Re: adobe pdf question

2010-04-09 Thread John Sessoms
From: William Robb From: steve harley On 2010-04-08 03:08 , Joseph McAllister wrote: Risks are Risks. How many Toyota owners stopped driving their cars because of the 'risk' that their gas pedal may stick? risks are usually not clearly perceived; nonetheless, Toyota has taken a large

Re: adobe pdf question

2010-04-09 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 8, 2010, at 09:23 , steve harley wrote: i'm just arguing for realism; don't get me wrong, i like using Macs; i've been a Mac specialist in one sense or another for over twenty years; it's nice not to worry much about viruses, but there are plenty of other risks The use of the

Re: adobe pdf question

2010-04-08 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 7, 2010, at 08:34 , steve harley wrote: my post wasn't about malware, it was about zero-day exploits, which are descriptions of exploitable methods that were published before the hole had been patched; some had enough detail to be exploited by even dumb black-hats; i didn't claim

Re: adobe pdf question

2010-04-08 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-08 03:08 , Joseph McAllister wrote: Risks are Risks. How many Toyota owners stopped driving their cars because of the 'risk' that their gas pedal may stick? risks are usually not clearly perceived; nonetheless, Toyota has taken a large sales hit, and in my casual observation i have

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2010-04-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: steve harley Subject: Re: adobe pdf question On 2010-04-08 03:08 , Joseph McAllister wrote: Risks are Risks. How many Toyota owners stopped driving their cars because of the 'risk' that their gas pedal may stick? risks are usually not clearly perceived

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2010-04-08 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-08 14:11 , William Robb wrote: Interestingly, I just heard on the radio that Toyota saw sales jump 40% over the past short while. Intersting that people are afraid to drive them, yet are willingly buying them. that same article should have also mentioned that Toyota used incentives

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2010-04-08 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 02:11:50PM -0600, William Robb wrote: Interestingly, I just heard on the radio that Toyota saw sales jump 40% over the past short while. Ah, but 40% up from what? If sales had previously fallen off by 60%, say, from an earlier period, then an increase of 40% from that

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2010-04-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Top posting may be the devil, but it's hard to do otherwise when I'm responding via the Gmail app on an iPod Touch. ;-) But I'm on my laptop now. Graydon: ... So I'd be wildly disinclined to suppose that just because you're on OS X you're safe. ... I don't make such inappropriate assumptions,

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2010-04-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Top posting may be the devil, but it's hard to do otherwise when I'm responding via the Gmail app on an iPod Touch. ;-) Top-posting, using Gmail *and* using an iPhone??? Why don't you just get 666 tattooed on your forehead? ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

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2010-04-07 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-07 06:22 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: However, all of the citations you posted, and steve posted, are not citations of actual incidents. They are reports of professional investigators finding malware, not actual incidents of malware affecting users. my post wasn't about malware, it was

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2010-04-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Top posting may be the devil, but it's hard to do otherwise when I'm responding via the Gmail app on an iPod Touch. ;-) Top-posting, using Gmail *and* using an iPhone??? Why don't you just get 666

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2010-04-07 Thread Bruce Dayton
I personally find bottom posting painful to follow - here is my take: if you aren't actively reading the thread or can't remember what is going on in the thread, then bottom posting works well - because you basically keep re-reading the entire thread in each post. If you are actively following the

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2010-04-07 Thread Larry Colen
On 4/7/2010 9:58 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: I personally find bottom posting painful to follow - here is my take: Which is why long standing rules of netiquette say that you should reply on a line by line basis. if you aren't actively reading the thread or can't remember what is going on in

adobe pdf question

2010-04-06 Thread Larry Colen
I'm running OS 10.5.8 on an iMac. Every time that I try to print something with adobe reader, adobe reader crashes. If it's in safari, it brings safari down with it. I just upgraded adobe reader from 9.2 to 9.3 and it still does it. I tried printing a PDF with photoshop CS3, but it only

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2010-04-06 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 23:42 -0700, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I'm running OS 10.5.8 on an iMac. Every time that I try to print something with adobe reader, adobe reader crashes. If it's in safari, it brings safari down with it. I just upgraded adobe reader from 9.2 to 9.3 and it

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2010-04-06 Thread Cotty
On 5/4/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm running OS 10.5.8 on an iMac. Every time that I try to print something with adobe reader, adobe reader crashes. If it's in safari, it brings safari down with it. I just upgraded adobe reader from 9.2 to 9.3 and it still does it. On 10.5.8

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2010-04-06 Thread David Mann
On Apr 6, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Larry Colen wrote: This seems to be an example of how things just work on a mac, except when they don't. Well it is Adobe ;) Have you tried opening the file in Preview and printing from there? I can't say I've ever had a problem but I don't have Adobe Reader on

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2010-04-06 Thread paul stenquist
Using photoshop, you can import the pages one at a time and convert them to tiffs or jpegs. Paul On Apr 6, 2010, at 2:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm running OS 10.5.8 on an iMac. Every time that I try to print something with adobe reader, adobe reader crashes. If it's in safari, it brings

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2010-04-06 Thread Bruce Walker
David Mann wrote: On Apr 6, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Larry Colen wrote: This seems to be an example of how things just work on a mac, except when they don't. Well it is Adobe ;) Have you tried opening the file in Preview and printing from there? I can't say I've ever had a problem but I don't

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2010-04-06 Thread Igor Roshchin
Larry, Try buying iBook Pro, and if that doesn't help, you can buy iPad. If it won't work still, you can resort to installing Windows under Parallels, and using that for printing from Adobe. :-P)~~~ Igor PS. Excuse me for Macking around. On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 23:42 -0700, Larry Colen lrc at

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2010-04-06 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-06 00:42 , Larry Colen wrote: I'm running OS 10.5.8 on an iMac. Every time that I try to print something with adobe reader, adobe reader crashes. If it's in safari, it brings safari down with it. i'd try deleting the font caches; the Apple caches can be deleted by restarting with

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2010-04-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I'm running OS 10.5.8 on an iMac. Every time that I try to print something with adobe reader, adobe reader crashes. If it's in safari, it brings safari down with it. I just upgraded adobe reader from 9.2 to 9.3 and it still

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2010-04-06 Thread Larry Colen
On 4/6/2010 8:34 AM, steve harley wrote: On 2010-04-06 00:42 , Larry Colen wrote: I'm running OS 10.5.8 on an iMac. Every time that I try to print something with adobe reader, adobe reader crashes. If it's in safari, it brings safari down with it. i'd try deleting the font caches; the Apple

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2010-04-06 Thread Larry Colen
On 4/6/2010 9:09 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote: Try printing your documents with Preview rather than Adobe Reader. If that crashes, the problem could be the document itself. I've had this problem with every PDF file that I've

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2010-04-06 Thread John Sessoms
From: Larry Colen Try printing your documents with Preview rather than Adobe Reader. If that crashes, the problem could be the document itself. I've had this problem with every PDF file that I've tried to print over the past several months. I've usually gotten around it by printing from

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2010-04-06 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-06 10:28 , Larry Colen wrote: This has happened over several versions of adobe reader, and several power cycles of the machine. Are the cache's stored on disk? yes, and the Apple caches can be cleared via some shell commands too, but not just by deleting some files; the best

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2010-04-06 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-06 11:15 , John Sessoms wrote: When you open a multi-page PDF file in Photoshop it should give you a dialog box with thumbnails of all the pages. You choose the page you want to work on. and note that by opening a PDF in Photoshop you are rasterizing the selected page of PDF, which

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2010-04-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/4/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: bash is my preferred environment. I'm American, not Chinese, I prefer to communicate with words rather than pictures. Pictures of naked breasts are my preferred environment. I'm British. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People,

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2010-04-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/4/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: I'll see if I can find any way to open it in preview. Click once on the file to highlight it. Keyboard Command + i for File Info, see 'Open with section, select 'Preview'. You also have the option to allow Preview to open all documents of that

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2010-04-06 Thread Cotty
BTW I only recently discovered in 10.5.8 that you can select any file, hit the spacebar and you get an instant preview, full screen if necessary, without actually opening that file, text, pics, video, anything. That is very cool :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places,

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2010-04-06 Thread Larry Colen
On 4/6/2010 11:21 AM, Cotty wrote: On 6/4/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: bash is my preferred environment. I'm American, not Chinese, I prefer to communicate with words rather than pictures. Pictures of naked breasts are my preferred environment. I'm British. If I'm

Re: adobe pdf question

2010-04-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 6/4/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: I'll see if I can find any way to open it in preview. Click once on the file to highlight it. Keyboard Command + i for File Info, see 'Open with section, select 'Preview'. You

Re: adobe pdf question

2010-04-06 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-06 12:47 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Or, control-click (right-click if you've got a mouse configured for two button) and pick Preview off the menu. or, if Preview is in your Dock, drag the file onto the Preview icon; or if Preview is already running, click and drag the document,

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2010-04-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Em, while you may not have explicitly opened the file, if you can read it, you've opened it. On 4/6/2010 2:30 PM, Cotty wrote: BTW I only recently discovered in 10.5.8 that you can select any file, hit the spacebar and you get an instant preview, full screen if necessary, without actually

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2010-04-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
At some level, this is true but the Mac OS X Finder application reads and displays the contents of the file for you in this instance. Steve has not explicitly called a file system function to open the file. The Finder keeps aware of where you are as you move around in the file system and pre-loads

Re: adobe pdf question

2010-04-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/4/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: At some level, this is true but the Mac OS X Finder application reads and displays the contents of the file for you in this instance. Steve has not explicitly called a file system function to open the file. The Finder keeps aware of where

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2010-04-06 Thread P. J. Alling
On 4/6/2010 5:25 PM, Cotty wrote: On 6/4/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: At some level, this is true but the Mac OS X Finder application reads and displays the contents of the file for you in this instance. Steve has not explicitly called a file system function to open

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2010-04-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:52 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The problem is what engine is it using to display the image, the OS may be rock solid, but the display engine could have problems. ... Since the Finder is the standard tool delivered by Apple with Mac OS X for

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2010-04-06 Thread Graydon
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 09:09:59AM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi scripsit: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I'm running OS 10.5.8 on an iMac. Every time that I try to print something with adobe reader, adobe reader crashes. If it's in safari, it brings safari

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2010-04-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
While I don't disbelieve you, I've yet to see a single credible report of a Adobe Reader/PDF malware attack on Mac OS X documented. If you can cite one I'd be much obliged. Thanks! On Tuesday, April 6, 2010, Graydon gray...@marost.ca wrote: On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 09:09:59AM -0700, Godfrey

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2010-04-06 Thread Graydon
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 06:02:05PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi scripsit: While I don't disbelieve you, I've yet to see a single credible report of a Adobe Reader/PDF malware attack on Mac OS X documented. If you can cite one I'd be much obliged. Top-posting is of the devil.

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2010-04-06 Thread Bruce Walker
Graydon wrote: On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 06:02:05PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi scripsit: While I don't disbelieve you, I've yet to see a single credible report of a Adobe Reader/PDF malware attack on Mac OS X documented. If you can cite one I'd be much obliged. Top-posting is of the devil.

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2010-04-06 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-06 20:04 , Bruce Walker wrote: Possible security hazards are found all the time, and fixed, most often in a timely fashion. A big Mac OS X update was released last week that fixed dozens of security issues uncovered by researchers. *However*, there aren't any known exploits out there

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2010-04-06 Thread Larry Colen
Neither deleting the adobe nor the apple caches seemed to do any good, but I was able to print from preview. I'm not feeling nerdy enough to try to solve the adobe problem now, rather than playing with photos and/or going to sleep. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est --