The twin debacles of globalisation - Bello

2002-01-25 Thread Bill Rosenberg
Philippine Daily Inquirer, 25/1/02 this story was taken from www.inq7.net URL: http://www.inq7.net/vwp/2002/jan/23/text/vwp_1-1-p.htm The twin debacles of globalization Posted:0:24 AM (Manila Time) | January 24, 2002 By Walden Bello Inquirer News Service IT is said that in politics and

Re: Re: RE: BLS Daily Report

2002-01-25 Thread Ken Hanly
Well Manitoba and other Canadian provinces seem intent on training nurses to export to the US. Poorer provinces, such as Manitoba, also pay to train nurses who consequently migrate to richer provinces such as Alberta. We do the same thing with doctors. Our local rural hospital has 2 doctors from

Re: Afghanistan Again

2002-01-25 Thread Ken Hanly
Here is some info from the Times (UK) Cheers, Ken Hanly Taleban army rises again to face US FROM TIM REID IN KANDAHAR A RENEGADE army of 5,000 Taleban soldiers with 450 tanks, armoured carriers and pick-up trucks is locked in a tense stand-off with American special forces in Afghanistan. The

China has 145mn mobile phone users Web site

2002-01-25 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
The Times of India FRIDAY, JANUARY 18, 2002 China has 145mn mobile phone users: Web site REUTERS FRIDAY, JANUARY 18, 2002 BEIJING: China's mobile phone market, the world's largest, has reached 145 million subscribers, according to a statement on the Web site of its telecom regulator. China's

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: say it ain't so, Paul

2002-01-25 Thread Carl Remick
From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, that's OK then. I'll stop my carping and let PK continue his tireless task of speaking truth to power. Carl I know you're being ironic, but I'll reply in a non-ironic way: PK doesn't speak truth to power except within the usual political

Re: say it ain't so, Paul

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Pollak
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Carl Remick wrote: Seems to be bit of cognitive dissonance here. Reading Krugman's NY Times column today, I am given to understand that this whole flap over his Enron connections is really a right-wing attempt to defame Krugman because he is such a fire-breathing lefty

How Much Is Enough

2002-01-25 Thread Max Sawicky
Simplifying radically: If the baseline budget projections show unemployment of 6.0, and we say 4.5 is a reasonable standard, we need a stimulus sufficient to move the rate 1.5 percentage points. OMB says you need a percent of real GDP to get half a percent less unemployment. So you need three

The eyes-glazing-over-factor strikes again

2002-01-25 Thread Tom Walker
"Executives at the cable news networks acknowledged that Enron, while of enormous significance, is difficult to explain on television. "One senior network news executive said, 'It's the kind of story where you have to worry about the eyes-glazing-over factor.'" I say, "forget about Enron,

re: say it ain't so, Paul

2002-01-25 Thread Devine, James
Carl writes: Oh, that's OK then. I'll stop my carping and let PK continue his tireless task of speaking truth to power. I said: I know you're being ironic, but I'll reply in a non-ironic way: PK doesn't speak truth to power except within the usual political context of what's good for

Sociology Position - University of Wisconsin Green Bay

2002-01-25 Thread Austin, Andrew
LECTURER IN SOCIOLOGY The Department of Social Change and Development at UW-Green Bay invites applications for a one-year, academic staff Lecturer's position in Sociology with an interest in either the sociology of law and crime and/or women studies. The successful candidate will teach

Re: The eyes-glazing-over-factor strikes again

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Perelman
The Frontline show on the dot.con scam was pretty clear -- and in many ways more convoluted than Enron. On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 08:38:43AM -0800, Tom Walker wrote: Executives at the cable news networks acknowledged that Enron, while of enormous significance, is difficult to explain on

Re: re: say it ain't so, Paul

2002-01-25 Thread Carl Remick
From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carl writes: So, far from being a self-serving opportunist, Krugman is actually the left's last best hope. by the degraded standards of Washington, D.C., politics PK is a leftist or left of [a very right-wing] center. After getting rid of true left

Re: The eyes-glazing-over-factor strikes again

2002-01-25 Thread Doug Henwood
Tom Walker wrote: Executives at the cable news networks acknowledged that Enron, while of enormous significance, is difficult to explain on television. One senior network news executive said, 'It's the kind of story where you have to worry about the eyes-glazing-over factor.' I say, forget

say it ain't so, Paul

2002-01-25 Thread Devine, James
Carl writes: Thanks. Pass me the Prozac, please. with a whiskey chaser? JD

Re: Re: re: the profit rate recession

2002-01-25 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
Fred writes: 3. The current recession was caused by a sharp decline in investment spending, beginning in late 1990. The main point of disagreement seems to be - whether or not the decline of investment spending that caused the recession was itself caused by the decline in the rate of

precautionary principle

2002-01-25 Thread Devine, James
reading a manuscript, I came upon the precautionary principle, defined as saying that when an activity raises threats of harm to the enviornment or human health, precautionary measures should be taken even if some cause and effect relationships are not fully established scientifically (from the

Re: Re: The eyes-glazing-over-factor strikes again

2002-01-25 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Handled right (i.e., limiting explanations of degree-day derivatives or offshore partnership arrangements), the ENE story doesn't have to be boring at all. Doug === Ok that's twice in 10 minutes on the ENE. What's

Re: Re: The eyes-glazing-over-factor strikes again

2002-01-25 Thread William S. Lear
On Friday, January 25, 2002 at 09:43:32 (-0800) Ian Murray writes: - Original Message - From: Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Handled right (i.e., limiting explanations of degree-day derivatives or offshore partnership arrangements), the ENE story doesn't have to be boring at all.

RE: Re: Re: The eyes-glazing-over-factor strikes again

2002-01-25 Thread Devine, James
Ok that's twice in 10 minutes on the ENE. What's it stand for? ENron Energy? ENthusiastic Ego?

Re: Re: Re: re: the profit rate recession

2002-01-25 Thread Doug Henwood
Rakesh Bhandari wrote: I raise a single question (and Doug your reply would doubtless be most illuminating--am I way off here?): Why did the drop off in investment spending *lag behind* the drop in profitability? The financial mania, of course. There were plenty of outside funds to tap,

Re: Re: Re: The eyes-glazing-over-factor strikesagain

2002-01-25 Thread Doug Henwood
Ian Murray wrote: Ok that's twice in 10 minutes on the ENE. What's it stand for? Stock ticker symbol for Enron. Saves two keystrokes - which add up, when you type ENE as often as I've been typing it in the last few weeks. Doug

RE: precautionary principle

2002-01-25 Thread Forstater, Mathew
Jim, I have thought about this recently and come to the conclusion that, first, unregulated or badly regulated capitalism is both macroeconomically unsatisfactory and environmentally unsustainable. Second, traditional policy approaches to both unemployment and environmental degradation are

Re: Re: The eyes-glazing-over-factor strikes again

2002-01-25 Thread Paul Phillips
On 25 Jan 02, at 12:22, Doug Henwood wrote: MEGO is an acronym that cynical mainstream journalists and editors in the U.S. use to dismiss a story - my eyes glaze over. As is often the case, I suspect senior network news executives are projecting their own anxieties about fomenting class

Interest as form of sv

2002-01-25 Thread Karl Carlile
Hi Does anybody know the location of electronic material from a left standpoint on interest rates today. Karl

Re: Re: Re: The eyes-glazing-over-factor strikesagain

2002-01-25 Thread Doug Henwood
Paul Phillips wrote: Indeed, for those of us fortunate to be able to listen to CBC last Sunday morning, Doug was very entertaining in commenting on ENE. Nicely done. Why thanks. You listen to the show regularly? Michael Enright has interviewed me about 4-5 times, and I've been pretty

Re: How Much Is Enough

2002-01-25 Thread christian11
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simplifying radically: So if the multiplier is 1.5, must we advocate a $333 billion stimulus on an annual basis to force unemployment down to 4.5%? mbs Why would the spending multiplier be this low? If, simplifying very radically, it's 1/1-mpc+mpc(t)+mpm, and the tax

RE: re: say it ain't so, Paul

2002-01-25 Thread Davies, Daniel
by the degraded standards of Washington, D.C., politics PK is a leftist or left of [a very right-wing] center. After getting rid of true left voices in public life -- e.g., making it normal to treat Chomsky as a paraiah -- the right-wingers would want to get rid of even the ersatz left. In

BLS Daily Report

2002-01-25 Thread Richardson_D
FRIDAY, January 25 New claims for unemployment insurance for the week ended Jan. 19 dropped to their lowest level since July, falling 15,000 to 376,000 seasonally adjusted, down from the previous week's revised total of 391,000, according to figures released by the Employment and Training

RE: Re: How Much Is Enough

2002-01-25 Thread Max Sawicky
You're right. I'm using a conservative estimate of the multiplier, which ironically implies a higher required stimulus. Alternatively, I could use a more optimistic estimate that would imply less need for stimulus. --mbs So if the multiplier is 1.5, must we advocate a $333 billion stimulus

Re: RE: re: say it ain't so, Paul

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Perelman
I don't think that PK has moved to the left. He seems to have a very narrow range of acceptable politics/economics. Anyone to the left or to the right is fair game. He can write well and is clever, so when he lashes out at the right, he can be pleasant to behold, but he often relies on

rev and reform

2002-01-25 Thread Charles Brown
CB: Yes, actually, I was going to type in some of Perlo's chapter The Rate of Profit. The funny thing is Perlo uses both the famous anti-consumptionist quote from Vol. II that you stand on and the ultimate cosuming power of society quote from Vol. III that shows your view is only part of

rev and reform

2002-01-25 Thread Charles Brown
CB: So, the funny thing is your list position may end up closer to the Staliinist-Leninist economist analysis than you thought , ha ha. Rakesh:Have you read Richard Day's book on Soviet economic debates. I have. Varga prevailed, and it should be obvious to you that I reject his

Re: reform and rev

2002-01-25 Thread Charles Brown
Re: reform and rev by Rakesh Bhandari 24 January 2002 18:09 UTC CB: I am not familiar with Pashakunis' liquidation specifics, although I believe it was after the Bolsheviks were dissolved into the CPSU. How convenient that you are not familiar with the history of the Soviet Union that you

the profit rate recession

2002-01-25 Thread Charles Brown
the profit rate recession by Fred B. Moseley -clip- The main point of disagreement seems to be - whether or not the decline of investment spending that caused the recession was itself caused by the decline in the rate of profit since 1997. I argue yes and you argue no. You argue that

Re: Re: reform and rev

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Perelman
Charles and Rakesh, this dialogue is going nowhere. Can you take it offlist? On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 03:47:39PM -0500, Charles Brown wrote: Re: reform and rev by Rakesh Bhandari 24 January 2002 18:09 UTC CB: I am not familiar with Pashakunis' liquidation specifics, although I

Re: precautionary principle

2002-01-25 Thread Peter Dorman
Thanks for the plug, Jim. At another point in the manuscript, I mention in passing the role of Frank Knight in developing the distinction between risk and fundamental uncertainty. Knight's claim was that entrepreneurship is the specialty of people with an abnormal tolerance for plunging into

Re: RE: precautionary principle

2002-01-25 Thread Peter Dorman
Mat, How do you deal with the argument that the apparent tradeoff between growth (or full employment) and the environment is due to the failure of full cost internalization? The standard neoclassical position is that, for markets to function properly, they have to reflect true social costs and

RE: Re: RE: re: say it ain't so, Paul

2002-01-25 Thread Devine, James
I don't think that PK has moved to the left. He seems to have a very narrow range of acceptable politics/economics. Anyone to the left or to the right is fair game. He can write well and is clever, so when he lashes out at the right, he can be pleasant to behold, but he often relies on

RE: Re: Re: Re: re: the profit rate recession

2002-01-25 Thread Devine, James
I raise a single question (and Doug your reply would doubtless be most illuminating--am I way off here?): Why did the drop off in investment spending *lag behind* the drop in profitability? Doug writes: The financial mania, of course. There were plenty of outside funds to tap, and

Re: Re: precautionary principle

2002-01-25 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Peter Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The more that comes out, the more the whole business begins to look like a vast, interconnected Ponzi scam. Look at the story in the NYT today about the secret investment fund marketed on Wall St., which paid dividends out of

RE: Re: RE: precautionary principle

2002-01-25 Thread Forstater, Mathew
Hi Peter - I have taken a multi-pronged approach that includes arguments about valuation problems (criticisms of contingent valuation, travel cost, and other methods); an alternative view of social costs based on Kapp's work that includes cumulative causation; critique of optimality notions

Re: rev and reform

2002-01-25 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
CB: Yes, actually, I was going to type in some of Perlo's chapter The Rate of Profit. The funny thing is Perlo uses both the famous anti-consumptionist quote from Vol. II that you stand on and the ultimate cosuming power of society quote from Vol. III that shows your view is only part of

Re: rev and reform

2002-01-25 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
CB: You do accept that dictatorship of the proletariat is Marx's formulation though, right ? So, what is the Luxemburg, Mattick , Draper, Thomas formulation of the dicatatorship of the proletariat ? It's not the Bolshevik one, don't you know. CB: You can't dismiss an

Re: RE: Re: RE: precautionary principle

2002-01-25 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Forstater, Mathew [EMAIL PROTECTED] Once when I was giving a job talk for a position that was a joint appt in economics and environmental studies, after a long day of individual and group interviews with faculty and students of both programs, after going

Re: Re: reform and rev

2002-01-25 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
Put is this way, I don't think it is likely that Pashakunis was murdered because he had some good Marxist theory of jurisprudence, and Stalin wanted to cover up the good theory and put forth a bad theory of Marxist jurisprudence. Does that speak to what you are getting at ? In part. The

Re: Re: rev and reform

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Perelman
please take it off list. Thanks. On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 03:48:01PM -0800, Rakesh Bhandari wrote: CB: You do accept that dictatorship of the proletariat is Marx's formulation though, right ? So, what is the Luxemburg, Mattick , Draper, Thomas formulation of the dicatatorship

Re: the profit rate recession

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Perelman
Doesn't fraud also accompany a falling rate of profit? I have thought about this relationship quite a bit, but I have seen relatively little written about it. As profit rates fall, companies resort to more and more risky behavior to compensate for the fall into rate of profit. In the process,

the genius of capitalism.

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Perelman
I hope that people remember O'Neil's cavalier attitude toward bankruptcy the next time some industry comes along asking for a bailout. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chico, CA 95929 530-898-5321 fax 530-898-5901

Re: Re: the profit rate recession

2002-01-25 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: Doesn't fraud also accompany a falling rate of profit? I have thought about this relationship quite a bit, but I have seen relatively little written about it. As profit rates fall, companies resort to more and more risky behavior to compensate for the fall into rate of

Re: Re: Re: the profit rate recession

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Perelman
I don't disagree with you, except to the extent that I think that the real rate of profits has been declining since the late 1960s. It got a boost from the decline in regulation and in the power of labor, as well as from the opening up of new markets. None of these could be expected to continue

Re: RE: Re: RE: precautionary principle

2002-01-25 Thread Peter Dorman
Thanks! Could you post some specific references for Ravetz and Funtowicz? I agree with a lot (I think most) of the specifics you raise, but such a diffuse critique runs the risk of not communicating itself beyond the small circle of people who go through the whole thing systematically. Is there

Nurse-to-patient staffing minimums are a reform victory

2002-01-25 Thread charlie
Concerning the California governor's announcement discussed here recently: The nurse-to-patient staffing minimums won by the California Nurses Association constitute a reform victory for patients and nurses. They give bedside nurses a tool to fight terrible situations of overwork and

Re: RE: precautionary principle

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Perelman
Mat, I see another dimension to your statement about the lack of regulation and the lack of sustainability. In my Natural Instability book I made the case that increasing pressure on the input side -- such as through higher wages or greater environmental restrictions -- can create a simulated

BECAUSE WE ARE ALL ARGENTINES

2002-01-25 Thread Sabri Oncu
Friends, This is a call some anarchist comrades sent to the Mayday2k list. Being the only anarcho-leninist (whatever this means) I know of, I thought this would be of interest to you. Best, Sabri + Call to action: CACEROLAZO GLOBAL INTERNATIONAL CALL TO ACTION C A C E R O L

Re: BECAUSE WE ARE ALL ARGENTINES

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Perelman
what is an anarcho-leninist? On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 06:53:30PM -0800, Sabri Oncu wrote: Friends, This is a call some anarchist comrades sent to the Mayday2k list. Being the only anarcho-leninist (whatever this means) I know of, I thought this would be of interest to you. Best, Sabri

ghosts of Enron Past

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Perelman
Keats, Charles. 1982. Magnificent Masquerade: The Strange Case of Dr. Coster and Mr. Musica (NY and London: Garland). Philip Musica, a NY swindler, who created the false identity of Dr. Coster, took over McKesson Robbins. He weathered the Depression by creating fictitious profits

Re: Re: BECAUSE WE ARE ALL ARGENTINES

2002-01-25 Thread Ian Murray
Whoever you want them to be :-) Ian - Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 7:41 PM Subject: [PEN-L:21926] Re: BECAUSE WE ARE ALL ARGENTINES what is an anarcho-leninist? On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 06:53:30PM

oh, them bankers

2002-01-25 Thread Ian Murray
UBS Warburg fires four bankers Jill Treanor Saturday January 26, 2002 The Guardian Four investment bankers at UBS Warburg have been sacked for accessing a competitor's website and copying its research. The bankers used the website set up by Morgan Stanley to give its customers access to its

Re: Re: BECAUSE WE ARE ALL ARGENTINES

2002-01-25 Thread Sabri Oncu
That is not true Ian, I am still working on the definition. I will let both of you know when I am done! Best Sabri Whoever you want them to be :-) Ian - Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 7:41 PM

Re: Re: Re: BECAUSE WE ARE ALL ARGENTINES

2002-01-25 Thread Ian Murray
that's why I had the :-) at the end...Sorry if it's misunderstood Ian - Original Message - From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PEN-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:15 PM Subject: [PEN-L:21930] Re: Re: BECAUSE WE ARE ALL ARGENTINES That is not true Ian, I am

man bites dog in the ME

2002-01-25 Thread Ian Murray
Unrest a Chief Product of Arab Economies By Paul Blustein Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, January 26, 2002; Page A01 CAIRO -- The economic misfortunes that fuel resentment among young Arab men emerge through the cigarette smoke at a street-side cafe, where a table full of Egyptians in