yOn Wed, 24 Dec 1997, Tom Walker wrote:
What do we know about the massacre in Chenalho and when did we know it?
We know a great deal about it. There are dozens of messages posted since
the story first broke. Visit the Chiapas95 archives and look in the file
called "current". This kind of
I had a run-in with Esther Dyson in New York a while back, at a conference
at Columbia. She's ferociously pro-business and took nasty exception to my
critique of the commercialization of the web and to my suggesting that
Russia peasants were right to be wary of privatization because the history
Sounds like Sachs is fed up with having his advice ignored. He
repeatedly called for IMF austerity programs in Eastern Europe to be
backed by debt forgiveness and large scale aid --neither of which was
forthcoming in most cases. It is worth remembering, however, that Sachs
and the IMF mostly
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Subject: SUDAN Update: Send signatures to ...
Feel free to pass this note along... I hope I'm not making some huge
electron
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Subject: Please post this to PEN-L and other lists: Four Women Facing Imminent Death
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 12:03:12 -0500
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On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Louis N Proyect wrote:
So what's the problem with historical materialism? I happen to find it
very useful in understanding fascism. What methodology DG use in
understanding fascism is simply beyond me, but their conclusions are nuts:
Louis: My problems with historical
On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Doug Henwood wrote:
Well I am actually pretty familiar with that literature, and not just the
classic stuff on Oedipal neuroses, but the pre-oedipal/narcissistic stuff
too. (One of my prized possessions is a Standard Edition of the complete
Freud. snip
And I still found
On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Doug Henwood wrote:
I haven't read Thousand Plateaus. I tried to read Anti-Oedipus, but I gave
up after about 50 pages because I thought it was complete nonsense. Since I
respect your opinions a lot, Harry, I'll give 1000Ps a shot.
Doug
Doug: Thanks for the kind
On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Doug Henwood wrote:
Ok, Deleuze Guattari are nutters, Lacan a bit of a fraud, Irigaray an
arcane idealist - but what do we do now? How do you do real critical
science studies? I think Alan Sokal should give us a hint of what he thinks.
Doug
Doug: I beg to differ,
Does anyone know anything about the bit of Spanish Civil war history
mentioned below? Or do you know someone who might know? If you do know
could you reply to both the M-Fem list below and to me. Thanks
Harry
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Andrew: Can you resend this message in the body of the text and/or as
text-only?
On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, Andrew Dragun wrote:
Peadophilia, cover-up and dirty politics?
Some folks might find this interesting! ... Ms Arena, who
made the allegations, is highly believable ... she was
responsible
Why don't you tell us about how you have been "teaching on the internet"
and what you have learned from it?
Harry
On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, A. S. Fatemi wrote:
As one who has been engaged in teaching on the internet for some two
years, I'm glad this article from the NYT was posted for the
Louis:
I read somewhere --and I don't know whether it is true or not-- that
Seagal demanded the right to say anything he wanted at the end of his
Alaska film, with no producer censorship, as a condition for making the
flick. As you probably know, he used those ten minutes to denounce
I first heard this story during the Iraq-Iran War when the Iranians were
reported to be using soldiers to clear land mines by just marching through
the fields. Then it was a flat out joke:
Ali sees Mohammed walking ten feet behind his wife and says "Mohammed,
don't you know that according to
On Mon, 25 Aug 1997, Louis Proyect wrote:
I'm glad god blessed me with a big mouth. The TV show "Law and Order" is
filming on the premises of Columbia Teachers College where I work. The show
presents a right-wing version of the crime problem, as would be indicated
by the title. It is
On Mon, 25 Aug 1997, Louis N Proyect wrote:
I was wrong about the usual villain being a minority member on "Law and
Order" but I'll stick with everything else I said about the show. There
is nothing liberal about it. To use the word liberal to describe it would
strip the word of all
Folks:
The recent exchange on prostitution came to an end and I am not interested
in reopening it where we left off, but I think most of you will find the
following communication of considerable interest. It comes from Sera
Pinwell, a woman working in the sex industry in Australia --one who is
Is Capitalism Sustainable? Let's hope not, or rather let's do our best to
make sure that it continues to be able to sustain itself for as short a
time as possible. "Sustainable Capitalism" is a nightmare.(That includes
"sustainable development" because "development" has always meant
capitalist
On Sat, 16 Aug 1997, Michael Perelman wrote:
I am getting very positive feedback about Michael E.'s UPS postings,
plus a couple of complaints about the volume that one individual is
sending.
Michael: I may have an unusually powerful delete finger, but I don't mind
using it and E's postings
On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, James Michael Craven wrote:
I
did not find these women and men seeing themselves as "self-
valorizing" themselves or practicing a form of "self-determination"
or "empowered" in any meaningful way. Sure some would mock the tricks
and take delite in getting over on them
On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, James Michael Craven wrote:
Harry,
Since you assert that my assertions about the nature and effects of
prostitution are mere a priori assertions, please answer the
following: 1) How many prostitutes have you personally spoken with at
length about these issues? 2)
On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Louis Proyect wrote:
So I guess this autonomic Marxism is something I have to learn more about.
My only reaction to Harry's post is that anything that coincides with the
thinking of the dreadful Karl Carlile must be re-examined. But what do I know.
Louis: Although Franco
On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, James Michael Craven wrote:
Response (Jim C): I agree with your notion that there are many forms
and levels of prostitution and indeed many forms and levels of
brutality and degradation under capitalism. But another way of
interpreting your comments above--about sex
On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Wojtek Sokolowski wrote:
A comment on the issue whether women forced into prostitution have some choice.
1. The fact of depriving a person some choices, even those deemed important
in our society, does not meet depriving that person of all choices. A
prostitute may
On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, James Michael Craven wrote:
These women were slaves, pure and simple--which is not
to say that "prostitutes" are doing what they are doing out of
some "choice" or without coercion.
Jim: Thanks for your comments. In general I agree with them. I do think,
however, that
Folks:
Some of you with internationalist leanings might be interested in
paying some attention to the 2nd Intercontinental Encounter now underway
in Spain. This 2nd Encounter follows the first which was held in
Chiapas, Mexico last summer. There were over 3,000 grassroots
activists at that
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On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Doug Henwood wrote:
This is an important point. In a time when so many of the dwindling band of
radical political economists are in hot pursuit of respectability - math,
suits and/or stockings, and everything - it's easy to lose the sense that
capitalism is a really
Anyone been reading the stories refered to? Anyone care to counter
Samuelson's piece?
OPINION
The News
Mexico City, September 27 1996.
IGNORANT EDITORS PUBLISH JUNK JOURNALISM
By ROBERT J. SAMUELSON
Washington Post
Folks:
Over the last few days, energized by paricipation in the Intercontinental
Encuentro, I have given in to the temptation to debate some
pro-capitalist ideologues over the nature of the economy and of
economics. I usually resist getting involved in such debates because they
are often
On Thu, 15 Aug 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To whoever it was who appeared on CNN and wanted
us all to comment on it: It would have been helpful if
you had signed your name!
Barkley Rosser
The name was there, in the header, i.e.,
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 11:29:21 -0700 (PDT)
From:
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 12 07:38:40 1996
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 07:41:48 -0400
From: Tom Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Cyberdemo: ICEM-USWA Bridgestone/Firestone
On Tue, 21 May 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This announcement ran in the 1996 3rd issue of New York STREET NEWS:
"Paris in December" "What the mainstream media did not tell you about the
French Strikes on December 95. What has happened in France is directly
related to what has been
To those of you who are professors with graduate students:
I have recently added to my homepage some information on past and current
M.A. Theses and Ph.D. dissertations which I have supervised. In the case
of current dissertations, i.e., under construction, I am including the
formal
This posting has been forwarded to you as a service of=20
Accion Zapatista de Austin.
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La Jornada, April 6, 1996
MESSAGE OF THE
I sent Nello a reference to the Chase materials accessible through the
Chiapas95 homepage.
Harry
On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Jim Jaszewski wrote:
I'm forwarding this to the erudite crew in PEN-L. Perhaps y'all
can help:
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Is anyone, anywhere undertaking the serious work of attacking
"intellectual property rights" --besides the pro-indigenous groups who
are trying to keep them from getting ripped off?
Harry
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 10:42:16 -0500 (EST)
From: JB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Copyright Holders Patrol
Friends:
Check this out!
Harry
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 09:15:26 -0600 (CST)
From: Harry M. Cleaver hmcleave@mundo
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Grade Strike
Eve:
Please put me on your mailing list for any and all information about this
strike. You
On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Louis N Proyect wrote:
I have been giving a monthly workshop on the Internet to community
activists, labor organizers, students, professors and radicals at the Brecht
Forum for over a year now.
On Friday, I will be going out to New Jersey to give a workshop on the
Friends:
This following notes were a byproduct of reading, and of work on an essay
on "The Zapatistas and the Electronic Fabric of Struggle" which I will
share with you one day soon. Any comments would be welcome.
Harry
THE "SPACE" OF CYBERSPACE: Body Politics, Frontiers and Enclosures
Two questions:
1. Does anyone know a good reference/discription/analysis of the conflict
over speedup at the Lordstown plant of Ford(?) that led to widespread
sabotage by young workers. This was back in the 1970s I think.
2. Has anyone seen, or written, anything interesting on the use of
On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Doug Henwood wrote:
The current issue of the IMF Survey (November 6, 1995), reports on the
Fund's new data initiative, which would "encourage," in their
ever-so-persuasive way, countries to publish a minimum set of economic
statistics "on a regular and timely basis."
On Wed, 25 Oct 1995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Folks,
I just finished reading "THE CASE FOR SHORTER WORK TIME by Bruce O'Hara."
This is GREAT STUFF.
I noticed the next topic is on leisure. I finished book on that topic last
year (Ten Speed Press) entitled "Serious Play."
To honor these
For those who like the idea --mean spirited, resentful failures that you
are-- take a look at the TAX THE RICH homepage and its various followup
pages: http://www.webcom.com/~ttr/home.html
The following is from the homepage, though you can't see which items you
can click on, I'll bet you can
Doug:
Thanks for the update. Have they joined the Right Wing National
Association of Scholars? Have they joined David Horowitz's "Second
Thoughts" group of ex-new lefties turned neoconservative? Probably not
the latter. After all Eugene was blasting the New Left years ago. His
wife's
citation to an article of the kind
that needs to be written about Genovese's history, his theory and his
politics, but I can't. Nor do I have time to write one, at this point.
Sorry.
Harry
On Thu, 24 Aug 1995 "Harry M. Cleaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
Doug:
Thanks
On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, Massimo De Angelis wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, John R. Ernst wrote:
Let me keep it simple. The only way any quantity of labor can become
abstract
(social) is via exchange. Given that so much linen exchanges for so much
gold,
the labor that produced the
On Fri, 23 Jun 1995, john rosenthal wrote:
I don't know what's in the WWW site. But just a slight (actually kind of a
huge) correction. While it's true that Iqbal Masih at some point visited the
US and "then" was shot to death -- it's not true that he was murdered *in*
the US. Unless I'm
very intuitive, but insightful observations on Money and some of its
its uses in capitalism.
Harry
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From: Harry M. Cleaver hmcleave@mundo
To: Chiapas95 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Jornada, Mar. 25 Refugees Refuse
As North American and international capital seek to drum into the heads
of economists the oneness of money and blood, the push is on to formally
tie the peso to the dollar, to hand over control of Mexican monetary policy
to Alan Greenspan.
Item #1: Steve Hanke, "Critics Err--Mexico Still
OK folks. Those of you who are actively involved in solidarity work with
chiapas and the Zapatistas but who don't want to subscribe to every
relevant list can send me a note and get added to MY list, which is not a
regular list, just a mailing list. I subscribe to most relevant lists,
gather,
On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Doug Henwood wrote:
I think Counterpunch did an important thing by circulating this famous
memo, but the danger of this sort of muckraking is always that it focuses
too much attention on individuals and away from systemic forces. You don't
need a memo to know that Wall
On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Doug Henwood wrote:
At 10:52 AM 2/15/95, Harry M. Cleaver wrote:
I see no "danger" here. I see no opposition between identifying the
functionaries of capital and understanding "systemic forces". In the
first place theoretical arguments about &qu
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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 22:00:18 -0600 (CST)
From: Harry M. Cleaver hmcleave@mundo
Subject: More on Banks vs Zapatistas
Note Bene: The information in this interview complements the Chase
internal report and Silverstein and Cockburn's article
On Fri, 27 Jan 1995, Ted Kuster wrote:
Does anyone know of a good resource (in English or Spanish)
on the Mexican steel industry? I've got an assignment from a
steel trade publication to look into the consequences of
privatization, NAFTA and economic collapse for steel in Mexico,
and
On Fri, 15 Jul 1994, Trond Andresen wrote:
I am hunting for Marx/Engels quotations re their critique of
utopian socialism(- ists). Can anybody help?
Trond
Trond: The most obvious refs are the last part of the MANIFESTO and Engel's
comments in ANTI-DUHRING. You need more than that?
Day after day, I noted and downloaded the stream of messages on grades,
grade inflation and related issues, but could not --in the midst of the
end of semester rush-- take the time to read them. This morning a piece
in the NEW YORK TIMES on my old alma mater (Stanford) caught my eye and
Trond: Urban "liberated areas" may not make much sense in a strict
military sense, e.g., in an urban guerrilla war conceived in terms of a
military strategy to seize power in the old Leninist sense, but once we shift
from such one-dimensional notions of war and resituate the notion within
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