[pelaut] Urgently Required: 2/O 3/O for Oil-Chemical Tanker

2013-06-21 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, Currently we need 2/O and 3/O to join our Oil-Chem Tanker by the End of June. The vessel will sail around Asia with Filipino Top 4 and Indonesian Ratings with 6 months contract. The salary for 2/O is 3500 USD and 3000 USD for 3/O. The candidates must be able to communicate in

[pelaut] Urgently Required: Motorman/Fitter/Pumpman/Bosun for Oil-Chemical Tanker

2013-06-21 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, Currently we are looking for below positions to join our oil-chem tanker: -Motorman (1058 USD) -Fitter (1580 USD) - Must have Welding Certificate -Pumpman (1850 USD) -Bosun (1580 USD) -AB (1058 USD) -OS (781 USD) The vessel will sail worldwide with Mixed crew nationalities for 9

[pelaut] Urgently Required - Ratings for Cruide Oil Tankers - July 2013

2013-06-16 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, Currently we are preparing Ratings to join our Crude Oil Tankers beginning of July 2013. Here are the open positions: - Bosun - AB x 3 - OILER x 3 - FITTER - WIPER - OS - CCK - MESSMAN The candidates must have valid documents, experience in tankers and be able to communicate in

[pelaut] LOWONGAN PELAUT DI BSM - CRUDE OIL TANKER

2013-06-06 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dibutuhkan segera untuk 4 buah kapal tanker Kapal 1: join ahir Juni 2013 Kapal 2: join pertengahan Juli 2013 Kapal 3: join ahir Juli 2013 Kapal 4: Join awal Agustus 2013 Type kapal: Crude Oil GRT : 81,384 DWT : 158,589 Tahun Pembuatan: 2011 Bendera : Marshall Islands Dibutuhkan; Bosun - 1 X 4

[pelaut] Open Position: Bosun Motorman for Pro-Chem Tanker

2013-05-23 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, Urgently required Bosun (1485 USD)and Motorman (1206 USD)to join our Pro-Chem Tanker Asap.Here are vessel's information: - GRT: 28,552; DWT: 47,141; Engine type: BW - Trading: Worldwide (must have valid US Visa) - Mixed Crew Please send your updated CV to: -

[pelaut] Open Position: CO for Container

2013-04-29 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, Currently we're looking for good CO candidates to join our Container vessel on May 10th. The vessel is sailing around Asia: GRT 35,991 / DWT 42,045 / TEU 3,534; mixed crew nationalities, 6 months contract and the salary is 6800 USD. Please send your CV to: -

[pelaut] Open Position: Ratings for LPG vessel

2013-04-18 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, We are still looking for Ratings to join our LPG vessel this April 2013. The positions are Bosun, Pumpman, Fitter (must have welding certificate), Motorman (2),AB (2),OS, MSN and CCK; Worldwide trading area (US Visa if applicable)with European/East Asian Officers/Engineers on

[pelaut] Open Position: 3/E for Container

2013-04-08 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, We're urgently need 3/E to join our container vessel asap. The vessel will sail worldwide with mixed crew nationality onboard; GRT 26,671; DWT 34,600; TEU 2,602; MAN-BW 8S70MC-C and the salary is 3650 USD. Please send your update cv to our email: - pela...@bsm-indonesia.com -

[pelaut] Open Position: CE for Bulk Carrier

2013-03-28 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, Urgently need CE to join our Bulk Carrier this April. The vessel will sail worldwide, all Indonesian crew on board, GRT 24,168; DWT 37,152, Engine type: Wartsila 6RTA48T and the salary is 6800 USD. Please send your cv to our email: pela...@bsm-indonesia.com or directly come to our

[pelaut] Open Position: Chief Cook Fitter for Pro-Chem tanker

2013-03-27 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, We're currently looking for Chief Cook and Fitter candidates to join our Pro-Chem tanker this April. The vessel will sail worldwide (US Visa is a must); mixed crew nationality on board; GRT 8,455 DWT 12,900. Chief Cook must have experiences in cooking western food, making daily

[pelaut] Open Position: 2/E for Container Vessel

2013-03-19 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, Currently we're looking for good 2/E candidates to join our Container vessel this April 2013. Crew nationalites mix from Europe and East Asia; Asian trading; 6 months contract; GRT 35,991 / DWT 42,083; Salary 6800 USD; Engine Type: MAN-BW 7K90MC-C. Please send your CV to our

[pelaut] Open Position: Ratings for LPG vessel

2013-03-19 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, We are currently preparing Ratings to join our LPG vessel this April 2013. The positions are Bosun, Pumpman, Fitter (must have welding certificate), Motorman (2), AB (2), OS, MSN and CCK; Worldwide trading area (US Visa if applicable) with European/East Asian Officers/Engineers on

[pelaut] Open Position: Fitter for Pro-Chem Tanker

2013-03-14 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, We're currently searching for good FITTER candidates to join our Pro-Chem tanker Asap; GRT:28,552; DWT:47,141; Worldwide trading; salary: 1500usd; 9 months contract. Here are the requirements: 1. able to communicate in English 2. well experienced as Fitter 3. must have welding

[pelaut] Open Position: Master, CO, CE, 2E for LPG Vessel

2013-03-08 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, We're searching for good candidates to be placed in our LPG vessels. Here are the positions: 1. Master X 2 (required latest May) 2. CO (required ASAP) 3. CE X 1 (required latest May) 4. 2E x 1 These are our vessel's information: LPG Tanker: Navigator Pluto / Navigator Aries GRT:

[pelaut] Open Position: Electrician for Survey

2013-03-03 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, We're currently searching for good candidates of Electrician to join our survey vessel for 6 months contract this March. The salary is 2600 USD; Africa Europe trading; GRT 514, DWT 276; Engine Type:MAN. If you're interested, please send your CV to our email,

[pelaut] Open Position: 3O for Container

2013-02-27 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seaman, Urgently need 3O for container (5600 TEUs); worldwide trading; salary USD 3100; GRT 59,176/DWT 71,339; joining mid of March 2013. The candidates must have experiences in Container vessel and able to communicate in English. If you meet the requirements, please send your CV to:

[pelaut] Open Position : Master, CO, CE, 2E for LPG

2013-02-26 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, We're searching for good candidates to be placed in our LPG vessels. Here are the positions: 1. Master X 2 (required latest May) 2. CO (required ASAP) 3. CE X 1 (required latest May) 4. 2E x 1 These are our vessel's information: LPG Tanker: Navigator Pluto / Navigator Aries GRT:

[pelaut] Open Position: Electrician for Survey vessel

2013-02-12 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, We're currently searching for good candidates of Electrician to join our survey vessel for 6 months contract by the end of Feb. The salary is 2600 USD; Africa Europe trading; GRT 514, DWT 276; Engine Type:MAN. If you're interested, please send your CV to pela...@bsm-indonesia.com

[pelaut] Open Position : Bosun Pumpman for Oil/Chem Tanker

2013-02-10 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, We're currently searching for good candidates of BOSUN (1458 USD/Month) PUMPMAN (1850 USD/Month) to join our Oil/Chemical Tanker for 9 months contract by the beginning of March 2013. Here are the requirements: 1. Able to communicate in English 2. Having valid US Visa 3. Having

[pelaut] Open Position: CO CE for LPG Vessel

2013-02-10 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, We are currently searching for Good Candidates for CO CE to join our LPG Vessel soon. Here are the requirements: 1. Able to communicate in English 2. Having experiences in LPG vessels and this is our vessel's information: LPG Fully Refrigerated GRT: 17,840/18,311 DWT:

[pelaut] Open Position for Bosun Pumpman in Oil/Chemical Tanker

2013-02-05 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, We're currently searching for good candidates of BOSUN (1458 USD/Month) PUMPMAN (1850 USD/Month) to join our Oil/Chemical Tanker for 9 months contract by the beginning of March 2013. Here are the requirements: 1. Able to communicate in English 2. Having valid US Visa 3. Having

[pelaut] Open Position for CO CE in LPG vessel

2013-02-05 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, We are currently searching for Good Candidates for CO CE to join our LPG Vessel soon. Here are the requirements: 1. Able to communicate in English 2. Having experiences in LPG vessels and this is our vessel's information: LPG Fully Refrigerated GRT: 17,840/18,311 DWT:

[pelaut] BOSUN with US visa

2013-01-25 Terurut Topik Masbed
We are looking for a BOSUN with US visa for Tanker vessel. Please kindly email your updated CV / come to our office for direct interview: Sentra Pemuda 5-6, Jalan Pemuda Raya No. 61, Rawamangun, East Jakarta - 13220, Indonesia Tel: 021. 300 50 000 Email :pela...@bsm-indonesia.com

[pelaut] FITTER for Chemical Tanker

2013-01-22 Terurut Topik Masbed
Fitter needed ASAP + US Visa for Chemical Tanker with salary USD 1,458. please contact us at 021. 300 50 000 or email at pela...@bsm-indonesia.com You may come to office as well for interview at: Sentra Pemuda 5-6, Jalan Pemuda Raya No. 61, Rawamangun, East Jakarta - 13220, Indonesia Tel:

[pelaut] GAS ENGINEER needed ASAP

2013-01-16 Terurut Topik Masbed
Gas Engineer is needed URGENTLY ASAP!!! for LPG, trading at BATAM only. Salary 3,800 please kindly contact us as follows; BSM Crew Service Centre Indonesia Sentra Pemuda Kav 5-6, Jalan Pemuda No. 61, Rawamangun, Jakarta 13220 Office: +62 21 300 5 (Ext 105) Fax: +62 21 300 50010 Email:

[pelaut] 3OFF GAS ENGINEER needed ASAP

2013-01-11 Terurut Topik Masbed
We need the following positions to join ASAP: 1. 3OFF + US Visa for BULK vessel - Salary USD 2,700 (worldwide) 2. Gas Engineer for LPG vessel - Salary USD 3,800 (Indonesia water) NO FEES CHARGED. Interested applicant please come to our office at Sentra Pemuda 5-6, Jalan Pemuda Raya No. 61,

[pelaut] Re: OIL BARGE / SMALL TANKER - INDONESIA WATER

2013-01-10 Terurut Topik Masbed
by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Masbed Sender: pelaut@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:18:16 To: Reply-To: pelaut@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pelaut] Re: OIL BARGE / SMALL TANKER - INDONESIA WATER Bung Hersantino ATT-IV juga bisa diterima

[pelaut] MASTER FOR SURVEY

2013-01-09 Terurut Topik Masbed
Urgently need a MASTER for out SURVEY vessel ASAP. Kindly come to our office at Sentra Pemuda 5-6, Jalan Pemuda Raya No. 61, Rawamangun, East Jakarta - 13220, Indonesia. or call us at 021.300 5 / pela...@bsm-indonesia.com Thank you. 1.

[pelaut] DIBUTUHKAN CREW UTK TUG TONGKANG PALM OIL

2013-01-09 Terurut Topik Masbed
Selamat Malam Dibutuhkan full set crew Indonesia (18 orang) untuk tug + barge, cargo palm oil, area pelayaran lokal Indonesia. Rencana join; ahir bulan Januari 2013 Master; ANT-III, pengalaman min 6 bulan. C/Off; ANT-III, pengalaman min 6 bulan dgn handling palm oil. 2/Off; ANT-IV, pengalamn

[pelaut] Re: OIL BARGE / SMALL TANKER - INDONESIA WATER

2013-01-09 Terurut Topik Masbed
: Masbed Sender: pelaut@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:25:30 To: Reply-To: pelaut@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pelaut] OIL BARGE / SMALL TANKER - INDONESIA WATER URGENTLY need following positions: 1. Master - Salary USD 4,800 2. Chief Officer - Salary USD 4,000 3.2nd

[pelaut] OIL BARGE / SMALL TANKER - INDONESIA WATER

2013-01-07 Terurut Topik Masbed
URGENTLY need following positions: 1. Master - Salary USD 4,800 2. Chief Officer - Salary USD 4,000 3.2nd Officer - Salary USD 2,300 4. 3rd Officer - Salary USD 1,800 5. Chief Engineer - Salary USD 4,600 6. 2nd Engineer - Salary USD 4,000 7. 3rd Engineer - Salary USD 2,300 8. Bosun /

[pelaut] CHIEF OFFICER for BULK CARRIER URGENTLY ASAP!

2012-12-21 Terurut Topik Masbed
URGENTLY need a Chief Officer for Bulk Carrier with US visa preferably. please kindly call us at 021-300 50 000 / email your CV to pela...@bsm-indonesia.com or come to our office at: Sentra Pemuda Kav 5-6, Jalan Pemuda No. 61, Rawamangun, Jakarta 13220 Thank you.

[pelaut] Chief Officer and 4th Engineer needed URGENTLY

2012-12-19 Terurut Topik Masbed
we are urgently need Chief officer for Bulk Carrier and 4th Engineer for Chemical tanker ASAP. Please kindly send you CV to pela...@bsm-indonesia.com or come to our office at: Sentra Pemuda Kav 5-6, Jl. Pemuda No. 61, Rawamangun, Jakarta 13220 For more information, please call at 021-300 50

[pelaut] CHIEF OFFICER + US Visa ASAP

2012-12-18 Terurut Topik Masbed
Urgently need a Chief Officer for Bulk Carrier with US visa preferably. please kindly call us at 021-300 50 000 / email your CV to pela...@bsm-indonesia.com or come to our office at: Sentra Pemuda Kav 5-6, Jalan Pemuda No. 61, Rawamangun, Jakarta 13220 Thank you.

[pelaut] MASTER, C/ENG, and ELECTRICIAN needed ASAP

2012-12-14 Terurut Topik Masbed
Urgently need Master, Chief Engineer and Electrician for Survey vessel ASAP! please kindly email your updated CV to pela...@bsm-indonesia.com or call our office at 012-3005 ext 105. You may also come to our office located at: Sentra Pemuda Kav 5-6, Jalan Pemuda No. 61, Rawamangun, Jakarta

[pelaut] CHIEF OFFICER + US Visa ASAP

2012-12-13 Terurut Topik Masbed
Chief Officer with US visa is needed urgently for Bulk Carrier vessel. ALl crews on board are Indonesia. Please kindly come to our office at: Sentra Pemuda Kav 5-6 Jalan Pemuda No. 61 Rawamangun, Jakarta 13220 or send your updated CV to pela...@bsm-indonesia.com more infomation, please call

[pelaut] OFFICERS AND ENGINEER NEEDED FOR ASAP

2012-12-10 Terurut Topik Masbed
We urgently need as follows : 1. 2OFF - LPG - Local trading - ASAP 2. COFF - LPG - Local trading - ASAP 3. 2ENG - LPG - Local trading - ASAP 4. 4ENG - Chemical Tanker - Black sea trading - ASAP Please kindly come to our office at: Sentra Pemuda Kav 5-6, Jalan Pemuda No. 61, Rawamangun, Jakarta

[pelaut] MASTER, C/ENG, 2/ENG and FITTER needed ASAP

2012-11-28 Terurut Topik Masbed
we are urgently need above mentioned position with below details: 1. MASTER + US VISA for Container vessel 2. C/ENG for Survey vessel 3. 2/ENG + US VISA for Container vessel 4. FITTER + US VISA for LPG vessel please kindly send your CV to pela...@bsm-indonesia.com or come to our office at :

[pelaut] OPEN POSITION FOR 2ENG

2012-11-01 Terurut Topik Masbed
We need a 2ENG for LPG Fully Pressurized to join our vessel by Mid of Novemember 2012, wage: USD 8,250; DWT4428; GT 3494. Please call 0213005 ext 105 for more information and you may also send your email to pela...@bsm-indonesia.com. Thank you. 1.

[pelaut] CHIEF OFFICER for LPG needed ASAP!

2012-11-01 Terurut Topik Masbed
We are URGENTLY looking for a CHIEF OFFICER for LPG vessel..trading locally ASAP..please send your CV to pela...@bsm-indonesia.com or call 021.30050 000 . for more information you may call or come to our office. Thank you. 1. Moderator tidak

[pelaut] OPEN POSITION FOR 2ENG - CONTAINER

2012-11-01 Terurut Topik Masbed
We need a 2ENG for Container vessel that will be joining on 16 November 2012. Those who are in possession of US visa is preferred but also acceptable without US visa as well. Please kindly send your CV to pela...@bsm-indonesia.com or call 021.300 50 000 ext 105. Thank you.

[pelaut] 2/ENG and C/ENG needed URGENTLY! ASAP!!

2012-10-29 Terurut Topik Masbed
We are urgently looking for a qualified 2/ENG for LPG vessel joining by MID of NOVEMBER 2012 and C/Eng for Container vessel joining by 9th NOVEMBER 2012. Please kindly email your CV asap to us at pela...@bsm-indonesia.com For more information, please kindly contact our office 021.3005 ext 105

[pelaut] CCK for LPG vessel

2012-10-24 Terurut Topik Masbed
Urgently need a Chief Cook for LPG vessel asap with US VISA. please come to our office or send your CV to pela...@bsm-indonesia.com..more information please visit our website at bsm-indonesia.com 1. Moderator tidak bertanggung jawab atas kebenaran

[pelaut] FITTER URGENTLY NEEDED ASAP!!!

2012-10-24 Terurut Topik Masbed
We URGENTLY need a FITTER with US VISA and also HOLDING WELDING CERTIFICATE to join our BULK CARRIER vessel in November. Please kindly contact us at 021.3005 wiht ext 105 or come to our office at Sentra Pemuda Kav 5-6, Jalan Pemuda No. 61, Rawamangun, Jakarta. [Non-text portions of this

[pelaut] CHIEF COOK NEEDED --- URGENT!!

2012-10-23 Terurut Topik Masbed
We need 2 Chief Cook urgently for November 2012 with US visa. Please send your CV to pela...@bsm-indonesia.com or come to our office at Sentra Pemuda Kav 5-6, Jalan Pemuda No.61, Rawamangun, Jakarta;office number:021-3005 ext 105. Thank you. 1.

[pelaut] 2/ENG needed URGENTLY!

2012-10-16 Terurut Topik Masbed
Urgently need 2/E for container vessels and world wide trading, if you are interested kindly come to BSM office or send your Update CV to pela...@bsm-indonesia.com for more info please call (021) 3005. Thank you. 1. Moderator tidak bertanggung

[pelaut] URGENT OPEN POSITION FOR MASTER C/ENG

2012-09-19 Terurut Topik Masbed
Urgently need a Master and a Chief Engineer for Bulk Carrier (GT 23270 , DWT 3700) with valid US Visa ASAP. Master - USD 7000 C/ENG - USD 6800 Please kindly email your CV to us or come to our office for interview. Email : pela...@bsm-indonesia.com Address: Sentra Pemuda, Jalan Pemuda No.

[pelaut] CRANE OPERATOR NEEDED!

2012-09-17 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear All, We need a Crane Operator for Production/ Storage (FPSO) vessel for End of October 2012. Contract duration: 1 month on/off Wages: USD 1833 Trading Area: Angola Requirements: 1. English active 2. Hold level 3 Sparrow certificate 3. Hold valid Basic certificates, Passport and

[pelaut] DIBUTUHKAN FULL SET CREW UNTUK KAPAL BULK CARRIER

2012-09-03 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear All Seamen, We are glad to advise you, after successfully manned first new vessel MV INTERLINK PARITY with full Indonesian Crew, the second vessel or the sister vessel, MV INTERLINK EQUITY, also will be manned by full Indonesian crew. Vessel is scheduled for sea-trial around 24-Sep-2012.

[pelaut] DIBUTUHKAN FULL SET CREW UNTUK KAPAL BULK CARRIER

2012-08-28 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear All Seamans, We are glad to advise you, after successfully manned first new vessel MV INTERLINK PARITY with full Indonesian Crew, the second vessel or the sister vessel, MV INTERLINK EQUITY, also will be manned by full Indonesian crew. Vessel is scheduled for sea-trial around 24-Sep-2012.

[pelaut] OPEN POSITION FOR LPG, BULK CARRIER CHEMICAL TANKER

2012-07-16 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, Please be informed that we URGENTLY need: * LPG TANKER (Semi Refrigerated) 1. Master 2. C/O 3. 2/E Note: - local trading area (worldwide trading for 2/E) - at least 2 exp in LPG vessels - good English is a Must - GT 17840 ; DWT 23495 - Salary: USD 11.320 for Master ; USD 8.670 for

[pelaut] OPEN POSITION FOR LPG, BULK CARRIER CHEMICAL TANKER

2012-07-05 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Seamen, Please be informed that we URGENTLY need: * LPG TANKER (Semi Refrigerated) 1. Master 2. C/O 3. 2/E Note: - local trading area (worldwide trading for 2/E) - at least 2 exp in LPG vessels - good English is a Must - GT 17840 ; DWT 23495 - Salary: USD 11.320

[pelaut] C/OFF - LPG TANKER

2012-01-11 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear all Needed urgently 2 X C/Off for LPG Tanker trading Indonesia only DWT: 23000 GRT: 17800 contract 6 months salary 7000usd Remarks: Candidate must have experiences on LPG tanker with large tonnage Requirements: A. Have experiences min. 2 years as Chief Officer. B. Valid all documents +

[pelaut] ***** Lowongan Pelaut di BSM *****

2012-01-07 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear All Below is complete list of open position: Vessel: Christoph Schulte / LPG Tanker / 9110 GT / 10309 DWT / Flag Singapore Required: - C/Off, - C/Eng, - Elect, - 2 x AB, - Elect, - Cook, - Messman Vessel: LADY HILDE / LPG Tanker / 2998 GT / 3183 DWT / Flag Singapore

[pelaut] LOWONGAN PELAUT

2011-10-09 Terurut Topik Masbed
Need urgently 2/Eng LPG Tanker: 1. MT. DANCING BRAVE / Singapore / 17087 GT contract 6 months, wage 8500 USD (all in) Requirements: ATT-II / 24 months in rank as 2/E, experience LPG tanker, experience larger tonnage 2. MT. GOLDEN MILLER/ Bahamas / 11361 GT contract 4 months, wage 8245 USD

[pelaut] OPEN POSITION in BSM

2011-10-06 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear all Folowing open position 1) Cargo Supervisor 1 for MV. KUITO, to join once Angolan visa ready 2) Cargo Superintendent for MV. KUITO, to join once Angolan visa ready 3) Instrument Technician for MV. SAXI BATUQUE, to join once Angolan visa ready 4) Electrical Instrument Supervisor for MV.

[pelaut] OPEN POSITION 2/ENG - LPG TANKER

2011-09-29 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Popeye Need urgenthly 2/Eng LPG Tanker: 1. MT. DANCING BRAVE / Singapore / 17087 GT contract 6 months, wage 8500 USD (all in) 2. MT. GOLDEN MILLER/ Bahamas / 11361 GT contract 4 months, wage 8245 USD (all in) For ship's particular please check in Equasis website. Requirement: 1.

[pelaut] Re: Share

2011-06-07 Terurut Topik Masbed
Dear Popeye Carriage of chemicals in bulk is covered by regulations in SOLAS Chapter VII - Carriage of dangerous goods and MARPOL Annex II - Regulations for the Control of Pollution by Noxious Liquid Substances in Bulk. Both Conventions require chemical tankers built after 1 July 1986 to

[pelaut] Re: ECDIS

2011-02-05 Terurut Topik Masbed
ECDIS (Electronic Chart Display Information System), displaying ENC (electronic Navigation Chart) are recognized under SOLAS regulation. Therefore if flag state approved, the system may be used as primary source of navigational information in place of paper charts, then required Navigation