Labor Competition and the New York Draft Riots of 1863

2002-12-23 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Labor Competition and the New York Draft Riots of 1863 By ALBON P. MAN, JR. Journal of Negro History, Vol. XXXVI, No. 4, October 1951 The New York draft riots of July, 1863, had their origin largely in a fear of black labor competition which possessed the city's, Irish unskilled workers. Upon

The Church and the New York Draft Riots of 1863

2002-12-23 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
The Church and the New York Draft Riots of 1863 By ALBON P. MAN, JR. JULY 1863 was a momentous month in the War between the States. At Gettysburg Union forces repulsed Lee's thrust into Pennsylvania, while Vicksburg, Confederate stronghold on the Mississippi, finally fell to Grant's long

RE: the significance of global riots

2001-07-23 Thread Max Sawicky
protestors after a protest against the police shooting a black man a few days ago who had an imitation gun on him as a cigarette lighter. Windows were smashed. The jacquerie at the time of the French revolution, going back to the peasant uprisings in mediaeval France. The Gordon riots in 18th century

Re: RE: the significance of global riots

2001-07-23 Thread Jim Devine
. Gang assaults on police in broad daylight, with media coverage, are more interesting than oh, 100,000 people marching peacefully. I don't know enough about the riots in Genoa, but I wonder how much of the black block anarchist behavior reflects the macho belief that being tough and/or violent

Re: the significance of global riots

2001-07-23 Thread Nathan Newman
of power. Nathan Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nathannewman.org - Original Message - From: Max Sawicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 11:11 AM Subject: [PEN-L:15459] RE: the significance of global riots If 'everybody' is rioting

Re: Re: the significance of global riots

2001-07-23 Thread Jim Devine
At 11:42 AM 7/23/01 -0400, you wrote: the nonviolent wing of the protest movement will have to, out of self-defense, isolate the non-violent wing. I know that the above is a typo, but it's true that the left has been very good at isolating itself. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: the significance of global riots

2001-07-23 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Nathan writes: Also note the way the bloody violent assault on the Genoa Social Forum gets mushed into the story. Without the countervailing pictures of the protester assaulting the cop, the pictures of the attack and blood at the non-violent Social Forum would incite far more massive

Re: the significance of global riots

2001-07-23 Thread Nathan Newman
- Original Message - From: Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] This may be unfair and illegal, but we aren't living in a fair and legal world on those terms, so the nonviolent wing of the protest movement will have to, out of self-defense, isolate the non-violent wing. -How do you plan on

Re: Re: the significance of global riots

2001-07-23 Thread Jim Devine
what about also politically isolating the violent ones, by criticizing their tactics, strategies, and goals in a principled way? At 12:24 PM 7/23/01 -0400, you wrote: -How do you plan on doing the isolating? Nathan writes: That depends on the collective decision of a movement organizing a

Re: Re: Re: the significance of global riots

2001-07-23 Thread Nathan Newman
- Original Message - From: Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] what about also politically isolating the violent ones, by criticizing their tactics, strategies, and goals in a principled way? That would have to precede any physical isolation- the responsibility on the broader movement is to

Re: the significance of global riots

2001-07-23 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
-How do you plan on doing the isolating? That depends on the collective decision of a movement organizing a protest. Simply separating away from the most violent protesters denies them protection in the mass of non-violent protesters. They can then try to take on the cops by themselves, but

Re: Re: the significance of global riots

2001-07-23 Thread Jim Devine
At 01:43 PM 7/23/01 -0400, you wrote: At 9:59 AM -0700 7/23/01, Jim Devine wrote: what about also politically isolating the violent ones, by criticizing their tactics, strategies, and goals in a principled way? Yoshie writes: We can certainly criticize them, though there isn't much to say

the significance of global riots

2001-07-22 Thread Mr. Rakesh Narpat Bhandari
Max, does the EPI include this 'betrayal' in its criticism of NAFTA or is this side letter exactly the kind of fair trade for which EPI, Sweeney and you are fighting? ___ From today's NYT: Rodolfo Perdomo Bueno, who operates a mill company called Grupo Perno, said that despite their

RE: the significance of global riots

2001-07-22 Thread Max Sawicky
Why not read it and find out for yourself instead of demolishing the straw men of your imagination. mbs Max, does the EPI include this 'betrayal' in its criticism of NAFTA or is this side letter exactly the kind of fair trade for which EPI, Sweeney and you are fighting? ___ From

the significance of global riots

2001-07-22 Thread Mr. Rakesh Narpat Bhandari
Max Sawicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Why not read it and find out for yourself instead of demolishing the straw men of your imagination. Yes, yes Max, my damn imagination: I hallucinate (as you put it) that Lind is a nativist and a right winger (by the way, there are interesting things to

Re: the significance of global riots

2001-07-22 Thread Nathan Newman
: Mr. Rakesh Narpat Bhandari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 1:50 PM Subject: [PEN-L:15446] the significance of global riots Max, does the EPI include this 'betrayal' in its criticism of NAFTA or is this side letter exactly the kind of fair trade for which EPI

RE: the significance of global riots

2001-07-22 Thread Max Sawicky
Max Sawicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Why not read it and find out for yourself instead of demolishing the straw men of your imagination. Yes, yes Max, my damn imagination: I hallucinate (as you put it) that Lind is a nativist and a right winger . . . See? There you go. Hardly one

the significance of global riots

2001-07-21 Thread Chris Burford
lighter. Windows were smashed. The jacquerie at the time of the French revolution, going back to the peasant uprisings in mediaeval France. The Gordon riots in 18th century London. VViolent crowd behaviour may be stereotyped as mindless but it plays a social role. It challenges the existing

the significance of global riots

2001-07-21 Thread Seth Sandronsky
. The bottom line? The credibility of the suits in the suites is determined in large part by the activity or passivity of the working class in the streets. Seth Sandronsky the significance of global riots by Chris Burford 21 July 2001 07:59 UTC Thread Index The protestors are of course much

Re: the significance of global riots

2001-07-21 Thread Mr. Rakesh Narpat Bhandari
I tried to unsubscribe; perhaps Michael P will help me. Erased all the messages. Just checked through the archive. As to whether Lind's view of the job displacing and welfare using effects of the immigration of poor, uneducated Mexicans can be accurately characterized as demagogic racist

EU must curb riots

2001-07-13 Thread Chris Burford
The cost is being factored in: Senior European Union ministers are meeting to discuss ways to curb riots that have disrupted international conferences recently. Friday's special session of interior ministers from the 15 member states was called in the wake of last month's rioting at the EU

Farm riots in China

2000-08-30 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
of China's farmers, their heavy tax burden and the fact that rural incomes in China - after years of increases - have fallen for four years in a row. Uprisings and riots are now common in China's cities and countryside alike as workers and farmers come face to face with a slowing economy

Re: riots?

1998-05-01 Thread jf noonan
On Fri, 1 May 1998, Doug Henwood wrote: CNBC just ran a rather fevered but short report about May Day worker "riots" in Europe and elsewhere. What's going on? Doug According to the BBC report I heard at 8:00 this morning there were riots in Liepzig when 6000 "leftists&q

Re: racist riots

1994-10-28 Thread MYMEG
I was referring to what you euphemistically refer to as the civil disorders which followed the acquital of the the police officers who, in my view, unjustifiably and unlawfully beat Rodney King. Spontaneous expressions of racism, while by no means to be condoned, are, again in my view, less