Turkish/French tensions: Turkey's honor disgraced

2002-05-10 Thread Sabri Oncu
By the way, as a citizen of Turkey, I don't see any reason for feeling so bad about this. A loose translation of a Turkish saying goes like this: What can you argue against the truth? Best, Sabri +++ Turkey considers embargo on France Ankara - Turkish Daily News May 9, 2002

Re: Problems of the Left in North America

2002-05-10 Thread Michael Pugliese
Lou called me a Tawat on pen-l, yesterday. Whatta loon. Michael Pugliese, Twatskyist 5/10/02 7:03:00 AM, Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:37 AM 5/10/2002 -0500, Dr. Paul Stevenson wrote: Louis Proyect has taken a potshot at Ellen Meiksins Wood, Leo Panitch and Cloin Leys and has

Barbara Epstein

2002-05-10 Thread Michael Pugliese
Lou, you are such a **!!! Barbara Epstein at UCSC, if you'd read her book from U.C. Press on cultural and political radicalism or her pieces in Socialist Review started her activist carrer in the du Bois Clubs, if my memory serves, in the

Re: Re: Problems of the Left in North America

2002-05-10 Thread Louis Proyect
At 07:51 AM 5/10/2002 -0700, Michael Pugliese wrote: Lou called me a Tawat on pen-l, yesterday. Whatta loon. Michael Pugliese, Twatskyist I don't understand how Michael Pugliese has become so confused. He is responding to an exchange I had on PSN, not PEN-L, number one. Number two, if you

Question about the profit rate

2002-05-10 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Michael, I still could not attempt to answer your question, because (1) it depends on how you define the general rate of profit. For example, do you include taxes in the mass of surplus-value, if so, which taxes. (2) It is not clear what exactly you mean by endogenous/exogenous. Very few

removal from list

2002-05-10 Thread Robert Scott Gassler
Please remove me from the PEN-L list. Thank you.

Re: Barbara Epstein

2002-05-10 Thread Louis Proyect
Dear Michael Pugliese, My criticisms of Barbara Epstein were made on PSN, which stands for Progressive Sociologists Network. This is PEN-L, which stands for Progressive Economists Network. They are two different listservs. One concentrates on sociology, the other on economics. In order to post

Colin Leys

2002-05-10 Thread Michael Pugliese
http://www.versobooks.com/ http://www.versobooks.com/books/klm/leys_c_market_politics.shtml With the globalisation of the capitalist economy the economic role of national governments is now largely confined to controlling inflation and facilitating home-grown market performance.

Growing exports and falling incomes

2002-05-10 Thread Ian Murray
http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1910/19101210.htm Growing exports, falling incomes Jayati Ghosh The latest Trade and Development Report from UNCTAD discusses why increasing manufacturing exports may not be good enough for developing countries' income growth. DIVERSIFICATION of production

Re: Re: Re: Problems of the Left in North America

2002-05-10 Thread Michael Pugliese
You called me a Twat. I mistyped, you !@#$%^*()_+ Michael Pugliese see the final part of the below. You are a twat. Louis Proyect Marxism mailing list: http:/ / www.marxmail.org 5/10/02 8:03:25 AM, Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Display all headers From: Michael Pugliese [EMAIL

Growing exports and falling incomes

2002-05-10 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Thanks, Ian. That is the kind of economic information that is pertinent to read.

Rebel without a clue

2002-05-10 Thread Tom Walker
RENO, Nev. - The 21-year-old college art student accused of putting pipe bombs in mailboxes in five states told authorities he was trying to make a smiley face pattern on the map, a sheriff said Thursday. The first 16 bombs were arranged in two circles, one in Illinois and Iowa and the other in

RE: Rebel without a clue

2002-05-10 Thread Devine, James
is anyone able to summarize this character's alleged motive for his alleged bombings? (BTW, his roommate in college is named Jim Devine -- just like the bent dermatologist here in L.A.) Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine -Original Message- From: Tom

ECONOMIST on U.S. GDP growth

2002-05-10 Thread Devine, James
Economist.com/America's economy May 4, 2002 FINANCE ECONOMICS A hard act to follow ON THE face of it, America's economy is roaring back. In real terms, its GDP grew at an annual rate of 5.8% in the first quarter. It leaves the rest of the world far behind: Britain's economy grew by just 0.3% in

The ECONOMIST on U.S. productivity growth.

2002-05-10 Thread Devine, James
[Interestingly, the ECONOMIST doesn't mention the role of the over 4% average annual increase in the nominal major-currencies trade-weighted value of the dollar -- or over 5% in real terms -- during the period 1996 to 2001. This is a key factor that would hurt profits despite rising

Conflict in Nepal

2002-05-10 Thread Devine, James
[comments?] Nepal needs reform, not more guns The Maoist rebellion is a product of gross inequality and misrule Isabel Hilton Friday May 10, 2002 The Guardian [U.K.] When President George Bush promised more military aid to Nepal's visiting prime minister this week, a White House spokesman

Important Public Health Issue

2002-05-10 Thread Devine, James
The Onion | 4/17/2002 U.S. Children Getting Majority Of Antibiotics From McDonald's Meat WASHINGTON, DC-According to a Department of Health and Human Services report released Monday, McDonald's meat from antibiotics-injected livestock is now the primary source of antibiotics for U.S. children,

Re: Growing exports and falling incomes

2002-05-10 Thread Ian Murray
Jurriaan, Happy to help out; it's part of what the list should be for Ian - Original Message - From: Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 9:20 AM Subject: [PEN-L:25848] Growing exports and falling incomes Thanks, Ian. That is the

Re: Re: Re: on the , axisofEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeevil.... (Richard Burton in Exorcist II)

2002-05-10 Thread Michael Hoover
Michael Pugliese wrote: methinks you meant El Jefe Maximo Caudillo Fidel's instead of just listing a bunch of books that you swear by, Louis Proyect lists are near-perfect e-list semaphore speak... all lists are necessarily incomplete, however, those critical of fidel are woefully so if they

RE: Re: Re: Re: on the , axis ofEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeevil.... (Richard Burton in Exorcist II)

2002-05-10 Thread Devine, James
in sum, blame ny yankees for u.s. cuba 'problem'...michael hoover who do we blame the Yankees on? go Cubs! Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine

RE: Rebel without a clue

2002-05-10 Thread Tom Walker
Jim Devine asked: is anyone able to summarize this character's alleged motive for his alleged bombings? Drive ya nuts trying to make sense of it. It did the kid. It would seem to be a given that the fellow is unbalanced. The question is _how_ unbalanced compared to the norm. I read his

hanging curve ball

2002-05-10 Thread Tom Walker
in sum, blame ny yankees for u.s. cuba 'problem'...michael hoover That should be ny yanquis, no? Tom Walker 604 255 4812

Re: RE: Rebel without a clue

2002-05-10 Thread Louis Proyect
Jim Devine asked: is anyone able to summarize this character's alleged motive for his alleged bombings? Drive ya nuts trying to make sense of it. It did the kid. Tom Walker 604 255 4812 I have tried to stick to the agenda of political economy, broadly speaking, since my return to PEN-L. This

Re: Re: Re: Re: on the , axis ofEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeevil.... (Richard Burton in Exorcist II)

2002-05-10 Thread Michael Perelman
The Yankees were always the team of big money, big capital. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

on the , axis ofEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeevil.... (

2002-05-10 Thread Justin Schwartz
This just in: Whire House Spokeperson Ari Fleischer has announced that the Bush administration has issued an amended version of its Axis of Evil, which now includes not only the original list (Iraq, North Korea, Iran), and the more recent additions of Cuba and Libya, but also Berkeley,

pop quiz time

2002-05-10 Thread Ian Murray
[who said it?] ...confusion forces practical economists to explain the determination of interest by opportunity cost reasoning - a particular rate of interest being set by the 'pure' rate yielded by the riskless government bonds, with inflation, risk, and administrative cost premia added. But

Re: pop quiz time

2002-05-10 Thread Gil Skillman
It sounds like Keynes, except he would have criticized (neo)classical economics rather than mainstream economists; the latter phrasing sounds more recent. For what it's worth, mainstream theory suggests another possible explanation for positive interest rates besides time (and possibly risk)

Re: pop quiz time

2002-05-10 Thread Eugene Coyle
I think I said that one day after drinking eight cups of tea. Gene Ian Murray wrote: [who said it?] ...confusion forces practical economists to explain the determination of interest by opportunity cost reasoning - a particular rate of interest being set by the 'pure' rate yielded by the

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: on the , axis ofEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeevil.... (Richard Burton in Exorcist II)

2002-05-10 Thread Eugene Coyle
When Joe Dimaggio died a couple of years ago I wrote down an appreciation of him which talked of the Yankees the way Michael sees it. I was a Brooklyn Dodger fan. Here are a few sentences: there was an element of class in the choice of the Dodgers vs. the Yankees. The Bums were working class,

MaxSpeak, You Listen

2002-05-10 Thread Max Sawicky
Open for business. * Max B. Sawicky http://www.MaxSpeak.Org BLOG: http://www.MaxSpeak.Org/gm/index.htm

RE: pop quiz time

2002-05-10 Thread Max Sawicky
sounds like Joan Robinson. [who said it?] ...confusion forces practical economists to explain the determination of interest by opportunity cost reasoning - a particular rate of interest being set by the 'pure' rate yielded by the riskless government bonds, with inflation, risk, and

P.S.

2002-05-10 Thread Gil Skillman
Sorry, that previous answer to Ian's pop quiz was too truncated. I should have said that mainstream theory suggests another possible explanation for positive interest rates that, like explanations based on time or risk preferences, is consistent with the operation of competitive and complete

Re: MaxSpeak, You Listen

2002-05-10 Thread Sabri Oncu
Looks good Max. Congratulations. Best, Sabri

RE: pop quiz time

2002-05-10 Thread Forstater, Mathew
Hicks? -Original Message- From: Ian Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:25863] pop quiz time [who said it?] ...confusion forces practical economists to explain the determination of interest by opportunity cost

Re: RE: pop quiz time

2002-05-10 Thread Ian Murray
Envelope says it's Paul Mills and John R Presley from Islamic Finance: Theory and Practice; St Martins Press, 1999, p. 14. Mills is/was at HM Treasury UK Presley is/was Econ. Prof. Univ. of Loughborough and Chief Economic Adviser The Saudi British Bank. As I noted after 9-11 the issue of usury

Re: The ECONOMIST on U.S. productivity growth.

2002-05-10 Thread miychi
On 2002.05.11 02:08 AM, "Devine, James" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Interestingly, the ECONOMIST doesn't mention the role of the over 4% average annual increase in the nominal major-currencies trade-weighted value of the dollar -- or over 5% in real terms -- during the period 1996 to 2001. This

Re: RE: pop quiz time

2002-05-10 Thread Sabri Oncu
Ian writes: Envelope says it's Paul Mills and John R Presley from Islamic Finance:Theory and Practice; St Martins Press, 1999, p. 14. Damn. I am wrong again. I thought it was Gene who said that and was planning to ask him whether that tea he drank was Long Island Ice Tea. Best, Sabri

Re: Re: RE: pop quiz time

2002-05-10 Thread Michael Perelman
Presley is also the world's expert on the economics of Dennis Robertson. Ian Murray wrote: Envelope says it's Paul Mills and John R Presley from Islamic Finance: Theory and Practice; St Martins Press, 1999, p. 14. Mills is/was at HM Treasury UK Presley is/was Econ. Prof. Univ. of

RE: P.S.

2002-05-10 Thread Devine, James
Gil writes: For what it's worth, mainstream theory suggests another possible explanation for positive interest rates besides time (and possibly risk) preference, although it is not one that is typically emphasized: interest represents a scarcity rent for capital. This latter explanation is both

USTR Warns India On Trips Compliance Issues

2002-05-10 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
The Financial Express Wednesday, May 08, 2002 USTR Warns India On Trips Compliance Issues Sanjay Sardana New Delhi, May 7: The US Trade Representative (USTR) has flayed India for being less protective on intellectual property rights (IPR) and for having overly broad compulsory license

Re: P.S.

2002-05-10 Thread Sabri Oncu
Gill writes: I should have said that mainstream theory suggests another possible explanation for positive interest rates that, like explanations based on time or risk preferences, is consistent with the operation of competitive and complete markets. Here is a question: What is the

Re: Re: P.S.

2002-05-10 Thread Michael Perelman
it is safer holding a government bond than putting money in the bank, so people pay a premium for the bonds. I don't know why they don't keep the cash instead. On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 08:32:53PM -0700, Sabri Oncu wrote: Gill writes: I should have said that mainstream theory suggests