Re: Why do you shoot?
I wonder if photographing cliche subjects is akin to musicians playing the standards. Just as I've lost track of how many pictures I've seen (or taken) of sunsets, pretty flowers or waves crashing at the beach, I have no idea how many times I've heard Summertime, St. James Infirmary, or fever. Yet, every so often, someone will do a version that's almost like hearing a brand new song. I'm not a big fan of piano music, especially as the lead, or solo, instrument. But, I think it was Oscar Peterson that did a (mostly) piano version of Summertime, that the first time a DJ played it at a dance, I was totally blown away. Alternatively, are they more like wines? There are people who may not notice, or if they did notice, may not care about the differences between a bottle of Gallo hearty zinfandel, and a forty year old Bordeaux, in the same way that others might look at something as just another picture of a flower. It's certainly a subject that is fodder for nearly unlimited intellectual wankage. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Yvon Bourque's K-5 e-book review
On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:41 PM, John Mullan wrote: I don't think that the $15 I spent on it was wasted, but the book would be far more appropriate for most of the people on, for example, the DPR pentax SLR forum, than the PDML. I think you'll find there are more that fall into that category than there are PDML'ers. Hence the tome is addressed at that audience. I certainly agree there. That's one reason why I wish that it were structured differently to make it more useful to me, and yet still be useful to the larger audience. jm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm surprised this video hasn't hit the List yet...
On 31/03/2011 01:20, Mark Roberts wrote: Was featured on TOP a few days ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5lEMIf7_FM And all from a grotty little web image. Makes you wonder why we bother. 8-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW week 12 catch-up
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:51 -0500, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm at week 12, but didn't post weeks 9, 10, 11, 12 to the list. Not great stuff, but despite being sick, I kept up. I did try for the Perigee-Super-Moon (week 11). Darrel I went to Montrose Beach area. The shots are really more landscapey than moony. Nothing great, but I was there for the try :-). Just posting for the record. I'm glad I'm doing this, but it's not easy. Sometimes come Saturday I haven't taken a shot, and I start thinking about some new pose I can try to get Darrel to agree to. I actually might try for a self-portrait for next week--if nothing interesting finds its way into my camera. Cheers, Christine http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/ You think a picture-a-week is difficult. My son has set himself a picture-a-day project. I'm glad it's him and not me! - although he is using an iPhone for the project so that probably makes things a bit more achievable. I really like the flag shot - the whole scene has a wonderful sense of grunge. 'The Sun' is nicely done too. Keep it up!! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW64 - See an be seen.
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:24 +0200, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html K-5, DA21mm, 1/320s, f/7.1, ISO200 Excellent - with a very imaginative title. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Mr Ms Finch
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 21:25 +0200, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: A sunny sunday and nice weather. A400/5.6 playtime: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/176 A nice duo. Mr Finch (or whatever he is!) is the most appealing - beautifully outlined against the sky. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Balconies
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:18 -0700, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Another from Paris. I love the combination of stone facades, wrought iron balconies, and flowers. Me too and the framing here is excellent. I like the wisps of smoke in the sky too. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12868902size=lg (K7, DA 50-200) Rick -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fishing...
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:25 +0300, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: ... really! http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12879576size=md I get my frozen fish at the supermarket Thanks for posting - that's a scene I'm never likely to see in my part of the world. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Beating you to a bloody pulp with floral cliches
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:59 -0700, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: Not only are they flower close-ups from the bokeh-crazed recent buyer of a 100mm macro, they have raindrops! And insects! http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbray/sets/72157626397375736/show/ All rhodos camellias because that's all that's out. -Tim Well - if they're cliches -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Beating you to a bloody pulp with floral cliches
Hit 'send' too quickly What I meant to say was if they're clichés, then a lot of my photography is clichéd. I really like nos 5, 6 and 7. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:59 -0700, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: Not only are they flower close-ups from the bokeh-crazed recent buyer of a 100mm macro, they have raindrops! And insects! http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbray/sets/72157626397375736/show/ All rhodos camellias because that's all that's out. -Tim -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Jostein's gallery
Late on this, but - a great gallery , with my favourites - #19 particularly, superb light, 38 and 39 as well John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Hasselblad lenses on Pentax DSLRs
As a chronic, incurable impulse-buyer, I bought a used Hasselblad to K-mount adapter without thinking much about its use. Now it is about to arrive and I find it difficult to find a good project where I can use the adapter for something I cannot possibly achieve with my Pentax stuff. Please don't tell me that I am on the wrong list ;) Bulent - http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2011
I registered. I hope I can go. Cory On 4/1/2011 12:33 AM, Theodore Beilby wrote: OK, so I got my registration in for this years GFM Nature Photography Weekend. Who else? Hope somebody is going to come. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hasselblad lenses on Pentax DSLRs
I suspect you'll like the results from the Zeiss 80mm. Would be a perfect portrait lens. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Life becomes interesting for vegans
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Re: OT: Life becomes interesting for vegans
how so? you mean their boneless rubber chickens may no longer be vegan? 2011/4/1 Bob W p...@web-options.com: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12904777 B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Life becomes interesting for vegans
vegans won't be able to use plastics made from feathers. This may not be easy to identify. B how so? you mean their boneless rubber chickens may no longer be vegan? 2011/4/1 Bob W p...@web-options.com: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12904777 B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: More films going the way of the dodo ?
The bottom line is that more films *are* going the way of the dodo and we can expect that to continue. My friends at the George Eastman House get their information straight from Kodak and when I was there for the platinum print workshop last fall they were lamenting about the film discontinuations to come. What's happening is that Kodak now loses money on still photography film: The only thing keeping them in the film business is the motion picture industry. (This is exactly the reverse of the situation years ago, when the consumer film side of their business supported the motion picture film side.) When the movie industry goes to electronic distribution - and they're working hard on it - is when the axe will really come down hard on film. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hasselblad lenses on Pentax DSLRs
I think you should have bought the adapter to fit Pentax glass on a Hasselblad body. They you could have bought that $29000 digital body and got a real bargain on the old K and M stuff from KEH. I feel your pain. I am constantly tempted to fit some Leica glass on the E-P1. Down that road lies bankruptcy. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: I suspect you'll like the results from the Zeiss 80mm. Would be a perfect portrait lens. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
I like looking at pretty women. How cliche. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
Look at it this way. Every year people plant flowers in their yard because they enjoy seeing the flowers. Cliche implies a tiredness with something familiar, and some things never get tired. I laughed at Bill's comment about pretty women, but it's actually a perfect example. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I like looking at pretty women. How cliche. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Life becomes interesting for vegans
I can see it now. All the health food stores will be advertising 100% all natural vegan polyethylene. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: vegans won't be able to use plastics made from feathers. This may not be easy to identify. B how so? you mean their boneless rubber chickens may no longer be vegan? 2011/4/1 Bob W p...@web-options.com: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12904777 B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: More films going the way of the dodo ?
The bottom line is that more films *are* going the way of the dodo and we can expect that to continue. My friends at the George Eastman House get their information straight from Kodak and when I was there for the platinum print workshop last fall they were lamenting about the film discontinuations to come. What's happening is that Kodak now loses money on still photography film: The only thing keeping them in the film business is the motion picture industry. (This is exactly the reverse of the situation years ago, when the consumer film side of their business supported the motion picture film side.) When the movie industry goes to electronic distribution - and they're working hard on it - is when the axe will really come down hard on film. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com A couple of years ago we went to a movie @ the local Rave theater. They used DLP projectors. The display was so jerky that it gave the wife a headache and I found it downright unappealing. But 2 weeks ago we went there to see The Adjustment Bureau and their new digital projectors are not so objectionable. Smooth frame transitions and thus no headaches or other ill effects. Pleasant. The new gen of projectors is quite nice and that leave film only for shooting editing, after which all else is digital. I expect that within 5 years all theaters will have some new digital projector. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2011
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Theodore Beilby tbei...@sbcglobal.net wrote: OK, so I got my registration in for this years GFM Nature Photography Weekend. Who else? Hope somebody is going to come. Not in the cards this year. :-( Sad to be missing it. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW week 12 catch-up
Thanks, Brian. I have flirted with the idea for a picture a day for next year--flirted with the idea, mind you! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 2:13 AM Subject: Re: PAW week 12 catch-up On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:51 -0500, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm at week 12, but didn't post weeks 9, 10, 11, 12 to the list. Not great stuff, but despite being sick, I kept up. I did try for the Perigee-Super-Moon (week 11). Darrel I went to Montrose Beach area. The shots are really more landscapey than moony. Nothing great, but I was there for the try :-). Just posting for the record. I'm glad I'm doing this, but it's not easy. Sometimes come Saturday I haven't taken a shot, and I start thinking about some new pose I can try to get Darrel to agree to. I actually might try for a self-portrait for next week--if nothing interesting finds its way into my camera. Cheers, Christine http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/ You think a picture-a-week is difficult. My son has set himself a picture-a-day project. I'm glad it's him and not me! - although he is using an iPhone for the project so that probably makes things a bit more achievable. I really like the flag shot - the whole scene has a wonderful sense of grunge. 'The Sun' is nicely done too. Keep it up!! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5
Hi Larry: My back up battery for the k7 is fully charged ready for use upon arrival of the k-5! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 12:39 AM Subject: Re: K-5 On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Not to worry, Jack. I shall be at my stated shipping address all day tomorrow! Cheers, Christine Remember, put the battery in the charger as soon as it shows up. The first charge on the battery takes about a week and a half. Unless you know someone you can borrow a fully charged battery from. - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:14 PM Subject: Re: Re: K-5 Better stay home all day rather than chance missing the UPS truck. ;)) I would!! Jack --- On Thu, 3/31/11, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Re: K-5 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 5:19 PM I should be getting my K-5 tomorrow! cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Jens p...@planfoto.dk To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Re: K-5 The K-5 feels almost as good in my hand as my MZ-S True! The MZ-S is ergonomically awesome. When walking with it, I can hold it in just three fingers (no thumb) - it's just sort of hangin' there. No other camera ever felt that good in my hands. But the K-5 i getting there - not bad at all. Regards Jens Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Mar 29, 2011 05:50 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Can't wait to see the pics, Paul! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:34 PM Subject: Re: K-5 It's a sweet camera. The UPS guy brought mine to the door about 1:30 Friday. Had a prior commitment for the weekend so I've just been going at the manual a little at a time. Hope to get out tomorrow to give it a real try. The K-5 feels almost as good in my hand as my MZ-S. BH is discounting their second day air shipping to less than $10 and I discovered my credit card has a 60 day low price guarantee so I figured now was as good a time as any to get one. -p On 3/27/2011 11:11 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: Jens p...@planfoto.dk To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:05 PM Subject: K-5 Man, I love my K-5 already. Nicest Pentax in a long time. I may be getting one of those soon. Just might do it. Cheers, Christine -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2011
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Theodore Beilby tbei...@sbcglobal.net wrote: OK, so I got my registration in for this years GFM Nature Photography Weekend. Who else? Hope somebody is going to come. Want to, but Dave Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Yvon Bourque's K-5 e-book review
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I don't think that the $15 I spent on it was wasted, but the book would be far more appropriate for most of the people on, for example, the DPR pentax SLR forum, than the PDML. I join the sky is falling forums in 2007, and back then he had a book out on the k-10. There was a lot of flake on it as just a re sampled Pentax manual. I know i bought one of Moose Petterson's books on the D2H when i was having all sorts of trouble setting that camera up. It was just a reworded version of the manual. No help at all. Dave -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Fishing at Mussleman lake
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: That empty chair makes me giggle, Dave! Cheers, Christine Thanks Dave - Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:49 AM Subject: Peso Fishing at Mussleman lake http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12867906 Taken last Saturday. We make the most of ice.:-) Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Regarding the house and mail box shots
I found the article written in 2009.: http://www.stouffvilleonline.com/sfp/2009/06/rear-view-mirror/ Just a little local history on the house. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2011
Ted, Lynn I are registered as of last night. Cory, I hope you can get away for that weekend. We are looking forward to the trip from Chicago. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Theodore Beilby tbei...@sbcglobal.net wrote: OK, so I got my registration in for this years GFM Nature Photography Weekend. Who else? Hope somebody is going to come. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Balconies
Rick, I've looked at these Balconies several times and have a problem. At this time of day, the left building seems to throw a shadow on the other in the lower left center. My eye is drawn there as I try to resolve what is going on in those shadows. I wish it was a clear picture of more balconies. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:18 -0700, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Another from Paris. I love the combination of stone facades, wrought iron balconies, and flowers. Me too and the framing here is excellent. I like the wisps of smoke in the sky too. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12868902size=lg (K7, DA 50-200) Rick -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Balconies
Ah, well. Shadows are one of the problems of golden hour light. Wider framing included more distractions but not many more balconies. That was also just about the only sun I saw in eight days in Paris. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Fri, 4/1/11, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO - Balconies To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 10:07 AM Rick, I've looked at these Balconies several times and have a problem. At this time of day, the left building seems to throw a shadow on the other in the lower left center. My eye is drawn there as I try to resolve what is going on in those shadows. I wish it was a clear picture of more balconies. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:18 -0700, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Another from Paris. I love the combination of stone facades, wrought iron balconies, and flowers. Me too and the framing here is excellent. I like the wisps of smoke in the sky too. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12868902size=lg (K7, DA 50-200) Rick -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 back on the wish list......
Just got the fee for a photoclass, and another coming up soon. So there might be one in my horizon too. I just have to figure out what to do with a gigantic electricity bill first. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2011/3/31 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Woo Hoo! I should have added an I hope so, just in case:-) Dave On Mar 31, 2011, at 10:35 AM, David J Brooks wrote: .. because only had to replace the water pump and intake, not the head gasket. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
My job (pediatric oncologist) shows me lots of the pain and unfairness in life, and the ugliness of the world is constantly on display in the news. Photography helps me to slow down, and to look for and see the beauty in life and the world. I made about 1400 exposures during my trip to Paris, and have posted fewer than 50 pix here. That's about my usual ratio. I post the ones I like, and it's always interesting to see how others respond to them. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Thu, 3/31/11, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: From: Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net Subject: Why do you shoot? To: pdml pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 1:39 PM Tim just gave us some pretty macro flower pics. A lot of people will like them. I enjoy them as well and even really liked a couple. But as someone said a couple of weeks ago, the more seriously he takes his photography the less he shoots. The question is: How do we better our photography and get past cliche images? Can we take it more seriously without falling into either the trap of elitism or the trap of demanding a certain level of commitment from others? (That's the motivation behind my recent technical criticisms. We can do better without burning ourselves out.) I think about the retirement home with little old ladies taking oil paint lessons so that they can do still life paintings of daisies. I wonder how many of us have nothing better in our imagination than warm fuzzies. And I think Tim senses some of this with the sarcasm in his title about beating us to a bloody pulp with these cliche images. In 2D art one can hardly get more cliche than pretty flowers. So the challenge is this: Make a picture say something. Make it say one word That is, other than Ah or Ooo. A real word. High. Long. Fast. Friend. Love. Charity. Cold. Hot. Soft. Hard. Tomorrow. Yesterday. Win. Lose. Amateur. Professional. Try. Succeed. Fail. Return. Leave. Strong. Weak. Majesty. Humility. Service. Nouns, pronouns, adjectives, adverbs -- they all work. This can help you when you take pictures at kids baseball games or at a wedding. Capture more than just the people. Get their faces, their hands, their interactions with each other and the world around them, their full expressions. That's what makes the Ali(Wasn't he still C. Clay at the time) v Liston picture so special. http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/sports-products/muhammad-ali-framed-8x10-photo---ali-over-sonny-liston.html Sorry about the rant, but cliche images bother me deeply. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Balconies
Rick, Not that I didn't like the picture! And that 'golden hour' light is very attractive. You'll have to go back to Paris and catch this scene in the opposite 'golden hour' so the shadows disappear. :-) (I really hate criticizing friend's pictures, but you're a full grown adult, and I thought you might like to know.) Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Ah, well. Shadows are one of the problems of golden hour light. Wider framing included more distractions but not many more balconies. That was also just about the only sun I saw in eight days in Paris. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Fri, 4/1/11, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO - Balconies To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 10:07 AM Rick, I've looked at these Balconies several times and have a problem. At this time of day, the left building seems to throw a shadow on the other in the lower left center. My eye is drawn there as I try to resolve what is going on in those shadows. I wish it was a clear picture of more balconies. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:18 -0700, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Another from Paris. I love the combination of stone facades, wrought iron balconies, and flowers. Me too and the framing here is excellent. I like the wisps of smoke in the sky too. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12868902size=lg (K7, DA 50-200) Rick -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Friends in high places
You need reservations, I thought it was open seating... On 3/27/2011 3:53 PM, Cotty wrote: On 27/3/11, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm not usually in the mood to argue religion. I believe you cannot prove that god does/does not exist, and that the only way to find out what happens after you die is to die. But some people can't take a hint. When they get in my face about whether I've been saved, I tell 'em it ain't none of their business quote Matthew 6:5-6. Makes most of them go away. Some require a slightly more vigorous hint. I just shown them my reservation in Hell! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Balconies
Bob, I actually appreciate your comments very much. I'd like to see more such friendly constructive criticism on the list. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Fri, 4/1/11, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Rick, Not that I didn't like the picture! And that 'golden hour' light is very attractive. You'll have to go back to Paris and catch this scene in the opposite 'golden hour' so the shadows disappear. :-) (I really hate criticizing friend's pictures, but you're a full grown adult, and I thought you might like to know.) Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Ah, well. Shadows are one of the problems of golden hour light. Wider framing included more distractions but not many more balconies. That was also just about the only sun I saw in eight days in Paris. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Fri, 4/1/11, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO - Balconies To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 10:07 AM Rick, I've looked at these Balconies several times and have a problem. At this time of day, the left building seems to throw a shadow on the other in the lower left center. My eye is drawn there as I try to resolve what is going on in those shadows. I wish it was a clear picture of more balconies. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:18 -0700, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Another from Paris. I love the combination of stone facades, wrought iron balconies, and flowers. Me too and the framing here is excellent. I like the wisps of smoke in the sky too. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12868902size=lg (K7, DA 50-200) Rick -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
Photography, paintings, music, and the arts in general offer us a way to move away from the uglyness in our everyday lives to something more attractive. I don't mind seeing pretty cliches or seeing the joy in Paul's grandaughter's eyes. It's a wonderful thing to share. I remember Monet's many haystack paintings. If an 'old master' can tackle the same subject again and again, who am I to say no to trying to shoot spring again this season. And the pdml and it's members can be devious. Shooting side-by-side with others can show you just how good your work could be. It can inspire you to greater care and taking your effort to the next level. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: My job (pediatric oncologist) shows me lots of the pain and unfairness in life, and the ugliness of the world is constantly on display in the news. Photography helps me to slow down, and to look for and see the beauty in life and the world. I made about 1400 exposures during my trip to Paris, and have posted fewer than 50 pix here. That's about my usual ratio. I post the ones I like, and it's always interesting to see how others respond to them. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Thu, 3/31/11, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: From: Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net Subject: Why do you shoot? To: pdml pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 1:39 PM Tim just gave us some pretty macro flower pics. A lot of people will like them. I enjoy them as well and even really liked a couple. But as someone said a couple of weeks ago, the more seriously he takes his photography the less he shoots. The question is: How do we better our photography and get past cliche images? Can we take it more seriously without falling into either the trap of elitism or the trap of demanding a certain level of commitment from others? (That's the motivation behind my recent technical criticisms. We can do better without burning ourselves out.) I think about the retirement home with little old ladies taking oil paint lessons so that they can do still life paintings of daisies. I wonder how many of us have nothing better in our imagination than warm fuzzies. And I think Tim senses some of this with the sarcasm in his title about beating us to a bloody pulp with these cliche images. In 2D art one can hardly get more cliche than pretty flowers. So the challenge is this: Make a picture say something. Make it say one word That is, other than Ah or Ooo. A real word. High. Long. Fast. Friend. Love. Charity. Cold. Hot. Soft. Hard. Tomorrow. Yesterday. Win. Lose. Amateur. Professional. Try. Succeed. Fail. Return. Leave. Strong. Weak. Majesty. Humility. Service. Nouns, pronouns, adjectives, adverbs -- they all work. This can help you when you take pictures at kids baseball games or at a wedding. Capture more than just the people. Get their faces, their hands, their interactions with each other and the world around them, their full expressions. That's what makes the Ali(Wasn't he still C. Clay at the time) v Liston picture so special. http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/sports-products/muhammad-ali-framed-8x10-photo---ali-over-sonny-liston.html Sorry about the rant, but cliche images bother me deeply. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5
Christine, I thought the K-7 battery was just a little different in shape from the K-5's. You're gonna like that camera! :-) Meanwhile, back to the eagle cam in Decora, IA... http://www.ustream.tv/decoraheagles Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Larry: My back up battery for the k7 is fully charged ready for use upon arrival of the k-5! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 12:39 AM Subject: Re: K-5 On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Not to worry, Jack. I shall be at my stated shipping address all day tomorrow! Cheers, Christine Remember, put the battery in the charger as soon as it shows up. The first charge on the battery takes about a week and a half. Unless you know someone you can borrow a fully charged battery from. - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:14 PM Subject: Re: Re: K-5 Better stay home all day rather than chance missing the UPS truck. ;)) I would!! Jack --- On Thu, 3/31/11, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Re: K-5 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 5:19 PM I should be getting my K-5 tomorrow! cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Jens p...@planfoto.dk To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Re: K-5 The K-5 feels almost as good in my hand as my MZ-S True! The MZ-S is ergonomically awesome. When walking with it, I can hold it in just three fingers (no thumb) - it's just sort of hangin' there. No other camera ever felt that good in my hands. But the K-5 i getting there - not bad at all. Regards Jens Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Mar 29, 2011 05:50 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Can't wait to see the pics, Paul! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:34 PM Subject: Re: K-5 It's a sweet camera. The UPS guy brought mine to the door about 1:30 Friday. Had a prior commitment for the weekend so I've just been going at the manual a little at a time. Hope to get out tomorrow to give it a real try. The K-5 feels almost as good in my hand as my MZ-S. BH is discounting their second day air shipping to less than $10 and I discovered my credit card has a 60 day low price guarantee so I figured now was as good a time as any to get one. -p On 3/27/2011 11:11 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: Jens p...@planfoto.dk To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:05 PM Subject: K-5 Man, I love my K-5 already. Nicest Pentax in a long time. I may be getting one of those soon. Just might do it. Cheers, Christine -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML
Re: More films going the way of the dodo ?
You could well be buying the real thing. Kodak, which in the past was loath to sell their films in off brands, is now apparently packaging some of their films for other brands. I think ARISTA Premium 400 was re-branded TRI-X a couple of years ago. The exposure and development times seemed to be identical. That might be true today, and at 1/2 the cost of Tri-X, (Freestyle Photo), a bargain. On 3/31/2011 7:23 PM, John Graves wrote: BUT: I have rediscovered film and much to my surprise, I can get what appears to be a close clone of Plus-X and Tri-x at a better price. I think I have to dig out my older pentaxes and give this a try. Also Kentmere has a bargain ASA 100 400 film that is getting some good reviews. As I get older this urge to return gets stronger. John Graves WA1JG jh.gra...@verizon.net On 3/15/2011 5:32 PM, Thibouille wrote: Maybe someone could check if he has insider informations ? My reseller told me that although not official yet, Fuji is stopping Neopan 400/1600 (100 still around for now). Fuji APS-C (ouch, I meant APS) film is dead. Kodak still left with APS but at about 10 euros per film (!!) (or was that the opposite?). Almost all slides film is going dodo as well. If anyone needs such film, it may be a good idea to grab a bunch of'em. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5
On Apr 1, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Christine, I thought the K-7 battery was just a little different in shape from the K-5's. They're identical. You're gonna like that camera! :-) Meanwhile, back to the eagle cam in Decora, IA... http://www.ustream.tv/decoraheagles Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Larry: My back up battery for the k7 is fully charged ready for use upon arrival of the k-5! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 12:39 AM Subject: Re: K-5 On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Not to worry, Jack. I shall be at my stated shipping address all day tomorrow! Cheers, Christine Remember, put the battery in the charger as soon as it shows up. The first charge on the battery takes about a week and a half. Unless you know someone you can borrow a fully charged battery from. - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:14 PM Subject: Re: Re: K-5 Better stay home all day rather than chance missing the UPS truck. ;)) I would!! Jack --- On Thu, 3/31/11, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Re: K-5 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 5:19 PM I should be getting my K-5 tomorrow! cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Jens p...@planfoto.dk To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Re: K-5 The K-5 feels almost as good in my hand as my MZ-S True! The MZ-S is ergonomically awesome. When walking with it, I can hold it in just three fingers (no thumb) - it's just sort of hangin' there. No other camera ever felt that good in my hands. But the K-5 i getting there - not bad at all. Regards Jens Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Mar 29, 2011 05:50 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Can't wait to see the pics, Paul! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:34 PM Subject: Re: K-5 It's a sweet camera. The UPS guy brought mine to the door about 1:30 Friday. Had a prior commitment for the weekend so I've just been going at the manual a little at a time. Hope to get out tomorrow to give it a real try. The K-5 feels almost as good in my hand as my MZ-S. BH is discounting their second day air shipping to less than $10 and I discovered my credit card has a 60 day low price guarantee so I figured now was as good a time as any to get one. -p On 3/27/2011 11:11 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: Jens p...@planfoto.dk To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:05 PM Subject: K-5 Man, I love my K-5 already. Nicest Pentax in a long time. I may be getting one of those soon. Just might do it. Cheers, Christine -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the
Re: K-5
Thanks Paul, I'll have to give th K-7's battery a try in the K-5 !! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 1, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Christine, I thought the K-7 battery was just a little different in shape from the K-5's. They're identical. You're gonna like that camera! :-) Meanwhile, back to the eagle cam in Decora, IA... http://www.ustream.tv/decoraheagles Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Larry: My back up battery for the k7 is fully charged ready for use upon arrival of the k-5! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 12:39 AM Subject: Re: K-5 On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Not to worry, Jack. I shall be at my stated shipping address all day tomorrow! Cheers, Christine Remember, put the battery in the charger as soon as it shows up. The first charge on the battery takes about a week and a half. Unless you know someone you can borrow a fully charged battery from. - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:14 PM Subject: Re: Re: K-5 Better stay home all day rather than chance missing the UPS truck. ;)) I would!! Jack --- On Thu, 3/31/11, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Re: K-5 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 5:19 PM I should be getting my K-5 tomorrow! cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Jens p...@planfoto.dk To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Re: K-5 The K-5 feels almost as good in my hand as my MZ-S True! The MZ-S is ergonomically awesome. When walking with it, I can hold it in just three fingers (no thumb) - it's just sort of hangin' there. No other camera ever felt that good in my hands. But the K-5 i getting there - not bad at all. Regards Jens Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Mar 29, 2011 05:50 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Can't wait to see the pics, Paul! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:34 PM Subject: Re: K-5 It's a sweet camera. The UPS guy brought mine to the door about 1:30 Friday. Had a prior commitment for the weekend so I've just been going at the manual a little at a time. Hope to get out tomorrow to give it a real try. The K-5 feels almost as good in my hand as my MZ-S. BH is discounting their second day air shipping to less than $10 and I discovered my credit card has a 60 day low price guarantee so I figured now was as good a time as any to get one. -p On 3/27/2011 11:11 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: Jens p...@planfoto.dk To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:05 PM Subject: K-5 Man, I love my K-5 already. Nicest Pentax in a long time. I may be getting one of those soon. Just might do it. Cheers, Christine -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
RE: Regarding the house and mail box shots
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David J Brooks I found the article written in 2009.: http://www.stouffvilleonline.com/sfp/2009/06/rear-view-mirror/ Just a little local history on the house. the author's mindset is as old as the house: Gentlemen, how would your marriage be if you moved your wife, in 1988, to a home without electricity and water? Well I guess she could at least have phoned her mother to complain. ! B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
Ditto again!! -p On 3/31/2011 9:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net There's one thing I never do. I never consider whether or not someone else might consider my choice of subject matter to be cliched. I don't give a damn if they do. Hear, hear! Cheers, Christine Ditto ann -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
Photographically, I am still struggling to rise to the level of cliche. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
Mark! --- On Fri, 4/1/11, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Photographically, I am still struggling to rise to the level of cliche. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2011
Just checked and it is now sold out. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
Thanks to Collin for launching this... but am still totally gonna still-life some defenseless daisies. Having said that, I was talking this over with a friend yesterday, and realized that I do have one hidden agenda. It makes me especially happy when I can publish a photo that surprises people. Something they've never seen before, nor would have imagined. I admire people like KnarFrank who have a style and idiom and excel within it, but I couldn't do that in a million years. -T On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Mark! --- On Fri, 4/1/11, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Photographically, I am still struggling to rise to the level of cliche. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Chapeau
Hi all, Just wanted to share a shot I managed to capture while I was at the Olympic Club in San Francisco -- probably my favorite shot of the night. I was given permission by the folks hosting the event, as well as the subject, to share it. Non-lightbox version http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/ Lightbox version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/#/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/lightbox/ K-x, DA L 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 3200, 1/30, Aperture Priority Comments, critiques, and abusive harangues encouraged. Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Regarding the house and mail box shots
Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David J Brooks I found the article written in 2009.: http://www.stouffvilleonline.com/sfp/2009/06/rear-view-mirror/ Just a little local history on the house. the author's mindset is as old as the house: Gentlemen, how would your marriage be if you moved your wife, in 1988, to a home without electricity and water? Well I guess she could at least have phoned her mother to complain. Only until her cell phone batteries ran out! ;-) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2011
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Ted, Lynn I are registered as of last night. Cory, I hope you can get away for that weekend. We are looking forward to the trip from Chicago. Regards, Bob S. So, who is bringing Cotty's phone number this year.?? Dave On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Theodore Beilby tbei...@sbcglobal.net wrote: OK, so I got my registration in for this years GFM Nature Photography Weekend. Who else? Hope somebody is going to come. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
I also thank Collin for the thought-provoking post. I think we know what you mean by cliche images but I disagree with the concept entirely. I think what you call cliche images might more readily be called obvious beauty. Sunsets, flowers, cute babies, etc. They are likely subjects that we all notice and want to capture. They are almost empirically beautiful and it may be hard not to be attracted to photograph them. However, there is a difference between noticing obvious beauty and capturing it well. Frankly, I think that if we are going to condemn artists for capturing obvious beauty, then we probably need to condemn Ansel Adams for taking another damn photo of a mountain (or other landscape) or stone Georgia O'Keefe for choosing to do a painting of yet another damn flower. I think that is silly. You could spend your whole life just getting better at photographing one genre of obvious beauty, if you chose to do so. Now where I think Collin provides some inspiration and food for thought is in challenging us to extend our vision beyond obvious beauty, or perhaps leaving beauty altogether. One way that I like to challenge my eye is to go somewhere without obvious beauty and then try to find some by working only with the lines, shapes and colors that are there. Collin's theme suggestion is another good way to stretch one's eye/vision/execution. That would be my spin on Collin's word: Take out cliche images and replace it with obvious beauty and allow people to start there or stay there, if they so choose - but also consider growing/expanding your subjects. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5
On Apr 1, 2011, at 8:50 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Thanks Paul, I'll have to give th K-7's battery a try in the K-5 !! D-Li90 They both use the DBG4 battery grip, one would expect that they'd both use batteries that were compatible with it. 30 years ago, I was a member of the Sprite Midget Owners Group (car club, not short fairies). One of the members had gone to the UK on business and while he was there had gone to great lengths to obtain a right hand drive steering rack and bring it home on the plane. He had done this just before the club had a progressive party, where they drove from house to house of the different members. He was showing it off at one member's house, who looked at it, wandered off into the garage and came back a few minutes later with another one that was identical. It turns out that the Sprite and the Morris Minor used the same steering rack, it was just flipped upside down from one to the other, so a RHD sprite rack was the same as a LHD morris minor rack. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 1, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Christine, I thought the K-7 battery was just a little different in shape from the K-5's. They're identical. You're gonna like that camera! :-) Meanwhile, back to the eagle cam in Decora, IA... http://www.ustream.tv/decoraheagles Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Larry: My back up battery for the k7 is fully charged ready for use upon arrival of the k-5! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 12:39 AM Subject: Re: K-5 On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Not to worry, Jack. I shall be at my stated shipping address all day tomorrow! Cheers, Christine Remember, put the battery in the charger as soon as it shows up. The first charge on the battery takes about a week and a half. Unless you know someone you can borrow a fully charged battery from. - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:14 PM Subject: Re: Re: K-5 Better stay home all day rather than chance missing the UPS truck. ;)) I would!! Jack --- On Thu, 3/31/11, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Re: K-5 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 5:19 PM I should be getting my K-5 tomorrow! cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Jens p...@planfoto.dk To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Re: K-5 The K-5 feels almost as good in my hand as my MZ-S True! The MZ-S is ergonomically awesome. When walking with it, I can hold it in just three fingers (no thumb) - it's just sort of hangin' there. No other camera ever felt that good in my hands. But the K-5 i getting there - not bad at all. Regards Jens Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Mar 29, 2011 05:50 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Can't wait to see the pics, Paul! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:34 PM Subject: Re: K-5 It's a sweet camera. The UPS guy brought mine to the door about 1:30 Friday. Had a prior commitment for the weekend so I've just been going at the manual a little at a time. Hope to get out tomorrow to give it a real try. The K-5 feels almost as good in my hand as my MZ-S. BH is discounting their second day air shipping to less than $10 and I discovered my credit card has a 60 day low price guarantee so I figured now was as good a time as any to get one. -p On 3/27/2011 11:11 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: Jens p...@planfoto.dk To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:05 PM Subject: K-5 Man, I love my K-5 already. Nicest Pentax in a long time. I may be getting one of those soon. Just might do it. Cheers, Christine -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to
Re: PESO: Chapeau
On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share a shot I managed to capture while I was at the Olympic Club in San Francisco -- probably my favorite shot of the night. I was given permission by the folks hosting the event, as well as the subject, to share it. Nice shot of a lovely subject. Was that your hostess? Non-lightbox version http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/ Lightbox version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/#/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/lightbox/ K-x, DA L 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 3200, 1/30, Aperture Priority Comments, critiques, and abusive harangues encouraged. Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2011
I wanted to, but my photography budget right now is small and reserved for an impending purchase into a mirrorless system. You read that correctly: I prefer spending my money on new camera equipment rather than on travelling to places worth photographing. You may flame me if it makes you feel better; I understand. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 1 April 2011 00:33, Theodore Beilby tbei...@sbcglobal.net wrote: OK, so I got my registration in for this years GFM Nature Photography Weekend. Who else? Hope somebody is going to come. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Damned customs - F 85 Soft
One of my new acquisitions - the F 85 soft - is held hostage in customs now. Damn those heartless bastards. I know it's their job but still.. will end up costing me way more than I ever wanted to pay for it. Any comments on it while I wait with my wallet open? kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Chapeau
On 4/1/2011 1:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share a shot I managed to capture while I was at the Olympic Club in San Francisco -- probably my favorite shot of the night. I was given permission by the folks hosting the event, as well as the subject, to share it. Nice shot of a lovely subject. Was that your hostess? Thanks, Larry! That's actually my hostess's personal assistant, Robyn. And, yes -- she was quite fetching that night. Did you happen to notice the ISO on that shot? Gawd, I love my K-x, and can't imagine what a K-r or K-5 would've done in the same conditions. -- Walt Non-lightbox version http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/ Lightbox version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/#/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/lightbox/ K-x, DA L 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 3200, 1/30, Aperture Priority Comments, critiques, and abusive harangues encouraged. Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
Thanks to Collin for launching this... but am still totally gonna still-life some defenseless daisies. Go ahead. Put 'em out of their misery! :-) Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft
I've never managed to get anything by them... have you? 2011/4/1 Krisjanis Linkevics krisjanis.linkev...@exigenservices.com: One of my new acquisitions - the F 85 soft - is held hostage in customs now. Damn those heartless bastards. I know it's their job but still.. will end up costing me way more than I ever wanted to pay for it. Any comments on it while I wait with my wallet open? kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Damned customs - F 85 Soft
I've never managed to get anything by them... have you? Every once in a while. TNT and DHL always cause serious problems, EMS that isn't routed through any of those usually passes through as if nobody cares. The main problem I have with them (TNT/DHL) is that it takes so much time, additional costs and babysitting to get your package through them that the higher shipping costs they want for their service are ridiculous. This one is being processed by TNT, if I were to try and pick it up from customs myself I would spend around 6h on a workday+driving all over the city. They are supposed to deliver to my door but on items that they have given to the customs they do that only if I pay extra. kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Balconies
I'll take the 'golden light' over shadows most of the time - Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: PESO - Balconies Ah, well. Shadows are one of the problems of golden hour light. Wider framing included more distractions but not many more balconies. That was also just about the only sun I saw in eight days in Paris. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Fri, 4/1/11, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO - Balconies To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 10:07 AM Rick, I've looked at these Balconies several times and have a problem. At this time of day, the left building seems to throw a shadow on the other in the lower left center. My eye is drawn there as I try to resolve what is going on in those shadows. I wish it was a clear picture of more balconies. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:18 -0700, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Another from Paris. I love the combination of stone facades, wrought iron balconies, and flowers. Me too and the framing here is excellent. I like the wisps of smoke in the sky too. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12868902size=lg (K7, DA 50-200) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS: heresy
non-Pentax stuff http://shop.ebay.com/dpconsult.com/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
Well said, Darren! Several years ago, the owner a local gallery in which I had a number of images hanging, ordered (with a smile) me to quit being so damned artsy and shoot a sunset. Told him I've always considered sunsets a cheap shot and I was beyond cliches. One evening I ran into one that I took the time to shoot. I've always felt it acceptable to sign and hang in a retail display and it's out sold any other picture. It's now the background image for an ale bottled in Northern California. The brewery owner is prepared to buy exclusive rights to that image as well as a couple of others sometime later. It's not all about $$, but, as I stated above, I'm esthetically pleased with the image. In every case it's all about the total setting and lighting. Jack --- On Fri, 4/1/11, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Why do you shoot? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 11:12 AM I also thank Collin for the thought-provoking post. I think we know what you mean by cliche images but I disagree with the concept entirely. I think what you call cliche images might more readily be called obvious beauty. Sunsets, flowers, cute babies, etc. They are likely subjects that we all notice and want to capture. They are almost empirically beautiful and it may be hard not to be attracted to photograph them. However, there is a difference between noticing obvious beauty and capturing it well. Frankly, I think that if we are going to condemn artists for capturing obvious beauty, then we probably need to condemn Ansel Adams for taking another damn photo of a mountain (or other landscape) or stone Georgia O'Keefe for choosing to do a painting of yet another damn flower. I think that is silly. You could spend your whole life just getting better at photographing one genre of obvious beauty, if you chose to do so. Now where I think Collin provides some inspiration and food for thought is in challenging us to extend our vision beyond obvious beauty, or perhaps leaving beauty altogether. One way that I like to challenge my eye is to go somewhere without obvious beauty and then try to find some by working only with the lines, shapes and colors that are there. Collin's theme suggestion is another good way to stretch one's eye/vision/execution. That would be my spin on Collin's word: Take out cliche images and replace it with obvious beauty and allow people to start there or stay there, if they so choose - but also consider growing/expanding your subjects. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2011
I prefer spending my money on new camera equipment rather than on travelling to places worth photographing. Sounds like a MARK to me. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com Subject: Re: GFM 2011 I wanted to, but my photography budget right now is small and reserved for an impending purchase into a mirrorless system. You read that correctly: I prefer spending my money on new camera equipment rather than on travelling to places worth photographing. You may flame me if it makes you feel better; I understand. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 1 April 2011 00:33, Theodore Beilby tbei...@sbcglobal.net wrote: OK, so I got my registration in for this years GFM Nature Photography Weekend. Who else? Hope somebody is going to come. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
The moral of the story is cliche sells ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Why do you shoot? Well said, Darren! Several years ago, the owner a local gallery in which I had a number of images hanging, ordered (with a smile) me to quit being so damned artsy and shoot a sunset. Told him I've always considered sunsets a cheap shot and I was beyond cliches. One evening I ran into one that I took the time to shoot. I've always felt it acceptable to sign and hang in a retail display and it's out sold any other picture. It's now the background image for an ale bottled in Northern California. The brewery owner is prepared to buy exclusive rights to that image as well as a couple of others sometime later. It's not all about $$, but, as I stated above, I'm esthetically pleased with the image. In every case it's all about the total setting and lighting. Jack --- On Fri, 4/1/11, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Why do you shoot? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 11:12 AM I also thank Collin for the thought-provoking post. I think we know what you mean by cliche images but I disagree with the concept entirely. I think what you call cliche images might more readily be called obvious beauty. Sunsets, flowers, cute babies, etc. They are likely subjects that we all notice and want to capture. They are almost empirically beautiful and it may be hard not to be attracted to photograph them. However, there is a difference between noticing obvious beauty and capturing it well. Frankly, I think that if we are going to condemn artists for capturing obvious beauty, then we probably need to condemn Ansel Adams for taking another damn photo of a mountain (or other landscape) or stone Georgia O'Keefe for choosing to do a painting of yet another damn flower. I think that is silly. You could spend your whole life just getting better at photographing one genre of obvious beauty, if you chose to do so. Now where I think Collin provides some inspiration and food for thought is in challenging us to extend our vision beyond obvious beauty, or perhaps leaving beauty altogether. One way that I like to challenge my eye is to go somewhere without obvious beauty and then try to find some by working only with the lines, shapes and colors that are there. Collin's theme suggestion is another good way to stretch one's eye/vision/execution. That would be my spin on Collin's word: Take out cliche images and replace it with obvious beauty and allow people to start there or stay there, if they so choose - but also consider growing/expanding your subjects. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Regarding the house and mail box shots
Just because you don't have running water and electricity, doesn't mean you don't have a phone. On 4/1/2011 1:37 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David J Brooks I found the article written in 2009.: http://www.stouffvilleonline.com/sfp/2009/06/rear-view-mirror/ Just a little local history on the house. the author's mindset is as old as the house: Gentlemen, how would your marriage be if you moved your wife, in 1988, to a home without electricity and water? Well I guess she could at least have phoned her mother to complain. Only until her cell phone batteries ran out! ;-) -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2011
and we thought you were better than that. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to, but my photography budget right now is small and reserved for an impending purchase into a mirrorless system. You read that correctly: I prefer spending my money on new camera equipment rather than on travelling to places worth photographing. You may flame me if it makes you feel better; I understand. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 1 April 2011 00:33, Theodore Beilby tbei...@sbcglobal.net wrote: OK, so I got my registration in for this years GFM Nature Photography Weekend. Who else? Hope somebody is going to come. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
experimenting with the K-5 at night
As soon as Walt left, the skies cleared and the weather warmed up. I went out last night, looked for the darkest patch of clear sky I could find and stayed up way too late experimenting with the K-5 bracketing ISO, exposure and even lenses to try to find out what combination works best for night time landscape photography. What I learned was that the hills of Bonny Doon (Empire Grade between Jamieson Creek and Lockheed) have too much light pollution, dust and vapor in the air to get good star photos. If your interest is the foreground, it seems that ISO 1600-6400 may be the sweet spot. I processed this one to leave the foreground dark, to show that it is at night (as if the stars aren't enough of a clue) http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5579819441/lightbox/ ISO 3200 FA31 at f/1.8 10 seconds http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5579819441/meta/ Pointing at a slightly darker patch of sky, if the goal is the stars, leaving the foreground dark (or illuminating it in other ways) it seems that ISO 250-500 is the best: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5579893071/in/set-72157626282601669/ This is 4 seconds at ISO 500 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5579893071/meta/ I'm putting my experiments in a flickr collection: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157626282696191/ I've got a set of everything straight out of the camera, and one of all of the shots running lightroom autotone, they're at 400 pixels. I also have sets with other versions of the two pictures I showed. If anyone else is trying nighttime photography with the K-5, I would love to hear what you've learned about sweet spots in various conditions. If you want to try nighttime work, I hope that you find these useful. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Chapeau
On Apr 1, 2011, at 11:49 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: On 4/1/2011 1:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share a shot I managed to capture while I was at the Olympic Club in San Francisco -- probably my favorite shot of the night. I was given permission by the folks hosting the event, as well as the subject, to share it. Nice shot of a lovely subject. Was that your hostess? Thanks, Larry! That's actually my hostess's personal assistant, Robyn. And, yes -- she was quite fetching that night. Isn't that part of the job of a personal assistant? To fetch things? Did you happen to notice the ISO on that shot? Gawd, I love my K-x, and can't imagine what a K-r or K-5 would've done in the same conditions. I hadn't noticed, but ISO 3200 is noticeably, but not dramatically better on the K-r and K-5. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: experimenting with the K-5 at night
I forgot to mention that I learned a few other things about the K-5 last night. When it is doing the noise reduction dark field exposure, it displays a countdown in the viewfinder until the exposure will be done. It may also display a notice about the two second mirror up as well. I've always avoided ball heads for landscape tripod work. Once I find level, it's a pain in the butt to reset it if I lose it, but with the electronic level on the back display, it's trivial to reset, and ball heads are much better for photographing at high angles. When I tried a few shots with the 16-50, I expected them to be darker than at f/1.8, but they were much darker than I expected, especially once the exposure times got higher. I eventually determined that as amazing as the low light sensitivity of the K-5 is, it does not actually work even if you leave the lens cap on. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: heresy
Those Zeiss pre-moisted lens cloths are a disgrace to the brand name. I swear that they are pre-moistened with Pam cooking spray. /mini-rant -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: heresy
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 16:22:23 -0500 From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: FS: heresy Message-ID: BANLkTinanCu=0Qfa1CTTTFJ=vsyctha...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Those Zeiss pre-moisted lens cloths are a disgrace to the brand name. I swear that they are pre-moistened with Pam cooking spray. /mini-rant Yes, but they are good for LCD computer screens. I use them regularly. And on occasion on my vision optics. But never on my camera lenses, though that use is mentioned on the box. I'm just too conservative to try. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2011
On 1 April 2011 16:19, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: and we thought you were better than that. I'm worse, Bob, much worse... —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
On 01/04/2011 6:09 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I like looking at pretty women. How cliche. Some cliches surpass themselves. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
On 01/04/2011 9:10 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: And the pdml and it's members can be devious. Shooting side-by-side with others can show you just how good your work could be. It can inspire you to greater care and taking your effort to the next level. I find shooting with Tom Cakalic does that to me. Or more to the point, it shows me how bad my work actually is, and makes me wonder why I even bother. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
Do you mean cleavage? 8) Jack --- On Fri, 4/1/11, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: From: William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Why do you shoot? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 4:51 PM On 01/04/2011 6:09 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I like looking at pretty women. How cliche. Some cliches surpass themselves. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. 8) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Chapeau
Nice capture.. a bit dark on my monitor but not by much I also went and looked at your visit to Larry stuff... and liked this a lot on the second time around... also toe cormy and the gaudy flower... but this faux pre-columbian mask was nice to see http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/ IMGP1566 ann Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share a shot I managed to capture while I was at the Olympic Club in San Francisco -- probably my favorite shot of the night. I was given permission by the folks hosting the event, as well as the subject, to share it. Non-lightbox version http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/ Lightbox version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/#/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/lightbox/ K-x, DA L 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 3200, 1/30, Aperture Priority Comments, critiques, and abusive harangues encouraged. Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
Bill, Mark Cassino was kinder to me. I didn't feel like I was totally worthless, but he showed me the potential for what was there. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 6:53 PM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/04/2011 9:10 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: And the pdml and it's members can be devious. Shooting side-by-side with others can show you just how good your work could be. It can inspire you to greater care and taking your effort to the next level. I find shooting with Tom Cakalic does that to me. Or more to the point, it shows me how bad my work actually is, and makes me wonder why I even bother. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Chapeau
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 12:17 -0500, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share a shot I managed to capture while I was at the Olympic Club in San Francisco -- probably my favorite shot of the night. I was given permission by the folks hosting the event, as well as the subject, to share it. An unusual portrait but well done. The off-centre composition works well and generally I like the tonal range. My only suggestion might be to lighten the table drapes on the left so that the dress is separated from them slightly. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Non-lightbox version http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/ Lightbox version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/#/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/lightbox/ K-x, DA L 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 3200, 1/30, Aperture Priority Comments, critiques, and abusive harangues encouraged. -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Friday - couple of things...
mainly for you film shooters... (1) 4 Tiffen filters with 58mm thread... ND 0.9 ND 0.6 4 point star filter and a polarizer (not circular) in a leather carrying case. Could you make me an offer for all or one of these? also - this is on ebay Tiffen step down rings 62 - 58 and 58- 55 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190516721097ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT (2) single shot steel developing tank with reel : $10.00 (3) 5 reel tank and a couple of plastic reels. $15.00 a fair to good copy of my out of print book - inside clean with my handwritten caption corrections . $15.00 SIGN LANGUAGE: a photograph album of visual puns (c) Ann Sanfedele and (c) Citadel Press, 1992. ISBN: 080651356X. I did a couple of calendars later - you can see a few selctions from the book. (There are 60 photos in the book itself.) here: http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Calendars-in-Print/SIGN-LANGUAGE-The-Calendar/9004811_8Y3ht The cheapest copy at Amazon right now is $18 I think... I have a couple of copies that are not it terrible shape . $2.00 shipping in USA. $3.00 Canada ann annsan.smugmug.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Chapeau
On 4/1/2011 4:01 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Isn't that part of the job of a personal assistant? To fetch things? If it is, she deserves a raise! Did you happen to notice the ISO on that shot? Gawd, I love my K-x, and can't imagine what a K-r or K-5 would've done in the same conditions. I hadn't noticed, but ISO 3200 is noticeably, but not dramatically better on the K-r and K-5. To me, noticeable is dramatic! -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Chapeau
On 4/1/2011 7:43 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Nice capture.. a bit dark on my monitor but not by much I also went and looked at your visit to Larry stuff... and liked this a lot on the second time around... also toe cormy and the gaudy flower... but this faux pre-columbian mask was nice to see http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/ IMGP1566 ann Thanks, Ann! Most of these shots could be improved quite a bit. I shot in RAW + JPG, and these are all taken from the JPGs, because I just felt the need to get something posted quickly given the number of shots I had to go through. I still have many more to go! -- Walt Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share a shot I managed to capture while I was at the Olympic Club in San Francisco -- probably my favorite shot of the night. I was given permission by the folks hosting the event, as well as the subject, to share it. Non-lightbox version http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/ Lightbox version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/#/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/lightbox/ K-x, DA L 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 3200, 1/30, Aperture Priority Comments, critiques, and abusive harangues encouraged. Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Chapeau
Thanks, Brian! I'll give your suggestion a try, though I have to admit I'm still very much a neophyte when it comes to photo editing. The best I can usually do is some auto-leveling, maybe bumping contrast, and some noise reduction -- and, of course, cropping. I have a really tough time editing sections of images without butchering the whole affair. :-\ Thanks for the input, and for having a look. -- Walt On 4/1/2011 8:19 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 12:17 -0500, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share a shot I managed to capture while I was at the Olympic Club in San Francisco -- probably my favorite shot of the night. I was given permission by the folks hosting the event, as well as the subject, to share it. An unusual portrait but well done. The off-centre composition works well and generally I like the tonal range. My only suggestion might be to lighten the table drapes on the left so that the dress is separated from them slightly. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Non-lightbox version http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/ Lightbox version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/#/photos/walt_gilbert/5579526933/lightbox/ K-x, DA L 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 3200, 1/30, Aperture Priority Comments, critiques, and abusive harangues encouraged. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Why do you shoot?
Apart from family shots, I do try to avoid clichés, but even then if the light is particularly striking, I will still go for it. For what I think is my 'real' photography (that's excluding the aforesaid family stuff!), my motivation falls into one of several sources: something catches my eye, such as some amazing graffiti in my neighbourhood, there is a documentary project such as the post-flood reconstruction images I'm working on currently, or it's all about the light, where the light _is_ the subject. My April 'Memories of Kodachrome' PUG entry falls into the latter category, as it was entirely motivated by having seen the same scene many times under different lighting, but recognising that there would be a striking image if the light happened to be just so. Often working on improving on the last effort on a topic doesn't work, but I think constantly trying to improve on that last effort in whichever category can only help to make me a better photographer. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy Sent: Saturday, 2 April 2011 4:12 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Why do you shoot? I also thank Collin for the thought-provoking post. I think we know what you mean by cliche images but I disagree with the concept entirely. I think what you call cliche images might more readily be called obvious beauty. Sunsets, flowers, cute babies, etc. They are likely subjects that we all notice and want to capture. They are almost empirically beautiful and it may be hard not to be attracted to photograph them. However, there is a difference between noticing obvious beauty and capturing it well. Frankly, I think that if we are going to condemn artists for capturing obvious beauty, then we probably need to condemn Ansel Adams for taking another damn photo of a mountain (or other landscape) or stone Georgia O'Keefe for choosing to do a painting of yet another damn flower. I think that is silly. You could spend your whole life just getting better at photographing one genre of obvious beauty, if you chose to do so. Now where I think Collin provides some inspiration and food for thought is in challenging us to extend our vision beyond obvious beauty, or perhaps leaving beauty altogether. One way that I like to challenge my eye is to go somewhere without obvious beauty and then try to find some by working only with the lines, shapes and colors that are there. Collin's theme suggestion is another good way to stretch one's eye/vision/execution. That would be my spin on Collin's word: Take out cliche images and replace it with obvious beauty and allow people to start there or stay there, if they so choose - but also consider growing/expanding your subjects. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
On 01/04/2011 7:04 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Bill, Mark Cassino was kinder to me. I didn't feel like I was totally worthless, but he showed me the potential for what was there. Please don't misunderstand, Tom is very gracious about it. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Notre Dame
Inside (possible cliche alert!): http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12868900size=lg Ironwork on the door: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12868901 (K7, FA 24-90) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW week 12 catch-up
Do you remember the story from a few years ago about a picture-a-day project? Guy went into the woods for 36 (?) days with one roll of film and shot just one photo per day. No chimping, no do-overs, . . . That really intrigued me! stan Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2011, at 7:53 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Thanks, Brian. I have flirted with the idea for a picture a day for next year--flirted with the idea, mind you! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 2:13 AM Subject: Re: PAW week 12 catch-up On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:51 -0500, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm at week 12, but didn't post weeks 9, 10, 11, 12 to the list. Not great stuff, but despite being sick, I kept up. I did try for the Perigee-Super-Moon (week 11). Darrel I went to Montrose Beach area. The shots are really more landscapey than moony. Nothing great, but I was there for the try :-). Just posting for the record. I'm glad I'm doing this, but it's not easy. Sometimes come Saturday I haven't taken a shot, and I start thinking about some new pose I can try to get Darrel to agree to. I actually might try for a self-portrait for next week--if nothing interesting finds its way into my camera. Cheers, Christine http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/ You think a picture-a-week is difficult. My son has set himself a picture-a-day project. I'm glad it's him and not me! - although he is using an iPhone for the project so that probably makes things a bit more achievable. I really like the flag shot - the whole scene has a wonderful sense of grunge. 'The Sun' is nicely done too. Keep it up!! Cheers -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2011
Costs money to leave that mirror out. Be careful: those things will corrupt you. -Original Message- From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 14:29:47 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GFM 2011 I wanted to, but my photography budget right now is small and reserved for an impending purchase into a mirrorless system. You read that correctly: I prefer spending my money on new camera equipment rather than on travelling to places worth photographing. You may flame me if it makes you feel better; I understand. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 1 April 2011 00:33, Theodore Beilby tbei...@sbcglobal.net wrote: OK, so I got my registration in for this years GFM Nature Photography Weekend. Who else? Hope somebody is going to come. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
I think many/most/all of my bird shots are cliche, or at least are attempts to rise to that level. However. I was just reading the Forward to a new edition of a Roger Tory Peterson Guide. The Forward by his son comments that RTP had the talent to not only paint lovely pictures of robins, but to have those paintings show the essence of Robin. Whatever the subject, that is what I would like to be able to do with photography. stan Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I also thank Collin for the thought-provoking post. I think we know what you mean by cliche images but I disagree with the concept entirely. I think what you call cliche images might more readily be called obvious beauty. Sunsets, flowers, cute babies, etc. They are likely subjects that we all notice and want to capture. They are almost empirically beautiful and it may be hard not to be attracted to photograph them. However, there is a difference between noticing obvious beauty and capturing it well. Frankly, I think that if we are going to condemn artists for capturing obvious beauty, then we probably need to condemn Ansel Adams for taking another damn photo of a mountain (or other landscape) or stone Georgia O'Keefe for choosing to do a painting of yet another damn flower. I think that is silly. You could spend your whole life just getting better at photographing one genre of obvious beauty, if you chose to do so. Now where I think Collin provides some inspiration and food for thought is in challenging us to extend our vision beyond obvious beauty, or perhaps leaving beauty altogether. One way that I like to challenge my eye is to go somewhere without obvious beauty and then try to find some by working only with the lines, shapes and colors that are there. Collin's theme suggestion is another good way to stretch one's eye/vision/execution. That would be my spin on Collin's word: Take out cliche images and replace it with obvious beauty and allow people to start there or stay there, if they so choose - but also consider growing/expanding your subjects. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Notre Dame
This always happens -- I miss postings, then find them - then look at the rest of soemone photos that they didn't PESO ... I like your Paris series for the memories it brings... and prettiness.. but ... I REALLY love this shot you called Elegance. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12098970 and I don't think you peso'ed that before. The simple close-ups of intricate latice work doesn't do as much for me as the things with something going on and more ... um. .. space. but the are always well-crafted . ann Rick Womer wrote: Inside (possible cliche alert!): http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12868900size=lg Ironwork on the door: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12868901 (K7, FA 24-90) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why do you shoot?
If it is a dark and stormy night and I take a photo of it, is that a cliche? :-) Late to the discussion but really, I don't think any subject in and of itself is a cliche . It is the manner in which it is presented that raises it above the ordinary when the person writing, painting, photographing, etc. does it wonderfully. There is a line in a film that a woman says - and I cant remember the film or the speaker but the line is about someone being the very best of a type does this ring a bell with anyone? Ummm it _might_ be from Gigi or umm Pygmalion in one of it's incarnations? and I love a really wonderful bird photo any day of the week... ann Stan Halpin wrote: I think many/most/all of my bird shots are cliche, or at least are attempts to rise to that level. However. I was just reading the Forward to a new edition of a Roger Tory Peterson Guide. The Forward by his son comments that RTP had the talent to not only paint lovely pictures of robins, but to have those paintings show the essence of Robin. Whatever the subject, that is what I would like to be able to do with photography. stan Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I also thank Collin for the thought-provoking post. I think we know what you mean by cliche images but I disagree with the concept entirely. I think what you call cliche images might more readily be called obvious beauty. Sunsets, flowers, cute babies, etc. They are likely subjects that we all notice and want to capture. They are almost empirically beautiful and it may be hard not to be attracted to photograph them. However, there is a difference between noticing obvious beauty and capturing it well. Frankly, I think that if we are going to condemn artists for capturing obvious beauty, then we probably need to condemn Ansel Adams for taking another damn photo of a mountain (or other landscape) or stone Georgia O'Keefe for choosing to do a painting of yet another damn flower. I think that is silly. You could spend your whole life just getting better at photographing one genre of obvious beauty, if you chose to do so. Now where I think Collin provides some inspiration and food for thought is in challenging us to extend our vision beyond obvious beauty, or perhaps leaving beauty altogether. One way that I like to challenge my eye is to go somewhere without obvious beauty and then try to find some by working only with the lines, shapes and colors that are there. Collin's theme suggestion is another good way to stretch one's eye/vision/execution. That would be my spin on Collin's word: Take out cliche images and replace it with obvious beauty and allow people to start there or stay there, if they so choose - but also consider growing/expanding your subjects. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: A new way to communicate
http://mail.google.com/mail/help/motion.html -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
rumored mirrorless pentax with pictures
I've been getting quite few google alerts with sites talking about the rumored pentax mirrorless camera. Here's one with pictures. cheers, Christine http://www.slashgear.com/first-pic-of-new-pentax-nc-mirrorless-camera-system-surfaces-01143853/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
