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Chair of Republican Party Put at a Loss by Downing Street Minutes
By David Swanson, www.afterdowningstreet.org

On June 5, 2005, Ken Mehlman, Chairman of the Republican Party, was asked
about the Downing Street Minutes on "NBC News' Meet the Press." To my
knowledge, this was the first serious treatment of the matter on any U.S.
network news show. It still remains for a news program to report on the
matter on its own behalf, as opposed to asking a Republican guest to
comment on it.

The transcript is here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8062380

MR. RUSSERT:  Let me turn to the now-famous Downing Street memo.  This was
a memo, July 23, 2002, from the head of British intelligence to Prime
Minister Blair; in effect, notes taken from a briefing that was given to
Prime Minister Blair after the head of British intelligence came back from
a trip to Washington.  It says this:  "[The head of British Intelligence]
reported on his recent talks in Washington.  There was a perceptible shift
in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable.  Bush wanted to
remove Saddam, though military action, justified by the conjunction of
terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around
the policy."

This is July of 2002.  We didn't invade until March of 2003.  And the
prime minister of Great Britain is being told by the head of his
intelligence that he went to Washington and believes that a decision had
already been made and that the administration was fixing or manipulating
the intelligence to support the policy.

MR. MEHLMAN:  Tim, that report has been discredited by everyone else who's
looked at it since then.  Whether it's the 911 Commission, whether it's
the Senate, whoever's looked at this has said there was no effort to
change the intelligence at all.  The fact is that the intelligence of this
country, the intelligence of Britain, the intelligence of the United
Nations, the intelligence all over the world said that there were weapons
of mass destruction present in Iraq.  We knew that Saddam Hussein had used
weapons of mass destruction before.  We still know that there was a
weapons of mass destruction program.  He was evading the sanctions, and he
had plans to reconstitute the program.  We also knew that Saddam Hussein
had uniquely invaded his neighbors, had uniquely supported terrorists and
we all know today that we are safer because he's been removed from power.

So I believe that that individual report not only has been discredited but
that the overall reasons for removing Saddam Hussein were broader than
that, they were correct, and we're now safer and certainly the people of
Iraq are safer now that Saddam Hussein has been removed from power.

MR. RUSSERT:  I don't believe that the authenticity of this report has
been discredited.

MR. MEHLMAN:  I believe that the findings of the report, the fact that the
intelligence was somehow fixed have been totally discredited by everyone
who's looked at it.

MR. RUSSERT:  There--let me go back to another sentence from that report.
"There was little discussion in Washington of the aftermath after military
action."  Paul Wolfowitz, the deputy defense secretary, now head of the
World Bank, said the other day, "The war never ended," and the concern
many Americans have, Mr. Mehlman, is that we now have 1,669 Americans
who've died bravely in Iraq, 1,532 of those after the president said major
combat operations were over.  We have 12,762 Americans wounded or injured,
12,000 of those after the president said major combat was over.  This memo
seems to suggest that the head of British Intelligence told Prime Minister
Blair that there was little discussion in Washington to plan for the
aftermath of military action.

MR. MEHLMAN:  I would respectfully disagree with that finding.  I think
that there was clearly planning that occurred, planning that occurred to
deal with the results of the war.  If you remember after the first Gulf
War, whether it was the breaching of the dams that we saw all over Iraq,
that didn't happen. Whether it was the fires that we saw, that didn't
happen this past time. Plans were made for after the war.  There's no
question that there has been an insurgency.  The insurgents understand the
stakes of the situation in Iraq. They understand that if we're successful,
their efforts to promote terrorism around the world, their efforts to
defeat democracy and freedom will be hurt. And there's no question--
therefore, we need to deal with these insurgents.

But the president has mentioned repeatedly that he thinks every day about
it and meets with the families of the men and women who have given their
lives in Iraq.  They've given their lives for an incredibly noble cause. 
We did plan for the future.  There are some things you can plan for. 
There are some things that are harder to plan for, but I believe we're
doing a very important mission in Iraq, which is defeating the terrorists,
promoting democracy and you've seen throughout this spring what the
effects of that democracy have been in other Arab nations.

MR. RUSSERT:  The primary rationale given for the war, however, was the
elimination of weapons of mass destruction.  And again I refer you to the
memo of the prime minister's meeting.  "It seemed clear that Bush had made
up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet
decided.  But the case was thin.  Saddam was not threatening his
neighbours, and his WMD capability was less than half that of Libya, North
Korea and Iran."

MR. MEHLMAN:  Well, the president, I think, was responsible in saying we
need to simultaneously prepare for war and also try to avoid that war. 
There were simultaneous efforts at the diplomatic stages that were made
and yet at the same time it would have been irresponsible for us to say
we're going to wait and then plan for war later because we wouldn't have
had as effective an effort as we did to remove Saddam Hussein from power,
so we needed to do both at the same time.  I would also, though, disagree,
as I said a moment ago, with the notion that Iraq was somehow less of a
threat.  Iran and North Korea hadn't invaded their neighbors.  Iran and
North Korea hadn't used weapons of mass destruction.  Iran and North Korea
hadn't, in the same way that Saddam Hussein had, been paying off suicide
bombers in Israel and in the Palestinian territories.  Iran and North
Korea are serious challenges.  So was Saddam Hussein, and removing him
makes the world safer, makes America safer.

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