Re: Iskenderun actions

2003-03-17 Thread Sabri Oncu
soula avramidis: > I am sure you know that they are 1938 arabs in > antioch and iskendarun. I don't know what antioch is and your spelling of Iskenderun is wrong but surely, from early 1920s until 1938, Iskenderun had been an independent state. But the participants there in Iskenderun actions a f

Re: Iskenderun actions

2003-03-17 Thread soula avramidis
I am sure you know that they are 1938 arabs in antioch and iskendarun.  Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anti-U.S. Demonstrations Continues Non-stop in Iskenderun HarbourTwo demonstrations took place today in Iskenderun Harbour that was recently rented by the U.S. for military deployment in

Re: Re: maxim rodinson on edward said

2003-03-17 Thread soula avramidis
   At least the Moufti next door thinks that said knows little about Islam, not to mention he is a christian. but just maybe a quick reading on the formation of a culture of resistance under colonialism will tell where he came from. but i think rodinson is entitled to his opinion, no harm done, mar

Mark Twain & Young Girls Re: Lewis Carroll for President

2003-03-17 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Apropos of nothing in particular: * A Presidential Candidate By Mark Twain New York Evening Post (June 9, 1879). I have pretty much made up my mind to run for President. What the country wants is a candidate who cannot be injured by investigation of his past history, so that the enemies

Re: UNSUBSCRIBE

2003-03-17 Thread Sabri Oncu
> Lisa is probably a bot...You should lovingly > program her so she can unsubscribe..:) Well! Michael told me that she is gone but what the heck does this "bot" mean? I am too tired to look it up in the dictionary. In the mean time, check what the word Pust (this "s" is with a hook under it; phone

DU

2003-03-17 Thread phillp2
From: "John Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:Du Date sent: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:38:32 -0600 DU #124aECONEWS SPECIAL ISSUE FEBRUARY 2003 DEPLETED URANIUM It's dirty, and it's deadly. When

shoppers slump

2003-03-17 Thread Ian Murray
Catalog, Eddie Bauer retailer files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy Associated Press Published March 18, 2003 RUPT18 CHICAGO -- Spiegel Inc. on Monday became the latest retailer to file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, a victim of falling sales at its catalog business and its Eddie Bauer stores.

Re: A new phrase for Orwell

2003-03-17 Thread Ian Murray
with time, all the while, playing 3rd person passive voice. - Original Message - From: "k hanly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:35 PM Subject: [PEN-L:35690] A new phrase for Orwell > >From MSNBC news.. > > Hmma peacef

A new phrase for Orwell

2003-03-17 Thread k hanly
>From MSNBC news.. Hmma peaceful entry of force... and a blissful retirement for Hussein who lives in peaceful retirement cherishing family values...etc.etc. with maybe a murder or two but all within the family... Cheers, Ken Hanly "I think that time is now over. He's had his chan

peace action

2003-03-17 Thread Dan Scanlan
UNITED EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN: This Week WEDNESDAY, MARCH 19: No Business as Usual! No War on Iraq! NATIONAL CALL TO ACTION Tuesday, March 18: Emergency Convergence in New York City in Union Square at 5 pm George W. Bush has promised to unleash an all-out war against Iraq, possibly as soon as Wedn

Rachel's parents

2003-03-17 Thread Dan Scanlan
International release, March 17, 2003 "I am allowed to go see the ocean" Rachel Corrie wrote to her family [We forward the sad but courageous statement of the parents of Rachel Corrie, followed by a moving "letter from Palestine" which she sent them on Feb. 7, 2003, two weeks after her arrival

Re: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE

2003-03-17 Thread k hanly
Lisa is probably a bot...You should lovingly program her so she can unsubscribe..:) Cheers, Ken Hanly - Original Message - From: "Sabri Oncu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PEN-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:48 PM Subject: [PEN-L:35682] Re: UNSUBSCRIBE > > UNSUBSCRIB

Death of Herbert Aptheker

2003-03-17 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
* Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:45:20 -0500 From: Alan Wald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Death of Herbert Apthecker Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mlg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Friends, Wanted to let you know that Herbert Aptheker passed away this morning, surrounded by family and friends; he wou

Re: centralizaton

2003-03-17 Thread Michael Perelman
This article seems to relate to the material Nomi has been sending. Small banks earn from the interest rate differentials; presumably, large banks from fees. But why would banks pay a premium for the small banks? What sort of fees would they generate? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department C

In that Turkey

2003-03-17 Thread Sabri Oncu
"In that Turkey, there is a place for all the peoples of the world. There is a place for dignity, freedom, and solidarity." Thank you Emrah, Sabri +++ Turkey's Imperial Troops: How George Bush's War Is Threatening Democracy in Turkey By Emrah Göker March 17, 2003 -- 10:48 am EST When

Personal reminiscences of Rachel Corrie from Peter Bohmer

2003-03-17 Thread michael perelman
Peter Bohmer sent this. What awful times we live in. I wanted to share this with you. feel free topass it on and post it, Peter In memory of Rachel Corrie, March 17, 2003 Rachel Corrie was an incredibly good person. I mourn and am very saddened by her murder yesterday, March 16th, 2003. She wa

Re: UNSUBSCRIBE

2003-03-17 Thread Sabri Oncu
> UNSUBSCRIBE ME I HAVE RECEIVED 50 PEN-L > EMAILS SINCE I WAS TOLD I HAD BEEN UNSUBSCRIBED. Dear Lisa, To unsubcribe from PEN-L, send a message to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In the body of the message, type the following command: unsubscribe PEN-L With my deepest love, Sabri Oncu

UNSUBSCRIBE

2003-03-17 Thread Lisa
UNSUBSCRIBE ME I HAVE RECEIVED 50 PEN-L EMAILS SINCE I WAS TOLD I HAD BEEN UNSUBSCRIBED.

Re: The arrogant empire

2003-03-17 Thread Waistline2
The growing movement for peace captures a moment in the consciousness of the people of the United States. People are angry about what the Bush administration is doing, not only in cahoots with the Republican Party, but also with the Democratic Party's seal of approval. It's well-documented that t

the Saddam market

2003-03-17 Thread Ian Murray
http://www.newyorker.com THE FINANCIAL PAGE DECISIONS, DECISIONS by James Surowiecki Issue of 2003-03-24 Posted 2003-03-17 For months, traders on the world's stock and commodity exchanges have been preoccupied with one issue: war with Iraq. If you think that war will be over quickly, you buy stock

Germany-Thatcherization?

2003-03-17 Thread Ian Murray
Germany faces a Thatcherite conversion David Gow doesn't think Germany should be put through the kind of radical economic restructuring that the UK underwent in the 1980s Monday March 17, 2003 The Guardian Hans-Olaf Henkel, the former head of Germany's most powerful business lobby group, the BD

An Open Letter To Present and Future U.S. Troops

2003-03-17 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Drawing the Line: An Open Letter To Present and Future U.S. Troops by S. Brian Willson, a Vietnam Veteran December 2002 The United States government has admitted that in 2002 it has placed military forces at one time or another in at least 180 of the world's 210 nations, and articulated its inten

A Duty to Disobey All Unlawful Orders

2003-03-17 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
It is no longer appropriate to say simply, "Support Our Troops, Bring Them Home." It is time to call on all US soldiers -- and US civilians as well -- to uphold a duty to disobey all unlawful orders. * electronicIraq.net INTERNATIONAL LAW A duty to disobey all unlawful orders Lawrence Mo

Canada not willing....nor able either...

2003-03-17 Thread k hanly
As usual Chretien is all over the place and doesnt make much sense but at least he is not participating. Rather strange since he agrees that unilateral war is legal and that too is strange given that he went to all sorts of trouble to try and get a compromise UN resolution. At one point he also not

RE: PETITION: WE WANT TURKEY TO SAY "NO" TO WAR

2003-03-17 Thread Sabri Oncu
It is now official! After a meeting the President, the Chief of General Staff, the Prime Minister and the Minister of Foreign Affairs attended, the President's office announced that the resolution will be sent to the parliement as soon as possible. Sabri

Turkey Caves?

2003-03-17 Thread k hanly
Turkey Signals It May Be Ready to Assist U.S. Mon March 17, 2003 03:32 PM ET ANKARA (Reuters) - Turkey signaled on Monday that it may be ready to take urgent steps to assist its NATO ally the United States in any war on neighboring Iraq. Turkey's prime minister, president and military chief met fo

Goldsmith on the Legality of Iraq War

2003-03-17 Thread k hanly
Goldsmith's reading of the law is the stuff of Monty Python skits. He is running for the title of legal beagle for Bush to complement Blair his lapdog. If the former resolutions made action legal why on earth was a new resolution introduced? Why all the arm-twisting and bribes to get a totally un

RE: PETITION: WE WANT TURKEY TO SAY "NO" TO WAR

2003-03-17 Thread Sabri Oncu
Friends, It is getting serious. Some friends with connections in the Turkish parliement learnt that the government once again will bring the US troops resolution to the National Assembly, either tomorrow or Wednesday. We may have to send this petition with however many signatures we have as early

Re: Re: Re: US Marines under UK command?

2003-03-17 Thread andie nachgeborenen
There is nothing textual in the Const that speaks expressly to the question. The Const makes the Prez C in C, Art II s 2  cl 1, but the Prez can delegate his authority. I am not aware of any case law on the question, or indeed any statutory law. I wouldn't treat the VP of the Philippines as an expe

Re: Lewis Carroll for President

2003-03-17 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
At 12:20 PM -0600 3/17/03, Bill Lear wrote: http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/vol18/issue06/arts.lcarroll.html Examining the Looking-Glass Life of Lewis Carroll The Man Who Loved Little Girls by Ada Calhoun We live in paranoid times. But Britain in the mid-19th century is a far cry from cont

Re: Re: US Marines under UK command?

2003-03-17 Thread k hanly
Better tell that to the vice president of the Phillippines and numerous others.. Cheers, Ken Hanly US mulls placing troops under RP command: Guingona Posted: 1:14 PM (Manila Time) | Feb. 07, 2002 By INQ7.net VICE President Teofisto Guingona on Thursday said the United States government is still

Iskenderun actions

2003-03-17 Thread Louis Proyect
Anti-U.S. Demonstrations Continues Non-stop in Iskenderun Harbour Two demonstrations took place today in Iskenderun Harbour that was recently rented by the U.S. for military deployment in Turkey. Greenpeace activists blocked the entrance of the harbour with a truck carrying the sign written 'No

Re: remove

2003-03-17 Thread Louis Proyect
We just got the same idiotic complaint from Currier, a Paine-Webber thief, over on Marxmail. Perhaps he has too much time on his hands now that the average American has given up on Wall Street 3-card monte games. It is impossible to get on PEN-L or Marxmail without responding positively to a co

remove

2003-03-17 Thread Currier, Joseph
take me off this fucking list -Original Message- From: Bill Lear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:35663] Re: Re: Lewis Carroll for President On Monday, March 17, 2003 at 09:58:25 (-0800) Devine, James writes: > >also,

Re: US Marines under UK command?

2003-03-17 Thread andie nachgeborenen
Yes. jks    k hanly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I had the idea that the US constitution did not allow for US troops to beunder any but US command. Is that a myth?Cheers, Ken Hanlyhttp://www.drudgereport.com/command.htmDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online

Re: Re: Lewis Carroll for President

2003-03-17 Thread Bill Lear
On Monday, March 17, 2003 at 09:58:25 (-0800) Devine, James writes: > >also, he had an unhealty preference for young girls, which seems beyond >anything Clinton did. >... http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/vol18/issue06/arts.lcarroll.html Examining the Looking-Glass Life of Lewis Carroll The

US Marines under UK command?

2003-03-17 Thread k hanly
I had the idea that the US constitution did not allow for US troops to be under any but US command. Is that a myth? Cheers, Ken Hanly http://www.drudgereport.com/command.htm

re: Lewis Carroll for President

2003-03-17 Thread Devine, James
Title: re: [PEN-L:35660] Lewis Carroll for President   also, he had an unhealty preference for young girls, which seems beyond anything Clinton did. though Bush shows that personal morality may be much less important than public morality. jim end the war now! -Original Message-

Re: FW: Lewis Carroll for President

2003-03-17 Thread andie nachgeborenen
Hey, as the Red Queen says, you have to believe at least six impossible things before breakfast. And, alas, the movement is running as fast as it can to stay in the same place. Carroll is not constitutionally eligible to be Prez, as he is (a) dead, (b) Britis, and (c) not born here. But we can nom

FW: Lewis Carroll for President

2003-03-17 Thread Devine, James
Title: FW: Lewis Carroll for President Read by the author/commentator on the March 13, 2003 edition of All Things Considered on U.S.  National Public Radio All right.  Let me see if I understand the logic of this correctly: We are going to ignore the United Nations in order to make cl

Re: Re: maxim rodinson on edward said

2003-03-17 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "andie nachgeborenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Truth in what, that people in "literary philosophy: do not know one thing very well? It's true that there's an immense amount of ignorance and foolishness in literary theory. But it's dumb to diss someone because of hi

RE: World Champions 1908

2003-03-17 Thread Devine, James
 > > Yes, and the Chicago Cubs are going to win the World Series this year.  > That a promise? It's about time! jks    and the Messiah is coming soon. Jim 

Re: maxim rodinson on edward said

2003-03-17 Thread andie nachgeborenen
   soula avramidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: when maxim rodinson was asked what he thought of edward said in a very recent interview on aljazeera he said. I never liked from the beginning. he does not know the arab world and pretends he does.his thought is bourgeois and he is an idealist. up unt

World Champions 1908

2003-03-17 Thread andie nachgeborenen
> Yes, and the Chicago Cubs are going to win the World Series this year.Ian That a promise? It's about time! jksDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online

RE: Pilger article

2003-03-17 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:35625] Pilger article Pilger writes:>... Vladimir Slipchenko, one of the world's leading military analysts, says the testing of new weapons is a "main purpose" of the attack on Iraq. "Nobody is saying anything about it," he said last month. "In May 2001, in his first presiden

RE: farewell, long run...

2003-03-17 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:35639] farewell, long run... the "long run" never did exist, except in the NC imagination. (In this fevered vision, the LR referred to a unique equilibrium that existed independent of current conditions or actions or perceptions. It would be achieved eventually, if there were

Re: Re: Re: Fictitious capital

2003-03-17 Thread Nomiprins
In a message dated 3/17/2003 7:36:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With such enormous apparent collateral, telecoms firms could borrow without limit. Between 1996 and 2000 they took on $800 billion in bank debt and issued an additional $450 billion in bonds Following tele

The arrogant empire

2003-03-17 Thread Louis Proyect
(An extraordinary article since Newsweek is a pillar of mainstream opinion and since Fareed Zakaria is a typical inside-the-beltway pundit featured on Lehrer Newshour and Sunday morning TV talk shows.) The Arrogant Empire America’s unprecedented power scares the world, and the Bush administrat

Stop the Insanity

2003-03-17 Thread Moshe Pippik
Dick Chaney, George Bush's vice president says Iraq is so dangerous because it not only seeks "chemical, biological and nuclear weapons" but it could put those weapons of mass destruction into the hands of al-Qaeda. He doesn't stop there with his MANUFACTURED REASONS FOR ATTACKING IRAQ. The vice p

maxim rodinson on edward said

2003-03-17 Thread soula avramidis
when maxim rodinson was asked what he thought of edward said in a very recent interview on aljazeera he said. I never liked from the beginning. he does not know the arab world and pretends he does.his thought is bourgeois and he is an idealist. up until this moment he has no sound theoretical or pr

Re: Re: Fictitious capital

2003-03-17 Thread Seth Sandronsky
Re: Re: Fictitious capital FC and overproduction: “By spring 2000, at the apex of the stock market's ascent, the market capitalisation of the telecoms companies (the value of their outstanding shares) had reached a staggering $2.7 trillion, or close to 15 per cent of the total for all US non-f

Re: RE: Iraq's money supply

2003-03-17 Thread dsquared
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, "Devine, James" wrote: >clearly, using dollars within Iraq without their >express consent would violate their sovereignty. Our >wise and humble leaders would never do that! Luckily, >for a very small cost, they could get the US mint to >print up a passle of Iraqi dinars with B

Moment of failure

2003-03-17 Thread Chris Burford
"Moment of Truth" say some of the UK morning newspaper headlines. But actually this is a moment of failure - for US hegemonism, that we should not fail to notice in all the hype. The US, despite overwhelming military and economic dominance, despite all the sympathy after 9-11, despite the marke