Yeah, right, I thought the Tugabe report made the rounds a week ago.
Joanna
k hanly wrote:
Saturday, May. 08, 2004
-Original Message-
From: Dunn, Daniel, CTR, OSD-POLICY
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 10:11 PM
To: MLA POL ALL POLICY
Subject: FW: URGENT IT BULLETIN: Tugabe Report (FOUO)
What's new is that somebody seems to care. Somehow, this seems to be
turning out to be the final straw. It was about time. So, I understand
that it is not really new as does most of the left, but this is an
inadequate response. If the media is actually willing to report this
story, what good does
Carrol Cox wrote:
The following post on lbo-talk seems relevant to the current discussion
on pen-l.
John Gulick wrote:
Is any self-respecting US leftist truly _shocked and dismayed_ by the casual
violence visited upon Iraqi prisoners ? Inquiring minds want to know. Just
asking. Isn't it
soula avramidis wrote:
The talk about torture is diverting opinion from occupation.. typical
Israeli tactic create new facts on the grounds to make old ones go
away.. western public opinion is mesmerized by torture because
essentially western working classes are benefiting to varying degrees
from
good./joanna
soula avramidis wrote:
There is now an effort from many communist parties to denounce the
Iraqi communist party for collaborating with the US in the invasion.
It seems that their collaboration purposely or not with the US and the
CIA goes back to their vehement fight against the pan
There are no contradictions between the statements below.It's not saying
only the U.S. can do this. /Joanna
Chris Doss wrote:
The United States has the capability to inflict appalling destruction
while sustaining only minimal damage to itself. There is no regime it
could not terminate if it wanted
Possibly (and very funny), but the thing is, the profits still go to the US.
ravi wrote:
Devine, James wrote:
given that the US does even worse, how can I boycott US goods?
you cannot. US goods are all made elsewhere. ;-)
--ravi
.
Very true, I needed reminding./Joanna
Carrol Cox wrote:
joanna bujes wrote:
Possibly (and very funny), but the thing is, the profits still go to the US.
This is a common shorthand, but it is probably best to avoid it. The
US is not a profit center, and hence no profits go to the US as
such, any
Well, he was no Caligula, but he was a womanizer, drinker,
partier...Bush was no Caligula either. Course, when Augustine grew up,
he did take part in massacring the Manicheans (if memory serves) and
Bush is toting up some massacres of his own.
Joanna
Chris Doss wrote:
I have always thought that
Yes, in the Confessions.
Joanna
Carrol Cox wrote:
Doesn't Augustine say somewhere something like, Oh Lord, make me
chaste, but not too soon?
Carrol
Here words such
as strategy and policy are daily applied to the kneejerk reactions
of politicians and military commanders who think that brute force is the
only way to resolve difficult problems in a delicate situation.
Terry's losing it, dealing with inferior races is what he meant to say, not a
The coalition forces seem to be a mix: there are grunts working for
nothing and there are mercenaries working for $1000/day. Or that's the
figure I heard. When the fragging starts, it should be interesting.
Joanna
Devine, James wrote:
Chris,
you talked about Stalingrad in Iraq a little more than a
Like Balzac put it: Young whores make old nuns. Though I do loathe
it's representation of women, I do believe the theory applies to Bush.
Did for Augustine anyway.
Joanna
Louis Proyect wrote:
Do people really believe the story about the devout Bush? Some of the
incidents reported coincide with
Sabri Oncu wrote:
The flag's designer said that he received a call a few
months ago from his brother, asking him to submit a
proposal. The only guidelines, he said, were to
present Iraq as a Western country and to include
references to the past. He said his inspiration was
simple flags like those
Thanks for the article Louis, but the author gets a lot of things wrong:
1. This situation goes back at least a good twenty years, not ten.
2. The immiseration and temping of academic jobs is not the just the
result of budget pressures: tuition goes up, the stars are paid more
than ever, and the
They amply demonstrate what happens when you mix equal amounts of
incompetence, greed, and arrogance. It is too much of a compliment to
call it evil.
Joanna
Devine, James wrote:
Pentti Sadeniemi writes: The everyday tactical mistakes in the occupation are more than
matched by equally clumsy
What's good for the goose
Welcome to the age of the warlords.
Joanna
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
Iraqis Offer Bounty for US Officials:
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004_04_01_montages_archive.html#108319912301633438.
--
Yoshie
* Critical Montages: http://montages.blogspot.com/
* Bring Them Home
Chris Burford wrote:
Now in relation to Iraq the strategic dream of the Neo-Cons -
themselves defined as a group of the US intelligentsia by an unusual
and 'interesting' intellectual trajectory - was that within a new
century policed by overwhelming US hegemonic power, a whole Middle
East in
Dear Mitchel,
Thanks for forwarding your article: Big Science, the Fragmenting of
Work the LEft's Curious Notion of Progress. Since you say 70 other
people also showed an interest, I thought it might be worthwhile to
reply to the list as a whole.
There wasn't much in your article that I
So what was the reason for sacking her husband? Collective punishment?
Joanna
k hanly wrote:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/04/22/1082616268111.html?from=storyrhs
Last Sunday a newspaper in Seattle, Washington, published a rare photograph
of soldiers' coffins, each of them containing the
So here's a snippet that caught my eye from the company-wide mailer from
the CEO of the company which employs me.
So there is a step-by-step process we are going to get through
-- using reference architectures, systems that connect to Sun
by default, managed services, customer-ready systems and
???
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 04:31:43PM -0700, joanna bujes wrote:
So here's a snippet that caught my eye from the company-wide mailer from
the CEO of the company which employs me.
So there is a step-by-step process we are going to get through
-- using reference architectures, systems that connect to Sun
There's a short story by Chekhov called Peasants -- which will give
you an idea of what they did the rest of the time. Like nearly
everything Chekhov writes, it is an exceptionally good story.
Joanna
Chris Doss wrote:
Oh yeah. But there is little question as far as I know that the Russian
http
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/20/opinion/20COLE.html://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/20/opinion/20COLE.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/20/opinion/20COLE.html
April 20, 2004
OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR
America's Prisoners, American Rights
By DAVID COLE
WASHINGTON Today the Supreme
So let me get this straight...all these people that have been buying 1/2
million $$ condos/bungalows in the Bay area lately, have mortgages based
on variable rates? They expected interest rates to stay low forever? Was
it not possible to get a low fixed-rate mortgage? Or was it just about
Sabri,
You must go see a movie called Schindler's List. It's a piece of crap.
It purports to be about the Holocaust, which, as everyone knows, only
affected Jews. What it's really about is the contemporary world as
globalized for capital, and it's main message is You're lucky to have
a job. The
Sunni-Shiite Cooperation Grows, Worrying U.S. Officials
April 8, 2004
By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN
According to several militia members, many Shiite fighters
are streaming into Falluja to help Sunni insurgents defend
their city against a punishing Marine assault.
Some actual facts in here about the sequence of events in Falluja.
Joanna
Link to this Story : Opening The Gates Of Hell
http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20040408fname=mahajansid=1
In Iraq, these gates are
This sounds great. Thanks for the review.
Joanna
Louis Proyect wrote:
When I received an announcement from a Miramax publicist that started
as follows, In a world of adults who dont quite seem to know what
theyre doing, eight year-old Valentin (Rodrigo Noya) sets out on a
series of
Unsubcribing for a week while in NYC.
Michael? Can you please do that? I don't know how.
Thanks,
Joanna
Yeah, well I think the underlying complaint is that Zinn sold too many
books. I can understand that a scholar would be frustrated at the
fame/$$/independence that this book earned Zinn. But the scholar should
also understand that in educating and motivating people different kinds
of books are
It's interesting, establishment economics dismisses the labor theory of
value, but talk openly about taking away from the workers in order to
give to investors.
Joanna
Devine, James wrote:
there's also an article in BUSINESS WEEK on this subject, with a useful chart. If I
can get the time, I'll
Layoff day tomorrow, wish me luck.
Joanna
Mike Ballard wrote:
It's nice to see the commodification of patriotism
making headway.
Cheers,
Mike B)
=
The best and most beautiful things
in the world cannot be seen or
even touched. They must be
felt with the heart.
former I.W.W. member, Helen
I ordered four tins. Olive oil is good. Helping Palestinians is good.
Joanna
Sending you a tin can of olive oil from Jayyous to your door step
anywhere in the United States or Europe takes less than 4 weeks. By
buying from the farmers of Jayyous, the first to
(It's happening Reg, it's happening!!!)
Joanna
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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 00:42:41 -
Subject: million worker march
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please Join Us in a Million Worker March
The International Longshore and Warehouse Union, Local 10, recently
Chris, I think you won.
Joanna
Louis Proyect wrote:
Chris Doss wrote:
I say: It is unreliable because the country is lawless. Now, why would
the country be lawless. I wonder if it might have something to do with
bands of Islamoid gunmen running around invading adjoining areas of
Russia and
Michael Pollak wrote:
Mr Powell told the world on 5 February last year the administration had firsthand
descriptions of biological weapons factories on wheels and on rails capable of producing enough
anthrax or botulinum toxin
to kill thousands upon thousands of people. He showed highly
C'mon Chris, it's you who taught me that Moscow isn't Russia. Different
living standards, different access to technology, etc.
Joanna
Chris Doss wrote:
1) I don't know how the hell Tahoo is going to compete with Yandex.ru and Rambler.ru, which are entrenched in the Russian market and giant.
2)
Some experts see benefits being derived from outsourcing. Exporting
routinized jobs such as programming can lower costs for companies and
give them the cash to invest in higher-skilled, more innovative jobs in
the United States.
_
This is such a joke. I won't even comment about
wrote:
joanna bujes wrote:
More interesting is the thesis that outsourcing is profitable for
hi-tech companies. I wonder how they figure out that profit. The very
large hi tech company I work for has outsourced a number of projects to
India and China. I know first hand that the results of this off
Doug Henwood wrote:
Compared to what? It's hard to argue with its capacity to grow,
innovate, and produce cheaper commodities over the centuries - at a
high social and ecological cost, for sure, but I don't think you can
win the efficiency argument from the left. It has to be on other
grounds.
I
That's fucked. You have all the power and you're using it to humiliate
your students. Great.
Joanna
Craven, Jim wrote:
Tomorrow, when I go back to the classroom, as I have done on other
occasions, each of my classes will be told that during the course of
the term, there will be four key lectures
My apologies, I thought you did not tell the students that some of the
lectures were bullshit.
Joanna
Craven, Jim wrote:
That's fucked. You have all the power and you're using it to humiliate
your students. Great.
Joanna
Response: I can see from your previous comments ( So you're punishing
your
Certainly, I believe every word you say. His reaction to my
misunderstanding however spoke volumes too.
Joanna
MICHAEL YATES wrote:
I visited Jim Craven's classes (huge classes, and he has to teach a
lot of them to make ends meet) last December. The students were
curious and asked me good
ravi wrote:
i am not an expert on the matter, so this is just my opinion: i believe
the above effect is temporary. programming is not difficult and it is
well suited for outsourcing. those going through outsourcing disaster
will learn from their mistakes... already, i know of many fellow indians
ravi wrote:
joanna bujes wrote:
The truth is they don't have a clue on how to manage intellectual labor.
joanna, my friend, why is this not an elitist attitude? what is so
intellectual about programming? it could be, but it doesn't need to be,
and it seldom is. i.e., there are very neat
ravi wrote:
come on now. its not about your job against my job, and i am not trying
to defend indian programmers or some such identity group. if i do go
back, i hope i will be more empowered to participate in the real world,
rather than have to sit in a cube and write uninspiring software.
No,
Zizek has a life-long sinecure and subminimal teaching duties. If the
story is true, there is no excuse. On the other hand, if such is his
character, perhaps it is best that students get to know him through his
books rather than in person.
Joanna
paul phillips wrote:
While Michael is undoubtedly
War Rationale: Version 10.0
http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/10143
Here then, in Silicon Valley terms, is a review of the Bush administration's
year in Iraq:
Saddam Hussein poses an 'imminent threat' to the American people.
* Version 1.0 - Saddam Hussein is an imminent threat
*
Craven, Jim wrote:
In the case of the Reality shows, they are relatively cheap to
produce, focus on trappings of wealth (temporary) like being set in
exotic locales and big mansions, and of course utilize, celebrate,
preach, reward and reinforce: rat-race individualism, greed,
selfishness,
The Living, about the Dead
/by B. Michael, The Israeli Daily Yedioth Achronot
Translated from the Hebrew by Victoria Buch/
The whole nation is huddled up in the corner, like a little dog that
urinated on the carpet, waiting meekly for the cruel strike that will
come. Nobody has any doubt that it
soula avramidis wrote:
Zionist colonialism represents the ugliest face of modern imperialism,
far worse than apartheid south Africa. but in all it remains part and
parcel of the broader imperial agenda and its principal agent in the
middle east. killing yassin has two implications..
I got to the
Devine, James wrote:
Jews have also played roles that were banned by the dominant religion (as with
money-lending in medieval Europe), which is not exactly the same thing as being agents
of the ruling class. (Jewish money-lenders weren't all like the Fuggers; they lent to
the working classes,
Concerns Raised Over Consultants to Pension Funds
March 21, 2004
By MARY WILLIAMS WALSH
The Securities and Exchange Commission has begun an inquiry
into the practices of pension consultants, who serve as
gatekeepers for thousands of money managers.
Things get worse with Coke
Bottled tap water withdrawn after cancer scare
Felicity Lawrence, consumer affairs correspondent
Friday March 19 2004
The Guardian
First, Coca-Cola's new brand of pure bottled water, Dasani, was revealed earlier this month to be tap water taken from the mains. Then it
I remember Gore Vidal saying on some talk show, What we have in this
country is socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor. This was
bout 20 years ago.
Joanna
Devine, James wrote:
who first referred to socialism for the rich and free enterprise for
the poor and what is the actual quote?
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
Suppose that you are really interested in the subject of
revolutionary socialism. What questions about it do you think would
be worth asking in the United States today, when no one -- the least
of all, revolutionary socialists -- envisions any revolution
happening
Yeah, I know. This wouldn't be an individual project -- more like a
peace corps of the left.
j.
andie nachgeborenen wrote:
I tried that, lost my job, now I am a lawyer.
--- joanna bujes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
Suppose that you are really interested in the
subject
The main danger to SS is that they want to loot it. It's such a nice
pile of $$; why should the worker yahoos get it? In fact, they've been
looting it for years.
Joanna
Devine, James wrote:
the main danger to Social Security is not demographic. It's people like Greenspan and Bush. As Doug
Right before the 2000 election, I went to hear Nader speak at the Kaiser
auditorium in Oakland. The convention hall was packed with folks; I'd
say most of them under 40. There were roughly 5,000 people. Cornell West
introduced, Patty Smith sang (beautifully), and Nader spoke for over an
hour. He
OK. That's hillarious.
Joanna
ravi wrote:
Sabri Oncu wrote:
Of course, it is unsual for you westerners who forgot
the closeness touching one another brings out but I
don't blame you. It is just sad that you don't know
how to touch and kiss each other except when you have
sex.
the westerners
Jurriaan Bendien wrote:
Don't worry about that. Sabri is really talking about something different.
Sabri is a good guy anyhow. Sometimes he just overemphasises his need to be
Turkish, that is all.
That's because he is in exile.
Joanna
Btw he does have a song called: It's A Chemical
Reaction, That's All
Yes, the divine Cyd Charisse sings it in terrific movie called Silk
Stockings. The movie itself is a remake of Ninotchka --which proved
Garbo can't do comedy. Anyway, the only remake I can think of that's
better than the
Tom Walker wrote:
Joanna:
Why not simply say that human relationships are
bound by love. After all,
contracts are always conditional, whereas love is
not.
Dans les premires passions les femmes aiment l'amant, et dans les autres
elles aiment l'amour. -- Franois, duc de La Rochefoucauld
There's an old Sufi saying: The Devil is a pretty shoe. ...and yes,
I'd say we are in Hell.
On the other hand, poor teenager. When girls come into their womanhood,
they are all thumbs about expressing their new-found sexual
selves/feelings etc. They tend to exaggerate everything: the sexy walk,
The chief govt support in the US for mortgages (that I know of) is that
interest paid is tax deductible.
joanna
Chris Burford wrote:
Gordon Brown and the British government have been looking enviably at
the US mortgage market where long term fixed mortgages play a part in
a mixed economy.
Sabri Oncu wrote:
After all, every human relation is based on some sort
of a contract whether it is our relationship with our
lovers, children, parents, siblings, friends and the
like.
Just that most these (unsigned) contracts are
enforceable not by law but by love and we can always
opt out
David B. Shemano wrote:
You see a bogeyman called a corporation. You are fetishing the
corporation. I see tens, hundreds, thousands of contracts between
real people intended to actualize a real end.
So, when I, avoiding immiseration, get a job to work in a corporation, I
am entering in a
Say what you will, Putin is a smart guy.
Joanna
Eubulides wrote:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/FC12Ag01.html
Putin to expand strategic partnership with China
By Sergei Blagov
Mar 12, 2004
2/3 of US crops contaminated:
GM contamination rampant in US
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/5365FC37-1E08-4C17-9516-911EA47AEBC1.htm
I agree with Eugene. I didn't even pick up on the sharp tone. He was
argumentative, but his arguments were clear and straightforward, free of
obscenities and innuendo, and interesting. I'm beginning to be very
confused about who belongs on this list.
I'm grateful to Michael for trying to keep the
The fact that DMS was asked to leave, or left, other lists is not
relevant. The only thing that is relevant is his behavior on this list.
The only thing I noticed was that he was clear and interesting and
argued in a civil way.
Joanna
Louis Proyect wrote:
Eugene Coyle wrote:
I'm very
I'm sorry, but I don't understand the argument that higher prices are
the result of overaccumulation. What happens to supply/demand idea? This
is not a rhetorical I don't understand. Please explain,
Thanks,
Joanna
dmschanoes wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Devine, James [EMAIL
Agreed.
Joanna
dmschanoes wrote:
Really? I don't think so. I think it has nothing at all to do with
experience and/or capability, and everything to do with connections and
representing specific class interests. Revolutions, and reactions, have
little enough trouble creating leaders without
Carrol Cox wrote:
Most of them (unfortunately for us) are pretty damn competent,
thoughit's because of their connections that they get to exercise that
competence.
If this is the case, I have not seen it in thirty years in ANY place I
have worked. What I have seen is that the grunts do the work
Eubulides wrote:
But some economists point to those same federal forecasts to poke holes in
the argument that the key to job creation is more sophisticated education
and knowledge. Yes, the greatest increase is expected to be for registered
nurses (an increase of 623,000 jobs) and college and
Anybody know which currencies he invested in? Some other article said he
was out of $$ and into five other currencies
Joanna
Eubulides wrote:
Buffett: Bush Tax Cuts Favor Corporations, Wealthy
By Joe Ruff
Associated Press Writer
Saturday, March 6, 2004; 3:36 PM
OMAHA, Neb. -- Billionaire
That was wonderful. Thanks.
Joanna
paul phillips wrote:
Enjoy
For the 100th anniversity of Dr. Seuss
The Whos down in Whoville liked people a lot,
But the Grinch in the White House most certainly did not.
He didn't arrive there by the will of the Whos,
But stole the election that he
Yeah, these innocent Disney flicks will do it every time. I loathed Lion
King.
Joanna
Max B. Sawicky wrote:
I was in front of my PC with my daughter in the next
room watching Bambi. At one point she started screaming,
Kill Bambi kill!!
mbs
Just recently I sat with my ten year old and watched
quite a scam...
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/DA011746-AA4C-4804-81BF-009553BC.htm
Joanna
Al Jazeera poll, numbers to date:
Al Jazeera poll, to date:
Who stands to benefit from civil unrest in Iraq?
Neighbouring Arab country :
13%
Neighbouring non-Arab country :
3%
Israel and the US :
40%
Internal Iraqi groups :
19%
Combination of the above :
12%
Unsure :
13%
Number of pollers :
Hey Ravi,
Do you or Dyvia know how to make masala chai? The blends they sell are
really expensive and my guess
would be that it's basically black tea + spices. But which spices? and
how much?
Thanks,
Joanna
Chai message was obviously meant to go to ravi.
J.
Max B. Sawicky wrote:
. . . Evidently there is some psych lit
that says that seeing a story with an infant/mother death
would have a bad effect on the younger child. I have no
idea if this is so. You see worse stuff every night on
the news, so I'm skeptical.
I am too. I think children are much
Well, gosh darn it, he's right! The rich need more money and the poor
need more work and or work skills.
If you disagree, I've got a bumpersticker for you: black/red/white. It says
JOBS for the RICH
MONEY for the POOR
I made it up eight years ago as a non-so-subtle attempt at counter
propaganda.
He wrote a pretty funny radical chic type book on the meritocracy:
Bobos in Paradise. I'm actually surprised he's devolved into this.
Joanna
paul phillips wrote:
Jim, any idea who this Brooks is?
Paul
Devine, James wrote:
I wonder if Paul Krugman is embarrassed to appear on the same op-ed page
Mike Ballard wrote:
President Bush and Republican lawmakers distanced
themselves as well,
saying that much of the problem could be averted by
setting up private
savings accounts.
A ridiculous proposal which plays to the ignorance of
the working class about who actually produces the
wealth and
Good one! Justin ???
Joanna
Peter Hollings wrote:
OK, here's a comment: Since the trustees of the Social Security Trust Fund
are personally liable for the savings of the beneficiaries and Greenspan has
now put us on notice that further lending of trust funds to the US
Government is in jeopardy
Be vewy, vewy quietwe're hunting wabbits
j.
Michael Perelman wrote:
The funds are in a lock box -- at an undisclosed location -- where Cheney and Scalia
are hunting. relax. The adults are in charge.
On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 06:43:10PM -0500, Peter Hollings wrote:
OK, here's a
It's funny how a rational centrist (Krugman) can sound like a raving
socialist these days.
Joanna
Michael Pollak wrote:
URL: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/02/opinion/02KRUG.html
New York Times
March 2, 2004
Maestro of Chutzpah
By PAUL KRUGMAN
T he traditional definition of chutzpah says
Treasury Department Is Warning Publishers of the Perils of Criminal
Editing of the Enemy
February 28, 2004
By ADAM LIPTAK
Writers often grumble about the criminal things editors do
to their prose. The federal government has recently weighed
in on the same issue - literally.
It has warned
According to something I heard today on the radio, France is complicit
in ousting Aristide because it made the Haitians pay back 21 billion for
the fact that France had to wage war against their liberation efforts a
hundred years ago. Aristide was trying to get France to pay that money back.
I didn't think that what David wrote was abuse and character
assassination. Impassioned critique perhaps. Pointing out some very
obvious and noxious facts abut Mr. G
Joanna
Jurriaan Bendien wrote:
Well I think that substantiates your argument and my argument. I think David
Schanoes is
I agree with your critique of Marxism -- but as for the ratio of male
to female Marxists, I don't know that this is anything more than a
reflection of the general ratio of males to females in any
political/economic/historic discussion. For cultural reasons, women are
not encouraged or supported in
Juriaan wrote
..I cannot
assess the depth or profundity of AG's economic thinking, but the odds are
that the ruling classes do not permit a shallow thinker to become chairman.
unless he works hard to meet their needs. Frankly Juriaan, you surprise me. You, of all people, are perfectly
Jurriaan Bendien wrote:
Rather than sitting in on moral judgement about me, why don't you
explainthen how it is that the shit is able to rise to the top. What do
you know about Greenspan ?
The shit rises to the top because the game is not about innovation or
creativity or productivity...but about
Chris Burford wrote:
The intrusion of a massive advertisement for Coca Cola, is
counterbalanced later by an extraordinary image of an admonitory
statue of
Lenin, being carried through the air by a helicopter, reproving the
naive communist stalwart for having forgotten perhaps a deeper meaning
of
Car.os wrote:
As carrie Bradshaw must renounce tabagism
for romantic love's sake, and Xena renounce Gabrielle for the Greater
Good's, so Gibson's Christ must willingly embrace the most senseless
torture in order to redeem Mankind (remember, by the way, that there
were some very popular early
As opposed to the old policy of no class war?
I don't know. Actually, I think it was just a stupid move.
I mean, why say anything like this before the election?
Joanna
Eugene Coyle wrote:
Wasn't Greenspan's little talk about cutting taxes for the rich and
cutting Social Security pretty close to
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Israeli firm awarded oil tender in Iraq
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/14002292-509C
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