Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-25 Thread Joseph McAllister
Wait a year and you'll be able to buy the whole kit for $500. Wait five years and you'll be able to buy the whole kit for $250. Wait 25 years and you'll be able to buy the whole kit for $2000. Joseph McAllister Lots of gear, not much time http://gallery.me.com/jomac On Jun 23, 2011, at 14:48

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-24 Thread John Sessoms
From: Darren Addy On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:54 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: If it's done with in camera software, maybe there will be a Bokeh plug-in for PhotoShop someday. Perhaps someday. http://www.alienskin.com/bokeh/index.aspx : ) Kool! Now if I can just find

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:14:25AM +0530, Subash wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/pentaxQ/ the world's smallest interchangeable lens camera :) Ho hum. Not for me. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/23/2011 07:44, Subash wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/pentaxQ/ the world's smallest interchangeable lens camera :) Until someone comes up with a special model of a cell phone where camera lens can be interchanged... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: welcome the pentax q (with sample photos)

2011-06-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 22, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually intrigued by this. Cheers, Christine http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/PENTAXQ/PENTAXQA7.HTM It looks surprisingly nice at ISO 125, though at high ISO they've got a metric assload of

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 23, 2011, at 10:34 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I don't think there's a hope in hell that this is going to allow K mount, (or 645, or 67), lenses to be mounted. When they said it was a digital Auto 110, they meant the combined aperture shutter mechanism, except that they don't need the

Re: welcome the pentax q (with sample photos)

2011-06-23 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/23/2011 11:32, Larry Colen wrote: I will do my best to keep an open mind about this camera. It doesn't immediately threaten my fiscal responsibility, but I can see potential uses for it. The sensor 1/2.3 is a little bit smaller than the powershot G12 1/1.7 (WTF is it with these bizzare

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread SV Hovland
...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av P. J. Alling [webstertwenty...@gmail.com] Sendt: 23. juni 2011 19:28 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: welcome the pentax q I wonder what kind of IQ they've managed to coax out of the sensor. If Pentax has managed to work some of the K-r/K05 magic on the Q, it might

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Ecke PDML
Vidar hovland Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av P. J. Alling [webstertwenty...@gmail.com] Sendt: 23. juni 2011 19:28 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: welcome the pentax q I wonder what kind of IQ they've

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/23/2011 14:05, Ecke PDML wrote: call me silly but I think it will be interesting to many Ecke, you're silly... Here. You have it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly

Re: welcome the pentax q (with sample photos)

2011-06-23 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 12:39 AM Subject: Re: welcome the pentax q (with sample photos) On 6/23/2011 08:30, Christine Aguila wrote: Can't believe I'm saying this, but I

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Thibouille
Mmm this is clearly not a camera for most (if not all) of us. This is for a different market (imo; Japan). An APS-C mirrorless by Pentax is coming soon. Wait for around september. This will be something for us. 2011/6/23 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: On 6/23/2011 14:05, Ecke PDML wrote:

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
Really Folks, it's a pretty certain they are releasing a more serious mirrorless in the fall that is clearly the their DSLRs with K mount lenses. I also remind myself of two things when I see somethign like this: 1. I thought colors were stupid too. 2. I have not faith in Pentax Marketing. I'm

Re: welcome the pentax q (with sample photos)

2011-06-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
/PENTAXQ/PENTAXQA7.HTM - Original Message - From: Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:44 PM Subject: welcome the pentax q http://www.dpreview.com/previews/pentaxQ/ the world's smallest interchangeable lens camera :) -- regards

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
I remember a number of posts pleading for a digital version of the Petnax 110 camera -- a camera with an image area too small to be of much practical use. A camera that used interchangeable lenses with leaf shutters. Hmmm, sounds like the Q;-). Paul On Jun 23, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Steven

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread John Sessoms
From: Subash http://www.dpreview.com/previews/pentaxQ/ the world's smallest interchangeable lens camera :) Finally a digital to fill the Auto-110 niche. I like it. Can't afford it, but I like it. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 /

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread John Sessoms
From: Darren Addy I think it looks incredibly cheap (except it's anything but). And may I just say: A 5.5x crop factor? That would make an 10mm focal length lens the 35mm equiv. of 55mm. (Yes, I got an A in math). Hope you don't like wide angle! I don't see how crop factor is even relevant

Re: welcome the pentax q (with sample photos)

2011-06-23 Thread John Sessoms
On Jun 22, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually intrigued by this. Cheers, Christine http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/PENTAXQ/PENTAXQA7.HTM It's a dead link this morning. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG -

Re: welcome the pentax q (with sample photos)

2011-06-23 Thread Christine Aguila
Indeed! I know what you mean, Steve, but miniatures intrigue me. If the Q series does, indeed, come to North America, and if any of the camera stores in my area decide to carry it, I will go check it out. I've seen the pictures, so I've visualized the size, but I'd very much like to hold it

Re: welcome the pentax q (with sample photos)

2011-06-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
Here it is: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/PENTAXQ/PENTAXQA.HTM The key chain shots are very funny. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:08 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: On Jun 22, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually intrigued

Re: welcome the pentax q (with sample photos)

2011-06-23 Thread Timber
But there are no more sample shots anymore. I saw them in the morning from my phone but it's not there anymore. Anyway probably it wasn't the Pentax Q shots as all the shots were 6 Megapixel only :) .t On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 13:11 -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote: Here it is:

Re: welcome the pentax q (with sample photos)

2011-06-23 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 12:11 PM Subject: Re: welcome the pentax q (with sample photos) Here it is: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/PENTAXQ/PENTAXQA.HTM The key

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
At $800, they are crazy! And 'Toy' lenses??? Attention collectors: buy one before you hear the thud in the marketplace. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:38 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Subash http://www.dpreview.com/previews/pentaxQ/ the world's smallest

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Darren Addy
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:54 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I don't see how crop factor is even relevant in a camera that doesn't use K-mount lenses. This comment confuses me. Crop factor is relevant because most people don't think in Field of View. They think in 35mm camera

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:54 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I don't see how crop factor is even relevant in a camera that doesn't use K-mount lenses. This comment confuses me. Crop factor is relevant

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Darren Addy
Part of my reply below was just WRONG. The 35mm equiv. is not printed on the front of the lens. That was the filter size. My basic multiplication tables have failed me once again. Still, the descriptions refer to the 35mm equiv. and Pentax and reviews all note the 35mm equiv. and crop factor

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Ecke PDML
Is it the 110, APS-C or 35 mm equivalent filter size then? 2011/6/23 Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com: Part of my reply below was just WRONG. The 35mm equiv. is not printed on the front of the lens. That was the filter size. My basic multiplication tables have failed me once again. Still,

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
Fotodiox might be working on the adaptor as we speak. 50 mm K mount lenses are dirt cheap and would pack 12 MP into a 275 FOV, if my math is correct. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Part of my reply below was just WRONG. The 35mm equiv. is not printed

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Darren Addy
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: What I found confusing about your previous comment was the hope you don't like wide angle part. If you're not maintaining backwards compatibility with a previous mount (with a fixed registration distance) there's nothing hard

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Joseph McAllister
Let's hope the lenses don't have square apertures like the 110. /\ \/ ƒ8 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn’t need to lug a camera.” –Lewis Hine On Jun 23, 2011, at 09:38 , Paul Stenquist wrote: I remember a number of posts pleading for a

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thursday, June 23, 2011, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I think this comment (not mine) from the dpreview forum will clarify... This is a real what the? moment. 1/2.3 inch sensor? That's a 7.0mm diagonal. The 7.9mm f1.9 lens is equivalent, in terms of DOF and low light

Re: welcome the pentax q (with sample photos)

2011-06-23 Thread Joseph McAllister
I'd be afraid my pocket knife and pot metal Serenity model on my fob would scratch the lens and dent the body. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn’t need to lug a camera.” –Lewis Hine On Jun 23, 2011, at 10:11 , Steven Desjardins wrote: Here it

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
No matter how good a SCMP 50mm lens may be, it isn't designed for a sensor that small. I doubt that it's resolving power is good enough to look sharp at any reasonably large aperture, before diffraction begins to steal resolution. On 6/23/2011 4:06 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Fotodiox

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
Yeah, I'll be really curious to see some images. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:27 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: No matter how good a SCMP 50mm lens may be, it isn't designed for a sensor that small.  I doubt that it's resolving power is good enough to look sharp at any

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Darren Addy
Has anybody seen specs on the Pentax Q sensor? It is backlit like the Sony Exmor? (Toshiba and Sony both make sensors like this). Also curious about the sensor's pixel pitch. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Ecke PDML
According to my readings it is in fact a backlit Sony sensor. Not sure about exmor though, it didn't say, neither yay nor nay. 2011/6/23 Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com: Has anybody seen specs on the Pentax Q sensor? It is backlit like the Sony Exmor? (Toshiba and Sony both make sensors like

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread P. J. Alling
The previews say it's backlit. Though I'm pretty sure that I'm not the target demographic, (Hell, I'm not sure who the target demographic is for that matter), the sample images that Christine linked to looked pretty good for such a small sensor. I expected them to be horrendous, but they

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: I remember a number of posts pleading for a digital version of the Petnax 110 camera -- a camera with an image area too small to be of much practical use. A camera that used interchangeable lenses with leaf shutters. I remember it, too. My memory is less clear about the

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
I want a digital Retina to go with my digital Auto 110. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:44 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The previews say it's backlit.  Though I'm pretty sure that I'm not the target demographic, (Hell, I'm not sure who the target demographic is for that

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Darren Addy
Somebody is going to have to explain this Bokeh Control Filter thing to me (how it works). Bokeh Control Filter Enjoy effortless bokeh control with the Q’s bokeh control filter. Traditionally controlled through a DSLR lens’s aperture, bokeh is the out of focus part of the background that helps to

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Ecke PDML
I would guess that since the camera has 25 point AF it will store measured distances for all 25 points to have an idea of what is how far away and then apply some sort of progressive blur based on distance... the next firmware update will offer you a choice between 7, 9 and 18 blade diaphragm

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread John Sessoms
From: Darren Addy Somebody is going to have to explain this Bokeh Control Filter thing to me (how it works). Bokeh Control Filter Enjoy effortless bokeh control with the Q?s bokeh control filter. Traditionally controlled through a DSLR lens?s aperture, bokeh is the out of focus part of the

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Darren Addy
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:54 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: If it's done with in camera software, maybe there will be a Bokeh plug-in for PhotoShop someday. Perhaps someday. http://www.alienskin.com/bokeh/index.aspx : ) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread steve harley
On 2011-06-23 15:21 , Darren Addy wrote: Has anybody seen specs on the Pentax Q sensor? some specs are in the article linked at the top of this thread It is backlit like the Sony Exmor? yes Also curious about the sensor's pixel pitch. roughly 650 pixels/mm (rough because 6.17 x 4.55mm

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Anthony Farr
On 24 June 2011 02:38, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I remember a number of posts pleading for a digital version of the Petnax 110 camera -- a camera with an image area too small to be of much practical use. A camera that used interchangeable lenses with leaf shutters. Hmmm,

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Anthony Farr
On 24 June 2011 06:10, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: (earlier posting snipped) I think this comment (not mine) from the dpreview forum will clarify... This is a real what the? moment. 1/2.3 inch sensor? That's a 7.0mm diagonal. The 7.9mm f1.9 lens is equivalent, in terms of DOF

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread David Parsons
It has a plenoptic sensor. :) Bokeh control out the wazoo. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Somebody is going to have to explain this Bokeh Control Filter thing to me (how it works). Bokeh Control Filter Enjoy effortless bokeh control with the Q’s

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
I assume the K mount is so that folks who own Pentax DSLRs will consider the new camera as a compliment for their current system. The lenses will fit and Pentax already makes some good small pancakes. i have the E-P2, and many of the m43 kesnes are bigger than some of their Pentax equivalents. On

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-23 Thread Anthony Farr
On 24 June 2011 12:18, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I assume the K mount is so that folks who own Pentax DSLRs will consider the new camera as a compliment for their current system. The lenses will fit and Pentax already makes some good small pancakes. i have the E-P2, and many

welcome the pentax q

2011-06-22 Thread Subash
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/pentaxQ/ the world's smallest interchangeable lens camera :) -- regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
LOL! That is very cute indeed, but a very silly thing to spend development money on. At least we know Pentax has retained their sense of the absurd. On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/pentaxQ/ the world's smallest

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-22 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/23/2011 07:44, Subash wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/pentaxQ/ the world's smallest interchangeable lens camera :) Subash, you just beat me to it. I was about to make the post with mostly the same content. Pentax, you gotta be kidding on this one... Boris -- PDML

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-22 Thread Darren Addy
I think it looks incredibly cheap (except it's anything but). And may I just say: A 5.5x crop factor? That would make an 10mm focal length lens the 35mm equiv. of 55mm. (Yes, I got an A in math). Hope you don't like wide angle! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-22 Thread P. J. Alling
I wonder what kind of IQ they've managed to coax out of the sensor. If Pentax has managed to work some of the K-r/K05 magic on the Q, it might even be competitive. Based on DPReview's preview the design seems to be a bit schizophrenic, controls aimed at an enthusiast audience, with a sensor

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-22 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/23/2011 08:15, Darren Addy wrote: And may I just say: A 5.5x crop factor? In my book it is a major disappointment. As much as I'd love to have a smaller camera, it is most unlikely to be this one... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-22 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't think there's a hope in hell that this is going to allow K mount, (or 645, or 67), lenses to be mounted. When they said it was a digital Auto 110, they meant the combined aperture shutter mechanism, except that they don't need the mirror, oh and each lens will have one, (rather than

Re: welcome the pentax q (with sample photos)

2011-06-22 Thread Christine Aguila
the pentax q http://www.dpreview.com/previews/pentaxQ/ the world's smallest interchangeable lens camera :) -- regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-22 Thread Darren Addy
With that many mega-pixels on that small a sensor, noise will have to be a problem. And in an interchangable lens camera, even a speck of dust on that sensor is going to cover hundreds of pixels. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: welcome the pentax q

2011-06-22 Thread Darren Addy
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:34 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think there's a hope in hell that this is going to allow K mount, (or 645, or 67), lenses to be mounted. Oh somebody will make an adapter, if Pentax doesn't. You've just given this camera an upside. A

Re: welcome the pentax q (with sample photos)

2011-06-22 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/23/2011 08:30, Christine Aguila wrote: Can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually intrigued by this. Cheers, Christine http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/PENTAXQ/PENTAXQA7.HTM I can't believe you're saying this either, Christine ;-). (-- Sorry Bob, smiley is a must here) Boris

Re: welcome the pentax q (with sample photos)

2011-06-22 Thread Darren Addy
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/23/2011 08:30, Christine Aguila wrote: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/PENTAXQ/PENTAXQA7.HTM Those images look familiar. I swear those are the same test images they used for the K200D (relabeled). : ) Darren