Re: DA DA* on FF
Paul, I don't think the point is to see if Pentax is going FF. IMO the point is only to test which lenses can/might/will be used on an FF body, be it digital or film. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 5:26 AM, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rather good? They vignette predictably. But as others have said, I suspect there well be an APS-C crop option if there ever is a full frame body. And that in itself seems to be a big if. Of course, you can always crop in post, and if you're shooting RAW anyway, it's not a huge inconvenience. But I still don't see any indication that Pentax will ever go full frame. Paul On Nov 26, 2008, at 9:42 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Joseph McAllister wrote: [...] I am enjoying the boxes of DA and DA* lenses. The downside, as I told my insurance company, was if/when Pentax comes out with their FF body, these lenses will be useless. Not necessarily. There's a blogger by the name of Yvon Bourque who is fitting DA and DA* lenses to an older film body to see what happens. So far the results are rather good for FF ... http://pentaxdslrs.blogspot.com/2008/11/is-image-circle-of-pentax-da-70mm-ltd.html http://pentaxdslrs.blogspot.com/2008/10/who-said-you-couldnt-use-your-dada.html -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - (and a question) - Love on the Dancefloor
I'm fairly certain it will happen in Foveon sensors as well, any digital recording device with a grid pattern in fact. The best way to avoid it is to not over expose especially at high ISO values. John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling Banding can be a problem with all DSLRs, it usually shows up at higher ISOs. (What a higher ISO is depends on the sensor chip). frank theriault wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frank theriault wrote: No idea about the mysterious lines, but I love the photo! I wouldn't worry about noise reduction; the noise adds to this shot, IMO. Sort of a Bob Capa covers the rave scene feel to it :) Is banding inherent to the Bayer pattern sensors; something to do with the algorithm necessary to fill in the blanks? I wonder if the Foveon sensors Sigma uses have the same problem with banding at high ISOs? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Custom Machinist doing gods work...
That was my question, maybe it was originally supplied with a 67 mount, and the owner wanted it to work on the K1000 without any adapter, or maybe the mount was lost... Jim King wrote: P. J. Alling wrote on Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:30:17 -0800: I don't know exactly why you'd need a custom made adapter like this but if it works on a K1000 it'll work on a K20d http://www.skgrimes.com/thisweek/1-11-08-2141/index.htm What am I missing here? My Pentax K500/4.5 mounts just fine on both my K1000 film body and my K20D digital body, with no problem in focusing to infinity. Of course, focusing is manual unless I use my F1.7x AF Teleconverter behind the lens... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
Puts me in mind of the time I had to develop a time/date control, because the out of the box control was so annoying to the users, and management didn't think it was worth buying something so simple, then endlessly complained about how much time it was taking me to build one. (So it's a run on sentence, so sue me). John Sessoms wrote: From: Bob W The photo.net ads are only marginally less annoying - at least they don't come with sound. Why don't these people learn? Don't they test people's reactions to their to their stupid, sophomoric ideas? The first lessons in user interface design are: Don't piss off your user; don't put animations on the screen; don't use sound unless it's easy to turn it off. Generally, they test them by getting other stupid, sophomoric web developers to check it out. So the feed-back they get from their testers is as moronic as their own ideas. They get told whether their latest, greatest widget works or not, but no one ever tells them the widget is stupid and annoying. They're all overly impressed with their own cleverness. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Black Friday Pentax deals?
John Sessoms wrote: From: David Savage Joseph McAllister Sent: As an aside, I'm not quite convinced that getting a new K20D was the best replacement for my stolen 67 gear, but I am enjoying the boxes of DA and DA* lenses. The downside, as I told my insurance company, was if/when Pentax comes out with their FF body, these lenses will be useless. No necessarily. Nikon's DX lenses work on the D3/D700. Admittedly at a cropped resolution, but they do work. What's the point of shelling out the bucks for a full frame DSLR, if you're only going to be able to shoot cropped because the lenses won't cover the full frame? So you'll have to replace all those APS-C lenses with 24x36mm format lenses. You get to indulge in more lens enablement, and Pentax makes more money, everybody wins... -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Autumn Memories
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/25 Tue PM 04:06:37 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories They look like they could be oak leaves, which are full of tannins. That would stain the concrete and eventually be weathered away. What I find odd is that they are (presumably) quite water soluble, to be leached out of the leaf into the concrete by rain or dew but then they are not washed away from there. Very, very intriquing. The other possibility is that it is a wax covering that is somehow being transferred to the concrete and then resisting removal. Plant waxes are rather persistent chemicals - carnauba wax, found in many polishes until the advent of modern polymers, is/was extracted from the surface of leaves. mike wilson wrote: From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/24 Mon PM 06:51:42 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories Thanks Marnie. I've never seen this kind of impression anywhere other than the location where I shot these pics. At least I finally got around to shooting them:-). BTW, I used the venerable Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 at f4. Do you know what sort of tree it is? It looks as if there is some residual resin being leached out and leaving the impression. On Nov 24, 2008, at 12:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/23/2008 5:20:53 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Last year, I noticed a strange phenomenon on my morning runs. It seemed that on one short stretch of new concrete, fallen leaves would leave an image that lasted for months after the leaves had blown away. On adjacent surfaces, no images were created. And it seemed that only one type of leaf created these impressions. I was amazed to see that they endured for months, through rain, snow, salting and plowing. This year the process was repeated, and I decided to photograph some of these autumn memories. Paul http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=878138 == Way cool. I like the two leaves the best (one up, one down). Easier to see what they are. Interesting. Never noticed that anywhere around here. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/ ?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Autumn Memories
Tea stains are not particularly easy to remove. Tannins are relatively soluble at certain PH values and less so at others IIRC. mike wilson wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/25 Tue PM 04:06:37 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories They look like they could be oak leaves, which are full of tannins. That would stain the concrete and eventually be weathered away. What I find odd is that they are (presumably) quite water soluble, to be leached out of the leaf into the concrete by rain or dew but then they are not washed away from there. Very, very intriquing. The other possibility is that it is a wax covering that is somehow being transferred to the concrete and then resisting removal. Plant waxes are rather persistent chemicals - carnauba wax, found in many polishes until the advent of modern polymers, is/was extracted from the surface of leaves. mike wilson wrote: From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/24 Mon PM 06:51:42 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories Thanks Marnie. I've never seen this kind of impression anywhere other than the location where I shot these pics. At least I finally got around to shooting them:-). BTW, I used the venerable Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 at f4. Do you know what sort of tree it is? It looks as if there is some residual resin being leached out and leaving the impression. On Nov 24, 2008, at 12:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/23/2008 5:20:53 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Last year, I noticed a strange phenomenon on my morning runs. It seemed that on one short stretch of new concrete, fallen leaves would leave an image that lasted for months after the leaves had blown away. On adjacent surfaces, no images were created. And it seemed that only one type of leaf created these impressions. I was amazed to see that they endured for months, through rain, snow, salting and plowing. This year the process was repeated, and I decided to photograph some of these autumn memories. Paul http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=878138 == Way cool. I like the two leaves the best (one up, one down). Easier to see what they are. Interesting. Never noticed that anywhere around here. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/ ?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Mumbi Terrorism
Subash escribió: i am at the other eastern side of the country, but i do have a lot of friends in mumbai. but, as i write, terrorists are holed up in three five star hotels in mumbai, usually frequented by foreign tourists, holding an unknown number as hostages. the army has been called up, as have the NSG (the elite indian anti-terror squad). could be islamist terrorists. could be hindu militants. they are not letting out any details as operations are currently underway but already about a 100 dead. hoping for the best in the hours ahead, if there can be such a thing in such circumstances I stayed in one of the attacked hotels (Taj Mahal) some years ago when visiting Mumbai. I hope the Indian police are able to free the hostages without any more casualties. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Black Friday Pentax deals?
Well at the very least you can use them. IIRC Canon cropped sensor lenses can't be used on their FF digi bodies. Cheers, Dave 2008/11/27 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: John Sessoms wrote: From: David Savage Joseph McAllister Sent: As an aside, I'm not quite convinced that getting a new K20D was the best replacement for my stolen 67 gear, but I am enjoying the boxes of DA and DA* lenses. The downside, as I told my insurance company, was if/when Pentax comes out with their FF body, these lenses will be useless. No necessarily. Nikon's DX lenses work on the D3/D700. Admittedly at a cropped resolution, but they do work. What's the point of shelling out the bucks for a full frame DSLR, if you're only going to be able to shoot cropped because the lenses won't cover the full frame? So you'll have to replace all those APS-C lenses with 24x36mm format lenses. You get to indulge in more lens enablement, and Pentax makes more money, everybody wins... -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Mumbi Terrorism
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:06:18 +0100 Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I stayed in one of the attacked hotels (Taj Mahal) some years ago when visiting Mumbai. I hope the Indian police are able to free the hostages without any more casualties. thanks Carlos, but that seems extremely unlikely. according to indian tv channels these are muslim fidayeen, and one of the structures they are holed in is not a five star hotel like i previously said but is the Nariman House where there is a relatively large Jewish/Israeli population livingarmy commandos have taken over now. out of the 101 dead so far, 9 are foreign tourists, the rest indians. long day ahead regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: Listen
t does look good at web size, looks pretty sweet full size too. :-) Thanks for looking. Cheers, Dave 2008/11/25 PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nice portrait. And very clean. No apparent noise to my eye. Paul On Nov 24, 2008, at 5:45 PM, David Savage wrote: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/3055207349_a6e8a59b2c_o.jpg D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/60 @ f1.4, ISO 2500. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: Listen
Thanks Bob. Cheers, Dave 2008/11/25 Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nicely done, and atmospheric. I like the blurred guy in the background about to take a slug. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: 24 November 2008 22:45 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT PESO: Listen http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/3055207349_a6e8a59b2c_o.jpg D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/60 @ f1.4, ISO 2500. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/27 Thu AM 01:15:04 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Canadian Meteor If the advertising didn't work, it wouldn't be there. Web advertisers carefully record hits and compare them to sales. I'm not happy with the Adorama ads on photo.net, but I would guess they're working. Newbies who arrive at the site are probably looking for a place to buy equipment. Bingo: Adorama. And the prices are good. So a sale is made. The economy is tough these days. Everyone is struggling to survive. Marketers seize on any edge they can find. Could the Adorama tie-in backfire for photo.net? Possibly. But chances are, it will prove successful. The trick is to find the balance between noticeable, actionable and unintrusive. Right now, it's probably too intrusive, but not by much. It really doesn't bother me. Didn't even notice it at first. Er, but, well - it's an advert. And you are a pro in that world. It's not very _good_ then, is it? - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: Listen
2008/11/25 ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]: G'day Dave Nicely done Ann, you even got the accent right :-) love it! Good :-) Thanks for looking. Cheers, Dave David Savage wrote: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/3055207349_a6e8a59b2c_o.jpg D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/60 @ f1.4, ISO 2500. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: Listen
2008/11/25 Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David Savage wrote: G'day All, http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/3055207349_a6e8a59b2c_o.jpg Nicely done, Dave. Thank you sir. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: Listen
2008/11/26 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In a message dated 11/24/2008 2:45:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/3055207349_a6e8a59b2c_o.jpg D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/60 @ f1.4, ISO 2500. === Very nice. Good DOF, like the way he is focused and the others aren't. Well done. Thanks Marnie. The guys either side of him have really rough heads so using DOF to blur them was necessary. :-D Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] My next site will have galleries based on flash presentation for a variety of reasons. I fully expect half of PDML will boycott it. Mark! (for the underestimation) - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: Listen
2008/11/26 Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 11/24/08, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day All, http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/3055207349_a6e8a59b2c_o.jpg That's very nice. Love the composition and the guy in the background. Just one little nit - it seems your subject's left eye is in focus and for some reason I can't help but want it on the right eye. It's kinda odd how little things like that jump out at some of us but not others. Anyway, very nice. Thanks Scott. Compressing this for web has made the image look a little softer than it really si, but the left eye (his right) is the sharpest of the 2 (but only just). Here is a full sized version (~1.4mb): http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/_DSC5695.jpg Working with such shallow DOF trying to shoot a moving subject makes nailing down the focus point tricky. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: Listen
2008/11/26 Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 11/24/08, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day All, http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/3055207349_a6e8a59b2c_o.jpg That's very nice. Love the composition and the guy in the background. Just one little nit - it seems your subject's left eye is in focus and for some reason I can't help but want it on the right eye. It's kinda odd how little things like that jump out at some of us but not others. Anyway, very nice. I think it's always better to focus on the nearer eye. Ditto which is what I did, but the subject was moving about I had to wait for just the right moment (ie Him to stop moving the guy closest to me to move back (left) further) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: Listen
2008/11/26 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:45 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/3055207349_a6e8a59b2c_o.jpg D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/60 @ f1.4, ISO 2500. I like this one a lot! Thank you knarF. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: Listen
2008/11/25 David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:45 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day All, http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/3055207349_a6e8a59b2c_o.jpg D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/60 @ f1.4, ISO 2500. Also the restaurant isn't as brightly lit as this photo makes it look. These situations are when I truly love using the D700. Thats a good portrait shot Dave. No noise visible on the ibook. Than you. I was pleased with it. PS For those that enjoy street photography, the main subject of this photo is very talented: WW does not, he told me.:-) Har! Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
But the marketers test those web ads by counting click throughs and comparing that number to sales of featured products. They have to work, or they're gone. That being said, it's probably a bit too soon to say for sure how well the Adorama ads on photo.net work, but I suspect they already have a rough idea. And the initial media buy was probably for thirty days before Christmas. Paul On Nov 27, 2008, at 12:11 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Bob W The photo.net ads are only marginally less annoying - at least they don't come with sound. Why don't these people learn? Don't they test people's reactions to their to their stupid, sophomoric ideas? The first lessons in user interface design are: Don't piss off your user; don't put animations on the screen; don't use sound unless it's easy to turn it off. Generally, they test them by getting other stupid, sophomoric web developers to check it out. So the feed-back they get from their testers is as moronic as their own ideas. They get told whether their latest, greatest widget works or not, but no one ever tells them the widget is stupid and annoying. They're all overly impressed with their own cleverness. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: Listen
While it wasn't very bright the 2 light sources that are illuminating either side of his face did a fine job. BTW, the light is mainly coming from the dessert counter camera right, a drinks fridge camera left :-) Cheers, Dave 2008/11/25 Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nice one, Dave. I've done some shots with the K20D at ISO 2000+ in low light conditions I get that same brightly lit look as you did. It's like a little interior flash without the flash. I was quite surprised by it when I first saw it. Anyway, enjoyed your picture. Love the expression on the guy. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/3055207349_a6e8a59b2c_o.jpg D700, AF-D 50mm f1.4, 1/60 @ f1.4, ISO 2500. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Canadian Meteor
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/26 Wed PM 08:13:20 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - Canadian Meteor I have a cause - to rid the world of advertising. I'm putting double-page spreads in all the national dailies tomorrow, and having a poster campaign to announce it to the world and ask people to rally to the cause. Bob You'll get nowhere without TV. Bob W. You need a cause or something to crusade for...maybe global warming? This problem with Photo.net advertising seems to petty to merit your attention. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:47 AM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay. But my real point was that none of the photo sites are perfect. [...] i just didn't like the recommendation that PDML members refrain from posting on photo.net. I've been there for a long time, and I intend to stay there. Paul I wasn't complaining about advertising as such, I was complaining about the particularly annoying type of advertising that photo.net is showing at the moment. I dislike advertising intensely at the best of times. More often than not it's visual pollution and thinly disguised lying, but I'm enough of a realist to know it's not going away, and advertising per se won't necessarily drive me away from a site. However I don't have to put up with annoying animations winking in the corner of my eye. The fact that a site is able to attract advertising is an indication of its success, not its failure. That may be so, but when the advertising starts to drive people away, who wins? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - More Chimping on the Tube
The mild fisheye distortion works well here. Another excellent shot. Paul On Nov 27, 2008, at 1:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/26/2008 1:10:11 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I love subways. I'm sure a Freudian would have fun with that. I love what people do on subways - there's so much more room on a subway car than a bus or a streetcar (our city's term for trams) that people seem to engage in all manner of activities (both social and otherwise) that are more difficult to see (or photograph!) on other forms of public transit. This one's really no big whoop; part of the reason I posted it is that it was taken with the 18mm Zenitar fisheye, which as we all know turns into a semi-fisheye on an APS-sized sensor body, and we all know that a semi-fisheye is like semi-sex, but my feeling is that as semi-sex is better than no sex at all, so a semi-fisheye is better than nothing. Seriously, this is a fun lens. Hope you enjoy: http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2008/11/more-chimping-on-tube.html cheers, frank == Nice. Like it. Not sure what semi-sex is, though. Sex on a semi (truck)? Sounds rather difficult. Marnie aka Doe ;-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002 ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Autumn Memories
I believe that the leaves are from sycamore tree. Other leaves don't seem to leave such a distinct impression. Paul On Nov 27, 2008, at 3:42 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/25 Tue PM 04:06:37 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories They look like they could be oak leaves, which are full of tannins. That would stain the concrete and eventually be weathered away. What I find odd is that they are (presumably) quite water soluble, to be leached out of the leaf into the concrete by rain or dew but then they are not washed away from there. Very, very intriquing. The other possibility is that it is a wax covering that is somehow being transferred to the concrete and then resisting removal. Plant waxes are rather persistent chemicals - carnauba wax, found in many polishes until the advent of modern polymers, is/was extracted from the surface of leaves. mike wilson wrote: From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/24 Mon PM 06:51:42 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories Thanks Marnie. I've never seen this kind of impression anywhere other than the location where I shot these pics. At least I finally got around to shooting them:-). BTW, I used the venerable Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 at f4. Do you know what sort of tree it is? It looks as if there is some residual resin being leached out and leaving the impression. On Nov 24, 2008, at 12:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/23/2008 5:20:53 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Last year, I noticed a strange phenomenon on my morning runs. It seemed that on one short stretch of new concrete, fallen leaves would leave an image that lasted for months after the leaves had blown away. On adjacent surfaces, no images were created. And it seemed that only one type of leaf created these impressions. I was amazed to see that they endured for months, through rain, snow, salting and plowing. This year the process was repeated, and I decided to photograph some of these autumn memories. Paul http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=878138 == Way cool. I like the two leaves the best (one up, one down). Easier to see what they are. Interesting. Never noticed that anywhere around here. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/ ?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
I think the Adorama advertising okay. It's not horribly intrusive, yet it gets noticed by most. I tend to mentally turn off my ad recognition mode when I'm just having fun on the web. When I'm working, on the other hand, I may go looking for ads. But I know how to leave it at the office:-). Paul On Nov 27, 2008, at 6:50 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/27 Thu AM 01:15:04 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Canadian Meteor If the advertising didn't work, it wouldn't be there. Web advertisers carefully record hits and compare them to sales. I'm not happy with the Adorama ads on photo.net, but I would guess they're working. Newbies who arrive at the site are probably looking for a place to buy equipment. Bingo: Adorama. And the prices are good. So a sale is made. The economy is tough these days. Everyone is struggling to survive. Marketers seize on any edge they can find. Could the Adorama tie-in backfire for photo.net? Possibly. But chances are, it will prove successful. The trick is to find the balance between noticeable, actionable and unintrusive. Right now, it's probably too intrusive, but not by much. It really doesn't bother me. Didn't even notice it at first. Er, but, well - it's an advert. And you are a pro in that world. It's not very _good_ then, is it? - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: # of PDML Subscribers?
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:23:22 +, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: From: John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/26 Wed PM 06:19:02 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: # of PDML Subscribers? From: Steve Desjardins Yo Pavol. OK, let's just count off. One. forty two That's your answer to everything, isn't it? 42 is *THE* answer to everything... Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: # of PDML Subscribers?
From: John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/26 Wed PM 06:19:02 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: # of PDML Subscribers? From: Steve Desjardins Yo Pavol. OK, let's just count off. One. forty two That's your answer to everything, isn't it? - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Mumbi Terrorism
Unfortunately I just read in our local news that they've found 40 or so bodies in one of the hotels... Today is very sad day. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I stayed in one of the attacked hotels (Taj Mahal) some years ago when visiting Mumbai. I hope the Indian police are able to free the hostages without any more casualties. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: Listen
2008/11/27 Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think it's always better to focus on the nearer eye. Although another piece of wisdom is to focus on the lit side rather than the shadow side. It's six of one and a half dozen of the other in this shot, which is excellent by the way, Dave. Cheers Anthony. As for rules...pfft. :-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some what OT Pricing question for the Guru's. Long
I do like it, i like being around the shows, the people, the horses. It is, however, getting harder to do each year. Feet, knees and back all seem to get very sore at 9-10 am instead of 2-3pm as when i first started. That, and the lack of profit, is why i;m having to make this, to stay or not decision. Thanks for the input. I can't really lay my self off, i'm never around to answer my phone.:-) Dave On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:05 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously your business is very price competitive, the only way you're going to make more sales is to lower prices which means you'll have to lower costs. My advice is to lay yourself off. It that seems like stupid advice, look at it this way, I net more money on a single wedding than you do on an entire year of horse shows. If you do it because you love it then keep doing it. If you do it to make money... David J Brooks wrote: I'm still waiting to see what my bottom line is this year, before i decide about doing horse shows in 2009. However, i am pondering some prices for my CD packages, just in case i carry on. Might just have to concidering the economic problems these days. A quick history first i think, so you can see were i came up with my CD's. In 2004 i went web sales only, no more onsite. With onsite sales, I made a little money after paying staff, re stocking paper and ink and fixing equipment, constantly. In 2004 and 2005, i made $0.000 dollars. In 2006 i was on my way to my third break even season. I have always offered one CD deal, which is a single show package, were in you could buy all of the pictures from 1 show for $30.00. This would range from 2-8 shots, depending on were i was, division type, etc. This sold modestly, maybe 5-6 per season. Not wanting to have 3 loosing season in a row, in an act of pure desperation, around late fall, i offered on my site, a full year CD were in you could buy ALL of the photos i took, for $50.00. Don't ask were i pulled that number out from, but I did.:-) Anyway i recieved a fair amount of response to this, and managed to make a profit, by years end. I carried on with the two packages up to the present, as it seems this is were my final profits seem to come latley. What i now would like to do is either change the package a bit or keep it the same and raise the price. Some of these year deals can involve 70-80 shots and to go through each 1 and do the CD can take up to 2 hours, plus time spent at the show, downloading etc. - Keep CD the same and raise the price to $80 to $100.00 - Change CD to a pick your favorite 10 or 12 shots and leave price the same. I know i have dug a hole here with a cheap price for so long, and times are a bit tough right now, although that does not seem to effect the horsey crowd, They always are buying something some were.:-) I think the CD's are a worth while thing to keep doing, as it offers up a potential sale, when the pictures are not quite what they want for a print, but good enough to own for email, showing friends and family, if that makes sense.At least this is what i have heard from the buyers. Nice photo i shot, but riders body not quite right or horse, just a tad off square, but to them its worth having those as files, not prints. I'm the only one around that offers these two deals. Some offer a show deal, similar to mine, up to three shots from 1 day, but they charge $80.00, then $10-00 to 15.00 per additional shot. I have been told by a number of past customers, even though all the other photog's take nice shots, they will buy from me, just because of my lower prices. So.you can see my dilema. Any thoughts, tips, curses for basically giving my stuff away,.\\ Dave -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
Ok, i'm going against what seems to be a norm here, and say, i do like to watch TV. HOWEVER, since the invention of reality, yuck, TV, and the infomercial,, i find i am watching far less the past while. I like GOOD sitcoms, those from the 50's and 60's, and to watch hockey, baseball etc. I DO find myself, as soon a a station break comes on, run the gamat of channels until the commercials are over. If i want it i'l;l buy, dispite what Ed McMahon wants me to buy.:-) Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
On Nov 26, 2008, at 10:40 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/27/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the spirit Christine - don't let a hoard of grumpy old men bring down the party! I'm not old... I'm not grumpy... I'm not a man. Wait. What? Oh you kid! G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Black Friday Pentax deals?
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:15 AM, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage Joseph McAllister Sent: As an aside, I'm not quite convinced that getting a new K20D was the best replacement for my stolen 67 gear, but I am enjoying the boxes of DA and DA* lenses. The downside, as I told my insurance company, was if/when Pentax comes out with their FF body, these lenses will be useless. No necessarily. Nikon's DX lenses work on the D3/D700. Admittedly at a cropped resolution, but they do work. What's the point of shelling out the bucks for a full frame DSLR, if you're only going to be able to shoot cropped because the lenses won't cover the full frame? I have two DX lenses, and three FF lens, so far i win.:-) As Dave S points out, at least they can be used, and not have to collect dust somewere. A lot of people over at nikond1 dot net have 1 FF body and 1 aps-c body, D200, D300 etc. I hope to be among those soon.:-) Dave Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 9:40 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, i'm going against what seems to be a norm here, snip There's only one Norm here, and he's been pretty quiet lately and I for one would prefer that it stay that way. Let's just leave him out of it, okay? ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/27/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the spirit Christine - don't let a hoard of grumpy old men bring down the party! I'm not old... I'm not grumpy... I'm not a man. Wait. What? Thats it, i'm writing a book about PDML.:-) Dave -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Black Friday Pentax deals?
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:15 AM, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage Nikon's DX lenses work on the D3/D700. Admittedly at a cropped resolution, but they do work. What's the point of shelling out the bucks for a full frame DSLR, if you're only going to be able to shoot cropped because the lenses won't cover the full frame? So you don't have to shell out an extra $2000 right away to get a good ultra-wide zoom. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Black Friday Pentax deals?
Canon EF-S crop lenses can't even be used on their 1.3x crop bodies. -Adam On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 4:39 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well at the very least you can use them. IIRC Canon cropped sensor lenses can't be used on their FF digi bodies. Cheers, Dave 2008/11/27 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: John Sessoms wrote: From: David Savage Joseph McAllister Sent: As an aside, I'm not quite convinced that getting a new K20D was the best replacement for my stolen 67 gear, but I am enjoying the boxes of DA and DA* lenses. The downside, as I told my insurance company, was if/when Pentax comes out with their FF body, these lenses will be useless. No necessarily. Nikon's DX lenses work on the D3/D700. Admittedly at a cropped resolution, but they do work. What's the point of shelling out the bucks for a full frame DSLR, if you're only going to be able to shoot cropped because the lenses won't cover the full frame? So you'll have to replace all those APS-C lenses with 24x36mm format lenses. You get to indulge in more lens enablement, and Pentax makes more money, everybody wins... -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
I won't buy from Adorama anyway. Their service isn't great. :-) Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com On Nov 27, 2008, at 5:49 AM, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the Adorama advertising okay. It's not horribly intrusive, yet it gets noticed by most. I tend to mentally turn off my ad recognition mode when I'm just having fun on the web. When I'm working, on the other hand, I may go looking for ads. But I know how to leave it at the office:-). Paul On Nov 27, 2008, at 6:50 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/27 Thu AM 01:15:04 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Canadian Meteor If the advertising didn't work, it wouldn't be there. Web advertisers carefully record hits and compare them to sales. I'm not happy with the Adorama ads on photo.net, but I would guess they're working. Newbies who arrive at the site are probably looking for a place to buy equipment. Bingo: Adorama. And the prices are good. So a sale is made. The economy is tough these days. Everyone is struggling to survive. Marketers seize on any edge they can find. Could the Adorama tie-in backfire for photo.net? Possibly. But chances are, it will prove successful. The trick is to find the balance between noticeable, actionable and unintrusive. Right now, it's probably too intrusive, but not by much. It really doesn't bother me. Didn't even notice it at first. Er, but, well - it's an advert. And you are a pro in that world. It's not very _good_ then, is it? - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
2008/11/27 David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/27/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the spirit Christine - don't let a hoard of grumpy old men bring down the party! I'm not old... I'm not grumpy... I'm not a man. Wait. What? Thats it, i'm writing a book about PDML.:-) Crying Photographic Game? Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
I actually really like a good ad, the problem is most are crap. Here are 2 of my current fave's that are on the TV at the moment: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Z2gKT7B6Yfeature=related http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=_RqrdRqAr1Q Cheers, Dave 2008/11/27 David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok, i'm going against what seems to be a norm here, and say, i do like to watch TV. HOWEVER, since the invention of reality, yuck, TV, and the infomercial,, i find i am watching far less the past while. I like GOOD sitcoms, those from the 50's and 60's, and to watch hockey, baseball etc. I DO find myself, as soon a a station break comes on, run the gamat of channels until the commercials are over. If i want it i'l;l buy, dispite what Ed McMahon wants me to buy.:-) Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Mumbi Terrorism
Subash: I hope your friends are safe; and yes, a sad day. Christine - Original Message - From: Subash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 12:48 AM Subject: Re: OT: Mumbi Terrorism On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:57:22 +1100 Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know how may PDMLers we have in India but Subash is certainly one. Foreigners seem to have been the main targets of todays' terrible events in Mumbai but, as in all cases like this, locals invariably get caught up in it. Subash (and any others in India), I'm sure all of us hope you are all safe and that calm will return soon. brian thanks for the concern... i am at the other eastern side of the country, but i do have a lot of friends in mumbai. but, as i write, terrorists are holed up in three five star hotels in mumbai, usually frequented by foreign tourists, holding an unknown number as hostages. the army has been called up, as have the NSG (the elite indian anti-terror squad). could be islamist terrorists. could be hindu militants. they are not letting out any details as operations are currently underway but already about a 100 dead. hoping for the best in the hours ahead, if there can be such a thing in such circumstances regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
Couple of great ads, but neither would ever make it to TV here in North America. They're insufficiently Politically Correct. -Adam On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:04 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually really like a good ad, the problem is most are crap. Here are 2 of my current fave's that are on the TV at the moment: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Z2gKT7B6Yfeature=related http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=_RqrdRqAr1Q Cheers, Dave 2008/11/27 David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok, i'm going against what seems to be a norm here, and say, i do like to watch TV. HOWEVER, since the invention of reality, yuck, TV, and the infomercial,, i find i am watching far less the past while. I like GOOD sitcoms, those from the 50's and 60's, and to watch hockey, baseball etc. I DO find myself, as soon a a station break comes on, run the gamat of channels until the commercials are over. If i want it i'l;l buy, dispite what Ed McMahon wants me to buy.:-) Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Custom Machinist doing gods work...
Jim, I think that the 500mm that was modified was a screw mount lens. I know the one that I saw locally for sale is, and my big concern is all that weight hanging on a flimsy M-42 adapter. Walt What am I missing here? My Pentax K500/4.5 mounts just fine on both my K1000 film body and my K20D digital body, with no problem in focusing to infinity. Of course, focusing is manual unless I use my F1.7x AF Teleconverter behind the lens... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Custom Machinist doing gods work...
Shouldn't be an issue. With big lenses the camera hangs off them, not the other way around. Cheers, Dave 2008/11/28 Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jim, I think that the 500mm that was modified was a screw mount lens. I know the one that I saw locally for sale is, and my big concern is all that weight hanging on a flimsy M-42 adapter. Walt What am I missing here? My Pentax K500/4.5 mounts just fine on both my K1000 film body and my K20D digital body, with no problem in focusing to infinity. Of course, focusing is manual unless I use my F1.7x AF Teleconverter behind the lens... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Custom Machinist doing gods work...
In theory I agree, however the 300mm f/4 screw mount I had on a DL was heavy enough to cause some torqueing that I was uncomfortable with. Of course, I was also using one of the cheapie Hong Kong adapters at first. Walt On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:26 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shouldn't be an issue. With big lenses the camera hangs off them, not the other way around. Cheers, Dave 2008/11/28 Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jim, I think that the 500mm that was modified was a screw mount lens. I know the one that I saw locally for sale is, and my big concern is all that weight hanging on a flimsy M-42 adapter. Walt What am I missing here? My Pentax K500/4.5 mounts just fine on both my K1000 film body and my K20D digital body, with no problem in focusing to infinity. Of course, focusing is manual unless I use my F1.7x AF Teleconverter behind the lens... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Custom Machinist doing gods work...
On 11/27/08, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In theory I agree, however the 300mm f/4 screw mount I had on a DL was heavy enough to cause some torqueing that I was uncomfortable with. Of course, I was also using one of the cheapie Hong Kong adapters at first. I've had no problems with my SMC Tak 400/5.6 and a Pentax brand adapter. Has worked for both my Super Program and my DS2. And the lens is SO SO nice... -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Mumbi Terrorism
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:41:00 +0200 Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately I just read in our local news that they've found 40 or so bodies in one of the hotels... Today is very sad day. possibly but not officially confirmed as the police have not released any figures or any other info in fact. counter operations are still going on. what is known is that at the two hotels the terrorists are holding an unspecified number of people hostages. and the hostages at Nariman House includes a Rabbi and his wife... http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080074267 still hoping for the best -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Mumbi Terrorism
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:08:18 -0600 Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subash: I hope your friends are safe; and yes, a sad day. Christine thanks Christine. much appreciated. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Happy Thanksgiving!
G'morning all, Because I was taught from an early age, it's impolite to type with my mouth full, let me extend a sincere wish that your day be filled with nature's bounty and, especially, true friends and loving family(ies). Best, Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 3 PESOs: Nephew (or: The Joys of Slave Flash Photography)
On Nov 26, 2008, at 6:14 PM, John Celio wrote: On sunday my family had a little mini Thanksgiving dinner, since some of us would be travelling this weekend. I used the opportunity to take lots of photos of my 6-month old nephew Anthony, who learned to crawl a month ago and is just curious as heck! I also rediscovered the joys of off-camera flash photography and put my AF540FGZ through its paces. http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=865 I don't know about other babies, but this guy is a joy to photograph. He's pretty easy-going and easily distracted. :) http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=857 Fire the flash once and he looks towards it. Fire again and you've got a photo like this. http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=859 Anthony's mom, bottom right, knows how to make him smile, and his dad (the blur in the top right, my brother) is just plain goofy. Happy Thanksgiving to all my fellow Americans! Good stuff, John! He's got a great face. :-) HTD to all Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
On Nov 26, 2008, at 7:45 PM, John Francis wrote: Rather an exaggeration. There are ways to watch TV that don't involve watching a show at the time of broadcast. They're not free, of course (except for shows streamed over the web from the major networks, but those are even worse - the ads come more frequently, and you can't skip over them). I haven't relied on live TV for decades - nowadays I have a couple of TiVos, but before that I used to timewshift using VCRs. And with the TiVos it's loss free - the recorded signal is bit-for-bit identical to the original signal when recording from a digital source (digital cable, over-the-air digital TV, or digital satellite service). Netflix offer streaming video, although not for much current stuff. But if you like to watch old TV shows it's a great adjunct to DVD rental; you don't need to decide what you want to watch a day or two in advance. And if you don't like watching on your computer there are ways to stream it to your TV - the stand-alone Roku unit, and now the Xbox. Both the PS3 and newer TiVo boxes will be getting the capability this month. And there are other providers besides Netflix, although I'm not sure how many of those will work to devices other than a computer. This presumes that you a) want to watch television, b) feel there's enough value there to pay for the equipment, and c) are willing to invest the time to use it. It starts falling apart for me at a). There's only a very few shows that I have any interest in (and *none* of them are sitcoms or so- called reality shows). Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
On Nov 27, 2008, at 3:55 AM, mike wilson wrote: My next site will have galleries based on flash presentation for a variety of reasons. I fully expect half of PDML will boycott it. Mark! (for the underestimation) LOL ... well, the website obviously isn't intended for the PDML Popularity Contest. That would be a waste of my time. ;-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
From: Marnie aka Doe Advertising isn't entertainment, unfortunately. Sometimes it is. But you don't need a TV for those. You can usually find the entertaining ones on You Tube. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: # of PDML Subscribers?
At least he's consistent... mike wilson wrote: From: John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/26 Wed PM 06:19:02 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: # of PDML Subscribers? From: Steve Desjardins Yo Pavol. OK, let's just count off. One. forty two That's your answer to everything, isn't it? - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
I won't buy from Adorama either. I'm strictly a BH customer. But a lot of newbies who are thinking about buying a camera for Christmas will sit down at the computer and start looking. Where to start? Maybe www.photo.net . OK, lots of photography stuff. And there's a camera store up there in the corner. Click. I'd bet dollars to donuts that it's working. Photo.net is a great buy for advertisers, because they own that million dollar URL. Paul On Nov 27, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I won't buy from Adorama anyway. Their service isn't great. :-) Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com On Nov 27, 2008, at 5:49 AM, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the Adorama advertising okay. It's not horribly intrusive, yet it gets noticed by most. I tend to mentally turn off my ad recognition mode when I'm just having fun on the web. When I'm working, on the other hand, I may go looking for ads. But I know how to leave it at the office:-). Paul On Nov 27, 2008, at 6:50 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/27 Thu AM 01:15:04 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Canadian Meteor If the advertising didn't work, it wouldn't be there. Web advertisers carefully record hits and compare them to sales. I'm not happy with the Adorama ads on photo.net, but I would guess they're working. Newbies who arrive at the site are probably looking for a place to buy equipment. Bingo: Adorama. And the prices are good. So a sale is made. The economy is tough these days. Everyone is struggling to survive. Marketers seize on any edge they can find. Could the Adorama tie-in backfire for photo.net? Possibly. But chances are, it will prove successful. The trick is to find the balance between noticeable, actionable and unintrusive. Right now, it's probably too intrusive, but not by much. It really doesn't bother me. Didn't even notice it at first. Er, but, well - it's an advert. And you are a pro in that world. It's not very _good_ then, is it? - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: Listen
Well the skill is certainly there, (but you already knew that I hate you), the actual low light response of the camera is very impressive. Now every time someone says that Pentax doesn't need a full frame sensor I can point to this. David Savage wrote: 2008/11/26 Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 11/24/08, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day All, http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/3055207349_a6e8a59b2c_o.jpg That's very nice. Love the composition and the guy in the background. Just one little nit - it seems your subject's left eye is in focus and for some reason I can't help but want it on the right eye. It's kinda odd how little things like that jump out at some of us but not others. Anyway, very nice. Thanks Scott. Compressing this for web has made the image look a little softer than it really si, but the left eye (his right) is the sharpest of the 2 (but only just). Here is a full sized version (~1.4mb): http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/_DSC5695.jpg Working with such shallow DOF trying to shoot a moving subject makes nailing down the focus point tricky. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
Those are great. Beer makes a lot of things possible, including good advertising. Paul On Nov 27, 2008, at 10:04 AM, David Savage wrote: I actually really like a good ad, the problem is most are crap. Here are 2 of my current fave's that are on the TV at the moment: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Z2gKT7B6Yfeature=related http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=_RqrdRqAr1Q Cheers, Dave 2008/11/27 David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok, i'm going against what seems to be a norm here, and say, i do like to watch TV. HOWEVER, since the invention of reality, yuck, TV, and the infomercial,, i find i am watching far less the past while. I like GOOD sitcoms, those from the 50's and 60's, and to watch hockey, baseball etc. I DO find myself, as soon a a station break comes on, run the gamat of channels until the commercials are over. If i want it i'l;l buy, dispite what Ed McMahon wants me to buy.:-) Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
So you won't buy from them, but you think it's a good idea that they strut their stuff as all the novices who go to photo.net might, and that advertising on photo.net is great to further this cause. My opinion: Bleck. HTD! G On Nov 27, 2008, at 8:08 AM, PN Stenquist wrote: I won't buy from Adorama either. I'm strictly a BH customer. But a lot of newbies who are thinking about buying a camera for Christmas will sit down at the computer and start looking. Where to start? Maybe www.photo.net. OK, lots of photography stuff. And there's a camera store up there in the corner. Click. I'd bet dollars to donuts that it's working. Photo.net is a great buy for advertisers, because they own that million dollar URL. On Nov 27, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I won't buy from Adorama anyway. Their service isn't great. :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Mumbi Terrorism
Subash, I thought of you as well... glad you are not _there_... I've just awoken and have not heard any news yet but things sounded a bit less grim at 1 am NY time according to CNN. What a world. ann Subash wrote: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:57:22 +1100 Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know how may PDMLers we have in India but Subash is certainly one. Foreigners seem to have been the main targets of todays' terrible events in Mumbai but, as in all cases like this, locals invariably get caught up in it. Subash (and any others in India), I'm sure all of us hope you are all safe and that calm will return soon. brian thanks for the concern... i am at the other eastern side of the country, but i do have a lot of friends in mumbai. but, as i write, terrorists are holed up in three five star hotels in mumbai, usually frequented by foreign tourists, holding an unknown number as hostages. the army has been called up, as have the NSG (the elite indian anti-terror squad). could be islamist terrorists. could be hindu militants. they are not letting out any details as operations are currently underway but already about a 100 dead. hoping for the best in the hours ahead, if there can be such a thing in such circumstances regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - More Chimping on the Tube
On Nov 26, 2008, at 1:09 PM, frank theriault wrote: I love subways. I'm sure a Freudian would have fun with that. I love what people do on subways - there's so much more room on a subway car than a bus or a streetcar (our city's term for trams) that people seem to engage in all manner of activities (both social and otherwise) that are more difficult to see (or photograph!) on other forms of public transit. This one's really no big whoop; part of the reason I posted it is that it was taken with the 18mm Zenitar fisheye, which as we all know turns into a semi-fisheye on an APS-sized sensor body, and we all know that a semi-fisheye is like semi-sex, but my feeling is that as semi-sex is better than no sex at all, so a semi-fisheye is better than nothing. Seriously, this is a fun lens. Hope you enjoy: http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2008/11/more-chimping-on-tube.html I like this one. Not sure about all the semi- stuff, though. ;-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
What's more, they're a lot longer than 30 seconds. Almost no one buys 60s any more. (That being said, half the commercials on my reel are 60s, but I'm a relic:-). I think the political incorrectness would pass muster for some advertisiers. Have you seen the VW commercials that poke fun at a woman for getting pregnant just so she could get a VW minivan? Or the Burger King ad where the guy is infuriated because a fussy woman in a car ahead in the drive through is asking for one little thing after another? (He pushes the offending car out of the way, tires smoking). Both are great ads, and they poke fun at females. And both get it done in thirty seconds, which is quite an achievement. They're both from the same ad agency: Crispin, Porter, Bogdonavich in Miami. A great shop. Of course I'm not sure that either of these commercials run in Canada. Paul On Nov 27, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Adam Maas wrote: Couple of great ads, but neither would ever make it to TV here in North America. They're insufficiently Politically Correct. -Adam On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:04 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually really like a good ad, the problem is most are crap. Here are 2 of my current fave's that are on the TV at the moment: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Z2gKT7B6Yfeature=related http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=_RqrdRqAr1Q Cheers, Dave 2008/11/27 David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok, i'm going against what seems to be a norm here, and say, i do like to watch TV. HOWEVER, since the invention of reality, yuck, TV, and the infomercial,, i find i am watching far less the past while. I like GOOD sitcoms, those from the 50's and 60's, and to watch hockey, baseball etc. I DO find myself, as soon a a station break comes on, run the gamat of channels until the commercials are over. If i want it i'l;l buy, dispite what Ed McMahon wants me to buy.:-) Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
I watch sports for the most part. The only series I try not to miss is Boston Legal. It's brilliantly written and has a stellar cast. But I believe this will be its last season. So I may watch only sports:-). Paul On Nov 27, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 26, 2008, at 7:45 PM, John Francis wrote: Rather an exaggeration. There are ways to watch TV that don't involve watching a show at the time of broadcast. They're not free, of course (except for shows streamed over the web from the major networks, but those are even worse - the ads come more frequently, and you can't skip over them). I haven't relied on live TV for decades - nowadays I have a couple of TiVos, but before that I used to timewshift using VCRs. And with the TiVos it's loss free - the recorded signal is bit-for- bit identical to the original signal when recording from a digital source (digital cable, over-the-air digital TV, or digital satellite service). Netflix offer streaming video, although not for much current stuff. But if you like to watch old TV shows it's a great adjunct to DVD rental; you don't need to decide what you want to watch a day or two in advance. And if you don't like watching on your computer there are ways to stream it to your TV - the stand-alone Roku unit, and now the Xbox. Both the PS3 and newer TiVo boxes will be getting the capability this month. And there are other providers besides Netflix, although I'm not sure how many of those will work to devices other than a computer. This presumes that you a) want to watch television, b) feel there's enough value there to pay for the equipment, and c) are willing to invest the time to use it. It starts falling apart for me at a). There's only a very few shows that I have any interest in (and *none* of them are sitcoms or so-called reality shows). Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
What, he has your phone number and you're afraid he'll call at some inconvenient time? frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 9:40 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, i'm going against what seems to be a norm here, snip There's only one Norm here, and he's been pretty quiet lately and I for one would prefer that it stay that way. Let's just leave him out of it, okay? ;-) cheers, frank -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
Do I think it's a good idea? I think this is a free society, and the marketplace is open to all. And, yes, they should make the ad buy that is most likely to help them achieve their goals. Paul On Nov 27, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: So you won't buy from them, but you think it's a good idea that they strut their stuff as all the novices who go to photo.net might, and that advertising on photo.net is great to further this cause. My opinion: Bleck. HTD! G On Nov 27, 2008, at 8:08 AM, PN Stenquist wrote: I won't buy from Adorama either. I'm strictly a BH customer. But a lot of newbies who are thinking about buying a camera for Christmas will sit down at the computer and start looking. Where to start? Maybe www.photo.net. OK, lots of photography stuff. And there's a camera store up there in the corner. Click. I'd bet dollars to donuts that it's working. Photo.net is a great buy for advertisers, because they own that million dollar URL. On Nov 27, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I won't buy from Adorama anyway. Their service isn't great. :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Name that bird
Well, yes, it is definitely ugly. Actually it well be used to illustrate an article about photo equipment curiosities. But lets vote the most beautiful film SLR for your eyes! (just the design of camera/lens, not it's technical level). My vote will go to... errr, I have to think a bit more :) BR, Margus P. J. Alling wrote: http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/chinon_set.jpg That's quite possibly the ugliest camera and lens combinations I've ever seen... Margus wrote: Hi there, I do collect old cameras. Can't help myself (even if I would like to...). Some weeks ago I got some items for my Chinon collection. Seller from German eBay sent me also one camera that I can not name. Manufacturer and model names have been brutally scratched off and painted over. Just Made in Japan on both body and winder. Maybe some of you can recognize it? http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/unknown.jpg Some technical specifications: K-bayonet Cloth shutter 8s...1/1000s Manual shutter speeds + AUTO mode (most probably Av) Power switch and electronic self timer are integrated. It's tthree-position switch, which is quite unusually placed at TOP panel, under the rewind knob.) DOF preview, manual ISO setting (25...3200), exposure compensation +/-2EV LED shutter speed indication, horizontal-split focusing screen w. microprism. 2x G13 batteries. If someone is interested: here's my Chinon CE-5 with Winder S and 50mm AF lens: http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/chinon_set.jpg BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Black Friday Pentax deals?
Hum, last I herd the Pentax 12-24 was pretty decent, and that doesn't cost anywhere near to $2000. The Tokina version might or might not be SMC but it has a pretty good reputation. I always considered 18mm pretty much ultra wide on 35mm. Adam Maas wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:15 AM, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage Nikon's DX lenses work on the D3/D700. Admittedly at a cropped resolution, but they do work. What's the point of shelling out the bucks for a full frame DSLR, if you're only going to be able to shoot cropped because the lenses won't cover the full frame? So you don't have to shell out an extra $2000 right away to get a good ultra-wide zoom. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
I think they'd do fine in Texas, and I bet there are worse in Mexico. Adam Maas wrote: Couple of great ads, but neither would ever make it to TV here in North America. They're insufficiently Politically Correct. -Adam On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:04 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually really like a good ad, the problem is most are crap. Here are 2 of my current fave's that are on the TV at the moment: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Z2gKT7B6Yfeature=related http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=_RqrdRqAr1Q Cheers, Dave 2008/11/27 David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok, i'm going against what seems to be a norm here, and say, i do like to watch TV. HOWEVER, since the invention of reality, yuck, TV, and the infomercial,, i find i am watching far less the past while. I like GOOD sitcoms, those from the 50's and 60's, and to watch hockey, baseball etc. I DO find myself, as soon a a station break comes on, run the gamat of channels until the commercials are over. If i want it i'l;l buy, dispite what Ed McMahon wants me to buy.:-) Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Right back at ya, Jack. :-) -Brendan --- Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'morning all, Because I was taught from an early age, it's impolite to type with my mouth full, let me extend a sincere wish that your day be filled with nature's bounty and, especially, true friends and loving family(ies). Best, Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shots of dancers, upcoming article
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a series for a magazine article about Myrna Galle, a local dance teacher. Myrna is a former soloist of the NYC Ballet and was a member of the Ballet Russe de Monte Carlo. She also coregraphed many Broadway shows and was the lead dancer in the touring show of The Music Man. Currently she teaches ballet at the Grass Valley Center for the Arts. I went down last Friday and photographed Myrna and the dancers in two separate classes. It was a challenge but it was a lot of fun. I had gone out the Friday before to scout the location and see what I was up against. Too high a ceiling in the first studio made wireless flash with umbrellas the best solution (pink walls weren't much help for bounce flash). A entire wall of mirrors in both studios allowed for shooting the dancers from their reflections, but keeping myself out of the shot when shooting toward the mirrors was tricky. This was easier in the second studio with a lower, white ceiling so I could use a camera mounted flash pointed up and backwards. K20, K10, (2x) 540 flashes + boosters, two stands with umbrellas, DA* 16-50, DA 10-17, A85 1.4, FA 31 ltd. http://www.primelensphoto.com/the_dancers/index.html I'm still futzing with these selects and editing them. Great stuff, Brendan!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Custom Machinist doing gods work...
The the adapter is quiet strong, made from the same stainless steel as the lens mounts on the cameras. I'd worry that those high quality lens mounts aren't attached directly to the camera frame but seem to be screwed into the plastic of the body. I don't think I'd carry anything heavier than a A* 300mm hang off the lens mount with any regularity. Walter Hamler wrote: Jim, I think that the 500mm that was modified was a screw mount lens. I know the one that I saw locally for sale is, and my big concern is all that weight hanging on a flimsy M-42 adapter. Walt What am I missing here? My Pentax K500/4.5 mounts just fine on both my K1000 film body and my K20D digital body, with no problem in focusing to infinity. Of course, focusing is manual unless I use my F1.7x AF Teleconverter behind the lens... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:19 AM, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watch sports for the most part. The only series I try not to miss is Boston Legal. It's brilliantly written and has a stellar cast. But I believe this will be its last season. So I may watch only sports:-). Its the original (Las Vegas) CSI we tend not to miss. Dave Paul On Nov 27, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 26, 2008, at 7:45 PM, John Francis wrote: Rather an exaggeration. There are ways to watch TV that don't involve watching a show at the time of broadcast. They're not free, of course (except for shows streamed over the web from the major networks, but those are even worse - the ads come more frequently, and you can't skip over them). I haven't relied on live TV for decades - nowadays I have a couple of TiVos, but before that I used to timewshift using VCRs. And with the TiVos it's loss free - the recorded signal is bit-for-bit identical to the original signal when recording from a digital source (digital cable, over-the-air digital TV, or digital satellite service). Netflix offer streaming video, although not for much current stuff. But if you like to watch old TV shows it's a great adjunct to DVD rental; you don't need to decide what you want to watch a day or two in advance. And if you don't like watching on your computer there are ways to stream it to your TV - the stand-alone Roku unit, and now the Xbox. Both the PS3 and newer TiVo boxes will be getting the capability this month. And there are other providers besides Netflix, although I'm not sure how many of those will work to devices other than a computer. This presumes that you a) want to watch television, b) feel there's enough value there to pay for the equipment, and c) are willing to invest the time to use it. It starts falling apart for me at a). There's only a very few shows that I have any interest in (and *none* of them are sitcoms or so-called reality shows). Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shots of dancers, upcoming article
Thanks, Frank. -Brendan --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a series for a magazine article about Myrna Galle, a local dance teacher. Myrna is a former soloist of the NYC Ballet and was a member of the Ballet Russe de Monte Carlo. She also coregraphed many Broadway shows and was the lead dancer in the touring show of The Music Man. Currently she teaches ballet at the Grass Valley Center for the Arts. I went down last Friday and photographed Myrna and the dancers in two separate classes. It was a challenge but it was a lot of fun. I had gone out the Friday before to scout the location and see what I was up against. Too high a ceiling in the first studio made wireless flash with umbrellas the best solution (pink walls weren't much help for bounce flash). A entire wall of mirrors in both studios allowed for shooting the dancers from their reflections, but keeping myself out of the shot when shooting toward the mirrors was tricky. This was easier in the second studio with a lower, white ceiling so I could use a camera mounted flash pointed up and backwards. K20, K10, (2x) 540 flashes + boosters, two stands with umbrellas, DA* 16-50, DA 10-17, A85 1.4, FA 31 ltd. http://www.primelensphoto.com/the_dancers/index.html I'm still futzing with these selects and editing them. Great stuff, Brendan!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Autumn Memories
From: mike wilson From: P. J. Alling They look like they could be oak leaves, which are full of tannins. That would stain the concrete and eventually be weathered away. What I find odd is that they are (presumably) quite water soluble, to be leached out of the leaf into the concrete by rain or dew but then they are not washed away from there. Very, very intriquing. The other possibility is that it is a wax covering that is somehow being transferred to the concrete and then resisting removal. Plant waxes are rather persistent chemicals - carnauba wax, found in many polishes until the advent of modern polymers, is/was extracted from the surface of leaves. Look like red maple leaves to me, but there are several different leaves that will leave stains like this. The surface of concrete, even smooth finished cement, is rather porous. When a leaf lays there and gets wet the stain seeps into the surface. This is especially true if the leaf is covered with something like snow and kept in contact with the surface for a while. But it's a seasonal thing that comes and goes. Keep an eye on that stain, and next spring/summer, UV light will bleach it back out and the cycle will start all over again next fall. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Same to you, Jack! And Everyone else on PDML. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 9:46 AM Subject: Happy Thanksgiving! G'morning all, Because I was taught from an early age, it's impolite to type with my mouth full, let me extend a sincere wish that your day be filled with nature's bounty and, especially, true friends and loving family(ies). Best, Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right back at ya, Jack. :-) Same here Dave -Brendan --- Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'morning all, Because I was taught from an early age, it's impolite to type with my mouth full, let me extend a sincere wish that your day be filled with nature's bounty and, especially, true friends and loving family(ies). Best, Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
Damn, those are funny... David Savage wrote: I actually really like a good ad, the problem is most are crap. Here are 2 of my current fave's that are on the TV at the moment: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Z2gKT7B6Yfeature=related http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=_RqrdRqAr1Q Cheers, Dave 2008/11/27 David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok, i'm going against what seems to be a norm here, and say, i do like to watch TV. HOWEVER, since the invention of reality, yuck, TV, and the infomercial,, i find i am watching far less the past while. I like GOOD sitcoms, those from the 50's and 60's, and to watch hockey, baseball etc. I DO find myself, as soon a a station break comes on, run the gamat of channels until the commercials are over. If i want it i'l;l buy, dispite what Ed McMahon wants me to buy.:-) Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
I hear it also makes potential sex partners more attractive. Just wear the goggles ... G On Nov 27, 2008, at 8:12 AM, PN Stenquist wrote: Those are great. Beer makes a lot of things possible, including good advertising. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Black Friday Pentax deals?
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that I expect them from our friendly Neighborhood Pentax marketing folks (it is still plural, surely), but are there any deals out there for the holidays? Amazon: Buy a Pentax K20D DSLR, Get a Free Optio A40 Digital Camera and Crossover Bag Through Monday, Dec. 1 http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=xs_gb_rss_74162/?docId=1000312591ccmID=380205 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
I've seen one or two episodes of Boston Legal while stuck in a motel room and too tired to read. Not bad. I'll pick up the series on DVD. Sports? on TV? Yuck. If I want to watch sports I go to the field or the race track. I catch an occasional motor racing event on the boob tube. Ball sports events on TV put me to sleep, they're more effective than sleeping pills. I prefer amateur sports events anyway ... pro sports is all about selling products and has little to do with what I value in sports. G On Nov 27, 2008, at 8:41 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:19 AM, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watch sports for the most part. The only series I try not to miss is Boston Legal. It's brilliantly written and has a stellar cast. But I believe this will be its last season. So I may watch only sports:-). Its the original (Las Vegas) CSI we tend not to miss. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: # of PDML Subscribers?
From: mike wilson From: John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/26 Wed PM 06:19:02 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: # of PDML Subscribers? From: Steve Desjardins Yo Pavol. OK, let's just count off. One. forty two That's your answer to everything, isn't it? forty two;-D In an economy crashing from decades of reliance on funny numbers, that, at least, is one you can still laugh at. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
From: David Savage I actually really like a good ad, the problem is most are crap. Here are 2 of my current fave's that are on the TV at the moment: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Z2gKT7B6Yfeature=related http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=_RqrdRqAr1Q You'll never see anything like those on U.S. TV ... for one thing, you're not allowed to show anyone actually drinking beer in the commercials on U.S. TV. Here, all you get is the GIECO gecko. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'morning all, Because I was taught from an early age, it's impolite to type with my mouth full, let me extend a sincere wish that your day be filled with nature's bounty and, especially, true friends and loving family(ies). Happy Thanksgiving to you, Jack, and to all my other American friends on this wonderful list. Even Cesar! ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Like my ol' First Sergeant used to say, It's a great day to be above ground. Hope all y'all have a good one, whether it's a holiday where you live or not. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Looking Outward for Inspiration?
I rather like the light in this one: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/11/looking-for-inspiration.html Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Name that bird
The Asahi Pentax Spotmatic. Simple straight forward elegant with clean lines no frills. Close second the LX with the FA2 finder. When you start to add accessory shoes to the prisms cameras begin to look more business like. and blocky in spite of what otherwise might be clean lines, well at least in my opinion. The Original Minolta SRT line of cameras were quite nice looking but in a more muscular fashon as were the Nikon's a bit too angular to be really beautiful though. Quite a few such as the OM-1 can only be described as jewel like. But for shear elegance you can't beat the original Spotmatic. I'm sometimes sorry I no longer have one. Margus wrote: Well, yes, it is definitely ugly. Actually it well be used to illustrate an article about photo equipment curiosities. But lets vote the most beautiful film SLR for your eyes! (just the design of camera/lens, not it's technical level). My vote will go to... errr, I have to think a bit more :) BR, Margus P. J. Alling wrote: http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/chinon_set.jpg That's quite possibly the ugliest camera and lens combinations I've ever seen... Margus wrote: Hi there, I do collect old cameras. Can't help myself (even if I would like to...). Some weeks ago I got some items for my Chinon collection. Seller from German eBay sent me also one camera that I can not name. Manufacturer and model names have been brutally scratched off and painted over. Just Made in Japan on both body and winder. Maybe some of you can recognize it? http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/unknown.jpg Some technical specifications: K-bayonet Cloth shutter 8s...1/1000s Manual shutter speeds + AUTO mode (most probably Av) Power switch and electronic self timer are integrated. It's tthree-position switch, which is quite unusually placed at TOP panel, under the rewind knob.) DOF preview, manual ISO setting (25...3200), exposure compensation +/-2EV LED shutter speed indication, horizontal-split focusing screen w. microprism. 2x G13 batteries. If someone is interested: here's my Chinon CE-5 with Winder S and 50mm AF lens: http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/chinon_set.jpg BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen one or two episodes of Boston Legal while stuck in a motel room and too tired to read. Not bad. I'll pick up the series on DVD. Sports? on TV? Yuck. If I want to watch sports I go to the field or the race track. To see a live Leaf game here in Toronto, one needs to sell a kidney or other vital organ, just to get nose bleed seats. I prefer to pee over going to the arena.:-) Dave I catch an occasional motor racing event on the boob tube. Ball sports events on TV put me to sleep, they're more effective than sleeping pills. I prefer amateur sports events anyway ... pro sports is all about selling products and has little to do with what I value in sports. G On Nov 27, 2008, at 8:41 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:19 AM, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watch sports for the most part. The only series I try not to miss is Boston Legal. It's brilliantly written and has a stellar cast. But I believe this will be its last season. So I may watch only sports:-). Its the original (Las Vegas) CSI we tend not to miss. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Looking Outward for Inspiration?
Well titled. Interior is well lit, and a very good catch. Dave On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:56 PM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I rather like the light in this one: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/11/looking-for-inspiration.html Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Black Friday Pentax deals?
And that's a crop lens. So it would be one of the ways of saving $2000 dollars by running in DX crop mode. It sucks at 18mm on FF (Been there, done that with the Tokina on an F100, it's not anything approaching a solution for FF use). Truly good ultra-wide zooms for F mount come down to the 14-24 f2.8 (the king of ultra-wide zoom performance on any mount right now, beats every prime in its range except the 21 Distagon) at $2k CDN and the 17-35 f2.8 AF-S which gets worse as it gets wider but is extremely good at 35mm. That's around $1500CDN new if you can actually find one. -Adam On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:24 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hum, last I herd the Pentax 12-24 was pretty decent, and that doesn't cost anywhere near to $2000. The Tokina version might or might not be SMC but it has a pretty good reputation. I always considered 18mm pretty much ultra wide on 35mm. Adam Maas wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:15 AM, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage Nikon's DX lenses work on the D3/D700. Admittedly at a cropped resolution, but they do work. What's the point of shelling out the bucks for a full frame DSLR, if you're only going to be able to shoot cropped because the lenses won't cover the full frame? So you don't have to shell out an extra $2000 right away to get a good ultra-wide zoom. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Looking Outward for Inspiration?
This one is interesting, Frank. You've got total darkness and total light. The gentleman in the chair sits right in the middle of the two; half in shadow, half in light. Nice. -Brendan --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I rather like the light in this one: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/11/looking-for-inspiration.html Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Looking Outward for Inspiration?
Normally the blown out window would have bothered me, it's just too much of the frame, but you got it two work for you. frank theriault wrote: I rather like the light in this one: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/11/looking-for-inspiration.html Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
David J Brooks wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen one or two episodes of Boston Legal while stuck in a motel room and too tired to read. Not bad. I'll pick up the series on DVD. Sports? on TV? Yuck. If I want to watch sports I go to the field or the race track. To see a live Leaf game here in Toronto, one needs to sell a kidney or other vital organ, just to get nose bleed seats. I prefer to pee over going to the arena.:-) Dave What? Hell Dave, you only _need_ /one/ kidney. I catch an occasional motor racing event on the boob tube. Ball sports events on TV put me to sleep, they're more effective than sleeping pills. I prefer amateur sports events anyway ... pro sports is all about selling products and has little to do with what I value in sports. G On Nov 27, 2008, at 8:41 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:19 AM, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watch sports for the most part. The only series I try not to miss is Boston Legal. It's brilliantly written and has a stellar cast. But I believe this will be its last season. So I may watch only sports:-). Its the original (Las Vegas) CSI we tend not to miss. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Mumbi Terrorism
Yes, fortunately it has been said in the news that Rabbi's toddler sun has been released in the morning. Subash wrote: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:41:00 +0200 Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately I just read in our local news that they've found 40 or so bodies in one of the hotels... Today is very sad day. possibly but not officially confirmed as the police have not released any figures or any other info in fact. counter operations are still going on. what is known is that at the two hotels the terrorists are holding an unspecified number of people hostages. and the hostages at Nariman House includes a Rabbi and his wife... http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080074267 still hoping for the best -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Name that bird
MX forever! Dario (Small) size matters. Margus wrote: Well, yes, it is definitely ugly. Actually it well be used to illustrate an article about photo equipment curiosities. But lets vote the most beautiful film SLR for your eyes! (just the design of camera/lens, not it's technical level). My vote will go to... errr, I have to think a bit more :) BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
On 26/11/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: the next time I'm in England, I hope I can buy you a pint and toast A pint and a pie would be better - yes I know, those silly Brits and their warm beer, 'n shit ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
On 26/11/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Sure, Mr. AllMyTextIsWeenieLittleGifsThatAreImp ossibleToReadOnaBigMonitorButThat'sFineBecauseIuseAMacAndThatMakesMeSpecial. LOL Love it. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 07:53:51AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 26, 2008, at 7:45 PM, John Francis wrote: Rather an exaggeration. There are ways to watch TV that don't involve watching a show at the time of broadcast. They're not free, of course (except for shows streamed over the web from the major networks, but those are even worse - the ads come more frequently, and you can't skip over them). I haven't relied on live TV for decades - nowadays I have a couple of TiVos, but before that I used to timewshift using VCRs. And with the TiVos it's loss free - the recorded signal is bit-for-bit identical to the original signal when recording from a digital source (digital cable, over-the-air digital TV, or digital satellite service). Netflix offer streaming video, although not for much current stuff. But if you like to watch old TV shows it's a great adjunct to DVD rental; you don't need to decide what you want to watch a day or two in advance. And if you don't like watching on your computer there are ways to stream it to your TV - the stand-alone Roku unit, and now the Xbox. Both the PS3 and newer TiVo boxes will be getting the capability this month. And there are other providers besides Netflix, although I'm not sure how many of those will work to devices other than a computer. This presumes that you a) want to watch television, b) feel there's enough value there to pay for the equipment, and c) are willing to invest the time to use it. It starts falling apart for me at a). There's only a very few shows that I have any interest in (and *none* of them are sitcoms or so-called reality shows). Well, obviously. And if your idea of the TV universe is limited to the realm of sitcoms or reality shows then it probably isn't worth it to you. (Not that *all* sitcoms are bad - I do watch How I Met Your Mother). Other people have already mentioned a couple of the good drama shows (the original CSI, Boston Legal). There's a whole bunch more, too. I don't watch much sports - none, really, except for motorsports and cycling (and the Americas Cup when it comes around). But that's still only just scratching the surface. And if you want independent, up-to- the minute news coverage that isn't filtered through blinkers there's not really a lot of choice other than TV (and not the big networks). As for equipment costs - I've paid a lot less for my TiVos, etc., than I have just on digital camera bodies, and I certainly use them more. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Name that bird
I think the Olympus OM-1 actually looked nicer than the MX On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 07:40:17PM +0100, Dario Bonazza wrote: MX forever! Dario (Small) size matters. Margus wrote: Well, yes, it is definitely ugly. Actually it well be used to illustrate an article about photo equipment curiosities. But lets vote the most beautiful film SLR for your eyes! (just the design of camera/lens, not it's technical level). My vote will go to... errr, I have to think a bit more :) BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: # of PDML Subscribers?
Joseph McAllister wrote: OK. Another 90 minutes out of my ever shortening life. I went through the month of November and compared it to my address book. Now I have 111 cards. It should be illegal for people to have single names, or 'handles', that differ from their real names. And using only lower case letters... annsan. :-) But I got it done. hehe -- just fyi, btw... annsan was my logon years ago when I was writing specs... A former colleague and beau dubbed me that... the lower case is, of course, unix talk - but also a nod to e.e. cummings. Unless you are on aol, at least, my full name shows on the from... the only thing i regret about it is that there is some other annsan somewhere on line which prevented me from using it in one environment...and my having to repeat it when giving someone my email address on the phone or , for thatmatter,my full name. With less that perfect connections all the n's become m's , the s's turn to 'f's or the other way around. I hope that people who add me to their address book on line do not ever put anything there but my email address and name. I hope never to have my email and street address in someone's computer address book... especially if they are using outlook or are on aol. paranoid annsan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
