[PEN-L:362] Shell Game: IMF vote next week. (fwd)

1998-07-29 Thread michael
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RE: IMF vote

1998-04-28 Thread boddhisatva
C. Henwood, By no means am I defending the IMF as such, but the IMF, while trying set limits and rules for internal investment does what it does to encourage market-oriented investment (including foreign investment of course). The argument, therefore has to be

RE: IMF vote

1998-04-27 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nathan Newman Sent: Friday, April 24, 1998 6:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IMF vote -Original Message- From: Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: IMF vote

1998-04-27 Thread Nathan Newman
-Original Message- From: Max B. Sawicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] A no vote and even a call to dismantle the IMF need not be taken all that literally. Assuming sufficient flexibility on the part of the naysayers, it could be the only way to force the

RE: IMF vote

1998-04-27 Thread Max B. Sawicky
At 03:13 p.m. 4/26/98 -0400, Max wrote: Liberals don't get excited about investment. According to the current [May 4] issue of BUSINESS WEEK, there's a new wing of the [US] Democratic Party that's very excited by investment, led by Barry Bluestone, Bennet Harrison, James K. Galbraith, and

RE: IMF vote

1998-04-27 Thread Max B. Sawicky
Liberals don't get excited about investment. That's for the Clintonoids. I suspect my folks will find an traditional Keynesianism perfectly appropriate. The IMF is a pro-austerity leg-breaker for bankers, anti-public sector, anti-democratic, etc. No? Everyone knows the

Re: IMF vote

1998-04-26 Thread Doug Henwood
Rosser Jr, John Barkley wrote: So, what's your take on the House of Representatives apparently not voting the "emergency" $18 million? (Boddhi, you didn't call that one; the House Republicans are NOT backing the IMF). Is this just grandstanding for the yokels because the "crisis is over"

Re: IMF vote II

1998-04-26 Thread valis
Quoth Doug: [A]s Trent Lott (one of three ex-cheerleaders in the Senate, apropos de rien) said a couple of weeks ago - all you need to know about the IMF is that it's run by a French socialist. And all we need to know about you, Trent, is that you're from

RE: IMF vote

1998-04-26 Thread Max B. Sawicky
Max, for the ADA I'd spin it by saying that the IMF deliberately depresses investment in countries desperately in need of higher levels of investment. In Asia, the only region of the "Third World" to show gains in income relative to the First over the last several decades, they're forcing

RE: IMF vote

1998-04-26 Thread Max B. Sawicky
Max B. Sawicky wrote: You are putting an ideological overlay on this vote which is probably not held by the ones voting. The vote was one part political -- let's give Clinton a win after kicking his ass on Fast Track -- and one part a fear of disaster, since Rubin and Summers give their

RE: IMF vote

1998-04-26 Thread James Devine
At 03:13 p.m. 4/26/98 -0400, Max wrote: Liberals don't get excited about investment. According to the current [May 4] issue of BUSINESS WEEK, there's a new wing of the [US] Democratic Party that's very excited by investment, led by Barry Bluestone, Bennet Harrison, James K. Galbraith, and

RE: IMF vote

1998-04-26 Thread Doug Henwood
Max B. Sawicky wrote: Max, for the ADA I'd spin it by saying that the IMF deliberately depresses investment in countries desperately in need of higher levels of investment. In Asia, the only region of the "Third World" to show gains in income relative to the First over the last several

RE: IMF vote

1998-04-26 Thread Doug Henwood
Max B. Sawicky wrote: You are putting an ideological overlay on this vote which is probably not held by the ones voting. The vote was one part political -- let's give Clinton a win after kicking his ass on Fast Track -- and one part a fear of disaster, since Rubin and Summers give their end of

RE: IMF vote

1998-04-26 Thread Doug Henwood
Max B. Sawicky wrote: When we roll over, we roll over big time. You have inspired me to present a resolution on the IMF at the upcoming ADA convention. Max, for the ADA I'd spin it by saying that the IMF deliberately depresses investment in countries desperately in need of higher levels of

RE: IMF vote

1998-04-26 Thread Max B. Sawicky
Interesting tally on the IMF funding vote in the House, from Robert Weissman of Multinational Monitor: AYES NOES PRES/NV REPUBLICAN 22 193 11 DEMOCRATIC164 28 13 INDEPENDENT 1 TOTALS186 222 24

Re: IMF vote

1998-04-25 Thread Doug Henwood
Nathan Newman wrote: Marx did not like Bismarck but he supported centralization of the German state, since that was preferable to the competition of small little states. Just as Marx could attack Bismarck's actions while supporting a more centralized state, it is perfectly consistent for left

Re: IMF vote

1998-04-25 Thread boddhisatva
To whom..., I think the Republicans are fine with the IMF, but they have to get enough assurances that the Fund will do their bidding before they vote for it and cheese off their Know-Nothing constituents. I doubt there is much Buchanan anti-free-trade sentiment

Re: IMF vote

1998-04-25 Thread Paul Zarembka
On Fri, 24 Apr 1998, Nathan Newman wrote: it is perfectly consistent for left activists to condemn the IMF's anti-labor policies while defending the existence of it as an institution of centralized global credit. --Nathan Newman Why should we want to defend the existence of a

Re: IMF vote

1998-04-25 Thread boddhisatva
Doug, To say that the IMF has killed millions is over-wrought. The IMF is at most a cog in a machine operated by people who never cared how many they ran over. Obviously there doesn't have to be any international lending agency and then developing countries could

Re: IMF vote

1998-04-24 Thread Nathan Newman
-Original Message- From: Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting tally on the IMF funding vote in the House, from Robert Weissman of Multinational Monitor: -cut - The Dems are the party of the IMF, which isn't surprising, since it was founded