Carrol, my e-mail system sucks nowadays, so some of pen-l messages
have suddenly disappeared. Some of them don't even reach to my current
address and bounce back.I will be transferred to a new system soon. If i
am not mistaken, you were talking about the following:
I did not say that capitalism
Mark Jones alludes to a so-called upswing in world economy after 1931.
This seems somewhat of an absurdity . It is mainly in the world capitalist
crisis in the 30s
--especially deep in those capitals severely sanctioned/restricted by
the winning imperialists
of WW1 -- and also following
JUNE 27, 21:14 EDT
UN: Mongolian Drought Causing Havoc
By HARMONIE TOROS
Associated Press Writer
UNITED NATIONS (AP) - A severe drought followed by Mongolia's worst
winter in 30 years has killed millions of livestock, creating an
economic crisis for 500,000 Mongolians, U.N. and Mongolian
Brad De Long wrote:
Does this mean that our ultimate goal is to get human population
down to one billion? I can see how we can stabilize world
population at 10 billion (maybe). I can't see how to get it down to
one billion...
Our resident Club of Rome is extremely discreet on the population
David, where I was wrong in the way I answered Lou, and I've been thinking
about it for hours, was in the absurdly uncomradely way I dismissied Nader -
uncomradely to Lou, that is. If he feels and people I respect feels there is
some point to promoting Nader, then it's crass for someone to arrive
Jim Devine wrote:
if there's no _reason_ for the exponential increases, they're worth
forgetting.
Well, the increases in oil and energy consumption are matters of fact, of
history. The problem is (a) explain and (b) propose effective policies
against.
Albert Bartlett seemed to assume that
Yes, I used the wrong tone in speaking of Nader.
Let us hope you are right about him.
Mark Jones
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Mark Jones
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Last month there was a significant article in China Daily strongly
suggesting that Beijing will model some of its plans on the Tracker Fund
set up by the Hong Kong government last year to deal with the massive
volume of shares it bought during its successful stock market intervention
against
Ken Livingstone is already supping with capitalism with not too long a spoon.
Due to be formally invested on Monday as London Mayor of London, Ken
Livingstone told GMTV's The Sunday Programme that he was in discussion
with major international firms who have investment programmes planned in
G'day Chris,
Yeah, it's a tad precious to criticise political leaders/administrators of
small polities for playing the game in which they, and their constituents,
find themselves. London's economy does, I'd have thought, depend more than
most directly on the finance sector, though, and I'd be
Below is revised version of post I sent to pen-l several months ago...
Michael Hoover
Of some 2 million farms in US, about 90% of farms are classified as
"individual operations" averaging about 362 acres. "Partnership" farms
average about 850 acres, average "corporate" farm acreage is about
forwarded by Michael Hoover
Published on Friday, June 30, 2000 in the Washington Times [via
http://www.commondreams.org ]
Gore Resists Calls To Halt Oil Drilling in Colombia
by Bill Sammon
Vice President Al Gore, who controls at least $500,000 worth of stock in
Occidental Petroleum,
Lou,
Multiply this baneful pattern across the world. Meanwhile, the classic
pastoralists, who have historically provided most of the meat in Africa
with grazing systems closely adapted to varying environments, are being
marginalized. Grain-based livestock production inexorably leads to larger
Ken Hanly:
Are thes disaster scenarios depicted the exception rather than the
rule? Are
ranchers in Alberta, Montana, Saskatchewan, South Dakota, Manitoba, creating
similar scenarios?
Donald Worster, "Under Western Skies":
So far we have seen shelves and shelves of books written on the
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It is helpful to have some relatively unadorned data on agriculture.
Numerically it is ludicrous to speak of small farms as being dead but the
percentage of total farm produce they create obviously is not large and I
expect it has decreased from earlier times.
Is there are any breakdown of
NY Times 2 July 2000
Old-Line Communists at Odds With Party in China
By ELISABETH ROSENTHAL
SHENYANG, China -- For more than 40 years, Zhou Wei found success as
a Communist Party cadre in government bureaus and state-owned
enterprises, the kind of loyal official whose hard work kept the
July 2, 2000
Vieques Activists Arrested at Home
Filed at 3:54 p.m. EDT
By The Associated Press
SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) -- U.S. marshals fanned out across Puerto
Rico on Sunday, arresting dozens of anti-Navy activists at home for
refusing to post bail on federal trespassing charges.
I think that the basic problem that we have been debating is whether the
economy is extractive or productive. Let me choose a couple of names to
illustrate my point.
Mark says that we are running out of energy -- suggesting that the
economy is extractive. Doug mentioned that profit-oriented
Michael posits that the two camps in our heated discussion are "extractive"
vs. "productive." Another way of dividing the two is "efficiency" vs.
"sufficiency." The former could be thought of as Doug (or Amory Lovins)
who at least entertain the idea that technology will save the day -- and
the
Michael Perelman wrote:
I wonder if we can discuss this intelligently or if the question is too
theological.
Only by grounding the discussion in politics rather than science, morality,
or economics (or any other domain I have failed to name).
Carrol
Mark:
Your argument is seriously marred by the notion of Nader as a political
detour. The implication is that in his absence, the mass anger would assume
a more acceptable form. I believe in critical support of Nader, but I reject
both of your premises. At this time, at least in electoral
July 3, 2000
Digital Economy's Demand for
Steady Power Strains Utilities
By BARNABY J. FEDER
ead-Rite, an electronic components maker in Milpitas,
Calif., has been in no position to complain whenever
fluctuations in electrical service shut
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