Unconditional Anti-Imperialism

2002-09-18 Thread Max B. Sawicky
Louis mentioned a week or two ago that Marx unconditionally supported all manner of anti-colonial revolts, no matter how primitive the nature of the resistance. If somebody could throw me a few cites where his arguments on this point are explicaated, I'd appreciate it. max

Re: Self-employed query

2002-09-18 Thread Doug Henwood
Seth Sandronsky wrote: Hello. When self-employed people go out of business in the U.S., how are they accounted for in the official job stats? It's based on self-reporting. If people describe themselves as self-employed and working, they're counted as such. If they describe themselves as not

Re: Unconditional Anti-Imperialism

2002-09-18 Thread Louis Proyect
At 08:34 AM 9/18/2002 -0400, you wrote: Louis mentioned a week or two ago that Marx unconditionally supported all manner of anti-colonial revolts, no matter how primitive the nature of the resistance. If somebody could throw me a few cites where his arguments on this point are explicaated, I'd

Economics Piece

2002-09-18 Thread Natasha Potter
Any ideas on this?? On Some Common Macroeconomic Fallacies (http://www.attac.org/fra/toil/doc/ideas01.htm) by Prabhat Patnaik Published in collaboration with IDEAS [IDEAs has been established with the purpose of building a pluralist network of heterodox economists engaged in the teaching,

[A-List] The Left Book Club by the A-List

2002-09-18 Thread Mark Jones
Pen-l'ers When Mark Jones set up the A-list a year ago it was with the intention that a forum be provided where participants could analyse developments in the global political economy from an anti-imperialist perspective in a suitably conducive environment. Mark passed the reins to me earlier

RE: the thorny matter of international law ii

2002-09-18 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30322] the thorny matter of international law ii does the U.S. government give a shit about international law? has it ever, unless it served the perceived national interest? Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine

RE: [A-List] The Left Book Club by the A-List

2002-09-18 Thread Max B. Sawicky
I'm game. Maybe somebody will start a pool on how long it takes for me to get thrown out, though that will not be my intention. mbs There are no formal membership restrictions, except that those indulging in sectarianism, flaming, baiting or apologising for imperialism will be ejected. So

Re: Re: Re: congress and the banks

2002-09-18 Thread Michael Perelman
You are correct that the consolidation has been going on for some time now, but it keeps getting worse, and at some point, quantity turns into quality. When that accumulation point occurs is difficult to see in advance. On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 07:59:49AM -0500, Bill Lear wrote: Hasn't rapid

RE: Re: Re: Re: congress and the banks

2002-09-18 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30334] Re: Re: Re: congress and the banks On the consolidation of banks: It should be mentioned that the trend does not always mean increased monopolization of banking services. One thing is that with the breaking down of barriers to interstate banking in the U.S., a lot

Re: RE: [A-List] The Left Book Club by the A-List

2002-09-18 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 9/18/02 8:14:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm game. Maybe somebody will start a pool on how long it takes for me to get thrown out, though that will not be my intention. mbs Thrown Out? This is not the era of industrial socialism organized as a

Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: congress and the banks

2002-09-18 Thread Michael Perelman
The local monopolies of banking -- especially in rural areas -- also tended to make the risks of banking failure more local. Sort of like an electricity grid. When it is more local, failures are more common, but localized. When a more national system goes down On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at

RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: congress and the banks

2002-09-18 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30338] Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: congress and the banks Michael Perelman writes: The local monopolies of banking -- especially in rural areas -- also tended to make the risks of banking failure more local. Sort of like an electricity grid. When it is more local, failures are

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: congress and the banks

2002-09-18 Thread Michael Perelman
yes, but the contagion is more likely the more integrated the system. On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 08:52:45AM -0700, Devine, James wrote: Michael Perelman writes: The local monopolies of banking -- especially in rural areas -- also tended to make the risks of banking failure more local. Sort

Re: Unconditional Anti-Imperialism

2002-09-18 Thread Joseph Green
Max Sawicky wrote: Louis mentioned a week or two ago that Marx unconditionally supported all manner of anti-colonial revolts, no matter how primitive the nature of the resistance. If somebody could throw me a few cites where his arguments on this point are explicaated, I'd appreciate it.

raising min wage

2002-09-18 Thread Forstater, Mathew
I'm trying to collect a list of arguments for raising the minimum wage, especially those that apply in 'developing' nation contexts. Fairness, equity, social justice arguments and/or efficiency/economic/macro arguments are all fine. Do people know of any good articles, books, websites that

RE: Re: Self-employed query

2002-09-18 Thread Eric Nilsson
Seth wrote, Hello. When self-employed people go out of business in the U.S., how are they accounted for in the official job stats? Doug responded, It's based on self-reporting. If people describe themselves as self-employed and working, they're counted as such. If they describe themselves

Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: congress and the banks

2002-09-18 Thread Nomiprins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Further, the banks have been suffering from competition from other sectors, such as money market mutual funds and (for corporations) the commercial paper market. There is no trend toward monopolization of financial markets, as far as I can tell, so those with sufficient

Re: raising min wage

2002-09-18 Thread Lisa Stolarski
How about this. Marx is right about many things and this is one of them: as the rich get richer and fewer in number and the poor get poorer and constitute almost everybody, what you have is a recipe for extreme social unrest. Moral and humanitarian arguments aside, this situation is

Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: congress and the banks

2002-09-18 Thread Nomiprins
In a message dated 9/18/2002 12:27:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yes, but the contagion is more likely the more integrated the system. I agree, though not just viewing contagion as a local vs. national issue, but as a single financial service provider vs. financial

Re: Re: raising min wage/Socioeconomic Democracy

2002-09-18 Thread GeorgeCSDS
In a message dated 9/18/02 11:36:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about this. Marx is right about many things and this is one of them: as the rich get richer and fewer in number and the poor get poorer and constitute almost everybody, what you have is a recipe for extreme social unrest.

Re: raising min wage

2002-09-18 Thread Gil Skillman
Mat, for some sources, check out: Zavodny, Madeline, Why Minimum Wage Hikes May Not Reduce Employment, _Economic Review_, Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, 1998, 83(2), pp. 18-28. Card and Krueger, _Myth and Measurement_ 1995 (reporting empirical studies in which they find that raising

Re: Re: Re: raising min wage/Socioeconomic Democracy

2002-09-18 Thread joanna bujes
At 01:52 PM 09/18/2002 -0400, you wrote: You may have seen this before but one needn't be a Marxist to see clearly that what you say is certainly so. Therefore I repeat my announcement about Socioeconomic Democracy and the democratic and peaceful reduction of the obscene -- and harmful --

Stiglitz on the 90's

2002-09-18 Thread Louis Proyect
The Atlantic Monthly | October 2002 The Roaring Nineties As the chairman of Bill Clinton's Council of Economic Advisers, and subsequently as the chief economist of the World Bank during the East Asian financial crisis, Joseph Sitglitz was deeply involved in many of the economic-policy

Recessionless Sri Lanka?

2002-09-18 Thread Michael Pollak
Yesterday I read for the third time a reference to the fact that Sri Lanka is supposedly going through its first recession since independence in 1948. The first two times I thought it was a misprint but now it's beginning to bug me. It's not possible for a market economy not to have a

Re: Recessionless Sri Lanka?

2002-09-18 Thread Louis Proyect
Yesterday I read for the third time a reference to the fact that Sri Lanka is supposedly going through its first recession since independence in 1948. The first two times I thought it was a misprint but now it's beginning to bug me. It's not possible for a market economy not to have a

ftaa? no thanks

2002-09-18 Thread Ian Murray
Published on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 by Inter Press Service 10 Million Brazilian Votes against Hemisphere's FTAA by Mario Osava RIO DE JANEIRO -- Nearly 10 million voters in Brazil have expressed their rejection of the Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA) in an unofficial referendum

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: congress and the banks

2002-09-18 Thread Doug Henwood
Devine, James wrote: Michael Perelman writes: The local monopolies of banking -- especially in rural areas -- also tended to make the risks of banking failure more local. Sort of like an electricity grid. When it is more local, failures are more common, but localized. When a more

Re: Re: Re: Re: raising min wage/Socioeconomic Democracy

2002-09-18 Thread GeorgeCSDS
In a message dated 9/18/02 12:11:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 01:52 PM 09/18/2002 -0400, you wrote: You may have seen this before but one needn't be a Marxist to see clearly that what you say is certainly so. Therefore I repeat my announcement about Socioeconomic Democracy and the

Re: Recessionless Sri Lanka?

2002-09-18 Thread Anthony D'Costa
I don't think the civil war was for 30 years. As for the recession most likely the FT reported it because there are talks of peace (recently brokered in Thailand I think), and the LTTE has been given greater recognition by the Sri Lankan government. In other words media coverage of SL had

Re: Recessionless Sri Lanka

2002-09-18 Thread Michael Pollak
On Tue, 18 Sep 2002, Anthony D'Costa wrote: I don't think the civil war has lasted 30 years I'm sorry, that was a typo. I meant 20, which is still rounding up a year. It started in 1983. Still unclear about the rest, though. Do developing countries commonly go decades without a recession,

Re: Re: Recessionless Sri Lanka

2002-09-18 Thread Anthony D'Costa
Recessions are observable better when the economy is at a higher growth trend. Most developing countries of Africa and South Asia have generally grown at fairly low rates, although actual data for different years might show differently. Consider India's (sic) Hindu rate of growth of 3.5% for a

Re: Re: Re: Recessionless Sri Lanka

2002-09-18 Thread Doug Henwood
Anthony D'Costa wrote: Consider India's (sic) Hindu rate of growth of 3.5% for a good three decades since 1950. Huh? Why the sic, and what's a Hindu rate of growth? Doug

RE: Re: raising min wage

2002-09-18 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30345] Re: raising min wage Social disorder may encourage the rise of a socialist movement and/or a welfare state what Lisa calls concessions), but it also may involve fascist-type movements, not just among those in corporate or state power, but among the masses. In the late

Re: Re: Re: Re: Recessionless Sri Lanka

2002-09-18 Thread Anthony D'Costa
the sic should be after Hindu, a coinage by an economist, I forget the name, suggesting pejoratively that there is something inherent in (Hindu) India that retards growth. The contemporary experience (staunchly rightist Hindu ruling regime within the constraints of parliamentary democracy)

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Recessionless Sri Lanka

2002-09-18 Thread Doug Henwood
Anthony D'Costa wrote: the sic should be after Hindu, a coinage by an economist, I forget the name, suggesting pejoratively that there is something inherent in (Hindu) India that retards growth. The contemporary experience (staunchly rightist Hindu ruling regime within the constraints of

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Recessionless Sri Lanka

2002-09-18 Thread Anthony D'Costa
If you are a long time observer of the Indian economy in an anthropological sense (which I am) the picture is rather mixed but I would say overall there are material gains (unevenly no doubt across class, caste, and region) and the poverty rate is declining, though this may not be visible to the

Re: raising min wage

2002-09-18 Thread Michael Perelman
In my Pathology book, I tried to make the case that higher wages in general encourage investment in new labor-saving technology. Forstater, Mathew wrote: I'm trying to collect a list of arguments for raising the minimum wage, especially those that apply in 'developing' nation contexts.

deflation watch

2002-09-18 Thread Michael Perelman
The Wall Street Journal today has an article describing how companies are angling to raise prices, often by surreptitious means. In demand were strong, out and out price increases would be relatively easy to engineer. I wonder if anyone has any thoughts on the immediate future of markups. --

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Recessionless Sri Lanka

2002-09-18 Thread Louis Proyect
Anthony D'Costa wrote: If you are a long time observer of the Indian economy in an anthropological sense (which I am) the picture is rather mixed but I would say overall there are material gains (unevenly no doubt across class, caste, and region) and the poverty rate is declining, though this

Re: deflation watch

2002-09-18 Thread Ken Gordon
Dial D for deflation Sep 12th 2002 From The Economist print edition Table.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document The biggest risk facing the world economy may be deflation, not a double-dip THE global economy continues to sputter. Yet most economists and policymakers do not expect a

RE: deflation watch

2002-09-18 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30366] deflation watch Michael Perelman writes: The Wall Street Journal today has an article describing how companies are angling to raise prices, often by surreptitious means. In demand were strong, out and out price increases would be relatively easy to engineer. ...

Re: India

2002-09-18 Thread Anthony D'Costa
I tried addressing Doug's question on changing material basis of the Indian society. My answer is yes, it has been changing. Statistics show the Indian poverty rate is declining, although debate persists on the extent of this decline. There is nothing in my presentation that talks about

Forwarded from Nestor (Robert Kurtz?)

2002-09-18 Thread Louis Proyect
Could cdes. give me some info on the German Marxist Robert Kurtz? Have been reading some articles by his on the current world crisis, which I found quite compelling. His basic idea is that ever since the late 60s / early 70s, what is at stake is not just realization but the money form itself,

Re: Self-employed query

2002-09-18 Thread Seth Sandronsky
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Re: Re: India

2002-09-18 Thread Anthony D'Costa
Here are some Indian corporate admissions: CII NEWS Press Releases : 2002 : September ATTACK POVERTY TO DEFEND PROSPERITY: BANGA Poverty is the biggest enemy of peace and democracy and the only way to defend prosperity is to find ways to attack it. This was stated by Mr M S Banga, Chairman,