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Sid Shniad wrote:
Chicago Tribune 11 January 1999
INDIA'S NOBEL LAUREATE A PROPHET WITHOUT PORTFOLIO
By Uli Schmetzer, Tribune Foreign Correspondent
I am still on the road with inadequate access to the Internet. It seems
that we are still trying to flog the NOI question.
It seems inappropriate on several levels.
1. It is repeating itself. Nothing new is coming from this.
2. It is too personal. One lesson I get from Marx is that you
Louis Proyect wrote:
Marxism transcends Marx himself.
Does that have anything to do with why Marx said he was no Marxist?
Doug
Of course this assumes one is not using the Julian calendar. The millenium will
then begin at midnight on January 13 2001 (our calendar). Since all this is
obviously a social construction
and since my neighbours mostly use the Julian calendar this is New Years Eve
and tomorrow begins 1999. Happy
On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Louis Proyect wrote:
I don't mean that she is for "identity". All I am saying is that she is an
academic theorist who makes her living participating in sterile debates
around such questions. I think you are misunderstanding the entire context
of the term
"Self" need not refer to an individual. It can also refer to group or
national or class self-determination.
Otherwise, I generally agree with what Charles writes:
You are correct, very correct
to point to the SELF in self-determination.
This is a critical point in developing
the Marxist theory
from SLATE magazine:
The National Security Agency, has, according to the Washington Post,
identified
and responded to a new potential threat to its supersupersupersecret
spy operations. Henceforth, headquarters are off-limits to Furbys.
Spooks who have already brought the toys into their
And here's a virtual real-ity check mangled headline from CBC
Marketwatch:
YAHOO FALLS LOWER DUE RESIGNATION OF BRAZIL'S CENTRAL BANK CHIEF.
We took our honeymoon in Yahoo Falls.
Wonderful place.
mbs
Courtesy of a colleague of mine.
[Warning: this post contains no ad hominem remarks,
slurs, viciousness, slander, ruthless criticism,
race-baiting, complaints, or other negative vibes.]
1. Understand that Xerox and Wurlitzer were going to merge. They're
going to make reproductive organs.
2. A
Doug:
"...the multifarious, crosscutting ways that race and class - and gender -
swirl together to form experience and self-perception..."
- Adolph Reed, WEB Du Bois and American Political Thought, p. 170
Unfortunately, the Lingua Franca profile on Reed, which focuses on this
book, is not
But, Angela,
Whatever the name of Butler's theory,
that perspective doesn't have a
monopoly on the thinking of young
people today. I have 25 young
people here who are Black and
proud, African centered, admires
of Malcolm X, whatever.
They don't agree with decentering
their subjects.
You
While you're up, get me a Schwab's.
Here's the reply of a correspondent of mine
in the Deep South to Tom Lehman's post.
valis
.
Subject: [PEN-L:2118] Charles Schwab
Dear Pen-L, (I posted this
Louis Proyect wrote:
Reed does not understand, however, that the
antidote to the malaise of black intellectuals is not in the sort of
workerism he preaches. Instead it is in understanding the dialectical
connection between class and nation.
"...the multifarious, crosscutting ways that race and
Seth wrote:
Lou,
I've got a question for you. What's your definition of "identity
politics"?
This seems to be an invention of tenured left professors in the 1970s. I
never even knew such a term existed until I got on the Internet. It seems
to go hand-in-hand with gay studies, feminists
"For most of this century, the left has severely diminished its chances of
doing anything constructive by virtue of its attachment to--and eagerness
to explain away the devastation wrought by--a bunch of very nasty dictators.
does this refer to the willingness of social democrats to
At 11:16 PM 1/12/99 -0600, you wrote:
A letter to the editor of the Winnipeg Sun maintains that the
millenium doesn't begin until
Jan 1, 2001. Is that right? Bill Hamm, the author, claims that
the first year AD was year 1. AD did not begin with year 0.
Therefore, it will be on Jan 1, 2001 that a
Global markets rattled as Brazil allows real slide
LONDON, Jan 13 (Reuters) - World stock markets and the dollar tumbled on
Wednesday as Brazil announced an effective devaluation of its currency,
loosening the centrepice of its economic policy after months of capital flight.
Early reports of
Lou,
I've got a question for you. What's your definition of "identity
politics"?
Here in Sacramento, the Monthly Review discussion group I'm a part of
recently met to consider Johanna Brenner's 11/98 article that is partly
about "identity politics."
It was one of the most lively discussions
Two of Doug Henwood's reservations to his November 'crisis is over' (for
now) thesis were: if the Brazialian fix came unstuck and if speculative
excess returned to the financial markets. Arguably both of those have
happened -- with gusto. Are we now back full force in the crisis, Doug?
Tom
Dear Pen-L, (I posted this yesterday to the LBOers)
Charles Schwab is doing some big time TV reassurance advertising in the
Cleveland media market. The commercial that Schwab is running reminds
me of a downscale version of the HarryLouise medical insurance ads.
Two rather lumpy characters who
The January effect fizzled within 2 weeks of the new year.
Last night, while most in America was still deep in their dreams of
perpetually rising stock markets, equity markets on the other side of
the globe began its first wave of meltdown in 1999.
As I am typing (9:42 am EST) both the DJIA and
Angela:
when those like doug and myself and others are trying to grapple with
these
issues, and grapple we are - we don't have easy answers, and are not
entirely
convinced by the certainties put forward by louis or charles or ken -,
to get
jumped on with accusations that border on a kind of panic
Quoth Louis, in part:
Doug, we are trying to establish whether Nation of Islam security guards
are embryonic forms of American fascism or something more akin to bean pie
salesmen. The answer to these sorts of questions resides in such mundane
places as Lexis-Nexis or articles in the left
apologies michael for extending this, but i thought it might be
important to situate this debate for those who have not read the
entirety of it.
Doug Henwood wrote:
Louis Proyect wrote:
If anything, there is a strange disjunction in your thinking on
so-called identity politics, where you
The January effect fizzled within 2 weeks of the new year.
My theory is the Brazilians were just waiting for Doug and Louis to get into
a flame war so they could slip one past Pen-L.
Tom Walker
http://www.vcn.bc.ca/timework/
Quoth Tom W:
The January effect fizzled within 2 weeks of the new year.
My theory is the Brazilians were just waiting for Doug and Louis
to get into a flame war so they could slip one past Pen-L.
True, we're The Thin Red Line. Stick with it, class.
At 02:33 AM 1/14/99 +1100, you wrote:
louis,
issues such as self-determination - which you say you are defending -
have everything to do with the question of identity and its relation
to politics and organisation.
angela
Angela, you are projecting an academic construct on living struggles
Henry,
Perhaps the puncturing of the speculative bubble you write of will
dampen the bipartisan support to "save" Social Security by investing
public funds in private financial markets, no?
Seth Sandronsky
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:14:20 -0800
From: "Henry C.K. Liu" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
OK, but in the circles I've was in,
_Malcolm X Speaks_ was always
discussed as reflecting exactly
the changes in Malcolm's life
near its end. The autobio also
includes the break with Elijah
Muhammed, which is also the
beginning of his accelerating
progressivity at the end
Charles Brown
Bill
Tom Walker wrote:
Two of Doug Henwood's reservations to his November 'crisis is over' (for
now) thesis were: if the Brazialian fix came unstuck and if speculative
excess returned to the financial markets. Arguably both of those have
happened -- with gusto. Are we now back full force in the
butler is not an identity theorist. you are. when you speak of the
need for self-determination, you advance a whole set of assumptions,
assumptions which are manifested in practice, in activism, and in the
forms of organization, about the SELF that you argue needs to be
SELF-determined.
angela
Seth:
Perhaps and perhaps not.
One possibility is that market insecurity will finally be recognized as an
inappropriate basisi social security.
The second possibility is tthat he establishment will see social security as
a convenient tool to save a collapsing market.
When Las Vagas begins to
And here's a virtual real-ity check mangled headline from CBC Marketwatch:
YAHOO FALLS LOWER DUE RESIGNATION OF BRAZIL'S CENTRAL BANK CHIEF.
Huh?
Tom Walker
http://www.vcn.bc.ca/timework/
As for the Second Coming of Christ, well, the latest
best estimate is that he was probably born in 4 B.C.E.
That means that we have already passed his 2000th birthday
and are in the third millennium from that particular
apocalyptic perspective. Whew, made it!
Barkley Rosser
On Wed, 13
In 1998, the liberal Federal Reserve Bank of Boston was actually a stern
proponent of tighter monetary policy while the conservative Dallas Fed led the
charge for interest rate cuts. Read about it in a new Financial Markets
Center report on "Discount Rate Actions in 1998" - and catch a glimpse
At 01:24 PM 1/13/99 -0500, Barkley Rosser wrote:
As for the Second Coming of Christ, well, the latest
best estimate is that he was probably born in 4 B.C.E.
That means that we have already passed his 2000th birthday
and are in the third millennium from that particular
apocalyptic
Max wrote,
And here's a virtual real-ity check mangled headline from CBC
Marketwatch:
YAHOO FALLS LOWER DUE RESIGNATION OF BRAZIL'S CENTRAL BANK CHIEF.
We took our honeymoon in Yahoo Falls.
Wonderful place.
mbs
That's on the Amazon.com river, eh?
Tom Walker
Dennis:
But Lou, academia nowadays is just another extension of the factory
system, and the whole question of the self and subjectivity is the
*essence* of Marxism.
No, the question of the self and subjectivity is the essence of bourgeois
thought. Marx wrote about in his earlier work, but by
Wasn't that comment in response to a particularly annoying partisan of
a small Marxist club -- one who insisted on pestering Marx without
mercy, publishing g really bad translations of his works. I think the
essay that finally provoked Marx into the "I am not a Marxist"
outburst, was one that
It was his son-in-law.
Gar Lipow wrote:
Wasn't that comment in response to a particularly annoying partisan of
a small Marxist club -- one who insisted on pestering Marx without
mercy, publishing g really bad translations of his works. I think the
essay that finally provoked Marx into the
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From: Gunder Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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