On Monday, February 14, 2000 at 12:50:11 (-0800) Brad De Long writes:
CB: The U.S. imperialists carried out a war circa 1950 and still
occupy the Southern part of the country. The U.S. still has 30,000
troops and nuclear weapons there.
I thought that Bruce Cumings's claim that South Korean
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I wrote:
BS believed that the underlying tendency of a "monopoly" capitalist
economy was to sink toward what they saw as the normal state, a 1930s-type
depression. This ignores Marx's critique of an earlier generation of
underconsumptionists, i.e., that there is a strongly dynamic side to
Today's L.A. TIMES explains the phenomenon of the "baby boom" and its
contribution to history by listing the following individuals: Bill Clinton,
Cher, Reggie Jackson, Donald Trump and Pat Sajak (and that's the complete
list).
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://liberalarts.lmu.edu/~jdevine
In a message dated 00-02-15 12:08:20 EST, you write:
Today's L.A. TIMES explains the phenomenon of the "baby boom" and its
contribution to history by listing the following individuals: Bill Clinton,
Cher, Reggie Jackson, Donald Trump and Pat Sajak (and that's the complete
list).
Marx and Engels wrote:
"In these crises there breaks out an epidemic that, in all earlier
epochs would have seemed an absurdity, the epidemic of overproduction.
Society suddenly finds itself put back into a state of momentary
barbarism; it appears as if a famine, a universal war of devastation
Brad De Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/14/00 04:00PM
Brad:
Baran and Sweezy lie?
No, they were correct.
Louis Proyect
Then I'll withdraw and let you and CB argue it out...
CB: This retreat must because you lost the argument.
CB
Chris Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/15/00 02:41AM
As my similar post entitled "Economic Problems of Socialism" indicates, I
agree with Jim about not dismissing B S's arguments even if with
hindsight they are wrong.
On the particular point above, I would make this comment:
While the stock
Brad De Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/14/00 04:13PM
But if you are on the global offensive, the claim that your
hypertrophied military budget is forced on you by *necessity* is
rather weak...
But you and Louis can dispute whether really-existing-socialism was
the aggressive wave of the
Brad De Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/14/00 04:47PM
CB: We don't have to debate anything, because we haven't disagreed
on what you say.
Socialism as "The aggressive wave of the future " [over 1945-1980]
is your continuous falsehood alone, here.
Ummm...
It's Baran and Sweezy's. Go debate
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/15/00 11:37AM
Though many "orthodox" Marxists simply dismiss underconsumptionism as
somehow being heresy, I think that this is an invalid generalization of
Marx's valid critiques of what I called "an earlier generation of
underconsumptionists" above and
I don't think quoting Marx Lenin really settles the debate here, since
one can easily find quotes from both against the role of (personal)
consumption in causing crises. Among other things, Marx left his crisis
theory in incomplete form, with no clear conclusion. (For Lenin, if I
remember
It is not surprising that Lenin adopted an underconsumptionist approach, since
he took so much of his economic theory from Hobson, who was an
underconsumptionist.
Jim Devine wrote:
I don't think quoting Marx Lenin really settles the debate here, since
one can easily find quotes from both
Shilei, a young associate professor from Beijing, just signed on to our
list. He is not doctrinaire. I think that we might learn from each
other.
Here is what he wrote to me:
I am not a professor yet, but an associate professor.
Peking University has conferred a Ph.D degree on me that
At 08:37 15/02/00 -0800, Jim Devine wrote:
thanks for giving me a chance to blow my own horn, Chris. (Of course, you
know me: I'd blow it anyway.)
Quite unintentional! I just thought it was an interesting point!
Though many "orthodox" Marxists simply dismiss underconsumptionism as
somehow
Marxist Harry Bravermans disparagement of the bourgeois Keynes in his
review of Marxist economist Paul M. Sweezys Present As History can be
appreciated if one recalls this passage from The Communist Manifesto:
In these crises there breaks out an epidemic that, in all earlier
epochs would have
Phoebe Hoban, "Basquiat":
A number of factors converged to create the extraordinary, decade-long art
bonanza that ultimately self-destructed, like an elaborate pyramid scheme,
in late 1989. The juggernaut started in May 1980 when the auction houses
broke all historical records with
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