Re: Mounting, displaying and selling photos

[John Francis]

> 
> Larry Colen Fri, 02 Jun 2017 14:55:46 -0700 wrote:
> 
> One problem with not being an artist is that I don't know squat about
> displaying and selling my photos. I tend to carry them around in an itoya
> portfolio book updating the selection as I go. I was talking with some
> friends who have a shop in town that sells art and ukuleles about them
> trying to sell some of my photos. I've also thought that at some point I
> should put together some pieces to show.
> 
> 
> Pat and Julie told me that you can't just sell prints, they need to be
> mounted well enough that people can just hang them on the wall.
> 
> 
> Can people give me pointers to cost effective ways of going about this? I
> tried stopping by the local art store, but most of my prints are 12x18 or
> 4x6 and they simply don't have much that work with those form factors.

Golden State Art in South San Francisco have 16x20 mats pre-cut for 12x18.
They'll sell you a pack of 100 for $153 (if you want either black or white),
or they'll custom cut 16x20 mats for $2.89 each (minimum quantity 10)
if you want something other than the standard 11.5 x 17.5 cutout.
They also offer a matboard + backing + re-sealable clear bag for $3.35

For 6x4 they have 5x7 pre-cut mats (200 for $49.50 - now on sale for $37).

They'll also sell you backing board, foam board, or just about anything
to do with framing.  If it's the place I think it is, I bought some mats
from them many years ago, but couldn't remember the name of the company.
Fortunately I had a rough idea where they were located, and that, plus
a bit of Google searching, eventually came up with Golden State Art.

Once I get around to printing, I expect I'll be patronising them again.


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Question about video-editing software

[Igor PDML-StR]

I wonder what software people are using for editing videos (on Windows),
preferably free or inexpensive.
I've been using Avidemux that is very powerful for trans-coding, 
adjustments (brightness/contrast/WB/noise), etc. (including some batch 
processing).
But what is missing in Avidemux is transitions between pieces, such as 
fading, various types of moving-boundary transitions (linear, 
circular, checker-board) between the two, etc, as well as 
possibility to add frames with just text. All these capabilities are 
available in Youtube video editor, which I've been using in the past, but 
I'd like to be able to do that locally.

Ability to add some still photos to a video would be a plus.


Cotty is probably the biggest expert here in this area, and at first,
I was going to send this message just to him. But I am afraid he is 
using too much of specialized software that is an overkill for me 
(function- and price-wise). So, if somebody else has additional 
information, I'd appreciate those suggestions too.


Thank you!

Igor


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Question: metallic paper with printable second side

[Igor PDML-StR]

Hi All,

I've been in a quiet mode, being busy with other things that all came 
around the end of the academic year. I've barely managed to submit quickly 
for the elevated PUG ("mountains") a photo that I've been thinking about 
for a while. It is not anything special, but something in it keeps 
attracting my attention.



I also realized that I am running low on certain kinds of printing paper.
While choosing what I need, I've got a question about something  I am not 
sure exists:
Has anybody seen any metallic photo paper that has both sides printable 
(albeit only one is metallic)?


Thank you,

Igor


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Re: Mounting, displaying and selling photos

[Igor PDML-StR]

Larry,

I would recommend looking at the following sources of frames (and mats):
1. Aaron Brothers. - they probably have the best choice (best 
looking, and most diverse choice), but it might not be the cheapest 
(although still much cheaper than a custom-made frame)


2. Michaels is somewhat cheaper (especially if you are catching their 
sales), but it might be harder to find the size (and the look) you need. 
8x12 is particularly tough.
(When I lived in the areas with easy access to Aaron Brothers, I had hard 
time forcing myself walking into Michaels, despite a considerable price 
difference.)


Both Aaron Brothers and Michaels sell pre-cut mats at very reasonable 
prices. In most cases, I mount my photos with mats, sometimes opting for 
double-mats (sometimes with contrasted colors).

I would definitely recommend doing that for 4"x6".

I haven't bought these supplies for a while, - so, I don't know if places 
like amazon and ebay (or some on-line craft stores) would have better 
prices.



3. Ikea - has fairly inexpensive (and "fresh"-looking) frames, but the 
sizes are limited, and might not be what you are looking for.


4. Stores like Marshalls, T.J. Maxx, Brooks Outlet, Tuesday Morning, 
sometimes have some reasonably priced frames, but in "small-ish" sizes: 
4x6, 5x7, 8x10, Letter.


5. If you are considering prints on canvas, specialized art-supply stores 
have some broad choice of sizes of sides that you can choose to make the 
right size of a stretcher. Or, they (and cheaper - Michaels) - have some 
standard size pre-built stretchers (stretcher kits).

Also, art-supply stores have a nice media to mount photos on: foam board
(about 2-3 mm-thick, probably 1/8") that have one side "self-adhesive". 
I've mounted a few photos on such a board (you cut the size you need).


Overall, I recommend taking the prints you want to mount with you to the 
store. In some cases, while choosing the frame, I'd print to a smaller 
(4x6) size, - just to find which frame would match the look, and to figure 
out what size I'd want to print to.
Go to Aaron Brothers, and play with a combination of pre-cut mats, frames, 
and your photos.
You can also try going to a framing shop, as they have a variety of frame 
samples that you can put around your photo, - just to figure out which 
look you want to achieve, and then to try finding that at one of the 
stores discussed above.



HTH,

Igor



Larry Colen Fri, 02 Jun 2017 14:55:46 -0700 wrote:

One problem with not being an artist is that I don't know squat about 
displaying and selling my photos. I tend to carry them around in an itoya 
portfolio book updating the selection as I go. I was talking with some 
friends who have a shop in town that sells art and ukuleles about them 
trying to sell some of my photos. I've also thought that at some point I 
should put together some pieces to show.



Pat and Julie told me that you can't just sell prints, they need to be 
mounted well enough that people can just hang them on the wall.



Can people give me pointers to cost effective ways of going about this? I 
tried stopping by the local art store, but most of my prints are 12x18 or 
4x6 and they simply don't have much that work with those form factors.




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Re: Stuck Battery In Pentax Q

[Mark C]

If the freezer doesn't shrink the battery I might try this approach, 
though I think I'd prefer Paul's idea re gluing a handle to the battery. 
The problem with that approach is that the battery surface is small and 
a miscalculation on the amount of glue would probably just glue it in place.


I can see setting up a piece of plexiglass between my face and the 
battery - mounting the plexi with plastic spring clamps that could 
easily be mounted onto a tripod. Heavy leather leather gloves for my 
hands and  maybe a couple wet towels on my arms while doing the drilling 
and inserting screws might cover things.


Only concern is with the battery exploding. You mention that the battery 
might explode if not vented - given that the battery is enclosed on 5 
sides by the Q's battery compartment, I assume there is a chance of it 
exploding with the exposed side (what I would be drilling into) being 
the vector for the blast. That does not sound appealing.


I'll think about it. I watched some videos of people blowing up lithium 
batteries and was surprised at how forceful they can be. But these were 
folks dropping the batteries in front of blow torches. But buying a 
replacement camera for $150 or just selling off my lenses and exiting 
the system may be better options.


I hope it just shrinks in the cold overnight.

Mark

On 6/2/2017 7:33 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

Ouch, you're between a rock and a hard place there. If it was me I
would take the brutal approach, the battery is toast so I would opt to
destroy the battery however there is a danger to it. If you open the
battery and it gets sufficient oxygen even if discharged it can
spontaneously combust (burn, not generally explode if there is a
vent).

I would take it outside and bring a drill, electric screw driver, a
screw with good deep thread, a pair of robust pliers and a drill bit
slightly smaller than the screw. Drill into the battery, quickly screw
the screw in and yank the lot out. Otherwise send it in for service
(where they would very likely do exactly the same thing).



On 3 June 2017 at 08:20, Mark C  wrote:

Thanks, Paul - sounds like it might work.


On 6/2/2017 5:55 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

You might be able to attach a handle of sorts with two/part epoxy. I would
rough up the battery surface a bit first.

Paul via phone


On Jun 2, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Mark C  wrote:

Jostein's post motivated me to pull out my Pentax Q, which has been
sitting in the bag for some time. The third party battery that is installed
in it appears to have swollen and is stuck tight. Anybody know any tricks to
removing a swollen battery?

The battery is pressed very firmly against the sides of the chamber but
has a label that wraps around the two large sides and the back. I was able
to get a needle under the label so I have something that will let me pull on
it, but it seems to be wedged in tight and the label is not so strong. Here
is a photo of the battery with needle under the label:


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/pentax-q-stuck-battery?blog=9

I can tied some fishing line around each end of the needle to get a
straight pull on the battery - its a little difficult to get leverage while
holding the latch in the open position.

Given how tightly its stuck I'm wondering if there is a way to get it to
shrink, at least temporarily. I stuck it in the freezer for an hour or so
hoping it would shrink, but so far no luck. I'll leave it in there
overnight. From what I read people freeze laptop batteries on the belief
that it gives them new life (learn something every day) and it sounds like
freezing the battery is safe. But otherwise litihium batteries require some
caution, so sinking a small screw into it to get enough leverage to pull it
out is not an option.

A used body would probably cost less than a repair, so going to the shop
is not an option.

Any suggestions?

Mark



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Re: Stuck Battery In Pentax Q

[P. J. Alling]

If it were anything other than a lithium battery I'd suggest drilling a 
small relief hole in the battery base.  That might relieve some pressure 
and allow the battery to shrink a bit. However releasing the stuff 
inside a lithium battery is probably one of the worst things you could 
do for your immediate environment.



On 6/2/2017 5:46 PM, Mark C wrote:
Jostein's post motivated me to pull out my Pentax Q, which has been 
sitting in the bag for some time. The third party battery that is 
installed in it appears to have swollen and is stuck tight. Anybody 
know any tricks to removing a swollen battery?


The battery is pressed very firmly against the sides of the chamber 
but has a label that wraps around the two large sides and the back. I 
was able to get a needle under the label so I have something that will 
let me pull on it, but it seems to be wedged in tight and the label is 
not so strong. Here is a photo of the battery with needle under the 
label:


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/pentax-q-stuck-battery?blog=9 



I can tied some fishing line around each end of the needle to get a 
straight pull on the battery - its a little difficult to get leverage 
while holding the latch in the open position.


Given how tightly its stuck I'm wondering if there is a way to get it 
to shrink, at least temporarily. I stuck it in the freezer for an hour 
or so hoping it would shrink, but so far no luck. I'll leave it in 
there overnight. From what I read people freeze laptop batteries on 
the belief that it gives them new life (learn something every day) and 
it sounds like freezing the battery is safe. But otherwise litihium 
batteries require some caution, so sinking a small screw into it to 
get enough leverage to pull it out is not an option.


A used body would probably cost less than a repair, so going to the 
shop is not an option.


Any suggestions?

Mark






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Re: Stuck Battery In Pentax Q

[Paul Stenquist]

I would probably go Rob's way, wearing safety goggles. Would be nice if you had 
a face mask like drag racing funny car drivers wear. But I would guess you will 
experience no serious problems.

Paul via phone

> On Jun 2, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Rob Studdert  wrote:
> 
> Ouch, you're between a rock and a hard place there. If it was me I
> would take the brutal approach, the battery is toast so I would opt to
> destroy the battery however there is a danger to it. If you open the
> battery and it gets sufficient oxygen even if discharged it can
> spontaneously combust (burn, not generally explode if there is a
> vent).
> 
> I would take it outside and bring a drill, electric screw driver, a
> screw with good deep thread, a pair of robust pliers and a drill bit
> slightly smaller than the screw. Drill into the battery, quickly screw
> the screw in and yank the lot out. Otherwise send it in for service
> (where they would very likely do exactly the same thing).
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3 June 2017 at 08:20, Mark C  wrote:
>> Thanks, Paul - sounds like it might work.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/2/2017 5:55 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> 
>>> You might be able to attach a handle of sorts with two/part epoxy. I would
>>> rough up the battery surface a bit first.
>>> 
>>> Paul via phone
>>> 
 On Jun 2, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Mark C  wrote:
 
 Jostein's post motivated me to pull out my Pentax Q, which has been
 sitting in the bag for some time. The third party battery that is installed
 in it appears to have swollen and is stuck tight. Anybody know any tricks 
 to
 removing a swollen battery?
 
 The battery is pressed very firmly against the sides of the chamber but
 has a label that wraps around the two large sides and the back. I was able
 to get a needle under the label so I have something that will let me pull 
 on
 it, but it seems to be wedged in tight and the label is not so strong. Here
 is a photo of the battery with needle under the label:
 
 
 http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/pentax-q-stuck-battery?blog=9
 
 I can tied some fishing line around each end of the needle to get a
 straight pull on the battery - its a little difficult to get leverage while
 holding the latch in the open position.
 
 Given how tightly its stuck I'm wondering if there is a way to get it to
 shrink, at least temporarily. I stuck it in the freezer for an hour or so
 hoping it would shrink, but so far no luck. I'll leave it in there
 overnight. From what I read people freeze laptop batteries on the belief
 that it gives them new life (learn something every day) and it sounds like
 freezing the battery is safe. But otherwise litihium batteries require some
 caution, so sinking a small screw into it to get enough leverage to pull it
 out is not an option.
 
 A used body would probably cost less than a repair, so going to the shop
 is not an option.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Mark
 
 
 
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Re: Stuck Battery In Pentax Q

[Rob Studdert]

Ouch, you're between a rock and a hard place there. If it was me I
would take the brutal approach, the battery is toast so I would opt to
destroy the battery however there is a danger to it. If you open the
battery and it gets sufficient oxygen even if discharged it can
spontaneously combust (burn, not generally explode if there is a
vent).

I would take it outside and bring a drill, electric screw driver, a
screw with good deep thread, a pair of robust pliers and a drill bit
slightly smaller than the screw. Drill into the battery, quickly screw
the screw in and yank the lot out. Otherwise send it in for service
(where they would very likely do exactly the same thing).



On 3 June 2017 at 08:20, Mark C  wrote:
> Thanks, Paul - sounds like it might work.
>
>
> On 6/2/2017 5:55 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>> You might be able to attach a handle of sorts with two/part epoxy. I would
>> rough up the battery surface a bit first.
>>
>> Paul via phone
>>
>>> On Jun 2, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Mark C  wrote:
>>>
>>> Jostein's post motivated me to pull out my Pentax Q, which has been
>>> sitting in the bag for some time. The third party battery that is installed
>>> in it appears to have swollen and is stuck tight. Anybody know any tricks to
>>> removing a swollen battery?
>>>
>>> The battery is pressed very firmly against the sides of the chamber but
>>> has a label that wraps around the two large sides and the back. I was able
>>> to get a needle under the label so I have something that will let me pull on
>>> it, but it seems to be wedged in tight and the label is not so strong. Here
>>> is a photo of the battery with needle under the label:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/pentax-q-stuck-battery?blog=9
>>>
>>> I can tied some fishing line around each end of the needle to get a
>>> straight pull on the battery - its a little difficult to get leverage while
>>> holding the latch in the open position.
>>>
>>> Given how tightly its stuck I'm wondering if there is a way to get it to
>>> shrink, at least temporarily. I stuck it in the freezer for an hour or so
>>> hoping it would shrink, but so far no luck. I'll leave it in there
>>> overnight. From what I read people freeze laptop batteries on the belief
>>> that it gives them new life (learn something every day) and it sounds like
>>> freezing the battery is safe. But otherwise litihium batteries require some
>>> caution, so sinking a small screw into it to get enough leverage to pull it
>>> out is not an option.
>>>
>>> A used body would probably cost less than a repair, so going to the shop
>>> is not an option.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
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Re: Stuck Battery In Pentax Q

[Mark C]

Thanks, Paul - sounds like it might work.

On 6/2/2017 5:55 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

You might be able to attach a handle of sorts with two/part epoxy. I would 
rough up the battery surface a bit first.

Paul via phone


On Jun 2, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Mark C  wrote:

Jostein's post motivated me to pull out my Pentax Q, which has been sitting in 
the bag for some time. The third party battery that is installed in it appears 
to have swollen and is stuck tight. Anybody know any tricks to removing a 
swollen battery?

The battery is pressed very firmly against the sides of the chamber but has a 
label that wraps around the two large sides and the back. I was able to get a 
needle under the label so I have something that will let me pull on it, but it 
seems to be wedged in tight and the label is not so strong. Here is a photo of 
the battery with needle under the label:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/pentax-q-stuck-battery?blog=9

I can tied some fishing line around each end of the needle to get a straight 
pull on the battery - its a little difficult to get leverage while holding the 
latch in the open position.

Given how tightly its stuck I'm wondering if there is a way to get it to 
shrink, at least temporarily. I stuck it in the freezer for an hour or so 
hoping it would shrink, but so far no luck. I'll leave it in there overnight. 
From what I read people freeze laptop batteries on the belief that it gives 
them new life (learn something every day) and it sounds like freezing the 
battery is safe. But otherwise litihium batteries require some caution, so 
sinking a small screw into it to get enough leverage to pull it out is not an 
option.

A used body would probably cost less than a repair, so going to the shop is not 
an option.

Any suggestions?

Mark



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Re: Stuck Battery In Pentax Q

[Mark C]

The short sides are stuck as well. All I can do is get a small needle 
down the corners, where the battery is slightly rounded but the 
compartment is square, but that doesn't allow for any leverage.


On 6/2/2017 5:54 PM, Jostein Øksne wrote:

Ouch.
Did you try a pair of needles or pointy blades to its short sides to lever it 
out?
Jostein

Den 2. juni 2017 23.46.47 CEST, skrev Mark C :

Jostein's post motivated me to pull out my Pentax Q, which has been
sitting in the bag for some time. The third party battery that is
installed in it appears to have swollen and is stuck tight. Anybody
know
any tricks to removing a swollen battery?

The battery is pressed very firmly against the sides of the chamber but

has a label that wraps around the two large sides and the back. I was
able to get a needle under the label so I have something that will let
me pull on it, but it seems to be wedged in tight and the label is not
so strong. Here is a photo of the battery with needle under the label:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/pentax-q-stuck-battery?blog=9

I can tied some fishing line around each end of the needle to get a
straight pull on the battery - its a little difficult to get leverage
while holding the latch in the open position.

Given how tightly its stuck I'm wondering if there is a way to get it
to
shrink, at least temporarily. I stuck it in the freezer for an hour or
so hoping it would shrink, but so far no luck. I'll leave it in there
overnight. From what I read people freeze laptop batteries on the
belief
that it gives them new life (learn something every day) and it sounds
like freezing the battery is safe. But otherwise litihium batteries
require some caution, so sinking a small screw into it to get enough
leverage to pull it out is not an option.

A used body would probably cost less than a repair, so going to the
shop
is not an option.

Any suggestions?

Mark




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Re: Anyone else with Q7?

[Jostein Øksne]

Thanks Toine!
Actually I had to order the Q/K adapter from B, so I ordered the wide angle 
too while at it. :-) 
Now I really look forward to testing it.
Jostein 

Den 2. juni 2017 22.46.24 CEST, skrev Toine :
>Yes Q7 and a Q-S1 and all the lenses. You'll want the 08 wide zoom
>
>Toine
>
>On 1 June 2017 at 19:29, Jostein Øksne  wrote:
>> Picked up a Q7 kit today that came at an irresistible price. Any
>other users here?
>> Jostein
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Re: Stuck Battery In Pentax Q

[Paul Stenquist]

You might be able to attach a handle of sorts with two/part epoxy. I would 
rough up the battery surface a bit first.

Paul via phone

> On Jun 2, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> 
> Jostein's post motivated me to pull out my Pentax Q, which has been sitting 
> in the bag for some time. The third party battery that is installed in it 
> appears to have swollen and is stuck tight. Anybody know any tricks to 
> removing a swollen battery?
> 
> The battery is pressed very firmly against the sides of the chamber but has a 
> label that wraps around the two large sides and the back. I was able to get a 
> needle under the label so I have something that will let me pull on it, but 
> it seems to be wedged in tight and the label is not so strong. Here is a 
> photo of the battery with needle under the label:
> 
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/pentax-q-stuck-battery?blog=9
> 
> I can tied some fishing line around each end of the needle to get a straight 
> pull on the battery - its a little difficult to get leverage while holding 
> the latch in the open position.
> 
> Given how tightly its stuck I'm wondering if there is a way to get it to 
> shrink, at least temporarily. I stuck it in the freezer for an hour or so 
> hoping it would shrink, but so far no luck. I'll leave it in there overnight. 
> From what I read people freeze laptop batteries on the belief that it gives 
> them new life (learn something every day) and it sounds like freezing the 
> battery is safe. But otherwise litihium batteries require some caution, so 
> sinking a small screw into it to get enough leverage to pull it out is not an 
> option.
> 
> A used body would probably cost less than a repair, so going to the shop is 
> not an option.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Stuck Battery In Pentax Q

[Jostein Øksne]

Ouch.
Did you try a pair of needles or pointy blades to its short sides to lever it 
out?
Jostein 

Den 2. juni 2017 23.46.47 CEST, skrev Mark C :
>Jostein's post motivated me to pull out my Pentax Q, which has been 
>sitting in the bag for some time. The third party battery that is 
>installed in it appears to have swollen and is stuck tight. Anybody
>know 
>any tricks to removing a swollen battery?
>
>The battery is pressed very firmly against the sides of the chamber but
>
>has a label that wraps around the two large sides and the back. I was 
>able to get a needle under the label so I have something that will let 
>me pull on it, but it seems to be wedged in tight and the label is not 
>so strong. Here is a photo of the battery with needle under the label:
>
>http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/pentax-q-stuck-battery?blog=9
>
>I can tied some fishing line around each end of the needle to get a 
>straight pull on the battery - its a little difficult to get leverage 
>while holding the latch in the open position.
>
>Given how tightly its stuck I'm wondering if there is a way to get it
>to 
>shrink, at least temporarily. I stuck it in the freezer for an hour or 
>so hoping it would shrink, but so far no luck. I'll leave it in there 
>overnight. From what I read people freeze laptop batteries on the
>belief 
>that it gives them new life (learn something every day) and it sounds 
>like freezing the battery is safe. But otherwise litihium batteries 
>require some caution, so sinking a small screw into it to get enough 
>leverage to pull it out is not an option.
>
>A used body would probably cost less than a repair, so going to the
>shop 
>is not an option.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Mark

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Mounting, displaying and selling photos

[Larry Colen]

One problem with not being an artist is that I don't know squat about 
displaying and selling my photos.  I tend to carry them around in an 
itoya portfolio book updating the selection as I go.  I was talking with 
some friends who have a shop in town that sells art and ukuleles about 
them trying to sell some of my photos.  I've also thought that at some 
point I should put together some pieces to show.


Pat and Julie told me that you can't just sell prints, they need to be 
mounted well enough that people can just hang them on the wall.


Can people give me pointers to cost effective ways of going about this? 
 I tried stopping by the local art store, but most of my prints are 
12x18 or 4x6 and they simply don't have much that work with those form 
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Stuck Battery In Pentax Q

[Mark C]

Jostein's post motivated me to pull out my Pentax Q, which has been 
sitting in the bag for some time. The third party battery that is 
installed in it appears to have swollen and is stuck tight. Anybody know 
any tricks to removing a swollen battery?


The battery is pressed very firmly against the sides of the chamber but 
has a label that wraps around the two large sides and the back. I was 
able to get a needle under the label so I have something that will let 
me pull on it, but it seems to be wedged in tight and the label is not 
so strong. Here is a photo of the battery with needle under the label:


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/pentax-q-stuck-battery?blog=9

I can tied some fishing line around each end of the needle to get a 
straight pull on the battery - its a little difficult to get leverage 
while holding the latch in the open position.


Given how tightly its stuck I'm wondering if there is a way to get it to 
shrink, at least temporarily. I stuck it in the freezer for an hour or 
so hoping it would shrink, but so far no luck. I'll leave it in there 
overnight. From what I read people freeze laptop batteries on the belief 
that it gives them new life (learn something every day) and it sounds 
like freezing the battery is safe. But otherwise litihium batteries 
require some caution, so sinking a small screw into it to get enough 
leverage to pull it out is not an option.


A used body would probably cost less than a repair, so going to the shop 
is not an option.


Any suggestions?

Mark



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Re: PESO - fiddle study 3

[mike wilson]

> On 02 June 2017 at 19:17 Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> Chris Mitchell wrote:
> > Very nice Bruce. Musical instruments and bodies go well together. Well, not
> > banjos maybe, but most.
> 
> You've obviously never looked at my body in profile.

You only need to worry when they start whispering "crumhorn" behind your back.

> > On 31 May 2017 16:24, "Bruce Walker"  wrote:
> >
> >> Possibly nsfw content, but rather abstract.
> >>
> >> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IJBHEGfRtYkE
> >>
> >> 645z, 55mm/2.8

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Re: Anyone else with Q7?

[Toine]

Yes Q7 and a Q-S1 and all the lenses. You'll want the 08 wide zoom

Toine

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> Picked up a Q7 kit today that came at an irresistible price. Any other users 
> here?
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Re: Anyone else with Q7?

[Mark C]

I thought the same thing but was not able to get stacked images that 
were as good as APS-C work, but I was just getting started with focus 
stacking when I experimented with it and gave up on the Q quickly.


The issues I ran into were that that Q's sensor, even at ISO, if fairly 
noisy and focus stacking compound noise. Working with flash and a 3rd 
party Q to K converter was problematic because the electronic shutter 
defaults to a sync speed of 1/30th. Too slow to help eliminate 
vibrations. But an official Pentax Q to K converter might help with 
that, since it has a built in leaf shutter.


Good luck -

Mark

On 6/2/2017 1:01 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:

Mark,
Very happy to read your considerations about macro. I had thoughts along 
similar lines, but actually for extreme macro studio work. Controlling 
vibration at 4X and beyond can be a pain. A setup that requires less 
magnification to fill the frame could be a good thing if the image quality is 
good enough. And the central shutter design and faster flash sync speed could 
also help reducing vibrations.

This could be fun. :-)

Jostein

Den 2. juni 2017 01.11.20 CEST, skrev Mark C :

I have the original Q, not the Q7. It's a fun system though I haven't
used mine in a long time. Back in the days when I traveled for my job I

took the Q kit on the road with me -camera , fisheye, normal zoom and
tele-zoom - a small, light but versatile kit.

And as an update to the copy of this reply that I accidentally sent
directly to you -  the IQ is decent, more than adequate for web based
images and good enough for smaller prints, though its best to keep the
ISO as low as possible. The Q7 sensor is about 50% larger than the
original Q in terms of surface area, so the IQ should be a bit better.

IMO - one niche for the Q is for macro in the field. Let's say you have

a gnat that is 6mm from head to toe and you want a photo of it as you
are hiking along. Pull out the Q, put on a K to Q adapter and a 1:1
macro lens, shoot at f2.8 to f5.6. Very easy setup to carry and deploy
and at f 2.8 to f5.6 you could probably keep the ISO fairly low and
have
decent DOF  but some diffraction limit on sharpness.  But on APS-C or
full frame the gnat would need 4x to 6x magnification. Not so easy for
field work.  For this kind of macro work, the Q / Q7 can let you get a
decent shot (not great) where you are not likely to get any shot at all

using APS-C or full frame.

Mark

On 6/1/2017 1:29 PM, Jostein Øksne wrote:

Picked up a Q7 kit today that came at an irresistible price. Any

other users here?

Jostein




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Re: 600mm lens question

[Gonz]

Yeah, there is a 400mm ED/IF 67 on ebay right now for $500, not bad.


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> that the 600mm is softer so it might not be so hot on a smaller
> sensor. The price is pretty good on those though.
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Re: 600mm lens question

[Igor PDML-StR]

A few years ago, probably yet before the digital version of 645 came out, 
I was thinking similar thoughts about adapting lenses from the medium 
format to an APS-C (K-7 or K-5).
Someone (I suspect it may have been Bill here) pointed out that the 
resolution at which the medium-format lenses were built (at least during 
the film era) is not on par to what you'd like with a modern APS-C 
sensor... I suspect a similar thought might be used for K-1.


Igor


Gonz Fri, 02 Jun 2017 10:07:50 -0700 wrote:

Anybody ever mounted a 67 600mm/4 lens on a K body?  Results?



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Re: PESO - fiddle study 3

[Larry Colen]

Chris Mitchell wrote:

Very nice Bruce. Musical instruments and bodies go well together. Well, not
banjos maybe, but most.


You've obviously never looked at my body in profile.




Chris

On 31 May 2017 16:24, "Bruce Walker"  wrote:


Possibly nsfw content, but rather abstract.

http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IJBHEGfRtYkE

645z, 55mm/2.8

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Re: PESO - Guitar Study

[Larry Colen]

Chris Mitchell wrote:

Bruce's "Fiddle Study" reminded me of this. Mildly NSFW if you're of a
nervous disposition:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iwwyxeqysa1uf9g/Nude%20guitar001.jpg?dl=0


Very nice.   I always loved the posters on that theme of a woman and 
some exotic sports car.




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Re: 600mm lens question

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I know the 400mm works well on kmount, At least at 16mp. I have read
that the 600mm is softer so it might not be so hot on a smaller
sensor. The price is pretty good on those though.

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Re: PESO - Guitar Study

[Bruce Walker]

I work out of a studio that is a 10 minute drive from where I live.
They offer a special rate of $49 for two hours (before noon or after
8:00pm). All the necessary gear is there and you can rent lights
cheaply.

Models are typically around $75 an hour, give or take.

I generally foot the whole bill because I have enough ideas to take up
the whole two hours -- in fact, I usually rent a 5 hour studio slot
and take that entire time myself too. But you could just as easily
share the cost with another photographer.


On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Chris Mitchell
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> On 2 June 2017 at 13:39, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>
>> You should do more.
>>
> Maybe. A few of us from the local club booked a model for an afternoon
> and we each had a 45 minute slot. I had a pretty good idea of what I
> wanted to do and it worked well. Of course there were others there to
> help set up the lights. I've never felt the urge to have another go -
> maybe I will after your comments. I don't belong to the club any more
> though, so would have to get hold of some lights in some way...
>
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Re: 600mm lens question

[Gonz]

Yeah, the weight must be considered.  But the cost is very nice these
days.  Much better than a 600/4 for the K.


On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Jostein  wrote:
> Does the 67 --> K adaptor allow aperture automation?
> I had the K-500 once, and the stop-down metering made it awkward in use.
> Other than that, I think the medium format optics deliver quite well on
> K-mount in general.
>
> But the weight of it...
>
> Jostein
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> Den 02.06.2017 19.06, skrev Gonz:
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>> Anybody ever mounted a 67 600mm/4 lens on a K body?  Results?
>>
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Re: 600mm lens question

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Does the 67 --> K adaptor allow aperture automation?
I had the K-500 once, and the stop-down metering made it awkward in use.
Other than that, I think the medium format optics deliver quite well on 
K-mount in general.


But the weight of it...

Jostein


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Anybody ever mounted a 67 600mm/4 lens on a K body?  Results?




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Re: GESO - Hood Ornaments

[Chris Mitchell]

Good job Mark. You've done well to get them isolated from the background.

Chris

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> Visited a car museum today - a handful of hood ornaments for your viewing
> pleasure:
>
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/hood-ornaments
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> All taken with the K1 and 28-105, f3.5-5.6. All shot with available light.
> K1 high ISO performance is pretty impressive.
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Re: PESO - Guitar Study

[Gonz]

Very nice, keeps the eyes interested in all the aspects of it.  Now that's art.


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> nervous disposition:
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Re: GESO - Hood Ornaments

[Ken Waller]

The Gilmore is a greatlace to wander around !
Hard to get clean backgrounds for ornament shore.
Nice work Mark.


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>Subject: GESO - Hood Ornaments
>
>Visited a car museum today - a handful of hood ornaments for your 
>viewing pleasure:
>
>http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/hood-ornaments
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>All taken with the K1 and 28-105, f3.5-5.6. All shot with available 
>light. K1 high ISO performance is pretty impressive.
>
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Re: GESO - Hood Ornaments

[Ken Waller]

Great place the Gilmore. Hard to get good hood ornament shots with a clear 
background. Nice job Mark.


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>Subject: GESO - Hood Ornaments
>
>Visited a car museum today - a handful of hood ornaments for your 
>viewing pleasure:
>
>http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/hood-ornaments
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>All taken with the K1 and 28-105, f3.5-5.6. All shot with available 
>light. K1 high ISO performance is pretty impressive.
>
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Re: PESO - Guitar Study

[Chris Mitchell]

On 2 June 2017 at 13:39, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> You should do more.
>
Maybe. A few of us from the local club booked a model for an afternoon
and we each had a 45 minute slot. I had a pretty good idea of what I
wanted to do and it worked well. Of course there were others there to
help set up the lights. I've never felt the urge to have another go -
maybe I will after your comments. I don't belong to the club any more
though, so would have to get hold of some lights in some way...

CM

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$200 off FA 24-70

[Gonz]

Lowest price I've seen in a while...

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1187673-REG/pentax_21310_24_70mm_f_2_8ed_sdm_wr.html/SUB/cpw


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Re: PESO - body sculpture study 4

[Bruce Walker]

77 - I like it! :)

Thank you, Dan.

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:56 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> Nicely done.
> 77?
>
> Dan Matyola
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> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
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>> nsfw for some.
>>
>> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IAHJmn6q70EA
>>
>> Still thinking of a pithy title.
>>
>> 645z, dfa645 55mm/2.8 sdm, f/9, 1/125th sec, 100 iso
>>
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Re: PESO - body sculpture study 4

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nicely done.
77?

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On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> nsfw for some.
>
> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IAHJmn6q70EA
>
> Still thinking of a pithy title.
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PESO - body sculpture study 4

[Bruce Walker]

nsfw for some.

http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IAHJmn6q70EA

Still thinking of a pithy title.

645z, dfa645 55mm/2.8 sdm, f/9, 1/125th sec, 100 iso

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Re: Peso-Freeze

[Daniel J. Matyola]

He's a cute little fellow, Jack!

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On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:40 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:

>
>
> Today, as I was leaving the Colusa Ntl Refuge after a lean full tour drive,
> I passed the viewing deck. Crouched in front of it was a frozen Cottontail.
> Unusual to see a rabbit other than a Jackrabbit.
> Took a couple frames and am posting one here.
> Apparently I'm pretty desperate for a fresh wildlife image.
>
> 150-450
>
> C?
>
> Thanks!
>
> J
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1221
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Re: PESO - Guitar Study

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is a very striking abstract!

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On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Chris Mitchell 
wrote:

> Bruce's "Fiddle Study" reminded me of this. Mildly NSFW if you're of a
> nervous disposition:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/iwwyxeqysa1uf9g/Nude%20guitar001.jpg?dl=0
>
> Chris
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Re: PESO - Guitar Study

[Bruce Walker]

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> On 2 June 2017 at 13:19, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> That's beautiful, Chris. Recent film work?
>>
> Thanks Bruce. About 10 years old. I've been scanning my back catalog
> of negatives. it's the only figure work I've ever done...

You should do more.

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Re: PESO - Guitar Study

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On 2 June 2017 at 13:19, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> That's beautiful, Chris. Recent film work?
>
Thanks Bruce. About 10 years old. I've been scanning my back catalog
of negatives. it's the only figure work I've ever done...

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Re: PESO - fiddle study 3

[Bruce Walker]

Thank you, Chris.

Hmmm, banjos. A challenge! :)


On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 7:18 AM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> Very nice Bruce. Musical instruments and bodies go well together. Well, not
> banjos maybe, but most.
>
> Chris
>
> On 31 May 2017 16:24, "Bruce Walker"  wrote:
>
>> Possibly nsfw content, but rather abstract.
>>
>> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IJBHEGfRtYkE
>>
>> 645z, 55mm/2.8
>>
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Re: PESO - Guitar Study

[Bruce Walker]

That's beautiful, Chris. Recent film work?


On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> Bruce's "Fiddle Study" reminded me of this. Mildly NSFW if you're of a
> nervous disposition:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/iwwyxeqysa1uf9g/Nude%20guitar001.jpg?dl=0
>
> Chris
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Re: PESO - fiddle study 3

[Chris Mitchell]

Very nice Bruce. Musical instruments and bodies go well together. Well, not
banjos maybe, but most.

Chris

On 31 May 2017 16:24, "Bruce Walker"  wrote:

> Possibly nsfw content, but rather abstract.
>
> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IJBHEGfRtYkE
>
> 645z, 55mm/2.8
>
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Re: PESO - Guitar Study

[Chris Mitchell]

Oh. Z-1 and probably 50mm F1.7. Ilford FP4.
CM

On 2 June 2017 at 11:54, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> Bruce's "Fiddle Study" reminded me of this. Mildly NSFW if you're of a
> nervous disposition:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/iwwyxeqysa1uf9g/Nude%20guitar001.jpg?dl=0
>
> Chris

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PESO - Guitar Study

[Chris Mitchell]

Bruce's "Fiddle Study" reminded me of this. Mildly NSFW if you're of a
nervous disposition:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iwwyxeqysa1uf9g/Nude%20guitar001.jpg?dl=0

Chris

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Re: Fwd: Re: Anyone else with Q7?

[Brian Walters]

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017, at 03:37 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:Re: Anyone else with Q7?
> Date:   Thu, 1 Jun 2017 17:01:57 -0400
> From:   P. J. Alling 
> To: Jostein 
> 
> 
> 
> Wow, they've been discontinued in Japan and the US for at last a couple
> of years now.  I know where Ricoh sent the remaining stock now.


The Q-S1 was the latest model but even that's been canned as far as I
know.

I use my Q (original model) as a take anywhere system - I never leave
home without it.  The body and two zooms take up almost no space.

Pocketability? With the original 01 prime lens it wont fit in the pocket
of tight jeans (not that I wear them!) but it can fit into a larger
pocket.


Cheers

Brian

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> 
> 
> On 6/1/2017 4:02 PM, Jostein wrote:
> > Oh, right. Not an uplifting first response...
> > This is it:
> > http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.uk/en/product/10404/body/overview/digital-mirrorless.html
> >  
> >
> >
> > Jostein
> >
> > Den 01.06.2017 20.57, skrev Daniel J. Matyola:
> >> What is a Q7?
> >>
> >
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