Nice headline, even if not entirely accurate... but interesting story.
Bill
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Subject: Indian communists plot IT revolution
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 16:47:07 +0500
From: Irfan Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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April 25, 2001
Indian communists plot IT
Thanks for posting this review. It will make it easier for those
unfamiliar with Pomeranz's book to follow some of what am saying.
Review offers a very accurate rendition of the structure of P's
argument, though I think Perdue is far too optimistic about the
ultimate contribution of this
I think pre-industrial may be a bit of a misnomer here if it implies
primarily endogenous economic developments. Italy's economic
situation dropped off drastically in the early 1500s because it was
completely colonized by France, Spain and Austria, and it stayed so
for the next three
Brad Delong wrote:
Good God! Do you think that the *entire* World Bank _Human
Development Report_ is a lie?
No, it is not a lie. But it is far too narrow a perspective. This is like
examining the development statistics of Chile after 5 years or so of
Pinochet and crowing about how rapid the
BLS DAILY REPORT, FRIDAY, APRIL 27, 2001:
The Employment Cost Index rose a strong 4.1 percent for the 12 months
ended in March 2001, but remained below the March 2000 growth rate of 4.3
percent, the Labor Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics reported.
Private industry benefits costs
It is times like this that I really miss Jim Blaut. I tried to find
some references by him to Pomeranz's book on the world history list,
but there seemed to be nothing substantial. I have not read the entire
book, but it strikes me as a variation on the kinds of arguments found
in 8
Russell's Logical Atonomism also has affinities to LP, but
is a quite distinct view. Though no Bolshevik, indeed a critic of
Bolshevism, Russell was a radical socialist, and a militant,
put-your-money-where-your-mouth-is actvist his whole long life.
Two winters ago, during one of the now
Michael Perelman wrote:
Brad, there was a long debate about the standard of living during the
Industrial Revolution. You probably know the literature as well as
anyone. The issue is complex, but Lou's monetization point cannot be
dismissed.
No it can't, but 1) we're a long way past the
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No it can't, but 1) we're a long way past the Industrial Revolution,
and 2) does anyone know how many people it applies to today? We seem
to have two extremes here, with LNP saying it applies broadly, and
BDL saying it hardly applies at all. Does anyone really know?
Doug
It is useful to hone
NY Times, April 30, 2001
Smithsonian Chief Draws Ire in Making Relics of Old Ways
By ELAINE SCIOLINO
WASHINGTON, April 29 - The scientists at the Smithsonian Institution's
National Museum of Natural History were under orders to be civil, but they
were too angry to obey.
Lawrence M. Small,
Doug wrote:we're a long way past the Industrial Revolution,
that's true for the U.S. and the rest of the rich capitalist countries, but
it's not true of most of the poor countries.
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
The debate about the standard of living him in the Industrial Revolution
involved some of the best in economic historians. It was quite similar in
some ways to the exchanges between Lou and Brad. You asked for conclusive
answers. That's easy. Just tell me the answer you want, and we can find
While coal is not the only resource, it does play a pivotal role in P's
overall explanation, the more so because P knows that, if there is
one area where England might have been ahead of China, it was
exactly in coal technology, the very technology that made the
Industrial Revolution. Just as
April 26, 2001
Dear Representative /Senator:
During the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and World Bank meetings
this week in Washington, the issue of debt cancellation will be
discussed. The AFL-CIO has urged the U.S. government to call on the IMF
and World Bank to immediately cancel 100
April 26, 2001
Dear Representative /Senator:
During the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and World Bank meetings
this week in Washington, the issue of debt cancellation will be
discussed. The AFL-CIO has urged the U.S. government to call on the IMF
and World Bank to immediately
circulating this is fine. It's public domain.
No special link, except for the AFL-CIO.
max
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energy prices is that most Americans still have jobs, even with the
economic slowdown (The Associated Press, Los Angeles Times
http://wwwlatimes.com/wires/20010430/ap_spend010430.htm).
The economy showed surprising resilience in the first 3 months of this
year, growing at a 2 percent annual
Brad, there was a long debate about the standard of living during the
Industrial Revolution. You probably know the literature as well as
anyone. The issue is complex, but Lou's monetization point cannot be
dismissed.
Yes it can be dismissed. It's not important or powerful enough to alter
Michael Perelman wrote:
Brad, there was a long debate about the standard of living during the
Industrial Revolution. You probably know the literature as well as
anyone. The issue is complex, but Lou's monetization point cannot be
dismissed.
No it can't, but 1) we're a long way past the
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Ricardo Duchesne wrote:
I don't see why it would support the colonization argument,
because the period of Italy's decline corresponds pretty exactly with the
period of its colonization by outside nations.
except in the sense that wars and invasion disrupted economic
The debate about the standard of living him in the Industrial Revolution
involved some of the best in economic historians. It was quite similar in
some ways to the exchanges between Lou and Brad. You asked for conclusive
answers. That's easy. Just tell me the answer you want, and we can find
But that would involve actually looking at the world, which is not
encouraged in this venue. A cite to Marx's belief that the urban poor
of Manchester in 1848 were poorer than their grandparents had been in
the British countryside in 1798 is preferable to observing that even
in resource-poor
Rarely do I encounter someone so self confident.
Brad DeLong wrote:
Bullshit.
Everyone agreed that improvements in working-class standards of
living after 1850 were large--on the order of 1% per year or more
average growth in real incomes.
Oh, yeah, you mean the period when the poor got
The organizers of Session 30, Modern Economic Growth and
Distribution in Asia, Latin America and the European Periphery: A
Historical National Accounts Approach, of the XIII World
Congress
of the IEHA, Buenos Aires 22-26 July 2002, are issuing a Call for
Papers.
The Central Theme:
The
Brad wrote:
in resource-poor Bangladesh today, with U.S. consumers protected
against the danger of buying Bangladeshi textiles made with child
labor, 80% of newborns are expected to survive to age 40, and that
was definitely not the case two generations ago...
Brad DeLong
The sarcastic
from SLATE:
The [Washington POST] runs this comment from the attorney representing
Scott Waddle, the skipper of the Navy sub that surfaced into a Japanese
fishing boat killing nine of its crew, about a possible book or movie
deal for Waddle: It would be an appropriate way for Scott to be
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from SLATE:
The [Washington POST] runs this comment from the attorney representing
Scott Waddle, the skipper of the Navy sub that
At 29/04/01 18:27 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
Chris:
There are a number of health measures that could be used, and are used in
developed countries. Furthermore AIDS medication can now stop the illness
killing. The point I was making was about drastically reducing the death
rate.
And I was
At 30/04/01 11:55 -0700, you wrote:
April 26, 2001
Dear Representative /Senator:
During the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and World Bank meetings
this week in Washington, the issue of debt cancellation will be
discussed. The AFL-CIO has urged the U.S. government to call on the
In a message dated 4/28/01 11:39:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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Scott was right, and I was wrong, about the date of Einstein's Brownian
motion paper (1905). Of course this pushes back the date at which it was
still reasonable to be skeptical of the atomic
From all accounts Jaggi's arrest was a type of police kidnapping! This is
incredible stuff if true. Mercier claims that Judy Rebick testified exactly
the opposite to what she said!
Cheers, Ken Hanly
FYI, here's a good article from cmaq detailing what's happening with
Jaggi Singh and the
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From: Sid Shniad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:CCPA study: The Roots of Addiction in Free Market Society
Date:
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The CCPA released
What is the CCPA?
Carrol
The study referred to can be read at this website..
The study is available free from the Centre's website at
http://www.policyalternatives.ca. Copies can be ordered from the CCPA
office for $10 each.
CHeers, Ken Hanly
Bush speech to bury arms pact
Special report: George Bush's America
Martin Kettle in Washington
Tuesday May 1, 2001
The Guardian
George Bush will launch the biggest weapons policy gamble of his presidency today
when he announces that Washington is willing to spend whatever it takes to build
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Bush should pull troops
Carrol,
The closest thing to the CCPA in the US is the EPI.
Paul Phillips
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Ricardo wrote:
Thanks for posting this review. It will make it easier for those
unfamiliar with Pomeranz's book to follow some of what am saying.
Review offers a very accurate rendition of the structure of P's
argument, though I think Perdue is far too optimistic about the
ultimate
What about the work of M. Harris and N. Cohen showing that the
living conditions of hunter-gatherers were superior to the average
peasant in the average agrarian society?
N. Cohen?
Mark N. Cohen, Health and the Rise of Civilization (1989).
Canadian Center for Policy Alternatives.
Cheers, Ken Hanly
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