[PEN-L:824] Re: re striking UC TAs

1998-11-03 Thread Ajit Sinha
At 05:57 2/11/98 -0600, valis wrote: Ajit brought up the interesting question of whether foreign grad students will get the short straw if/when TAs gain legal employee status after the coming militancy. The campus scene would surely be impoverished, socially as well as intellectually, if foreign

[PEN-L:826] Re: Valis on Cockburn

1998-11-03 Thread Eric B. Ross ISS
How to reply to a man who thinks that, if you check out a person on his/her institution's web site (in my case, the Institute of Social Studies in The Hague), you know everything you need to know to categorise them, let alone insult them? Frankly, Valis has a real problem. I didn't end up

[PEN-L:828] Unionized TAs and foreign admissions; the example of SUNY

1998-11-03 Thread zarembka
I don't understand the question at all. Here at SUNY TAs have now been unionized for more than five years and foreign students get TA positions just as frequently as they always have. I'm Director of Graduate Studies for Economics and there have not been any memos coming going changing anything

[PEN-L:827] RE: Query: Blair and proportional rep.

1998-11-03 Thread Aditya Chakrabortty
Gar, the article below from the Guardian should provide an answer. But note the end-papargraph, which I took from another Guardian report. It is more than likely that Britain will wait 8 yrs before having a referendum on PR. As you probably already know we will be using PR in elections for

[PEN-L:831] family

1998-11-03 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Eisenscher wrote: We have allowed the Right to appropriate this language because we failed to contest in this corner of the ideological arena. I'm not sure about this. I think once you start talking about "family" you're on the right's ideological terrain. Sort of like the "progressive"

[PEN-L:832] UAW and Knowledge Workers/TAs

1998-11-03 Thread Nathan Newman
-Original Message- From: Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The UAW wants to organize "knowledge workers." That's why they absorbed the National Writers Union, why they represent the staff at the Village Voice, Barnard College, and, increasingly grad

[PEN-L:833] Re: Re: Re: re striking UC TAs II

1998-11-03 Thread jf noonan
On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Doug Henwood wrote: valis wrote: No, I hadn't, but thanx, though I still don't understand how the UAW and the grad unions can even relate as being in the same fight. The UAW wants to organize "knowledge workers." That's why they absorbed the National Writers Union,

[PEN-L:835] Re: re striking UC TAs IV

1998-11-03 Thread valis
No, I hadn't, but thanx, though I still don't understand how the UAW and the grad unions can even relate as being in the same fight. The UAW wants to organize "knowledge workers." That's why they absorbed the National Writers Union, why they represent the staff at the Village Voice,

[PEN-L:836] Re: Zulu and Sioux

1998-11-03 Thread Louis Proyect
(This is a private communication from Patrick Bond that he agreed to share publicly with some minor editing.) Hi Louis, just a few minor corrections... He is also the co-author of "Township Struggles". editor, merely, of "Township Politics" (but author of Uneven Zimbabwe, which I think

[PEN-L:837] Re: family II

1998-11-03 Thread valis
Quoth Jim D, in part: So instead of saying "we're in favor of the family" and then redefining the "family" as any set of two or more individuals who live together (or whatever), the point is that we're in favor of helping and protecting children, providing health care to everyone (whether

[PEN-L:838] Re: RE: Query: Blair and proportional rep.

1998-11-03 Thread Gar Lipow
Thanks. So it is a diluted form of PR to be voted on eight years from now -- maybe. (If Blair is established enough by then he may renege. If the Tories throw him out in the meantime (eight years is a hell of a long time in politics), no referendum.) Aditya Chakrabortty wrote: Gar, the

[PEN-L:842] Re: RE: Re: family II

1998-11-03 Thread Jim Devine
Max writes: ... it's not simply about economic provision, but about the values one would impart to children and the ethic of responsibility (both individual and communal). OK... In a less positive vein, it's implicitly about breeding for the nation. I'm confused. It sounds as if you're

[PEN-L:843] Re: Reuther story II

1998-11-03 Thread valis
Jim D rebuts: Valis writes: ... the day Walter Reuther said "Let's see them buy your cars!" he made more of an impression on himself than on his CEO interlocutor. as far as I can tell, Reuther Ford never talked in this way. It's an apocryphal story. Them's the best kind, Jim. Ask any

[PEN-L:830] Re: Re: re striking UC TAs II

1998-11-03 Thread Doug Henwood
valis wrote: No, I hadn't, but thanx, though I still don't understand how the UAW and the grad unions can even relate as being in the same fight. The UAW wants to organize "knowledge workers." That's why they absorbed the National Writers Union, why they represent the staff at the Village

[PEN-L:840] RE: Re: family II

1998-11-03 Thread Max Sawicky
Quoth Jim D, in part: So instead of saying "we're in favor of the family" and then redefining the "family" as any set of two or more individuals who live together (or whatever), the point is that we're in favor of helping and protecting children, providing health care to everyone

[PEN-L:834] Re: family

1998-11-03 Thread Jim Devine
Michael Eisenscher wrote: We have allowed the Right to appropriate this language because we failed to contest in this corner of the ideological arena. Doug writes: I'm not sure about this. I think once you start talking about "family" you're on the right's ideological terrain. Sort of like the

[PEN-L:846] Re: Re: query

1998-11-03 Thread Jim Devine
I wrote: Does anyone on this list know of research indicating that the percentage of workers employed in the "primary sectors" of good jobs and relative job security has been shrinking relative to the total? Writing from Bolivia, Tom Kruse asks the appropriate question: In what country? I was

[PEN-L:848] Re: Valis on Cockburn III

1998-11-03 Thread valis
After about 10 days Comrade Ross of ISS thinks to respond: How to reply to a man who thinks that, if you check out a person on his/her institution's web site (in my case, the Institute of Social Studies in The Hague), you know everything you need to know to categorise them, let alone

[PEN-L:849] Re: Valis on Cockburn III

1998-11-03 Thread Eric B. Ross ISS
This is hardly worth it. First, I get insulted for being a "newcomer." This, simply because, after listening for so long to what is too often just the talking-shop of a very few, I chose to make a comment or two. The reaction from valis is hardly hospitable or democratic, so I can see now

[PEN-L:841] Re: Zulu and Sioux

1998-11-03 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley
I would note in the context of this discusssion the argument made by Thomas Pynchon in his _Gravity's Rainbow_ that the slaughter of Hereros in Deutsche Sudwestafrika in the early part of the twentieth century was a dry run for the Nazi Holocaust a few years later. Barkley Rosser On Tue,

[PEN-L:829] BLS Daily Report

1998-11-03 Thread Richardson_D
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- =_NextPart_000_01BE0739.6F1E2FA0 BLS DAILY REPORT, MONDAY, NOVEMBER 2, 1998 Despite an early autumn of bad news, with panic spreading across emerging

[PEN-L:845] RE: Re: RE: Re: family II

1998-11-03 Thread Max Sawicky
In a less positive vein, it's implicitly about breeding for the nation. I'm confused. It sounds as if you're advocating nationalist eugenics. Or are saying that the new right is advocating that? I'm not advocating breeding in general, though I would seriously consider all offers. What

[PEN-L:844] Re: query

1998-11-03 Thread Thomas Kruse
At 16:08 2/11/98 -0800, you wrote: Does anyone on this list know of research indicating that the percentage of workers employed in the "primary sectors" of good jobs and relative job security has been shrinking relative to the total? In what country? Tom Tom Kruse / Casilla 5812 / Cochabamba,

[PEN-L:851] Re: family/religion/economics IV

1998-11-03 Thread valis
Quoth Rev. Tom W, in part: Hands up all those who think it's "the state"? Here's my speculation about why the right has such success. It's not that they "appropriate" any language. It's that they share and identify with a mythic version of the state that is deeply engrained in the culture.

[PEN-L:852] Re: family/religion/economics IV

1998-11-03 Thread Tom Walker
While you're at it, Rev. Tom, what's your take on Jacob and Esau? You get a CD of Mein Kampf for a quick answer. The smooth new mode of production (animal husbandry) supplanting the hairy old one (hunting)? There must have been something stronger than savory mixed in with old Isaac's goat meat.

[PEN-L:858] basic question on Min Wage

1998-11-03 Thread DOUG ORR
I was recently confronted with the most basic question concerning the minimum wage, and I realized I did not have a precise answer. Who exactly is covered by the federal minimum wage? Or more easily, who is exempted? What about farm workers? Waiters? Thanks, Doug Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PEN-L:861] Re: Re: basic question on Min Wage

1998-11-03 Thread Robert Saute, CUNY Grad Center
Friends, According to Card Krueger _Myth Measurement: The New Economics of the Minimum Wage_ (1995, pg. 238) 87.7% of workers nation-wide were covered by the Fair Labor Standards Act which mandates minimum wages. My notes say that percentage was in 1998, obviously wrong. The correct

[PEN-L:850] RE: family/religion/economics

1998-11-03 Thread Tom Walker
All this talk about "appropriating language" makes me quesy. What is this talk? Some kind of politically correct focus group grope? My almost-five year old has a video out from the library about wheat (extremely well done video series, by the way) and in the video they give a short recap of the

[PEN-L:853] RE: Re: Valis on Cockburn III

1998-11-03 Thread Max Sawicky
servants to awaken to the larger fray. Aside from my gross location in space nobody knows anything solid about me; you should be proud that You're wrong, valis. We here in "Washington," that place upon which you wished the Ebola virus, have a full dossier on you. For instance, we know that

[PEN-L:854] Re: family/religion/economics V

1998-11-03 Thread valis
While you're at it, Rev. Tom, what's your take on Jacob and Esau? You get a CD of Mein Kampf for a quick answer. The smooth new mode of production (animal husbandry) supplanting the hairy old one (hunting)? There must have been something stronger than savory mixed in with old Isaac's goat

[PEN-L:847] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: family II

1998-11-03 Thread Jim Devine
Max What I had in mind was natalism, a la France, hardly eugenics. Still, natalism is obnoxious, since it is supposed to build up the "native" population. France did it to build up their army, I believe. This would help them fight the "Huns" and Algerians. I also believe that natalism -- the

[PEN-L:857] Re: RE: family/religion/economics

1998-11-03 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley
The really serious version of the Joseph story is the novel by Thomas Mann, _Joseph and his Brothers_. The usual literary pooh-bahs like to say that _The Magic Mountain_ is Mann's greatest novel, but it is not. J his B is. Barkley Rosser On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 12:38:41 -0800 Tom Walker

[PEN-L:859] RE: family/religion/economics

1998-11-03 Thread Tom Walker
Barkley Rosser wrote, The really serious version of the Joseph story is the novel by Thomas Mann, _Joseph and his Brothers_. The usual literary pooh-bahs like to say that _The Magic Mountain_ is Mann's greatest novel, but it is not. J his B is. Thanks, Barkley. And to think, I was on a

[PEN-L:863] Re: Re: Re: Re: basic question on Min Wage

1998-11-03 Thread Michael Eisenscher
At 05:35 PM 11/3/98 -0800, Ellen Dannin wrote: Robert Saute [EMAIL PROTECTED] What percentage of the labor force fall into the categories "professional, executive, and administrative personnel"? In 1997: 29% of the workforce was managerial and professional. 14% was

Re: [PEN-L:856] matter of importance

1998-11-03 Thread Peter Dorman
It is alarming that the AEA has refused to discuss this matter with URPE. I certainly support efforts within the AEA to reverse this crackdown, but we should not assume that this is our only recourse. The case for preserving URPE's presence at ASSA can, if necessary, also be made through direct

[PEN-L:862] Re: Re: Re: basic question on Min Wage

1998-11-03 Thread Ellen Dannin
Robert Saute [EMAIL PROTECTED] What percentage of the labor force fall into the categories "professional, executive, and administrative personnel"? Michael Yates did a great job summarizing some of the many and complex exemptions from coverage of the FLSA. To know whether any exemption

[PEN-L:856] matter of importance

1998-11-03 Thread michael
Forwarded message: Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Fleck_S [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:42:35 -0500 Michael, This letter went out to URPE members a couple of weeks ago. Please circulate via

[PEN-L:855] Re: Valis on Cockburn IV

1998-11-03 Thread valis
Max Sawicky wrote, in a CARE package of comic relief bound for Holland: You're wrong, valis. We here in "Washington," that place upon which you wished the Ebola virus, have a full dossier on you. For instance, we know that you cultivate begonias, you are susceptible to hay fever, and your