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2001-02-01 Thread Brad DeLong
2) Did not George Kennan in his original anonymous article on containment raise the possibility of an eventual evolution of the Soviet system as a response? IIRC, yes. And that was one reason that the policy was originally supposed to be one of "containment" and not of "confrontation."

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2001-02-01 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
The funny thing is that the USSR did indeed surpass the US in all of those, but Barkley Rosser -Original Message- From: Brad DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, February 01, 2001 10:59 AM Subject: [PEN-L:7647] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Korean news

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2001-01-31 Thread Justin Schwartz
Sure, the CIA estimates were more or less OK, if wrong, given what was known. Although the perestroichiki, especially Aganbegyan and Zaslavsakaya in Siberia, knew better earlier. But my point was just that no one expected collapse, including the CIA; so no one expected total and overwhelming

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2001-01-29 Thread Justin Schwartz
Brad, I have thought more about this stuff than you ever will, and know more about it that you can imagine. Tito was not "allowed" to develop by the US in 1948; the Yugosolavs were supposed to be handed over to Stalin under the terms of Yalta, but made clear that they would not go,a nd that

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2001-01-29 Thread Michael Perelman
Again, the same sorts of accusations about who has done the most/best thinking. Cheryl Payer, in her book on the World Bank, does a good job of the showing that the U.S. thought that the success of Yugoslavia would undermine Stalin, and so it attempted to promote worker self-management in

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2001-01-29 Thread Brad DeLong
Again, the same sorts of accusations about who has done the most/best thinking. Cheryl Payer, in her book on the World Bank, does a good job of the showing that the U.S. thought that the success of Yugoslavia would undermine Stalin, and so it attempted to promote worker self-management in

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2001-01-29 Thread Justin Schwartz
Sure, or anyway, maybe, but thsi was after Tito had made it clear that he was not going to go quietly into that good night, as originally agreed by Staklin and Churchill. --jks Again, the same sorts of accusations about who has done the most/best thinking. Cheryl Payer, in her book on the

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2001-01-29 Thread Justin Schwartz
Brad, you need to learn to read. Apparently being a big shot at Berkeley doesn't guarantee that you can can. I never said what you attribute to me. I didn't comment on the wisdom or lack of of LBJ's decision. I did say that that the evidence Brad himself cited shwos is that Brezhnev asked the