[PEN-L:10591] Re: Sokolowski's cat

1997-06-06 Thread Terrence Mc Donough
Wojtek argues that irreducibility "would only hold if the universe we study was neatly divided into compartments corresponding to the respective disciplines." Of course at the molecular level the universe is continuous and not compartmentalized. At the level of explanation, phenomena do

[PEN-L:10592] labor films

1997-06-06 Thread Francisco P. Cipolla
Has anybody mencioned The Global Assembly line yet? I used to show this documentary about capital flight from the States into Mexico and Phillipines to my students at the Labor College (The Van Arsdale School of Labor Studies-Sunny). It documents labor capital conflict in the States as well as in

[PEN-L:10596] Questions on Globalization

1997-06-06 Thread William S. Lear
Doug Henwood questions "the globalization mania" in the latest LBO [#77] with statistics that show that intrafirm (imports + exports) trade slightly decreased from 1977 to 1994 (from 30% of U.S. trade to 29%). He cites other statistics which show some types of intrafirm transfer increased, but

[PEN-L:10598] FW: BLS Daily Report

1997-06-06 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 4, 1997 "New data on muliple jobholding available from the CPS" by John F. Stinson, Jr., an economist in the Office of Employment and Unemployment Statistics of BLS, is reprinted in the Daily Labor Report (page E-37). In the opening story (page A-5), the

[PEN-L:10603] Re: French elections

1997-06-06 Thread Karl Carlile
JERRY: I have no such confidence in the role of "radical intellectuals" to bring about change *especially* when those RIs view the line of communication to the masses as one-way (as above). A preliminary step for activism might be for the RIs to *listen* to what working people have to say and to

[PEN-L:10605] Re: French elections Retitled: Limit the Working Day?

1997-06-06 Thread Laurence Shute
Limiting the working day is all right, but does that really deal with the issues facing workers today? Isn't job security and freedom from Orwellian "downsizing" and "outsourcing" more of an issue? Don't we need to ask some of the basic questions: Is production of goods more important in

[PEN-L:10607] Copy of: Labor films

1997-06-06 Thread Paolo Giussani
-- Forwarded Message -- From: Paolo Giussani, 106642,534 TO: FACRICEL, INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DATE: 03/06/97 05:57 RE: Copy of: Labor films On Sat, May 31, 1997 at 08:33:39 (-0700) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am teaching a course this summer based on movies.

[PEN-L:10608] Re: eurobullishit

1997-06-06 Thread Michael Perelman
I wanted to say how much I appreciated much that has transpired on pen-l recently. Almost everything has been constructive. Today I received a number of posts from K.C. Each took a short snippet from a post, declared it to be bullshit, and then proclaimed the correct political line. I don't

[PEN-L:10612] bad writing [another contribution?]

1997-06-06 Thread James Devine
I was shocked, shocked!, to note that no economists were given awards for their bad writing. Bad writing need not be obscure. It can also be leaden or lifeless, excessively prosaic or ungrammatical. Of course, the main reason why economists were not honored by these awards is that most of our

[PEN-L:10614] Re: French elections

1997-06-06 Thread Doug Henwood
Tavis Barr wrote: I'd believe it. I just think we're talking about different political circles. You claim to have identified groups working on specific, local issues. That may indeed be true, but I don't think that's what's wrong with the above mentioned organizations. I think you've

[PEN-L:10620] Re: FW: Daily Report

1997-06-06 Thread Michael Eisenscher
Does anyone else fine this to be more than a bit off? At 11:59 AM 6/6/97 -0700, Richardson_D wrote: BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, JUNE 5, 1997: Fueled by the issue of quality changes, the CPI debate rolls on, says Business Week (June 9, page 68). Among the quotes is one that says a Boskin

[PEN-L:10622] MAI Canadian Soverignty (fwd)

1997-06-06 Thread D Shniad
MAI --THE MULTINATIONALS' CHARTER OF RIGHTS COLUMN NUMBER 1 approx June 1, 1997 By HUBERT BEYER VICTORIA, BC, Canada - A couple of weeks back, I wrote a piece on the Multilateral Agreement on Investment, and how it could be that Canada, along with 28 other

[PEN-L:10623] Silent Coup Tony Clarke (fwd)

1997-06-06 Thread D Shniad
Date:Fri, 6 Jun 1997 07:43:13 -0400 From: ccpa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Silent Coup Book Release Big Business Remains the Real Election Winner Come hear Tony Clarke outline the new politics in the era of corporate rule and launch his new book SILENT COUP: Confronting

[PEN-L:10624] Bad writing competition

1997-06-06 Thread ZAHNISER STEVEN SCOTT
I think that we should all be on the lookout for something from economics to submit to this competition (hopefully something not written by me). Steven Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PEN-L:10627] response to query (fwd)

1997-06-06 Thread D Shniad
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jun 5 20:35 PDT 1997 Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 23:32:17 + From: "Andrews, David R" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: response to query Sid, I'll resond to your inquiry, but I hope you will post the results to PEN-L. Formally, I belong to

[PEN-L:10630] Re: Political Holiday Song

1997-06-06 Thread MScoleman
While I realize that this is about 6 months too early or 5 months too late, it seems appropriate given the discussion on left/right/center for France and Britain. maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -A POLITICAL HOLIDAY Twas the night before Christmas and throughout the White House, Al Gore was

[PEN-L:10634] Re: French elections

1997-06-06 Thread MScoleman
In a message dated 97-06-06 13:42:10 EDT, you write: I think that for all kinds of reasons, we actually have to be _in_ the communities we're trying to change. For some of us, this may mean unions, or campaings for/against various things (workfare, police brutality, a living wage) run by the

[PEN-L:10637] Americans Israelis Threatened...may be just the beginning (fwd)

1997-06-06 Thread Shawgi A. Tell
FYI Shawgi Tell Graduate School of Education University at Buffalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 19:35:57 -0700 From: MID-EAST REALITIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Americans Israelis Threatened...may be just the

[PEN-L:10639] Re: FW: Daily Report

1997-06-06 Thread blairs
Does anyone else fine this to be more than a bit off? At 11:59 AM 6/6/97 -0700, Richardson_D wrote: BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, JUNE 5, 1997: Fueled by the issue of quality changes, the CPI debate rolls on, says Business Week (June 9, page 68). Among the quotes is one that says a Boskin panel

[PEN-L:10640] Re: Reply To Tom

1997-06-06 Thread Tom Walker
Shawgi, You said the people in the U.S. don't hold political power (we were talking about Canada, but what the hell) and they're extremely unhappy with the political system. Sure. But then you said "in order for society to move forward, people must first have real and decisive decision-making

[PEN-L:10641] Re: French elections Retitled: Limit the Working Day?

1997-06-06 Thread Tom Walker
Colin Danby wrote, So here's a question. Actually, several. Other things being equal a shorter working day would probably be a good thing. Stop me if you've heard this one but other things are never equal. I'm currently mining a book titled _Reduced Working Hours: Cure for Unemployment or

[PEN-L:10636] Re: labor films

1997-06-06 Thread Thad Williamson
One more that hasn't been mentioned yet (I think): Grapes of Wrath w/Henry Fonda, quite a radical movie with vivid portrayal of migrant labor. Might go well alongside one of the contemporary documentaries on labor conditions the UFW has. Thad

[PEN-L:10635] Re: French elections

1997-06-06 Thread MScoleman
In a message dated 97-06-06 18:48:36 EDT, you write: Organizing the very poor, for example, is extremely complicated. Poor people are highly overworked and have very little time. You usually have to have all your meetings on Saturday and Sunday afternoons, or else right at the end of the

[PEN-L:10633] Response to Anders

1997-06-06 Thread D Shniad
Anders asks a series of questions, basically asking why French Social Democracy couldn't pursue a progressive program designed to transform or derail the current (reactionary) trajectory of European unification. Cutting to the chase, it seems to me that your real question is this:

[PEN-L:10632] Re: French elections

1997-06-06 Thread MScoleman
In a message dated 97-06-05 19:35:35 EDT, you write: Practical and theoretical action, at least in the U.S., has been focused on developing a micropolitics, but it seems to me that unless these atoms talk to each other, dispersion and defeat will continue. Doug Are we talking party? maggie

[PEN-L:10631] Re: French elections

1997-06-06 Thread MScoleman
In a message dated 97-06-05 16:20:59 EDT, you write: Michael, you have a point here, but it's not enough to talk about the grass roots. Of course any seriously radical movement needs a mass base, but that's not enough. Most ordinary folks are completely confused by what's going on and feel

[PEN-L:10629] Re: Bitter Paradise on TV Ontario (fwd)

1997-06-06 Thread William S. Lear
On Fri, June 6, 1997 at 15:25:57 (-0700) D Shniad writes: BITTER PARADISE: THE SELL-OUT OF EAST TIMOR Is it possible to order a copy of this on videotape? Bill

[PEN-L:10628] Re: French elections

1997-06-06 Thread Doug Henwood
D Shniad wrote: If this is the case, Doug, what should French folks have done in the context of the recent election? Pretty much what they did. People in the streets have to keep the pressure on. Doug

[PEN-L:10626] MAI Web Site Report (fwd)

1997-06-06 Thread D Shniad
NOW Magazine, Toronto June 5, 1997 Netizens out secret investment treaty Cyberspace new player in furtive top-level negotiations By COLMAN JONES Secret negotiations on a global investment treaty that threatens to greatly strengthen the power of transnational corporations aren't

[PEN-L:10625] Re: French elections

1997-06-06 Thread D Shniad
If this is the case, Doug, what should French folks have done in the context of the recent election? Cheers, Sid A not-entirely-fanciful scenario: the new French government fails even in its weak program, unemployment remains high, and the National Front gains in appeal. So the sans papiers

[PEN-L:10621] Bitter Paradise on TV Ontario (fwd)

1997-06-06 Thread D Shniad
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 14:20:35 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Webster) Subject: Bitter Paradise on TV Ontario BITTER PARADISE: THE SELL-OUT OF EAST TIMOR Screens on TV Ontario this Sunday, June 15, at 9 p.m. (Province of Ontario only) Bitter Paradise is

[PEN-L:10619] Re: French elections Retitled: Limit the

1997-06-06 Thread Louis Proyect
Colin Danby: The obvious argument (Louis might want to say more on this) is that something has happened to make the social democratic project unstable or untenable. Either something broke down at the political level, or the nature of capitalism has changed (this is the implication of much of

[PEN-L:10617] Re: French elections Retitled: Limit the Working Day?

1997-06-06 Thread Colin Danby
So here's a question. Actually, several. Other things being equal a shorter working day would probably be a good thing. In fact the whole social democratic program, limited though it may be, would probably be vastly preferable to what we're getting now. So where are the social democrats? The

[PEN-L:10616] Reply To Tom

1997-06-06 Thread Shawgi A. Tell
Greetings, On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Tom Walker wrote: Shawgi Tell asked, Tom what do you think is needed to move society forward? I posed this question to Michael yesterday. Hope to hear from the both of you and others. I will begin with a brief citation, which not only sums up my own

[PEN-L:10615] Re: eurobullishit

1997-06-06 Thread Karl Carlile
KARL: Ha, ha..You still have not responded to any of what you call snippets especially the snippet concerning the Euro. After all the guy was talking rubbish and needed to be inofrmed of this. Karl --- I wanted to say

[PEN-L:10613] FW: Daily Report

1997-06-06 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, FRIDAY, JUNE 6, 1997: RELEASED TODAY: Nonfarm payroll employment rose in May, and unemployment was about unchanged after falling in April. The number of payroll jobs rose by 138,000 in May, following an increase of 323,000 in April (as revised). The May gain was below

[PEN-L:10611] FW: Daily Report

1997-06-06 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, JUNE 5, 1997: There's a continuing debate over whether the rise in global competition has been good or bad for the average American worker's wages, but there is little disagreement among economists that it has been an important force in keeping U.S. inflation low.

[PEN-L:10610] Re: French elections Retitled: Limit the Working Day?

1997-06-06 Thread Tom Walker
Larry Shute wrote, Limiting the working day is all right, but does that really deal with the issues facing workers today? Isn't job security and freedom from Orwellian "downsizing" and "outsourcing" more of an issue? Don't we need to ask some of the basic questions: Is production of goods more

[PEN-L:10609] Re: French elections

1997-06-06 Thread Tavis Barr
On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, Doug Henwood wrote: What can I say? The activists I've talked with and reported on don't sound very much like the ones you describe. A recent confirmation of my analysis was provided in a good little report on welfare reform by Rachel Timoner for the Applied Research

[PEN-L:10604] Re: eurobullishit

1997-06-06 Thread Karl Carlile
COLIN: I'm agreed that the euro is a terrible idea (both because it enforces a Europe-wide recession aimed at forcing down real wages and because I don't think the undermining of lender-of-last-resort functions has been considered seriously enough). So this has been a week of unbounded

[PEN-L:10602] Re: euro

1997-06-06 Thread Karl Carlile
LOUIS P: The vote in France is dramatic evidence that openings exist for socialist politics. A renaissance is not only desirable but urgently necessary. The big lesson of the 1930s is that when the left stands pat with parliamentary cretinism, the masses will seek revolutionary solutions

[PEN-L:10601] Re: Labor films

1997-06-06 Thread Karl Carlile
ROBIN: I've been off line, but if nobody mentioned Norma Rae starring Sally Fields, I liked that as a labor film especially as it portrays the character of a union organizer and a local activist (Sally Fields) very well. Surprisingly, I think it was more of a Hollywood film than others such as

[PEN-L:10600] Re: French elections

1997-06-06 Thread Karl Carlile
I think that for all kinds of reasons, we actually have to be _in_ the communities we're trying to change. For some of us, this may mean unions, or campaings for/against various things (workfare, police brutality, a living wage) run by the people who are effected most by them. Ultimately,

[PEN-L:10599] Re: French elections

1997-06-06 Thread Doug Henwood
Ajit Sinha wrote: For example, in France there is a good chance that the so-called "people without papers" will be able to stay and not deported. A not-entirely-fanciful scenario: the new French government fails even in its weak program, unemployment remains high, and the National Front gains

[PEN-L:10597] Re: labor films

1997-06-06 Thread Ellen Dannin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One excellent film on the globalisation of labor is "The Emperor's New Clothes" from the Canadian Film Board. Its main focus is NAFTA, viewed on many levels, concluding with a visit by Canadian auto workers to a Mexican plant where the work Canadians did is now being done. This is a very

[PEN-L:10595] Re: French elections

1997-06-06 Thread Paul Zarembka
Ajit, I think you missed at least my point: The Socialists get elected, and they perform far below expectations (but yes some people are concretely aided), that sets up a reaction which (given the dominant parties) is to the right and more right than before the first Mitterand election. In the

[PEN-L:10594] Commentary on the French Elections by a class-conscious German

1997-06-06 Thread Louis Proyect
June 6, 1997 The Doomsayers Are Wrong By NORBERT WALTER FRANKFURT -- With 11 of 15 European governments now led by Socialists or other social democrats, European voters seem to be united in resisting tough economic medicine à la Margaret Thatcher. The trend toward privatization, vital to

[PEN-L:10593] Re: Response to Max (or, my plan for the Froggies)

1997-06-06 Thread Anders Schneiderman
At 02:00 PM 6/5/97 -0700, Sid wrote: Sid (from British Columbia -- but hey, all those Canadian provinces look alike): The difficulty isn't with the "case", Max. The difficulty is with the fact that we're only in the beginning of the process of saying "no" to the plans that transnational