Re: reply to Jim Devine and Thiago on Chomsky

2002-12-04 Thread Sabri Oncu
The anti-globalization movement has leaders? Ian No. I am against leaders. By the way, who is this Lee Kuan Yew? Sabri

Re: Re: reply to Jim Devine and Thiago on Chomsky

2002-12-04 Thread ken hanly
- Original Message - From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PEN-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:50 AM Subject: [PEN-L:32753] Re: reply to Jim Devine and Thiago on Chomsky The anti-globalization movement has leaders? Ian No. I am against leaders. By the

Re: Re: reply to Jim Devine and Thiago on Chomsky

2002-12-04 Thread ken hanly
Sorry about the blank message. Lee Kuan Yew was prime minister of Singapore from 1959-1990. Although Singapore did very well in economic terms during his term of office he was quite authoritarian argued against liberal principles such as habeas corpus etc. He could probably get a job as legal

reply to Jim Devine and Thiago on Chomsky

2002-12-03 Thread Steve Diamond
Jim, it is certainly, I will agree, Chomsky's obsession to use an apparently objective critique of the western media to make his political arguments, but to ignore the politics behind this approach is to reward form over substance. In your parenthetical ending you come dangerously close to a

Re: reply to Jim Devine and Thiago on Chomsky

2002-12-03 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Steve Diamond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thiago suggested that noone on the left supports regimes (a term I usually apply to states controlled by groups that gained that position without a democratic election, as opposed to governments which have some claim to

Re: reply to Jim Devine and Thiago on Chomsky

2002-12-03 Thread topp8564
On 4/12/2002 1:35 PM, Steve Diamond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thiago suggested that noone on the left supports regimes (a term I usually apply to states controlled by groups that gained that position without a democratic election, as opposed to governments which have some claim to

Re: reply to Jim Devine and Thiago on Chomsky

2002-12-03 Thread andie nachgeborenen
Steve Diamond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, it is certainly, I will agree, Chomsky's obsession to use an apparentlyobjective critique of the "western media" to make his political arguments, This is perverse, Steve. When C has a political point to make, he makes it directly. Why not take him at