To Jim Devine:

One problem with the theory of bureaucratic collectivism is that the USSR
et al are now (or are becoming) capitalist, with the ruling class including
most of the same people as before.

Another classical problem with BC theory is, what class are the producers?
Max Shachtman, a founding father, toyed with the idea that the producers were
slaves. But he often as not referred to them as workers because, well, they
were. And workers, whatever the infinite gradations of form, are exploited by
capitalists.

I'm curious to know whether any BC theorist has tried to analyze the laws of
motion of this society. From what I've seen the society has been defined by
what it isn't, not by what it is.

Walter Daum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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