Melvin said:
So how is incompatible with Marxism that raising wages above market
levels can reduce employment? He just decided that the living conditions of
sugar workers were less important than the needs of the economy.
Like some present-day socialists, he seems to thinks that using
David Shemano said:
The wonders of the internet. Here is Sowell explaining his shift away
from Marxism: http://www.salon.com/books/int/1999/11/10/sowell/index1.html
David Shemano
From that interview:
So you were a lefty once.
Through the decade of my 20s, I was a Marxist.
What made you
Doug asked:
So how is incompatible with Marxism that raising wages above market
levels can reduce employment? He just decided that the living
conditions of sugar workers were less important than the needs of
the economy.
Like some present-day socialists, he seems to thinks that using
[A sharp jab from the right. Would the economists among us like to comment?]
Low Taxes Do What? by Thomas Sowell
The high cost of economic illiteracy.
Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution.Some years ago,
the distinguished international-trade economist Jagdish Bhagwati was
Louis said:
Milosevic was
trying to preserve the tattered remnants of Titoist socialism.
What an insult to Tito, comparing to him to a crypto-fascist rabble rouser.
As I recall, it was when the NATO air forces started bombing capital
equipment belonging to Milosevic's business cronies that
Louis:
Leaving aside my admitted hyperbole and your Hitchens bait, I can't imagine
how any socialist familiar with the history of Yugoslavia in the 1990s,
would want to claim Milosevic as one of their own. If you don't have a low
opinion of him now, I can't imagine what it would take to change
Louis said:
The answer is easy. Just look at Yugoslavia today. Milosevic was an
obstacle to bring the country to heel. It is poorer today than it was
under Milosevic, even with the end of sanctions and warfare.
And this has nothing to do with Milosevic's policies?
Croatian nationalists
Chris said:
Anybody saying the war in Chechnya is about goddamn oil would get laughed
out the fucking door in Russia.
I believe you, but just because an idea is not popular it doesn't make it
untrue. I doubt if many Americans believe that the war in Iraq is about
oil and yet that idea is
Bush rival joins Latham attack
By Peter Hartcher, in Washington and Cosima Marriner
June 14, 2004
The campaign of the Democratic candidate for the US presidency, John Kerry,
has for the first time rejected Mark Latham's plan to recall Australian
troops from Iraq by Christmas, leaving the Labor
Wikipedia, it would
probably receive a wider audience.
jim devine
I'm glad to hear this; I didn't think the existing entries were so bad.
Grant Lee (whose name fought on both sides of the US civil war)
As I never tire of saying, my name is a snapshot of a historical dialectic
in action
Calvin wrote:
Devine, James wrote:
what ever happened to the idea of producing a wikipedia of leftist
political economy? I proposed it and someone said he'd look into it... and
then I heard nothing.
Why not just produce a wikipedia of objective political economy? If that
turns out to be
The Telegraph - Calcutta: Opinion
Sunday, May 23, 2004
SINGH ON A TIGHTROPE
Can the Congress please its allies and also keep India Inc. happy?
Partha Chatterjee
The author is director and professor of political science, Centre for
Studies in Social Sciences, Calcutta
It is no longer
Aljazeera.Net - Shia groups see end to Najaf siege[Some more of the
complexities within Iraqi Shia politics are revealed. Note: (1) there has
been a peaceful demonstration _against_ Sadr in Najaf; (2) some Sadrists, if
not Sadr, appear to endorse the peace plan described below, which (3)
includes
Doug said:
Someone here characterized oil as cheap. By what measure? Even at
$20 - which it hasn't been for a long time - its cost is well above
the cost of production in the Middle East. At almost $40, there are
huge rents being claimed by elites in oil-exporting countries; being
a major
Michael said:
I don't disagree with you, but I cannot see why we should take this
group more seriously than Chalabi or other collaborators.
We should take them more seriously because --- unlike Chalabi --- they are
people who have lived in Iraq under Saddam, (something which no doubt has
Soula:
In answer to your question, no, I don't read Arabic. I wish I had the
aptitude for languages of someone like Marx (a belated happy 186th to him)
who -- not content with German, Greek, Latin, French, English and
Italian --- was learning Turkish when he died.
I do not think the occupation
Chris Doss wrote:
He wrote a hilarious book review in the eXile recently saying that the
left should just admit that the anarchists in the Spanish Civil War were
a bunch of loons and that the only one who was looking at the big
picture was Stalin.
Yes, hilarious is just the right
Ken:
Thanks for your reasoned remarks, which illustrate a willingness to engage
with the present situation.
As I've already said, my recent usage of imperialism was not supposed to
be definitive, and I agree with your comments on this.
THe issue is the status
of those who side with
Louis said:
I guess you aren't aware that the British were responsible originally
for dividing people by religion in the colonies. You might as well ask
the tobacco industry to spearhead an anti-smoking campaign.
Of course I'm aware of that. And what use would it have been to point that
out
Soula said:
There is now an effort from many communist parties to denounce the Iraqi
communist party for collaborating in the invasion. It seems that
their collaboration purposely or not with the US and the CIA goes back to
their vehement fight against the pan Arab project because the
Louis said:
In a technical sense the Afrikaner bourgeoisie exploited both white and
black workers, but what does that mean? Yes, a white diamond-cutter
produced surplus value, just as a black miner did but the white worker
would likely have a black gardener and maid. These people were the
Soula said:
That is one Hakim down and probably another to go. that is no Shiite
opposition, You have got to also realise that there is a stronger
Persia-Arab divide than what shiism can pull together because the Iranians
in Iraq represented the aristocracy and if one were to read behind
Louis said:
Of course Abdul Aziz al Hakim is opposed to an immediate US withdrawal.
He is a member of the quisling Iraqi governing council.
Oh, I see, they're _quislings_. Well that settles that. No doubt you've
conducted a thorough, professional survey of Iraqis to ascertain their views
of
Louis said:
I would suggest that when 20 percent of the households in the USA own 3
or more cars and only 14 cars per 1,000 residents in Africa, the primary
contradiction--at least for the time being--will be between this
imperialist power and nations in the South.
This is like saying: men
Michael said:
I cannot understand what kind of communist party would join with the US,
or why we
should take such a party seriously.
I don't think that's the real issue. No-one knows whether the insurgents are
more popular than the US-backed council; it will take an election to
establish that.
Last post for me today.
My usage of imperialism a few posts back --- the presumption that one
knows better than people on the ground --- was not supposed to be definitive
or exclusive of all other usages. Nor did I say it was.
Just for the record, I was opposed to the invasion, and I took part
I said:
As Marx, among others, alluded, a
distinctive thing about the later settler colonial societies was that they
imported not only the workers from Europe, but also fully-devloped
capitalist relations of production (unhappy Mr Peel).
Correction: Marx was alluding to the _incomplete_
Happy May Day!
Jim said:
throw a shrimp on the Barbie!
The famous tourism ads featuring Paul Hogan used the word shrimp for US
audiences; shrimp here are small fish, rather than crustaceans (prawns).
Anyway, here's the original article referred to by CNN, based on the new
book: _How Australia
Doug said:
Typing this with Hell's Bells playing on iTunes. Puts me in mind of
when I saw AC/DC at The Roundhouse in London in the summer of 1976,
before they were famous. We'd stumbled in looking for a drink after
the pubs closed at 11 and found ourselves at a great show.
I don't get this.
Hi Mike,
We must have that beer some time soon.
Is LNG the same as what's being promoted in Australia
as LPG? So as when we run low on petrol (peak oil),
we can sell zeez nice carbon based stuff for the
burning. In Australia, most petrol stations already
sell LPG or as it is known, auto
Paul Phillips said:
The fact that human capital is tracked by class is not really rellevant.
Does one tract physical capital by class? Does a backhoe owned by a
working class person have less value than the backhoe owned by GW Bush?
It's not the notional class of the person which counts,
PS: I suppose it might be possible that identical twin siblings, both
proprietors of identical capitalist enterprises, one with an MBA and one
without, had differing rates of accumulation, but even then it wouldn't
necessarily be down to their respective levels of education and/or that
piece of
Doug said:
I'd say that
developing new forms of union organization (involving workers
themselves and broader communities than the immediate workplace),
changing U.S. labor law, raising the minimum wage, agitating for the
basics of a civilized welfare state, reducing the role of
shareholders
Yoshie said:
I'm not sure what you mean by the reluctance of the left in
developed countries to engage in the class struggle at the level of
relations of production.
I mean the willingness to take matters of identity politics (for want of a
better term) at face value, rather than examining
Michael Dawson said:
How does Sweeney's failure to change the AFL-CIO have anything to do with
New Left theorizing, however flawed that may be? In order to save itself
from the grave it's backing into, labor needs to sever its ties to
existing
political parties and radically overhaul its
Yoshie said:
I don't see any lack of willingness to examine struggles against
white supremacy, sexism, etc. in terms of their relationship to the
class struggle, and vice versa, among leftists who have some respect
for the socialist and other radical left-wing traditions. Whether or
not
But don't ask me actually how to play the game. I always went
paralytic.
i have always assumed that a paralytic condition is a pre-requisite for
the lethargic sport ;-). don't tell my cricketing family, but
personally, i prefer basketball!
--ravi
Truly terrible confessions. I'm
The West Australian
March 05, 2004
[A front page story from my local paper. The last paragraph is illuminating.
Perth is rated by The Economist as one of the world's most liveable
cities. Marx summed up such paradoxes well in his General Law of Capitalist
Accumulation:
it is capitalistic
[From the New York Post's Page Six gossip column...hmmm, how reliable is
this, you NYers? *lol*]
SOPRANOS sweetie Jamie-Lynn DiScala says it took a brave man to ask her
out before she married her manager, A.J. DiScala, last July. I dated one
celebrity during the third season and he didn't treat
Thanks Louis, for the interesting thoughts on the piqueteros and Straub's
take on them.
As it happens an Argentine friend referred me to the following article from
the left/liberal _Pagina 12_, regarding opinion polling on the piqueteros.
(My friend's take is that the polling is pretty accurate,
[I love the analogy made below re. Woolworth's, which is purely a
supermarket chain in Australia...]
Free Trade Deal details made public
ABC Local Radio, The World Today, Thursday, 4 March , 2004
HAMISH ROBERTSON: [...] finance correspondent Stephen Long has been perusing
the lengthy document,
a Maori coming of age story with a twist--in
this case the protagonist is a teenage girl rather than a boy.
Although Keisha Castle-Hughes is an Australian Aboriginal, she clearly
has an exceptional ability to make her character Pai come to life.
In fact, Keisha's mother is Maori and she has
Yoshie said:
I hear that Gibson's film is soft on the empire and tough on the
mob and the national elite. It's a fitting blockbuster for the New
American Century.
Being familiar with Gibson's philosophies, I have no intention of seeing
this movie.
Anyway, I'm no expert on the history of
MercoPress - Falklands-Malvinas South Atlantic News
Tuesday, 17 February
Max Gainza - Buenos Aires Herald My experience of the Falklands.
The massive, daunting military complex at Mount Pleasant Airbase (MPA), the
only commercial airport on the Falkland Islands, leaves you feeling anything
but
[Throughout the long lead-up to the riot on Sunday, in the Aboriginal ghetto
of the Redfern Block in Sydney, the World Socialist Web Site remains one
of the few media sources to have consistently covered the key role in this
of a sub-stratum of capital --- a nascent Aboriginal capitalist class.
I recall that Truman described Macarthur's farewell address to Congress as
100% pure bullsh*t, which was probably accurate.
Macarthur was a winner and a bastard.. He's even less favourably remembered
in Australia --- for most of 1942, most of his land forces were Aussies, and
from his office in
Thanks Eugene, amazing stuff.
The story is also on the San Francisco Chronicle
website, for those of us who don't have subs and are unable to buy the WSJ at
the local newsagent:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/02/11/financial1013EST0050.DTL
-
Mariella Frostrup was cited as saying:
Look at the poor Scandinavians, with the best social
system in Europe, if not the world, and yet they regularly top the global
suicide list.
If this was ever true, it is no longer true, except perhaps for Iceland. In
fact, Denmark, Sweden and Norway are
Paul Phillips cited
Let's start with the Bank of Canada, which enforces our most famous
economic rule: keeping core inflation between 1 and 3 per cent, come
hell or high water. Following this rule, the bank concluded two years
ago that Canada's economy risked severe overheating (despite
I was struck by the vigour with which the assembled Chinese Marxist
economists were discussing the law of value--- in particular, how to
demonstrate that utility yields value and the capitalist is a productive
worker.
This is ironical, right?
I would be one of the last people to defend the
allAfrica.com: Mauritius: Mauritius Seeks to Become a Global Cyber Island
Paradise[Mauritius also used to have a GINI of zero, although I'm not sure
if it's doing that well now. Note as well the role of the Indian
government.]
Mauritius Seeks to Become a Global Cyber Island Paradise
The Australian: US slip exposes tank 'deal' [ 27jan04 ]
[This shows the extent to which Australian forces have become a US foreign
legion --- the Leopard 2 appears to be both better and more suited to
conditions in SE Asia and the SW Pacific than the M1.]
US slip exposes tank 'deal'
By John
Mail Guardian Online:[Interesting to note in this context that Nigeria is
one of the few places in the developing world which has experienced
widespread labour shortages recently.]
Nigerian fuel tax battle goes to court
Ola Awoniyi | Abuja, Nigeria
26 January 2004 15:16
Nigeria's government
The Register
All Internet voting is insecure: report
By electricnews.net
Posted: 23/01/2004 at 11:37 GMT
Online voting is fundamentally insecure due to the architecture of the
Internet, according to leading cyber-security experts.
Using a voting system based upon the Internet poses a serious
[Looks like the dairy and sugar barons have got the US Senate by the
gonads]
Free trade deal with US under threat
By Tim Colebatch
Economics Editor
The Age
January 23, 2004
Prospects for a meaningful free trade agreement between Australia and the US
are in jeopardy, with 31 of the 100 US
Subject: ICFTU condemns killing of Cambodian trade union leader
From: ICFTU Press [EMAIL PROTECTED]
INTERNATIONAL CONFEDERATION OF FREE TRADE UNIONS (ICFTU)
ICFTU Online: 009220104
ICFTU condemns killing of Cambodian trade union leader
Brussels, January 22 (ICFTU OnLine): Cambodian
VOANews.comTextile War Looms Between US, Vietnam
Larry Schooler
Cooleemee, North Carolina
31 Dec 2003, 19:10 UTC
The United States and Vietnam re-established diplomatic relations in 1995,
nearly two decades after Washington severed ties following the fall of
Saigon and a long, bitter war.
From: Michael Perelman
Is Qadhafi the first person in US history to make the transition from
demon to statesman? Usually, it goes the other way.
Stalin in 1941-45? And then back to demon again.
Regarding child abuse in pre-modern societies, I think we often tend to see
in such societies the things that we want to see, i.e. noble savages. And
what is considered abuse in one society may be a social norm or even an
obligation in another society. Infanticide, genital multilation, incest,
Millions milked
The Age, November 17, 2003
Claims of mismanagement threaten the rapidly expanding child-care industry,
writes James Kirby.
Australia's child-care boom is turning ugly. Behind the painted smiles and
cuddly brand names, this $3 billion service industry is at war with itself.
A BRW
I would like to request that any responses to my last post do NOT use the
same title as that post.
Regards,
Grant.
http://www.nationmaster.com
There are some surprises. For example:
GDP real growth rate [7.5%]
1. East Timor 18% (2001 est.)
2. Man, Isle of 13.5% (1999 est.)
3. Kazakhstan 12.2% (2001 est.)
4. Turkmenistan 10% (2001 est.)
5. Armenia 9.6% (2001 est.)
6. Mozambique 9.2% (2001 est.)
7. Ukraine 9%
[When UN cops arrested a union activist in East Timor a few weeks ago, I
made a comment about how even the occupiers of Iraq hadn't stooped that
low --- apparently I was wrong.]
IRAQ: Workers resist US ban on unions
BY ALAN MAASS
* * * *
More than half a year after Saddam Hussein's government
From: andie nachgeborenen
Calling scientific socialism Marxism
isn't something either of them did much
According to Hal Draper, Marx never referred to scientific socialism
either, although the term was already around, invented by Karl GrĂ¼n. Engels
obviously _did_ use it.
I believe it was
[from the NYT]
The shift from an agricultural-support system designed to discourage
overproduction to one that encourages it dates to the early 1970's -- to the
last time food prices in America climbed high enough to generate significant
political heat. That happened after news of Nixon's 1972
[I don't believe the occupying forces in Iraq have stooped this low...well
not yet anyway.]
Australian unionist arrested by UN in Dili
October 7, 2003 - 2:14PM
United Nations police have arrested an Australian union official in East
Timor in what international unions describe as unprecedented
Darker days ahead for Italy as demand outstrips supplyMon 29 Sep 2003
Darker days ahead for Italy as demand outstrips supply
ANALYSIS
GETHIN CHAMBERLAIN
AS THE lights began to come back on in Italy yesterday, politicians moved
swiftly to promise the construction of 20 new power-generating
the type of foreign aid and
reconstruction that Iraqis may expect from foreign occupiers . . .
a gift of infected animals rejected by ten countries . . . just in
time for a Muslim holy day!
Let's not jump to politically convenient conclusions based on stereotypes
and scanty evidence. Note,
No one else has wanted the sheep so far -- even for free! -- though:
Give a sheep a bad name...
the U.S. authorities in Baghdad so often
look like they don't know what they're doing -- because they don't. Many
of them are smart, talented, and eager. But they can't talk with the Army
about security, they can't talk with Iraqi specialists about civil needs
-- in short, they can't find out
Reuters AlertNet - FEATURE-Islamists crave more say in post-Mahathir
Malaysia
21 Sep 2003 01:42:38 GMT
FEATURE-Islamists crave more say in post-Mahathir Malaysia
By Simon Cameron-Moore
KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 21 (Reuters) - They distrust the United States, they
abhor Israel, and they want to turn
From: Mike Ballard
Question: Can anyone provide a source for that quote
about culture and getting one's gun which is
attributed to Doctor Goebbels in this piece. I've
heard the quote before and sometimes it has been
attributed to Irone Cross winner Goering and at other
times to some
Hi Melvin,
I think you hit a few nails on the head in your post. The situation is not
different to the US here, with some exceptions. I can't remember if you are
on the LBO-talk list or not, but below are my follow-up comments there.
Doug Henwood:
So what's this mean? Why has the Australian
Financial Review: Unemployment at 13-year low
Unemployment at 13-year low
Jim Parker
2003/09/11
Australia's unemployment rate has plunged to a 13-year low as a stunning
recovery in full-time jobs further highlights the swift turnaround in the
economy's fortunes.
The seasonally adjusted rate of
Financial Review: Shell's Nigerian workers hold firm
Shell's Nigerian workers hold firm
2003/09/10
Informal talks between the Anglo-Dutch oil giant Shell and striking Nigerian
workers appeared deadlocked, two weeks into the latest labour dispute to
disrupt Africa's largest oil industry.
Shell's
allAfrica.com: South Africa [analysis]: Mbeki Seeks to Capitalise On Thaw in
Malaysian Politics
[A fine article. Check, in particular, the section on affirmative action.]
Mbeki Seeks to Capitalise On Thaw in Malaysian Politics
Business Day (Johannesburg)
ANALYSIS
September 5, 2003
Posted to the
Population ageing faster than thought - National - www.theage.com.au
Population ageing faster than thought
By Tim Colebatch
Economics Editor
September 3, 2003
Australia in 2051 is likely to have a million more people than previously
thought - but most of the extras will be people over 65 years
I think Tom Brass's work on deproletarianisation and unfree labour is
relevant here (cf/eg):
'... Brass (1990, 1992, 1997a) and Miles (1987) take an opposing view that
unfree relations are compatible with capitalism, comprising part of
capitalists' assault on the autonomy and wages of labour.
From: michael
The point I tried to make suggests that protection might make sense.
Suppose,
as I suggested, that the protected resource has no alternative economic
uses.
I understand where you're coming from. The point I'm trying to make is that
tariffs are a poor welfare measure because
Some more context to that Japanese agri-exports story:
Farm product exporters like the U.S. [not to mention most developing
countries] have proposed that tariffs on all agricultural products be cut to
25 percent or less. On the other hand, Japan and the EU have favored setting
different tariffs
From: michael
Others probably know much more than me about this, but the Japanese farm
system operates as a subsidy. I know
when I was studying this situation for a book I published in 1977 that
many of the farmers were elderly or people
who would otherwise be unemployed. Subsidizing
Gene:
The idea of simply paying farmers to not farm suggests a hollowing out
of agriculture such as is being
discussed re American manufacturing.
If the argument in favor of any form of protectionism is about preserving
jobs/livelihoods, there is a a counter argument about the dual pain caused
The Japan Times: Aug. 16, 2003
Japan has long been on the defensive over agricultural trade as it sought
to protect the nation's farmers, but it may soon go on the offensive.
The semi-governmental Japan External Trade Organization in July formed a
panel of experts tasked with drawing up a
smh.com.au - The Sydney Morning HeraldBy John Garnaut
August 8, 2003
Paying foreign shipping crews foreign wages while working Australian waters,
a cost-cutting scheme defended by the Howard Government, was sinking fast
after a union victory yesterday.
In a unanimous decision, the High Court
Marty said:
Well there is a lot surrounding the issue but I would say first of all
that the left should be careful to endorse a strategy of growth that
promotes exports in one country at the expense of worker well-being in
others.
I have neither the intention nor the ability to promote such
Martin Hart-Landsberg wrote:
The difficulty in export-led development certainly should be clear in
the case of Mexico. It succeeded over the 1990s in attracting lots of
fdi and export growth. But at the cost of hollowing out its domestic
industry. Now a bit of wage growth and rising
[from allAfrica.com]
July 29, 2003
Hector Igbikiowubo
The bidding round for nine oil blocks in the Nigeria /Sao Tome and Principe
Joint Development Zone valued at $200 million have survived the coup scare
in the Island nation following the reinstatement of the deposed government
headed by
[I know the feeling]
Life is a strain and work to blame
By Workplace Issues Reporter MARIA MOSCARITOLO
28jul03
OUR jobs take away family time, interfere with our sex lives and make us
tired and irritable, a new survey reveals.
More than half of all [Australian] workers feel their jobs make
[Apologies for the cross-posting.]
The Australian government's Productivity Commission [sic] has just released
a report on social capital. Considering the enthusiasm for the concept by
mainstream politicians --- right and left --- the report is surprisingly
critical, although it fits with the
Louis,
I think the unfortunate truth is that if the PCC had
wanted to achieve anything like full economic development -- on such a
small, resource-poor and politically isolated island -- it would have to
have resorted to a far greater degree of coercion. That has been the case
in
the
Louis,
Oh, I see. We are dealing with gulags, aren't we. I should have realized
that this is what you were getting at. For another version of reality, I
recommend Edward Boorstein's The Economic Transformation of Cuba
Both Boorstein's anecdote _and_ the existence of some forced labour in
Aldo,
The following paper on Fiji may be of interest to you:
Scott MacWilliam, 2002, Poverty, corruption governance in Fiji
http://peb.anu.edu.au/pdf/PEB17-1macwilliam.pdf
regards,
Grant.
Louis,
But I said that the right to work in a capitalist country, including
Chavez's Venezuela or Peron's Argentina, is not the same thing as job
entitlements in Cuba or the USSR, for that matter. This is a fundamental
distinction.
What are job entitlements really, when the alternative is a
Louis,
So, fine. Malaysia is not the best example. Let's compare Peron's
Argentina with Menem's Argentina.
Yes, Juan Peron's program was leftist, revolving around state ownership,
tariffs, subsidies and so on. Nevertheless it did not go anywhere near the
vital step of annihilating capital
Louis,
Everything is relative. Malaysia is
relatively protectionist, as opposed to Argentina, for example.
Until recently, both had very open markets in most sectors of their
economies. I have to say that the Malaysian economy and its politics seem to
be poorly understood by people outside the
Jim,
I think Michael is right, discussions about Stalin have been done to
deathso to speak.
What is important is that most people in the USSR did support the regime
most of the time. It may not have lived up to the stated intention to
abolish the state, but it is that stated which is crucial
Jim Devine writes:
Grant writes:
In reality I don't really think there is much difference between
state socialism and state capitalism, although the former is
distinguished
by the support of the working class and the stated intention to abolish
the
state, at some point in the future.
did
Louis:
From the viewpoint of US capital it makes no difference whether it is
excluded from a capitalist protectionist state or a socialist one.
Of course it does. A socialist state like Cuba is the threat of a positive
example. Malaysia is just a place that you can't make a fast buck.
Tell
Louis,
In fact, the USA has used every means within its disposal since the
Mexican revolution of Zapata and Pancho Villa (which actually predates
the Russian revolution) to crush attempts to control the wealth of a
nation for its own benefit--even when this is under the direction of a
From:Chris Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Coincidentally I was doing a Google search and came across this
contribution to LBO-talk in October 2001 by Greg Schofield, which seems to
put the issue well.
[Unfortunately his email address no longer seems to be working. If anyone
can forward me
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