, wouldn't it? :-). Even more amazing is PDML's ability to elongate a BB gun pellet into a 7' long 1.6 ton cannon ball in a

Re: combat photography

2007-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
:32 PM Subject: Re: combat photography You'd have thought 16 would have been big enough... K.Takeshita wrote: On 2/05/07 6:03 PM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is getting silly, but didn't I give you a salvo of 18 inch naval guns? That should do, period

Re: combat photography

2007-02-06 Thread Kenneth Waller
PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:24 PM Subject: Re: combat photography I think that's the length of the shell... Kenneth Waller wrote: I would have thought an 18 naval gun would be longer than 7'! ;-) Kenneth Waller - Original Message

Re: combat photography

2007-02-06 Thread Gonz
Well, if you want to really get into that range, take a look at this beast: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Babylon It was supposed to be a 1 meter gun (about 39 inches)!! rg On 2/5/07, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is getting silly, but didn't I give you a salvo of 18 inch

Re: combat photography

2007-02-06 Thread Stephen Moore
Gonz wrote: Well, if you want to really get into that range, take a look at this beast: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Babylon It was supposed to be a 1 meter gun (about 39 inches)!! rg Not quite so big as the Saddam gun, but this one actually saw service (of a sort) during WWII:

Re: combat photography

2007-02-06 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/06/07 4:14 PM, Stephen Moore, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite so big as the Saddam gun, but this one actually saw service (of a sort) during WWII: http://www.aopt91.dsl.pipex.com/railgun/Content/Railwayguns/German/Dora%20inde x.htm Seriously large projectiles... I am now

Re: combat photography

2007-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Still pikers, the Germans were actually building this thing in WWII. (RAF bomber command killed the London Gun) but a smaller version was used to shoot at the channel ports after D-Day. V-3 London Gun http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-3_cannon Lots of information at the bottom of this page,

Re: combat photography

2007-02-06 Thread Adam Maas
The V-3 gun was somewhat smaller than the Bull guns like Project Babylon. The Bull guns were designed as an alternate method of orbiting small satellites and were intended to be much larger and longer ranged (750km or LEO for the smaller 'Baby Babylon' gun)than the comparatively small and

Re: combat photography

2007-02-05 Thread Gonz
Nah. Try: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8 rg On 2/4/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still wimpy, Russian, (WWII), 50 caliber antitank rifle round. K.Takeshita wrote: On 2/03/07 5:38 PM, mike wilson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 04/02/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: combat photography

2007-02-05 Thread K.Takeshita
This is getting silly, but didn't I give you a salvo of 18 inch naval guns? That should do, period :-). Ken On 2/05/07 5:52 PM, Gonz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah. Try: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8 rg On 2/4/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still wimpy, Russian,

Re: combat photography

2007-02-05 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/05/07 6:03 PM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is getting silly, but didn't I give you a salvo of 18 inch naval guns? That should do, period :-). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: combat photography

2007-02-05 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/05/07 6:03 PM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is getting silly, but didn't I give you a salvo of 18 inch naval guns? That should do, period :-). Just to satisfy the curiosity of some, and for the heck of it, this is a pic of 18 inch cannon whose length is over 7 feet, reaching

Re: combat photography

2007-02-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Hey, the Nikon not only won't stop that but you'll cut the photographer, (and what ever is standing behind him/her), in half... Gonz wrote: Nah. Try: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8 rg On 2/4/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still wimpy, Russian, (WWII), 50 caliber

Re: combat photography

2007-02-05 Thread P. J. Alling
You'd have thought 16 would have been big enough... K.Takeshita wrote: On 2/05/07 6:03 PM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is getting silly, but didn't I give you a salvo of 18 inch naval guns? That should do, period :-). Just to satisfy the curiosity of some, and for

Re: combat photography

2007-02-05 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/05/07 7:32 PM, P. J. Alling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'd have thought 16 would have been big enough... K.Takeshita wrote: On 2/05/07 6:03 PM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is getting silly, but didn't I give you a salvo of 18 inch naval guns? That should do,

RE: combat photography

2007-02-05 Thread John Sessoms
Interesting. The show was about USMC combat photographer. A friend's wife just went through the Combat photog school(Army), they were using Canon stuff there. But the US Navy and Marines has long used Nikon stuff (in fact they kept the Nikon F3 in short run production for several years

Re: combat photography

2007-02-05 Thread John Sessoms
From: mike wilson Oh, wimpy ideas! Let's go big bang! 7.62 NATO armour piercing incendiary round. Nikon will take it (no?) If NATO ever makes one. Armour piercing _and_ incendiary? NATO doesn't make one, but the U.S. Army does; not in 7.62 though - it's in .50cal for the M2 or Barrett.

Re: combat photography

2007-02-05 Thread David Savage
This isn't as cool as that cannon or Ken's 18 incher , ;-), but it's pretty neat none the less: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Storm http://www.metalstorm.com/ Cheers, Dave At 07:52 AM 6/02/2007, Gonz wrote: Nah. Try: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8 rg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: combat photography

2007-02-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Now this would have been cool, if they'd ever built one... *http://tinyurl.com/yrcaka* David Savage wrote: This isn't as cool as that cannon or Ken's 18 incher , ;-), but it's pretty neat none the less: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Storm http://www.metalstorm.com/ Cheers, Dave

Re: combat photography

2007-02-04 Thread P. J. Alling
Still wimpy, Russian, (WWII), 50 caliber antitank rifle round. K.Takeshita wrote: On 2/03/07 5:38 PM, mike wilson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 04/02/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More likely a .22 Or baton round. A BB from a modified air rifle perhaps?

Re: combat photography

2007-02-04 Thread P. J. Alling
It could have been nearly spent. From what I know the AK47 is very good at penetration at medium and close range. Bob W wrote: More likely a .22 Or baton round. A BB from a modified air rifle perhaps? ;-) Sucker arrow from a toy crossbow? Oh, wimpy

combat photography

2007-02-03 Thread Bill Owens
I just watched a show on the history channel about current combat photography. I found it interesting that the U.S. armed forces combat photographers use Nikon equipment. Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: combat photography

2007-02-03 Thread David Savage
The last 2 ANZAC day parades I shot, the official Australian Navy photographer was shooting with Nikon gear also. Cheers, Dave On 2/4/07, Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just watched a show on the history channel about current combat photography. I found it interesting that the U.S

Re: combat photography

2007-02-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bill Owens Subject: combat photography I just watched a show on the history channel about current combat photography. I found it interesting that the U.S. armed forces combat photographers use Nikon equipment. I recall reading somewhere that the F5

Re: combat photography

2007-02-03 Thread David Savage
On 2/4/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bill Owens I just watched a show on the history channel about current combat photography. I found it interesting that the U.S. armed forces combat photographers use Nikon equipment. I recall reading somewhere that the F5 would stop

Re: combat photography

2007-02-03 Thread Adam Maas
Bill Owens wrote: I just watched a show on the history channel about current combat photography. I found it interesting that the U.S. armed forces combat photographers use Nikon equipment. Bill A friend's wife just went through the Combat photog school(Army), they were using Canon

RE: combat photography

2007-02-03 Thread Bill Owens
I can't say for sure, but the shoulder straps appeared to be D1. Bill I just watched a show on the history channel about current combat photography. I found it interesting that the U.S. armed forces combat photographers use Nikon equipment. Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML

RE: combat photography

2007-02-03 Thread Bill Owens
Interesting. The show was about USMC combat photographer. A friend's wife just went through the Combat photog school(Army), they were using Canon stuff there. But the US Navy and Marines has long used Nikon stuff (in fact they kept the Nikon F3 in short run production for several years

RE: combat photography

2007-02-03 Thread Bob W
I just watched a show on the history channel about current combat photography. I found it interesting that the U.S. armed forces combat photographers use Nikon equipment. I recall reading somewhere that the F5 would stop a bullet. Might have been hype. I don't think it would

Re: combat photography

2007-02-03 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 04/02/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last 2 ANZAC day parades I shot, the official Australian Navy photographer was shooting with Nikon gear also. The offical Air force images from the recent Sydney Air show were shot on Nikon (D70s) and Canon (EOS-1D Mark II N), following is

Re: combat photography

2007-02-03 Thread mike wilson
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Bill Owens Subject: combat photography I just watched a show on the history channel about current combat photography. I found it interesting that the U.S. armed forces combat photographers use Nikon equipment. I recall

Re: combat photography

2007-02-03 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 04/02/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More likely a .22 Or baton round. A BB from a modified air rifle perhaps? ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user

Re: combat photography

2007-02-03 Thread mike wilson
Digital Image Studio wrote: On 04/02/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More likely a .22 Or baton round. A BB from a modified air rifle perhaps? ;-) Sucker arrow from a toy crossbow? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: combat photography

2007-02-03 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/03/07 5:38 PM, mike wilson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 04/02/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More likely a .22 Or baton round. A BB from a modified air rifle perhaps? ;-) Sucker arrow from a toy crossbow? Oh, wimpy ideas! Let's go big bang! 7.62 NATO armour

Re: combat photography

2007-02-03 Thread mike wilson
K.Takeshita wrote: On 2/03/07 5:38 PM, mike wilson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 04/02/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More likely a .22 Or baton round. A BB from a modified air rifle perhaps? ;-) Sucker arrow from a toy crossbow? Oh, wimpy ideas! Let's go big bang!

Re: combat photography

2007-02-03 Thread J and K Messervy
And that's the best use for Nikon gear I've ever heard suggested! I recall reading somewhere that the F5 would stop a bullet. Might have been hype. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in

RE: combat photography

2007-02-03 Thread Bob W
More likely a .22 Or baton round. A BB from a modified air rifle perhaps? ;-) Sucker arrow from a toy crossbow? Oh, wimpy ideas! Let's go big bang! 7.62 NATO armour piercing incendiary round. Nikon will take it (no?) If NATO ever makes one. Armour piercing

Re: combat photography

2007-02-03 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/03/07 6:30 PM, mike wilson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/03/07 5:38 PM, mike wilson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 04/02/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More likely a .22 Or baton round. A BB from a modified air rifle perhaps? ;-) Sucker arrow from a toy crossbow? Oh,

Re: combat photography

2007-02-03 Thread Kenneth Waller
Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: Re: combat photography Digital Image Studio wrote: On 04/02/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More likely