Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-09 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob Sullivan Mickey D's introduced free WiFi in the USA in mid January. I look forward to trying it the next time I travel. :-) What's absurd here is that every motel on the interstate will have free WiFi, but the expensive hotels in downtown Boston or Chicago will charge for it.

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-07 Thread Martin Trautmann
Am 07.02.2010 00:56, schrieb steve harley: On 2010-02-06 17:24 , Martin Trautmann wrote: Thanks, so the price now is up to $40 or even $90, saving $2 for the former built-in option. yeah i guess Apple sold too few to keep the product alive; i'd try eBay for a better price I'll have a look,

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-07 Thread Martin Trautmann
Am 07.02.2010 09:56, schrieb Martin Trautmann: Dell models are much cheaper here, about the same size. Are there any experiences about USB 56k modems which did *not* work with Macs? Example of a cheap one: ebay #180458160070, 6.80 € (about $9) - should this work with any computer, including

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-07 Thread paul stenquist
On Feb 7, 2010, at 2:33 AM, David Mann wrote: On Feb 7, 2010, at 9:07 AM, John Francis wrote: The last time I used one (on the previous machine) was at my mother's house, to get internet access (Virgin UK pay-as-you-go). But for my last trip I used a USB cellular modem. We picked up

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
Mickey D's introduced free WiFi in the USA in mid January. I look forward to trying it the next time I travel. :-) What's absurd here is that every motel on the interstate will have free WiFi, but the expensive hotels in downtown Boston or Chicago will charge for it. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Feb

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-07 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 8:10 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 06:52:03PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote: On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 3:47 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/2/6 Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info: Among other Apple laptops I have performed

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-07 Thread steve harley
On 2010-02-07 01:59 , Martin Trautmann wrote: Am 07.02.2010 09:56, schrieb Martin Trautmann: Dell models are much cheaper here, about the same size. Are there any experiences about USB 56k modems which did *not* work with Macs? Example of a cheap one: ebay #180458160070, 6.80 € (about $9) -

Re: Laptop computers with good displays? - correction

2010-02-06 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/6 Martin Trautmann tr...@gmx.de: Thanks for the corection. But the iPad will have IPS... Source or bust. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-06 Thread steve harley
On 2010-02-05 10:33 , Martin Trautmann wrote: eSATA? for that you need the 17 MacBook Pro, or an older 15, there are ExpressCards that do eSATA seamlessless (no drivers) fax modem? should you really need such a thing, Apple sells an external modem the size of a pack of gum for $30; a

Re: Laptop computers with good displays? - correction

2010-02-06 Thread Martin Trautmann
Am 06.02.2010 14:06, schrieb AlunFoto: 2010/2/6 Martin Trautmanntr...@gmx.de: Thanks for the corection. But the iPad will have IPS... Source or bust. Watch the keynote. Or more easily: http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ Display * 9.7-inch (diagonal) LED-backlit glossy widescreen

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Sorry Paul, but I've changed hard drives and RAM (as have many of my non-computer-industry friends) on those exact models. I've changed them on ALL of the laptops I've had, both my own and many pre-prod units. Apple puts its own label on the drives they use as OEM and you might not find the part

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-06 Thread P N Stenquist
On Feb 6, 2010, at 9:39 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Sorry Paul, You mean, Sorry Steve:-) but I've changed hard drives and RAM (as have many of my non-computer-industry friends) on those exact models. I've changed them on ALL of the laptops I've had, both my own and many pre-prod units.

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-06 Thread steve harley
On 2010-02-06 09:39 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Sorry Paul, but I've changed hard drives and RAM (as have many of my non-computer-industry friends) on those exact models. I've changed them on ALL of the laptops I've had, both my own and many pre-prod units. Godfrey, i am not Paul, but i too have

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-06 Thread steve harley
On 2010-02-06 09:49 , P N Stenquist wrote: I've changed drives in most of my Macs as well. It was more difficult on the powerbook G3, but not terribly so. the G3 (at least the Pismo version) was hands-down the easiest Apple laptop to change a hard drive in; i've done a WallStreet too, and i

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-06 Thread steve harley
On 2010-02-05 03:50 , AlunFoto wrote: 2010/2/4 Jim Kingjamesk8...@mac.com: Mark (and Jostein), things HAVE changed in the MacBook Pro lineup. All of the current offerings use an IPS screen with LED backlighting. Link to documentation of IPS? try wikipedia -- it's this cool site that

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-06 Thread steve harley
On 2010-02-05 10:22 , Martin Trautmann wrote: Some typical MBP displays are e.g. * B133EW07 V1 (AUO) * LTN133AT09 bingo ^^ (MacBook Pro 13 2.53 GHz, originally sold in June 2009) * LP154WP3-TLA1 * B154PW01 V0 Within MBP 13 there are dedicated color profiles: 9C8C (?) 9C9E (Samsung) 9C9F

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-06 Thread Stan Halpin
Among other Apple laptops I have performed surgery on, I have swapped out the hard drive on a white iMac G3. Talk about an integrated system not designed for user upgrade! But iFixIt is a godsend, and the procedure can be done even by a semi-klutz like me. The most nervous I have ever been

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-06 Thread Martin Trautmann
Am 06.02.2010 14:07, schrieb steve harley: On 2010-02-05 10:33 , Martin Trautmann wrote: eSATA? for that you need the 17 MacBook Pro, or an older 15, there are ExpressCards that do eSATA seamlessless (no drivers) And if you don't want the 17 you are lost. fax modem? should you really

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-06 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 08:34:53PM +0100, Martin Trautmann wrote: fax modem? should you really need such a thing, Apple sells an external modem the size of a pack of gum for $30; Which one, where? AFAIK all are gone from the store. a while back i got one in a bag of stuff at a yard sale

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-06 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/6 steve harley p...@paper-ape.com: On 2010-02-05 03:50 , AlunFoto wrote: 2010/2/4 Jim Kingjamesk8...@mac.com: Mark (and Jostein), things HAVE changed in the MacBook Pro lineup.  All of the current offerings use an IPS screen with LED backlighting. Link to documentation of IPS?

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-06 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/6 Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info: Among other Apple laptops I have performed surgery on, I have swapped out the hard drive on a white iMac G3. Talk about an integrated system not designed for user upgrade! But iFixIt is a godsend, and the procedure can be done even by a

Re: Laptop computers with good displays? - correction

2010-02-06 Thread AlunFoto
Thanks Martin! Much appreciated. Jostein 2010/2/6 Martin Trautmann tr...@gmx.de: Am 06.02.2010 14:06, schrieb AlunFoto: 2010/2/6 Martin Trautmanntr...@gmx.de: Thanks for the corection. But the iPad will have IPS... Source or bust. Watch the keynote. Or more easily:

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-06 Thread Charles Robinson
On Feb 6, 2010, at 13:34, Martin Trautmann wrote: fax modem? should you really need such a thing, Apple sells an external modem the size of a pack of gum for $30; Which one, where? AFAIK all are gone from the store.

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-06 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: I had an HP/Compaq 8230 that had a wonderful display. Just got a second-hand HP 8440, mainly for audio, and I'm quite happy with its 15,4 inch display. Guess it's just another TFT but the quality is really decent, especially after calibrating it with my

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-06 Thread Martin Trautmann
Am 06.02.2010 22:23, schrieb Charles Robinson: On Feb 6, 2010, at 13:34, Martin Trautmann wrote: fax modem? should you really need such a thing, Apple sells an external modem the size of a pack of gum for $30; Which one, where? AFAIK all are gone from the store.

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-06 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 3:47 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/2/6 Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info: Among other Apple laptops I have performed surgery on, I have swapped out the hard drive on a white iMac G3. Talk about an integrated system not designed for user upgrade! But

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-06 Thread steve harley
On 2010-02-06 17:24 , Martin Trautmann wrote: Thanks, so the price now is up to $40 or even $90, saving $2 for the former built-in option. yeah i guess Apple sold too few to keep the product alive; i'd try eBay for a better price -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-06 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 06:52:03PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote: On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 3:47 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/2/6 Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info: Among other Apple laptops I have performed surgery on, I have swapped out the hard drive on a white iMac G3. Talk

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-06 Thread David Mann
On Feb 7, 2010, at 9:07 AM, John Francis wrote: The last time I used one (on the previous machine) was at my mother's house, to get internet access (Virgin UK pay-as-you-go). But for my last trip I used a USB cellular modem. We picked up one of those not long before Xmas as one of the big

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/4 Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com: Mark (and Jostein), things HAVE changed in the MacBook Pro lineup.  All of the current offerings use an IPS screen with LED backlighting. Link to documentation of IPS? Please? Would love to know where Apple source those panels. Jostein --

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/5 steve harley p...@paper-ape.com: current Mac laptops reportedly have TN displays (if someone has a reference to confirm they are IPS i'd like to know), but Apple claims 60% wider gamut and implies all models have the same display quality; i can report real satisfaction with casual use

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/5 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: Sort of along the same vein, and a definite jab, for which I apologize, something I just wrote somewhere else on the net: If someone was standing in front of you, trying to slap your face repeatedly, hour after hour, day after day, year after year,

Re: Laptop computers with good displays? - correction

2010-02-05 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/5 Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com: Sorry, but I need to correct myself - evidently I was thinking of the latest iMac displays, which are said to be IPS.  I can't find any credible source to support my statement above that the MacBook Pro displays use IPS.  They do use LED backlighting,

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread AlunFoto
LG ( == Philips) is one of the major panel manufacturers. I just had a look into their catalogue, and in their current lineup there's only _one_ panel with 8 bit colour depth. A 17,1 widescreen. The panel technology is not specified, but the backlight is described as RGB LED where all the others

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Tanya Love wrote: Really? Well that shows how limited my Mac knowledge is, I always thought that you had to keep whatever you got with it! I didn't even know that you could upgrade the RAM and hard drive! Oh yes, you can do all that stuff now. The requirement that you get an Apple tattoo

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Mark Roberts
AlunFoto wrote: It's terribly difficult to figure out which panels are actually inside any particular laptop unless the maker states it as part of the specs. Which nearly noone does. :-( That's what frustrated me into starting this thread. Most of Apple's desktop displays are LG/Philips, with

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/5 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com: Most of Apple's desktop displays are LG/Philips, with Samsung making an occasional appearance. But I can't find out what kind of display is in anyone's laptop computer. Apparently, some of the more obsessed laptop geeks have a habit of picking their

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Mark Roberts
AlunFoto wrote: 2010/2/5 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com: Most of Apple's desktop displays are LG/Philips, with Samsung making an occasional appearance. But I can't find out what kind of display is in anyone's laptop computer. Apparently, some of the more obsessed laptop geeks have a habit

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/5 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com: The Apple iMac 20 was sold with both a Philips/LG TN panel and a Samsung S-PVA - *big* difference in quality between a TN and an S-PVA! If that's without informing the customer, it's pretty arrogant... :-( Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Rob Studdert
On 06/02/2010, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/2/5 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com: The Apple iMac 20 was sold with both a Philips/LG TN panel and a Samsung S-PVA - *big* difference in quality between a TN and an S-PVA! If that's without informing the customer, it's pretty

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Martin Trautmann
Am 05.02.2010 14:33, schrieb AlunFoto: Apparently, some of the more obsessed laptop geeks have a habit of picking their machines apart to find model numbers printed on the display assembly. That's how Dell was caught sourcing different displays in some laptop models at different production

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: Really? Well that shows how limited my Mac knowledge is, I always thought that you had to keep whatever you got with it! I didn't even know that you could upgrade the RAM and hard drive! Me thinks I need to do lots more

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Martin Trautmann
Am 05.02.2010 16:12, schrieb Martin Trautmann: Am 05.02.2010 14:33, schrieb AlunFoto: Apparently, some of the more obsessed laptop geeks have a habit of picking their machines apart to find model numbers printed on the display assembly. That's how Dell was caught sourcing different displays in

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Martin Trautmann
Am 05.02.2010 16:15, schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi: Yes, I use Apple systems, been using them (along with many others) since 1983-4. They do what I need in a way I find satisfying and productive, and get in the way less of the time, for me. Their warts are warts I can live with more easily than the

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread P N Stenquist
Interesting. Terminal says the display on my iMac 24 (previous generation to the current iMac) is LM240WU2-SLB2 Color LCD Don't know what that means, but I suspect it can be translated. Paul On Feb 5, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Martin Trautmann wrote: Am 05.02.2010 16:12, schrieb Martin Trautmann:

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Martin Trautmann tr...@gmx.de wrote: Unfortunately their's a major lack of alternatives, once you are addicted to OSX. Being addicted to anything is a bad idea matte 13 screen? Don't care. As stated prior, I see no point to worrying about a fancy laptop

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/5 Martin Trautmann tr...@gmx.de: You may obtain this info easily for the Mac. Just open the terminal and enter: ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed /[^]*/s/// | xxd -p -r | strings -6 ROTFLMAO. easily, eh? Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/5 Martin Trautmann tr...@gmx.de: Some typical MBP displays are e.g. * B133EW07 V1 (AUO) * LTN133AT09 * LP154WP3-TLA1 * B154PW01 V0 So tell us, Martin! Are they 6 bit TN panels or something decent? Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Mark Roberts
AlunFoto wrote: 2010/2/5 Martin Trautmann tr...@gmx.de: You may obtain this info easily for the Mac. Just open the terminal and enter: ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed /[^]*/s/// | xxd -p -r | strings -6 ROTFLMAO. easily, eh? Yeah. That's a Quotes List candidate for sure! -- PDML

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/5 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: 2010/2/5 Martin Trautmann tr...@gmx.de: You may obtain this info easily for the Mac. Just open the terminal and enter: ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed /[^]*/s/// | xxd -p -r | strings -6 ROTFLMAO. easily, eh? Duh. Hit send too early in my

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Martin Trautmann
Am 05.02.2010 19:09, schrieb AlunFoto: 2010/2/5 Martin Trautmanntr...@gmx.de: You may obtain this info easily for the Mac. Just open the terminal and enter: ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed /[^]*/s/// | xxd -p -r | strings -6 ROTFLMAO. easily, eh? ioreg is easy to type, but difficult

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread paul stenquist
On Feb 5, 2010, at 1:09 PM, AlunFoto wrote: 2010/2/5 Martin Trautmann tr...@gmx.de: You may obtain this info easily for the Mac. Just open the terminal and enter: ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed /[^]*/s/// | xxd -p -r | strings -6 ROTFLMAO. easily, eh? I did it. If I can do

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/5 Martin Trautmann tr...@gmx.de: I feel it's easier than to take the computer apart in order to find the model inside. :-) And not to mention less destructive to the unit. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/5 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: I did it. If I can do it, anyone can do it:-). Well I can't. Don't have a mac handy. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Martin Trautmann
Am 05.02.2010 19:11, schrieb AlunFoto: 2010/2/5 Martin Trautmanntr...@gmx.de: Some typical MBP displays are e.g. * B133EW07 V1 (AUO) * LTN133AT09 * LP154WP3-TLA1 * B154PW01 V0 So tell us, Martin! Are they 6 bit TN panels or something decent? You might google this easily. However, I guess

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread AlunFoto
Okay, I did some googling myself. :-) 2010/2/5 Martin Trautmann tr...@gmx.de: * B133EW07 V1 (AUO) This one is apparently produced in Taiwan by http://www.auo.com . The panel model doesn't feature on their products page, but all the listed laptop screens are specified as TN panels. I checked

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Mark Roberts
paul stenquist wrote: On Feb 5, 2010, at 1:09 PM, AlunFoto wrote: 2010/2/5 Martin Trautmann tr...@gmx.de: You may obtain this info easily for the Mac. Just open the terminal and enter: ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed /[^]*/s/// | xxd -p -r | strings -6 ROTFLMAO. easily, eh? I

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread P N Stenquist
On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: paul stenquist wrote: On Feb 5, 2010, at 1:09 PM, AlunFoto wrote: 2010/2/5 Martin Trautmann tr...@gmx.de: You may obtain this info easily for the Mac. Just open the terminal and enter: ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed /[^]*/s/// |

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/5 P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: paul stenquist wrote: On Feb 5, 2010, at 1:09 PM, AlunFoto wrote: 2010/2/5 Martin Trautmann tr...@gmx.de: You may obtain this info easily for the Mac. Just open the terminal and enter: ioreg -lw0

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 07:58:56AM -0500, Mark Roberts scripsit: Most of Apple's desktop displays are LG/Philips, with Samsung making an occasional appearance. But I can't find out what kind of display is in anyone's laptop computer. It's profoundly unlikely to be the same display in ever

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Graydon wrote: On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 07:58:56AM -0500, Mark Roberts scripsit: Most of Apple's desktop displays are LG/Philips, with Samsung making an occasional appearance. But I can't find out what kind of display is in anyone's laptop computer. It's profoundly unlikely to be the same

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 05:16:21PM -0500, Mark Roberts scripsit: Graydon wrote: On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 07:58:56AM -0500, Mark Roberts scripsit: Most of Apple's desktop displays are LG/Philips, with Samsung making an occasional appearance. But I can't find out what kind of display is in

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Charles Robinson
On Feb 5, 2010, at 9:12, Martin Trautmann wrote: You may obtain this info easily for the Mac. Just open the terminal and enter: ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed /[^]*/s/// | xxd -p -r | strings -6 LP133WX1-TLA1 Color LCD I've got a 13 Macbook (late 2007 I think is the version...)

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread paul stenquist
On Feb 5, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Feb 5, 2010, at 9:12, Martin Trautmann wrote: You may obtain this info easily for the Mac. Just open the terminal and enter: ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed /[^]*/s/// | xxd -p -r | strings -6 LP133WX1-TLA1 Color LCD

Re: Laptop computers with good displays? - correction

2010-02-05 Thread steve harley
On 2010-02-05 04:09 , AlunFoto wrote: 2010/2/5 Jim Kingjamesk8...@mac.com: Sorry, but I need to correct myself - evidently I was thinking of the latest iMac displays, which are said to be IPS. I can't find any credible source to support my statement above that the MacBook Pro displays use

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Feb 5, 2010, at 07:12 , Martin Trautmann wrote: Am 05.02.2010 14:33, schrieb AlunFoto: Apparently, some of the more obsessed laptop geeks have a habit of picking their machines apart to find model numbers printed on the display assembly. That's how Dell was caught sourcing different

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Feb 5, 2010, at 10:17 , Mark Roberts wrote: AlunFoto wrote: 2010/2/5 Martin Trautmann tr...@gmx.de: You may obtain this info easily for the Mac. Just open the terminal and enter: ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed /[^]*/s/// | xxd -p -r | strings -6 ROTFLMAO. easily, eh?

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Seems to be a regular expression, any Unix Geek should be able to write 'em. On 2/5/2010 1:09 PM, AlunFoto wrote: 2010/2/5 Martin Trautmanntr...@gmx.de: You may obtain this info easily for the Mac. Just open the terminal and enter: ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed /[^]*/s/// | xxd

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:23 , Mark Roberts wrote: paul stenquist wrote: On Feb 5, 2010, at 1:09 PM, AlunFoto wrote: 2010/2/5 Martin Trautmann tr...@gmx.de: You may obtain this info easily for the Mac. Just open the terminal and enter: ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed /[^]*/s/// | xxd

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-05 Thread steve harley
On 2010-02-05 10:15 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I was deeply involved with Apple as an external developer from 1984 on and then worked for Apple from 1991, shortly after the first PowerBook introduction, to 2004. I sat in laptop development teams representing Developer Relations during the first

Re: Laptop computers with good displays? - correction

2010-02-05 Thread Martin Trautmann
Am 05.02.2010 05:01, schrieb Jim King: Sorry, but I need to correct myself - evidently I was thinking of the latest iMac displays, which are said to be IPS. I can't find any credible source to support my statement above that the MacBook Pro displays use IPS. Thanks for the corection. But the

RE: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-04 Thread Rick Womer
...@bigpond.com wrote: From: Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com Subject: RE: Laptop computers with good displays? To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 10:33 PM I'd love to hear thoughts on this too!  Just got myself sorted with my K-7, now I need a new lappy

RE: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-04 Thread Tanya Love
Subject: RE: Laptop computers with good displays? Tanya, If you want a Mac, go for it. My MacBook Pro gets along just fine with the Windows-oriented network at work, and I've traveled with it to friends' houses with all-PC networks and not had any problems. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-04 Thread Paul Sorenson
On 2/3/2010 10:00 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Anyone know of any laptop computers with good (IPS/MVA/PVA) displays? Particularly any reasonably sized ones? Last I heard there weren't any high quality displays under 17 and I'd prefer something smaller than that if possible. My

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-04 Thread John Sessoms
From: Doug Brewer Mark Roberts wrote: Anyone know of any laptop computers with good (IPS/MVA/PVA) displays? Particularly any reasonably sized ones? Last I heard there weren't any high quality displays under 17 and I'd prefer something smaller than that if possible. My current laptop just

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-04 Thread Bruce Dayton
impossible to TL upgrade... TL Decisions, decisions! Lol. TL -Original Message- TL From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rick TL Womer TL Sent: Thursday, 4 February 2010 10:09 PM TL To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List TL Subject: RE: Laptop computers with good

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-04 Thread Igor Roshchin
Mark, Sorry, somebody might have responded with this information already - I am short on time to read the entire thread at the moment. Fujitsu laptops in general tend to have good quality screens. I never researched the type of the LCDs. If you are looking for ultraportable line (comparable

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-04 Thread Jim King
AlunFoto wrote on Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:45:02 -0800: Mark, I researched this extensively a year ago before buying a laptop myself. My conclusion then was that no laptops with smaller than 17 screen has any of the higher quality panel types. That also included the offerings from Apple. (snip)

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-04 Thread Charles Robinson
On Feb 4, 2010, at 7:17, Tanya Love wrote: Cool! The lack of viruses is certainly appealing too. I am thinking that I would go for the 15 MacBook Pro, it's just that I haven't used a Mac since highschool and although I know the user interface is so easy to work with, I worry that I am not

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-04 Thread steve harley
On 2010-02-03 19:11 , Mark Roberts wrote: Anyone know of any laptop computers with good (IPS/MVA/PVA) displays? current Mac laptops reportedly have TN displays (if someone has a reference to confirm they are IPS i'd like to know), but Apple claims 60% wider gamut and implies all models have

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-04 Thread steve harley
On 2010-02-04 06:17 , Tanya Love wrote: Cool! The lack of viruses is certainly appealing too. I am thinking that I would go for the 15 MacBook Pro, it's just that I haven't used a Mac since highschool and although I know the user interface is so easy to work with, I worry that I am not going

Re: Laptop computers with good displays? - correction

2010-02-04 Thread Jim King
Jim King wrote on Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:05:07 -0800 Mark (and Jostein), things HAVE changed in the MacBook Pro lineup. All of the current offerings use an IPS screen with LED backlighting. I got a 15 incher at Chrstmas as a present for myself, and it's gorgeous! You can get either a glossy

RE: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-04 Thread Tanya Love
[mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of steve harley Sent: Friday, 5 February 2010 9:35 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Laptop computers with good displays? On 2010-02-04 06:17 , Tanya Love wrote: Cool! The lack of viruses is certainly appealing too. I am thinking that I would go

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-04 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Feb 4, 2010, at 13:04 , Jim King wrote: AlunFoto wrote on Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:45:02 -0800: Mark, I researched this extensively a year ago before buying a laptop myself. My conclusion then was that no laptops with smaller than 17 screen has any of the higher quality panel types. That also

Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Anyone know of any laptop computers with good (IPS/MVA/PVA) displays? Particularly any reasonably sized ones? Last I heard there weren't any high quality displays under 17 and I'd prefer something smaller than that if possible. My current laptop just died. It's a total nothing lights up failure,

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-03 Thread Rick Womer
Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 2/3/10, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com Subject: Laptop computers with good displays? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 9:11 PM Anyone know of any

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-03 Thread Tom C
Power supply most likely which should usually be not too expensive. Sorry can't recommend a cheap laptop at the moment. I've got a 17 HP and next time may go with a 13 or smaller (not a netbook), because I'm tired of lugging 10 pounds + 20 pounds of bag, paper, cords, drives, etc. On Wed, Feb

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-03 Thread Sasha Sobol
...@robertstech.com Subject: Laptop computers with good displays? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 9:11 PM Anyone know of any laptop computers with good (IPS/MVA/PVA) displays? Particularly any reasonably sized ones? Last I heard there weren't any high

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-03 Thread paul stenquist
I believe the new Macbook 15 inchers have high quality displays. I believe they added the 15s to the mix this year. Previously, only the 17s had the high end displays. Paul On Feb 3, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Anyone know of any laptop computers with good (IPS/MVA/PVA) displays?

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-03 Thread Rick Womer
, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com Subject: Laptop computers with good displays? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 9:11 PM Anyone know of any laptop computers with good (IPS/MVA/PVA) displays

RE: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-03 Thread Tanya Love
probably end up with another HP... :( Tan. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Thursday, 4 February 2010 12:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Laptop computers with good displays? Anyone know of any laptop

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Mark, In the PC world, Fujitsu laptops have been known for high quality displays. Something you should check in to. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 6:11:07 PM, you wrote: MR Anyone know of any laptop computers with good (IPS/MVA/PVA) displays? MR Particularly any

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-03 Thread Doug Brewer
Mark Roberts wrote: Anyone know of any laptop computers with good (IPS/MVA/PVA) displays? Particularly any reasonably sized ones? Last I heard there weren't any high quality displays under 17 and I'd prefer something smaller than that if possible. My current laptop just died. It's a total

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-03 Thread drd1135
I had that very thought. It would look good but I wonder what its like to work on it. --Original Message-- From: Doug Brewer Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List ReplyTo: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Laptop computers with good displays? Sent: Feb 3, 2010 11

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-03 Thread AlunFoto
Mark, I researched this extensively a year ago before buying a laptop myself. My conclusion then was that no laptops with smaller than 17 screen has any of the higher quality panel types. That also included the offerings from Apple. The IPS-based FlexView series of screens from IBM/Lenovo ended

Re: Laptop computers with good displays?

2010-02-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
IMO, no laptop screen regardless of computer brand or screen size is truly worthwhile for real image processing work. Only for quick and dirty roughing in. That said, the matte screens Apple's been using are pretty good and calibrate well. Glossy screens ... well, I dislike them but for what I