Re: pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-15 Thread Thibouille
2011/2/14 Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org: Sun Feb 13 07:44:17 CST 2011 drd1135 at gmail.com wrote: SR can be useful, but only when the subject itself doesn't move. When the subject moves, - you want to have exposure time to freeze the motion, and that's when fast lenses are helpful (or a

Re: pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-15 Thread steve harley
On 2011-02-15 01:25 , Thibouille wrote: The only thing you a fast lens delivers and can't be compensated for correctly is DOF. The rest can be. as one who has lately become very fond of an A 50/1.7, one more thing that can't be compensated for is the nice bright viewfinder image a large

Re: pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-15 Thread Joseph McAllister
Some people (me) when they are closing in on their seventh decade, can no longer hold things steady, or at all sometimes. Ferinstance, try holding a coin steady, any size, by it's edge, between thumb and forefinger. Can with my left, can't with my right. The harder I squeeze, the harder it

Re: pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-14 Thread Igor Roshchin
Sun Feb 13 07:44:17 CST 2011 drd1135 at gmail.com wrote: OTOH, I always try to shoot my 1.4 at 5.6. Not really low light but wonderfully sharp. For very low light I tend to reply on SR, physical support, and the hope of one day getting a K5. I am always surprised when people make a

Re: pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-14 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 14, 2011, at 7:06 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Sun Feb 13 07:44:17 CST 2011 drd1135 at gmail.com wrote: OTOH, I always try to shoot my 1.4 at 5.6. Not really low light but wonderfully sharp. For very low light I tend to reply on SR, physical support, and the hope of one day getting a

Re: pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-14 Thread Steven Desjardins
I generally take still-lifes, and SR does help for those. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Sun Feb 13 07:44:17 CST 2011 drd1135 at gmail.com wrote: OTOH, I always try to shoot my 1.4 at 5.6. Not really low light but wonderfully sharp. For very low light

Re: pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-14 Thread Igor Roshchin
Steven, I guessed that. :-) Igor PS. What is opposite to still-lifes? Moving-deaths? Mon Feb 14 13:20:08 CST 2011 Steven Desjardins wrote: I generally take still-lifes, and SR does help for those. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Sun Feb 13 07:44:17 CST 2011

Re: pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-14 Thread Igor Roshchin
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:41:20 -0500 (EST) From: Igor Roshchin Steven, I guessed that. :-) Igor PS. What is opposite to still-lifes? Moving-deaths? Of those, - I prefer still-lifes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-13 Thread Luiz Felipe
Larry, other than the CA apparent on the 1.4, I got the impression that the focus is slightly near - the right side of the center rose looks sharper than the other. Or you used that border of the rose to focus. It IS softer, there are problems if we look to the 2.8 shot at the same time. Still

Re: pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-13 Thread drd1135
: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:39:24 To: pdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: pfa 50/1.4 sharpness Larry, other than the CA apparent on the 1.4, I got the impression that the focus is slightly near - the right side of the center rose looks sharper than the other. Or you

pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-13 Thread Luiz Felipe
Bob, I did my tests with both m50 flavors I have around, matching the apertures from f11 until both were wide open. I targeted a tiled wall, with coins taped at center and near corners. Running, between rains. Will repeat one of these days with care so I can post results. Mirror used to get

Re: pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's one thing to test a lens for suitable sharpness and focus accuracy. it's quite another thing to compare two lenses. To make an accurate comparison, you would have to test several samples of new lenses on a bullet-proof rig. To test two used lenses, one of which once had to be disassembled

pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-11 Thread Luiz Felipe
Larry, you and Paul got me thinking about a test with Yvon's AF target - just to make sure there is no micro shift made evident by the 1.4 aperture. I understand the 1.4 lenses got slightly worse results wide open than the 1.7, and my rather crude tests point in the same direction. If you get

RE: pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-11 Thread Robert Blakely
It may be just me, but I'd compare the f/1.7 lens with the f/1.4 *AT* f/1.7. Reason? If they're both about the same at f/1.7, then the f/1.4 lens is just as good as the f/1.7 for all purposes you would have used the f/1.7. Bonus: a little more aperture available to control DOF with the 1.4.

Re: pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-11 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Luiz Felipe wrote: Larry, you and Paul got me thinking about a test with Yvon's AF target - just to make sure there is no micro shift made evident by the 1.4 aperture. I understand the 1.4 lenses got slightly worse results wide open than the 1.7, and my rather

pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-10 Thread Larry Colen
I've always had mixed feelings about my pfa 50/1.4. There have been times when I really needed the extra 2/3 stop of speed that it gave me over my f/1.8 glass. When you're shooting slower than 1/15 second and your subjects are moving, that's a critical difference in speed. On the other hand, I

Re: pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Feb 10, 2011, at 5:09 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I've always had mixed feelings about my pfa 50/1.4. There have been times when I really needed the extra 2/3 stop of speed that it gave me over my f/1.8 glass. When you're shooting slower than 1/15 second and your subjects are moving,

Re: pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

2011-02-10 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:43 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Did you manual focus? If you're shooting wide open, and your autofocus is off by even a relatively small amount, your results will be soft. The performance of this lens on my K20 is what first convinced me that fine focus adjustment is a