Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: FW: LAT - China, Mexico: Same DepressingTale on Labor Rights

2000-05-17 Thread Jim Devine
this is not really a choice if you run a country that is dominated by debt service. If you have no choice, than the AGOA is a clear, clear winner: you have the structural adjustment program anyway, and better to have it with the opportunity to export than to have it with one's exports

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: FW: LAT - China, Mexico: Same DepressingTale on Labor Rights

2000-05-17 Thread Brad De Long
If one really wants the world to improve, one has to make an effort to _change_ the balance of power. That involves _organizing_ people to counteract the powers that be. It does not mean that we say "oh, there's only one choice: a bogus 'free trade' bill that forces African countries to toe

Re: Re: FW: LAT - China, Mexico: Same DepressingTale on Labor Rights

2000-05-16 Thread Brad De Long
Very nice article, Max. Brad tended to write about the Africa bill as if it were choice between helping Africa or helping the United States. In fact, as the article from the Progressive showed, the effect of the bill would be to transform both Africa and United States to be more to the liking

Re: Re: Re: FW: LAT - China, Mexico: Same DepressingTale on Labor Rights

2000-05-16 Thread Michael Perelman
Brad, we're arguing at cross purposes. If the bill with were merely lower tariffs, you would be correct. If the bill is going to be used to impose neoliberal policies, then I would strenuously oppose it. I suspect you would also. What was the problem with Jesse Jackson's bill? Brad De Long

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: FW: LAT - China, Mexico: Same DepressingTale on Labor Rights

2000-05-16 Thread Jim Devine
At 02:39 PM 05/16/2000 -0700, you wrote: What was the problem with Jesse Jackson's bill? No problem with Jesse Jackson's bill--save that 218 representatives wouldn't vote for it. so might makes right? Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://liberalarts.lmu.edu/~JDevine

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: FW: LAT - China, Mexico: Same DepressingTale on Labor Rights

2000-05-16 Thread Jim Devine
At 02:38 PM 05/16/2000 -0700, you wrote: Brad, we're arguing at cross purposes. If the bill with were merely lower tariffs, you would be correct. If the bill is going to be used to impose neoliberal policies, then I would strenuously oppose it. Brad writes: Shoddy argument. As written, the

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: FW: LAT - China, Mexico: Same DepressingTale on Labor Rights

2000-05-16 Thread Brad De Long
At 02:39 PM 05/16/2000 -0700, you wrote: What was the problem with Jesse Jackson's bill? No problem with Jesse Jackson's bill--save that 218 representatives wouldn't vote for it. so might makes right? Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://liberalarts.lmu.edu/~JDevine Say rather that

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: FW: LAT - China, Mexico: Same DepressingTale on Labor Rights

2000-05-16 Thread Brad De Long
At 02:38 PM 05/16/2000 -0700, you wrote: Brad, we're arguing at cross purposes. If the bill with were merely lower tariffs, you would be correct. If the bill is going to be used to impose neoliberal policies, then I would strenuously oppose it. Brad writes: Shoddy argument. As written, the