Re: Bush vs. Smith

2001-01-27 Thread Margaret Coleman
Aside from Dubya's and Smith's divergent views on taxes, Smith also saw unions as necessary and legitimate to balancing the imbalance of power in the market place between wage workers and business owners. Smith goes on for many passages about how business owners are able to unfairly pursue wage

Re: Bush vs. Smith

2001-01-27 Thread Margaret Coleman
Bush is an appointee of the Supreme Court, he wasn't elected. I mean, that is the definition of appointee, isn't it? maggie coleman Jim Devine wrote: the lead letter to the editors of the Los Angeles TIMES, today [1/25/01]: * Sam Fleischacker's excellent piece on Adam Smith's view of

Re: Cold and Energy Crisis in Sibera..

2001-01-27 Thread Margaret Coleman
The title of the article should be, "Capitalism brings shortages in basic goods." maggie coleman Ken Hanly wrote: Seems that Russia is striving now to catch up to and surpass the US in buck=passing. Everything bad is the result of previous administrations...in the Russian case, the

Re: Al Goes Wacky

2001-01-27 Thread Margaret Coleman
Max Sawicky wrote: It's like a mini-Ayn Rand burst out of his [Greenspan's] chest, a la Alien.Great image!Max Sawicky also wrote: Then there was some babbling about the prohibitive expense of liquidating Treasury debt. This was simply an expression of willful ignorance.I think there is another

Re: To pee or not to pee, safer not to pee...

2001-01-27 Thread Margaret Coleman
(This example is taken from the phone company building on east 38 street in manhattan, but the set up is roughly the same everywhere in the usa) In the operator's work place, there are tall poles every so many feet with lights at the top of the pole. If the operator has to go to the bathroom she

Re: holy trinity/Yugoslavia in transition

2001-01-27 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
To sum up, yes I think Serbia could privatize (gradually and through worker buyouts), maintain much of its social security (scandanavian welfare state apparatus) but not by adopting shock therapy. Rather, it needs an orderly process of deregulating prices and liberalizing trade and capital

Re: Re: Union Trends and Data

2001-01-27 Thread Margaret Coleman
Ben Day wrote: This is bullshit. The reason that national union membership is shrinking is because the labor force is being recomposed with contingent work - temp jobs, part-time jobs, adjunct workers - and the AFL-CIO refuses to fight for contingent workers or to challenge the legislation

Sacher-Masoch in the Age of Shock Therapy

2001-01-27 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
* New York Times 27 January 2001 Masochism Finally Gets Even By SARAH BOXER Masochism means never having to say "Stop! Stop! Enough!" At the Modern Language Association's annual meeting last month, three hours were devoted to masochism. And that isn't counting the lectures and

Re: Buck Fush

2001-01-27 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
As MAx points out, consciousness has a long way to go And, it looks like Bush will do his best to speed up the process. He already started with cutting funding to international groups which have pro-abortion policies. maggie * Goodbye civility: Bush's attack on the poorest women

Re: Re: To pee or not to pee, safer not to pee...

2001-01-27 Thread Ken Hanly
Doesn't this encourage operators with diarrhea to phone in sick :) Is this what economists call a moral hazard? Cheers, Ken Hanly - Original Message - From: Margaret Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 8:14 AM Subject: [PEN-L:7350] Re: To pee

Vandana Shiva Beaten By Police in Davos

2001-01-27 Thread Seth Sandronsky
FYI Seth webcast news Vandana Shiva Beaten By Police in Davos by Bill Vaughan 2:54pm Sat Jan 27 '01 Vandana Shiva came out of the Public Eye on Davos Conference (the anti-WEF conference) to join the street protest. As she tried to climb over a police barricade, a policeman grabbed her and

Re: Sacher-Masoch in the Age of Shock Therapy

2001-01-27 Thread Ken Hanly
Masochism seems like an appropriate psychological accompaniment for the transition from communism to capitalism in Russia and the Ukraine. The citizens are being screwed so best that they like it and continue under the whip of the oligarchs, and receive shock-treatment by following the policies

Re: Re: Bush vs. Smith

2001-01-27 Thread Jim Devine
At 07:48 AM 01/27/2001 -0600, you wrote: Bush is an appointee of the Supreme Court, he wasn't elected. I mean, that is the definition of appointee, isn't it? maggie coleman what does one call someone who got in office via a _coup_? Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: Bush vs. Smith

2001-01-27 Thread Jim Devine
right. Also, I should note that in my efforts to engineer the letter to make sure that it got published, I forgot the sentence at the end. "Therefore, workers shouldn't have to pay taxes." At 07:47 AM 01/27/2001 -0600, you wrote: Aside from Dubya's and Smith's divergent views on taxes, Smith

Re: Sacher-Masoch in the Age of Shock Therapy

2001-01-27 Thread Jim Devine
At 09:56 AM 01/27/2001 -0500, you wrote: While Russia and Ukraine are fighting over masochism's provenance, American scholars are arguing over Sacher-Masoch's message. "Venus in Furs" begins with the narrator (not Severin) dreaming of a statue of Venus. As he dreams, the hand of Venus is

Re: Re: Stewart on Milken

2001-01-27 Thread Jim Devine
At 08:10 PM 01/26/2001 -0500, you wrote: the highlight: Milken "'became the leading disciple of the theory that sheer greed is what drives our national securities markets. . . .'" but isn't that theory true? and why are they "our" national securities markets, since they belong to the rich? Jim

Solzhenitsyn criticises Putin's Environmental Record.

2001-01-27 Thread Ken Hanly
During the communist era, criticism by Solzhenitsyn would be front page news and on TV in all the western media outlets. There seems to be not that much coverage either of Putin's abolishing environmental and forestry committees nor even all that much about the draconian new labor laws

Re: Sacher-Masoch in the Age of Shock Therapy

2001-01-27 Thread Chris Burford
At 09:56 27/01/01 -0500, you wrote: * New York Times 27 January 2001 Masochism Finally Gets Even By SARAH BOXER Marx's last known letter, to his doctor is said to contain a jaundiced aphorism that physical pain is the only antidote to mental pain. But the letter is not part of the

Re: Re: holy trinity/Yugoslavia in transition

2001-01-27 Thread phillp2
Yoshie wrote: I don't know why Paul Barkley Rosser seem to say there is a possibility of gradual orderly privatization, when Mladjan Dinkic (the economic advisor to Kostunica now central bank governor) is calling for _swift_ privatization. Yoshie, if you read what I wrote, it was

Re: Re: Re: Bush vs. Smith

2001-01-27 Thread Michael Pugliese
Some letter writer in The Nation came up with "Scaliawag." Michael Pugliese -Original Message- From: Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, January 27, 2001 8:18 AM Subject: [PEN-L:7359] Re: Re: Bush vs. Smith At 07:48 AM 01/27/2001 -0600,

Re: Re: Re: Bush vs. Smith

2001-01-27 Thread Justin Schwartz
what does one call someone who got in office via a _coup_? Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~JDevine El Chefe? Der Fuerher? Il Duce? Vozdh? Or, if he's from Texas, Boss? The Dems have a great blackmail scheme going: next time help us win, wo we'll confirm the next

Re: Re: Re: Union Trends and Data

2001-01-27 Thread Ben Day
This was a reaction to a report posted by someone on the list, and specifically to a union official quoted therein - not addressed to any of pen-l's contributors. Ben At 08:57 PM 1/26/01 -0800, you wrote: Ben is new here, but he needs to know that we don't address each other like that

Re: Buck Fush

2001-01-27 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Yoshie wrote: We need to criticize Bush's anti-abortion policy, but we also have to point out that supporters for "international family planning organizations" include an unsavory bunch of people who are obsessed with "overpopulation." When we compare Kerala the rest of India, it's clear that

Re: Re: Buck Fush

2001-01-27 Thread Carrol Cox
Lisa Ian Murray wrote: It's precisely those groups who take their cue from T. Homer-Dixon's paradigm. No Lakshman Yapa on their reading lists! Ian, this is a bit terse.Which groups? And is T. Homer-Dixon, whoever he is, a good guy or a bad guy? Not very clear. Carrol

Re: To pee or not to pee, safer not to pee...

2001-01-27 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
(This example is taken from the phone company building on east 38 street in manhattan, but the set up is roughly the same everywhere in the usa) In the operator's work place, there are tall poles every so many feet with lights at the top of the pole. If the operator has to go to the bathroom she

Re: RE: Re: Al Goes Wacky

2001-01-27 Thread Jeffrey L. Beatty
At 03:57 PM 1/26/01 -0500, Charles Brown wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/26/01 12:40PM He's a Randite. He's always been a Randite. Conditional on the government's size being fixed, he's in favor of budget surpluses. But give him an opening where he thinks there's an opportunity to shrink

Re: Massive jump in US population

2001-01-27 Thread Andrew Hagen
f a recent Reuters story. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010127/ts/forum_economy_dc_1.html. Commentators generally believe that the US is going to come out of recession within 6 months. While that would be nice, it appears to be highly unlikely. Any stimulating effect of Bush's tax cuts would

Re: Clinton's Pardons...

2001-01-27 Thread Andrew Hagen
this is an analysis of the pardons of Roger Clinton and Marc Rich On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:01:25 -0600, Forstater, Mathew wrote: what could the justification possibly have been for pardoning his own brother, who was arrested for trying to sell coke to a cop?? Since ancient times, the sovereign

Re: Sacher-Masoch in the Age of Shock Therapy

2001-01-27 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Masochism seems like an appropriate psychological accompaniment for the transition from communism to capitalism in Russia and the Ukraine. The citizens are being screwed so best that they like it and continue under the whip of the oligarchs, and receive shock-treatment by following the

Re: Al Goes Wacky

2001-01-27 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Also known as lobbying. Also known as the committee system in Congress through which lobbying frequently takes place. Also known as supposedly independent regulatory commissions staffed by people recruited from the industries allegedly being regulated. No, we liberalish types aren't bitter at

Re: Re: Re: Stewart on Milken

2001-01-27 Thread Shane Mage
Jim Devine wrote: At 08:10 PM 01/26/2001 -0500, you wrote: the highlight: Milken "'became the leading disciple of the theory that sheer greed is what drives our national securities markets. . . .'" but isn't that theory true?... A little more than half true. Fear is almost as strong (and

Re: Re: Re: Bush vs. Smith

2001-01-27 Thread Margaret Coleman
I believe getting into office via a coup implies a military take over, and Dubya and Gore and whoever emphasized the fact that this was a peaceful exchange of power.. Besides, do we really see him as a military leader? H, maybe. But I have a hard time seeing Dubya as someone who would

Re: Re: Buck Fush

2001-01-27 Thread Margaret Coleman
I think what we need to do is support pro-CHOICE, which is not the same as pro-abortion, though abortion is a very important part of choice. The main point being that it is up to the individual woman to choose whether or not to have children -- and make that a real choice which includes ALL the

Re: Re: To pee or not to pee, safer not to pee...

2001-01-27 Thread Margaret Coleman
In about 1979 there was a wild cat strike of ATT operators in NYC. So they sent a group of technicians from the office where I was working over to the operator center to fill in (the techs sent were all male). This group of 5 guys set out at 8:15 a.m. and were back by 9:00. The foreman asked

Re: Re: Al Goes Wacky

2001-01-27 Thread Brad DeLong
Max Sawicky wrote: It's like a mini-Ayn Rand burst out of his [Greenspan's] chest, a la Alien. Great image! Great, great image!

Re: Re: Stewart on Milken

2001-01-27 Thread Andrew Hagen
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Andrew Hagen wrote: the highlight: Milken "'became the leading disciple of the theory that sheer greed is what drives our national securities markets. . . .'" On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Jim Devine wrote: but isn't that theory true? and why are they "our" national securities

Re: Re: Sacher-Masoch in the Age of Shock Therapy

2001-01-27 Thread Michael Pugliese
Yoshie, when I go to that URL, [Endnotes omitted; the full article is available at http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/world_politics/v051/51.3kullberg.html.] I get this. Project Muse Login Your IP Number does not appear to be subscribed to wp. Please login with your username and password or

Re: Re: Re: Sacher-Masoch in the Age of Shock Therapy

2001-01-27 Thread Michael Perelman
I think that the masochism might be a bit far afield for us. In contrast, I thought that the energy thread and the Milken thread were useful, although the latter may have outlived its usefulness. On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 07:16:12PM -0800, Michael Pugliese wrote: Yoshie, when I go to that

water and energy

2001-01-27 Thread Michael Perelman
David Gallo of our department gave a very convincing talk on the energy crisis in California. His analysis that the supply problem will be fixed fairly easily into three years. One basic assumption of this that I had a little trouble with suggested that natural gas prices would not go up too

Re: Re: Re: Sacher-Masoch in the Age of Shock Therapy

2001-01-27 Thread Jeffrey L. Beatty
At 07:16 PM 1/27/01 -0800, you wrote: Yoshie, when I go to that URL, [Endnotes omitted; the full article is available at http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/world_politics/v051/51.3kullberg.html.] I get this. Project Muse Login Your IP Number does not appear to be subscribed to wp. Please login

Re: water and energy

2001-01-27 Thread Jeffrey L. Beatty
At 07:42 PM 1/27/01 -0800, you wrote: I wish we knew how to translate the anticorporate sentiments that are bubbling up in California into an understandable political analysis. What I sense now is an emotional response to some "bad" corporations. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department

Re: Re: To pee or not to pee, safer not to pee...

2001-01-27 Thread Michael Pugliese
Inside the New York Telephone Company by Elinor Langer. Chicago, Quadrangle Books, Langer's account of the lives of her female co-workers at the phone company in the 1960s. http://www.nyu.edu/library/bobst/research/tam/women/litworks.html -Original Message- From: Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL

Re: Re: water and energy

2001-01-27 Thread Michael Perelman
Shrag is a reporter for the Sacramento Bee. He is a liberal that writes about education for the most part. The referenda are an abomonation since advertising is usually able to sway the electorate -- except for a couple of tobacco measures. The vote to deny the utilities the bailout of their

Bankers squabble at Davos

2001-01-27 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,3604,429512,00.html Bankers slam UK euro policy Special report: economic and monetary union Larry Elliott in Davos Saturday January 27, 2001 The president of the Bundesbank, Ernst Welteke, raised the temperature yesterday in the debate over

Oops, there went 3 trillion $$

2001-01-27 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
So, "they" can gamble away 3 trillion, but by golly, the South has got to pay those debts!!! full article at: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/28/business/28WATC.html January 28, 2001 Market Watch: Eroding Paper Gains May Undo a Remarkable Resiliency By GRETCHEN MORGENSON Stock market investors