Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: raising min wage/Socioeconomic Democracy

2002-09-19 Thread joanna bujes
At 03:32 PM 09/18/2002 -0400, you wrote: More obscene than the polarization of wealth is the expropriation of the resources of the earth and the resources of humanity as the private property and exclusive concerns of the few. Joanna Excuse, but what *is* the polarization of wealth but the

raising min wage

2002-09-18 Thread Forstater, Mathew
I'm trying to collect a list of arguments for raising the minimum wage, especially those that apply in 'developing' nation contexts. Fairness, equity, social justice arguments and/or efficiency/economic/macro arguments are all fine. Do people know of any good articles, books, websites that

Re: raising min wage

2002-09-18 Thread Lisa Stolarski
How about this. Marx is right about many things and this is one of them: as the rich get richer and fewer in number and the poor get poorer and constitute almost everybody, what you have is a recipe for extreme social unrest. Moral and humanitarian arguments aside, this situation is

Re: Re: raising min wage/Socioeconomic Democracy

2002-09-18 Thread GeorgeCSDS
In a message dated 9/18/02 11:36:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about this. Marx is right about many things and this is one of them: as the rich get richer and fewer in number and the poor get poorer and constitute almost everybody, what you have is a recipe for extreme social unrest.

Re: raising min wage

2002-09-18 Thread Gil Skillman
Mat, for some sources, check out: Zavodny, Madeline, Why Minimum Wage Hikes May Not Reduce Employment, _Economic Review_, Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, 1998, 83(2), pp. 18-28. Card and Krueger, _Myth and Measurement_ 1995 (reporting empirical studies in which they find that raising

Re: Re: Re: raising min wage/Socioeconomic Democracy

2002-09-18 Thread joanna bujes
At 01:52 PM 09/18/2002 -0400, you wrote: You may have seen this before but one needn't be a Marxist to see clearly that what you say is certainly so. Therefore I repeat my announcement about Socioeconomic Democracy and the democratic and peaceful reduction of the obscene -- and harmful --

Re: Re: Re: Re: raising min wage/Socioeconomic Democracy

2002-09-18 Thread GeorgeCSDS
In a message dated 9/18/02 12:11:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 01:52 PM 09/18/2002 -0400, you wrote: You may have seen this before but one needn't be a Marxist to see clearly that what you say is certainly so. Therefore I repeat my announcement about Socioeconomic Democracy and the

RE: Re: raising min wage

2002-09-18 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30345] Re: raising min wage Social disorder may encourage the rise of a socialist movement and/or a welfare state what Lisa calls concessions), but it also may involve fascist-type movements, not just among those in corporate or state power, but among the masses. In the late

Re: raising min wage

2002-09-18 Thread Michael Perelman
In my Pathology book, I tried to make the case that higher wages in general encourage investment in new labor-saving technology. Forstater, Mathew wrote: I'm trying to collect a list of arguments for raising the minimum wage, especially those that apply in 'developing' nation contexts.