Brad, are you suggesting that it is only the pull of the city, and not
push of people being dispossessed from the farms?
Brad De Long wrote:
Mine,
I do not disagree that the wages suck. But, are
they better than what those workers got on the ejidos?
The voting-with-the-feet
Around the mid 1920s, with the increasing presence of Nazi political
activism, Jews were substantially prohibited from participating
in economic, social and political activities such as investing, teaching,
working, forming associations and other citizenhip entitlements. Nazis
came to power
friends;
Jim devine quotes the LA Times , W. Greider, etc.
Greider has taken leave of his wits as he sows more
illusions that the Democrats are/were ever any kind of Party of Labor.
The fact that the AF of Hell unions support the DP religiously only helps
to show they are
as tied to the laws
michael wrote:
I have posted a copy of Nathan's Microsoft Monitor, because his was
rejected. Marx said that concentration of capital would make the
transition to socialism easier. The state would have an easier time
taking over the few supermarket chains than the motley collection of
If I remember correctly, the original request was to remove just the
message number rather than the whole header. It would seem to be
helpful if "[PEN-L]" were prefixed to the subject line without the
message number. This would provide an easy method of identifying
messages from the list while
At 08:44 25/05/00 -0700, Jim D wrote:
I don't want to get into quote-mongering (or to rehearsing old debates
from Marxism-thaxis -- BTW, what in 'ell is "thaxis"?)
Marxism-thaxis is one of the life forms in virtual marxism-space, which had
its own evolutionary history, birth, childhood,
On Thu, 25 May 2000, Louis Proyect wrote:
Jay points out that the Frankfurters reject the notion that class conflict
is the locomotive of history, a basic Marxist theory.
Nonsense. Walter Benjamin once wrote that the Revolution is really the
emergency handbrake on Progress. The greatness of
K
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on 25/5/00 10:39 pm, Nathan Newman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just don't see what is gained by the campaign. Third party folks make
so many wondrous claims for such third party efforts, yet historically
on 25/5/00 10:39 pm, Nathan Newman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Third party folks make
so many wondrous claims for such third party efforts, yet historically
Lafayette in 1924 delivered the reactionary era of Coolidge; Wallace the
Cold War and McCarthyism; and we can go on.
The Cold War
I rank this case up as one of the top cases likely to shape property
rights in the new Net economy. The judge in the case declared even
publicly available web sites to be private property from which any person
can be excluded based on "trespass" law. In this case, the goal is to
exclude
Like Michael P., I shudder at the thought of dubya.
My speculation from over here, where we too have seen our socdems do all the
things to us that a conservative government would find much harder to do, is
that the bush baby would indeed be a disaster. Like ol' Raygun, the bloke
is too dense
I know it ain't pretty reading on either side of the ledger, but is it
really conceivable Gore would be quite as horrific a prospect?
Just wondering - he'll effectively be our president, too, after all.
Cheers,
Rob.
Society is divided into classes. The state is the executive committee of
the
Reckon you're making this out to be a little simpler than it is, Lou! The
ruling class need not be particularly united on a host of particular policy
issues (China's gonna present 'em with some pretty divisive stimuli, I
reckon), there are often different ways to do someone's bidding (allocating
Dennis R Redmond wrote:
Nonsense. Walter Benjamin once wrote that the Revolution is really the
emergency handbrake on Progress. The greatness of the Frankfurt School is
that they insist that the objective tide of history is catastrophic, an
outrageous violence done to vulnerable bodies, and that
Rob wrote:
Reckon you're making this out to be a little simpler than it is, Lou! The
ruling class need not be particularly united on a host of particular policy
issues (China's gonna present 'em with some pretty divisive stimuli, I
reckon), there are often different ways to do someone's bidding
Louis Proyect wrote:
there's the little matter of the
superstructure sometimes preponderating in shaping particular events (as per
that famous Bloch letter).
Of course there are divisions in the ruling class. . . .
Also there is the matter of distinguishing the superstructure (however
"J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/23/00 06:04PM
Charles,
Thanks for the response. Clearly we disagree on
the nature of democracy. I do think it involves voting
with at least more than one candidate. I also think
that it should involve some degree of tolerance for
dissent,
Louis Proyect wrote:
Leibniz and Whitehead are
key to Harvey (while obviously having nothing to do with Marx)
It's not obvious to me. Leibniz is part of the German idealist tradition
sublated by Marx.
The dialectical relation of "sublation" is not a relation of identity. That
Whitehead's
Carrol Cox wrote:
Also there is the matter of distinguishing the superstructure (however
you define that slippery term) from bird shit on the rooftop -- which
is more or less what Gore and Bush represent. The most apparent
difference between Kennedy and Nixon was that the former preferred
haute
Whitehead:
"When we think of freedom, we are apt to confine ourselves to freedom of
thought, freedom of the press, freedom for religious opinions. Then the
limitations to freedom are conceived as wholly arising from the antagonisms
of our fellow men. This is a thorough mistake. The massive
It's scary when a columnist who practices an anti-working class form of
economics writes a column for the most prestigious capitalist newspaper in
the US (if not the world) preaching to workers that the only organizations
they have -- the trade-unions -- are working against the workers' own
Michael Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/26/00 08:32AM
As for 1948, 'first shot' of domestic Cold War was fired by Dems/FDR
dropped Wallace as VP in favor of Truman in '44. And Truman would remove
Wallace as Commerce Secretary in '46 (and initiate loyalty oaths and
Smith Act investigations in
At 08:05 AM 05/26/2000 +0100, you wrote:
At 08:44 25/05/00 -0700, Jim D wrote:
I don't want to get into quote-mongering (or to rehearsing old debates
from Marxism-thaxis -- BTW, what in 'ell is "thaxis"?)
Marxism-thaxis is one of the life forms in virtual marxism-space, which
had its own
I got it. I was not strongly aware of those divisions before. Thanks for
the clarification..
revolutionary greetings!
Mine
Dear Mine!
Actually the Amal movement was formed back during the Lebanese Civil War
and
is totally independent of Hizb Allah. In fact there are areas in South
Lebanon
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/26/00 01:46PM
At 08:05 AM 05/26/2000 +0100, you wrote:
At 08:44 25/05/00 -0700, Jim D wrote:
I don't want to get into quote-mongering (or to rehearsing old debates
from Marxism-thaxis -- BTW, what in 'ell is "thaxis"?)
Marxism-thaxis is one of the life forms
Louis writes:
This sounds like Malthus to me, not Marx.
This must be the same hearing problem that led you mistakenly to attribute
to Whitehead the Leibnizian theory of the 'best of possible worlds'.
"the Malthusian Law, with its sociological consequences, is not an iron
necessity. ...
Jim Devine wrote:
but what is "thaxis"? I know what "praxis" is.
Theory + practice = thaxis. No relation to Thurn und Thaxis, or
whatever that thing from Pynchon's Lot 49 is.
Doug
the case. Essentially, the "lesser evil" strategy which helped to
facilitate Hitler's rise to power became central to the reformist left.
Of course, all of this is immaterial to non-Marxists.
Louis Proyect
Very true. Actually, if one looks at the party politics of the pre-nazi
germany, one
Mine,
So, did these increased jobs replace lost ones
in the US? That is the issue. Are you unhappy that
this employment has increased in and of itself? These
jobs may not be great, but are they not better than the
alternatives available to these people in Mexico?
Actually the textile
JD:
. . . The health care example seems totally off the agenda
at present, while the earned income credit (unlike classic income-support
measures) make workers more dependent on their employers' good wishes,
i.e., hardly helps their bargaining power. . . .
What in the world does this mean?
Jim Devine wrote:
but what is "thaxis"? I know what "praxis" is.
Theory + practice = thaxis. No relation to Thurn und Thaxis, or
whatever that thing from Pynchon's Lot 49 is. Doug
I thought it went back to the old saying,
the only certain things are debt and thaxis.
Or something like that.
Max Sawicky wrote:
What in the world does this mean? How does the
EITC make a worker any more dependent on an employer
(who else can you work for?) than a wage increase?
You only get the EITC if you have a job, so it doesn't reduce the
cost of job loss. Wasn't the political point of the EITC
I don't disagree about the US part of your post. but my post was about
Mexico and the impacts of US-Mexico free trade liberalization on Apparel
Industry and labor composition of maquiladoras.. Regarding employment,
number seems to increase (as the increasing number of employed workers
show), but
Max Sawicky wrote:
What in the world does this mean? How does the
EITC make a worker any more dependent on an employer
(who else can you work for?) than a wage increase?
You only get the EITC if you have a job, so it doesn't reduce the
cost of job loss. Wasn't the political point of the EITC
Whitehead:
"Nature is plastic, although to every prevalent state of mind there
corresponds iron nature setting its bounds to life. Modern history begins
when Europeans passed into a new phase of understanding which enabled them
to introduce new selective agencies, unguessed by the older
SCMP
Friday, May 26, 2000
PNTR VOTE
'Short-term pain, long-term gain'
WILLIAM KAZER in Shanghai
While Beijing has applauded its likely entry into the World Trade
Organisation (WTO), joining the global body could contribute to slower
economic growth, more job losses and a weaker trade
Louis writes:
This sounds like Will and Ariel Durant.
This sounds like Louis Proyect.
Ted
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Mine,
I do not disagree that the wages suck. But, are
they better than what those workers got on the ejidos?
Your post was in response to mine noting that the
forecast of various folks that NAFTA would lead to
job losses in the US was wrong. I am not going to
defend all aspects of NAFTA
Mine: I did not doubt about it.
Adorno's _Aesthetic Theory_ offers morepossibilities to conceive art as a
"praxis making" human enterprise,whereas _Dialectic Of Enlightenment_ ,seems
to me, a more pessimistic textreflecting the circumstanes of declining
liberal democracy and rise
Too bad David is not still on pen-l
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 19:24:51 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Barkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Globalization E-Conference [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [globalization] A time for reflection.
I am a Mexican economist teaching the theories of development and
working
with
Mine: I did not doubt about it. Adorno's _Aesthetic Theory_ offers more
possibilities to conceive art as a "praxis making" human enterprise,
whereas _Dialectic Of Enlightenment_ ,seems to me, a more pessimistic
text
reflecting the circumstanes of declining liberal democracy and rise of
organized
I asked:
but what is "thaxis"? I know what "praxis" is.
CB: I've always thought it was sort of thaxis is to theory as praxis is to
practice.
but praxis is supposed to be the unity of theory and practice, no?
Doug writes: Theory + practice = thaxis.
but practice + theory = praxis. Which by
At 03:52 PM 5/26/00 -0400, you wrote:
Max Sawicky wrote: How does the EITC [earned income tax credit] make a
worker any more dependent on an employer (who else can you work for?) than
a wage increase?
Doug writes:
You only get the EITC if you have a job, so it doesn't reduce the cost of
job
mbs writes:
The problem w/direct aid for trade adjustment is the problem of narrow
entitlements -- they fail to excite mass support and without elite
backing, tend to wither on the vine.
that's right. But economists who are pushing free trade as the solution to
the world's ills should be
On Fri, 26 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"high" art and "low" art, Wagner versus "mass music". I
never see jazz in the way that Adorno sees. What about the aesthetic
beauty of Moroccon jazz? or Cuban jazz? or Jamaican jazz?
Adorno is useless vis-a-vis jazz. He didn't know the great jazz
Jim,
"Thaxis" was neologized by somebody (don't
remember who) involved with what was once called
the marxism-2 list. This was the original spinoff, although
perhaps preceded by the OPE list crowd, from the old
marxism list that had everybody and their whole families,
tribes, cliques, and
I have a question for anyone with a passing knowledge of anthropology.
The speaker on our campus made these two statements that some very
interesting. Are they true?
cuneiform was only used for business transactions 800 years before
people realized that it could be used for other purposes.
On Fri, 26 May 2000, Doug Henwood wrote:
Dennis, what do you make of the post-WW II Adorno, who took CIA money
to rebuild the Frankfurt School, and refused to republish Neumann's
Behemoth because it was too Marxist?
The Institute was originally financed by a wealthy Dutch rentier, proving
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Halls of Justice Painted Green
Money Talking
Power Wolves Beset Your Door
Hear Them Stalking
Soon You'll Please Their Appetite
They Devour
Hammer of Justice Crushes You
Overpower
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From an interview with Metallica at slashdot.org:
Question:
Louis Proyect wrote:
Whitehead:
"Nature is plastic, although to every prevalent state of mind there
corresponds iron nature setting its bounds to life. [snip]
It is a false dichotomy to think of Nature and Man. Mankind is that factor
*in* Nature which exhibits in its most intense
At 03:15 PM 5/26/00 -0700, you wrote:
The Institute was originally financed by a wealthy Dutch rentier, proving
that one should never be afraid of reappropriating The Man's capital flow
to fight oppression.
for better or for worse, almost all leftist organizations have relied on
funds from
Dennis R Redmond wrote:
On Fri, 26 May 2000, Doug Henwood wrote:
Dennis, what do you make of the post-WW II Adorno, who took CIA money
to rebuild the Frankfurt School, and refused to republish Neumann's
Behemoth because it was too Marxist?
The Institute was originally financed by a
Doug Henwood wrote:
Jim Devine wrote:
but what is "thaxis"? I know what "praxis" is.
Theory + practice = thaxis. No relation to Thurn und Thaxis, or
whatever that thing from Pynchon's Lot 49 is.
Are you sure -- it has the aroma of coming out of the same
bottle as lipoleum and
At 10:46 26/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
At 08:05 AM 05/26/2000 +0100, you wrote:
At 08:44 25/05/00 -0700, Jim D wrote:
I don't want to get into quote-mongering (or to rehearsing old debates
from Marxism-thaxis -- BTW, what in 'ell is "thaxis"?)
Marxism-thaxis is one of the life forms in virtual
Michael Perelman wrote:
I have a question for anyone with a passing knowledge of anthropology.
The speaker on our campus made these two statements that some very
interesting. Are they true?
cuneiform was only used for business transactions 800 years before
people realized that it
I'm convinced that Ted is wrong in some ways -- but he sure as hell is
not wrong in ways that can be thrown off this simply.
Carrol
The problem with Whitehead (and Leibniz) and Harvey's appropriation of both
thinkers is that there is no concept of contradiction, struggle,
Louis Proyect wrote:
For example, when Whitehead writes, "Nature is always about the
perpetual exploration of novelty," you lose the other side of the equation
which is about crisis and destruction.
Agreed -- this fits my memory of Whitehead, whom I haven't read in
almost 40 years.
CB: Yes, I often think that the Wallace would have been president without
the switch. Was Wallace for real ? A red ?
Well, he would have been prez if he'd still been vice-prez when FDR died
at beginning of fourth term in 1945...
Wallace came from Iowa Republican family, father was
Mine,
I do not disagree that the wages suck. But, are
they better than what those workers got on the ejidos?
The voting-with-the-feet pattern suggests an answer...
Not republishing Behemoth because it was too Marxist is kind of icky, no?
Doug
Well, it's also substantially wrong... especially those parts where
Neumann says that the Nazis have to keep the Jews around or else the
people will turn on the bosses and the rulers...
Brad DeLong
--
the case. Essentially, the "lesser evil" strategy which helped to
facilitate Hitler's rise to power became central to the reformist left.
Of course, all of this is immaterial to non-Marxists.
Louis Proyect
Very true. Actually, if one looks at the party politics of the pre-nazi
germany, one
sure, with $1.80 hourly wage, *and* mostly non-unionized, as of 1996
figures!
Mine
Barkley asked: Mine, I do not disagree that the wages suck. But, are
they better than what those workers got on the ejidos?
Brad replied:
The voting-with-the-feet pattern suggests an answer...
Noam Chomsky has recently written:
There was an article in the Wall Street Journal last summer, you may
have seen, about MIT, my place. What had happened was that a student in
a computer science class had refused to answer a question on an exam.
When he was asked why by the professor, he said
"J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." wrote:
MIne,
That old reactionary Churchill once remarked
that "democracy is the worst of all political systems
except for all the rest," or words to that effect.
It seems that my original point got lost in a hassle over the
use/legitimacy/etc of elections as
I think it was Barkley who wrote:
Mine,
I do not disagree that the wages suck. But, are
they better than what those workers got on the ejidos?
now Brad writes:
The voting-with-the-feet pattern suggests an answer...
As Michael suggests, we should look for push factors rather than blithely
I think it was Barkley who wrote:
Mine,
I do not disagree that the wages suck. But, are
they better than what those workers got on the ejidos?
now Brad writes:
The voting-with-the-feet pattern suggests an answer...
As Michael suggests, we should look for push factors rather than
blithely
My reading of Neumann is that both Thaelmann and Hilferding refused to go
to a coalition. It was a strategic mistake on both parts, especially when
Hitler lost some seats in *second* Reichtag elections, and was in a
relatively weaker position to be ousted by a united majority. it did not
happen
all of this is getting nowhere. Did someone simply make the word up?
Yep. I think it was Lisa Rogers, a shining character who found absolutely
everything interesting and was instrumental back in '94 and '95 in trying to
restructure Marxism space (back at Virginia U's Spoons list server) to
Michael,
There was an article in the July 20, 1999 WSJ about Vanu Bose [the
loudspeaker designer]and a patent dispute that involved him and his son.
The article does not mention the test, but there were several articles over
the summer investigating the Technology Licensing Office at MIT by the
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