Blair wrote
And you a Marxist! Doug, theory tells us that the rate of profit falls over
time. These data must be incorrect! ;-)
Tsk, tsk, Blair! You left out the crucial term "tendency". Virtually all of
Das Kapital is an exercise in explaining what the capitalists do to _resist_
this tendency
Tom Walker wrote:
Blair wrote
And you a Marxist! Doug, theory tells us that the rate of profit falls over
time. These data must be incorrect! ;-)
To Doug: when are you going to define and measure the empirical statistics
that you use in a Marxist way?
To Blair: (a) as you know, there is
Ok, Blair, what's your line on this then?!
BLS DAILY REPORT, WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 23, 1996
RELEASED TODAY: In April through June of 1996, there were 1,247 mass layoff
actions by employers, resulting in the separation of 226,449 workers from
their jobs. A year earlier, employers reported 1,670 layoff events and
385,644 laid-off workers in
I wrote,
Tom: I'm not clear if you missed the all-important "wink" at the end of my
comments to Doug. Marx spent twice as many pages (K, vol. III, chs. 14 and
15) elaborating the "countertendencies" as he did the tendency itself (ch.
13). In my reading of CAPITAL, Marx was arguing not *for* but
Blair wrote
And you a Marxist! Doug, theory tells us that the rate of profit falls over
time. These data must be incorrect! ;-)
Tsk, tsk, Blair! You left out the crucial term "tendency". Virtually all of
Das Kapital is an exercise in explaining what the capitalists do to _resist_
this tendency
Blair Sandler wrote:
I'm having a deja vu: in their "job security" agreement with GM, the CAW
agree to let GM cut jobs if (1) productivity increases; (2) technology
changes; (3) market share declines; or (4) a product line is discontinued.
It's not clear to me what the CAW gained,
At 4:50 AM 10/24/96, Gerald Levy wrote:
To Doug: when are you going to define and measure the empirical statistics
that you use in a Marxist way?
Jerry, dear Comrade, stop being so coy and tell me what *you* think, since
you've so obviously reworked the stinking capitalist hyena data produced
Blair Sandler wrote:
Marx spent twice as many pages (K, vol. III, chs. 14 and
15) elaborating the "countertendencies" as he did the tendency itself (ch.
13). In my reading of CAPITAL, Marx was arguing not *for* but *against* the
Ricardian notion that the rate of capital falls.
Certainly,
Doug Henwood wrote:
RATES OF RETURN ON CAPITAL IN THE BUSINESS SECTOR
from OECD Economic Outlook, June 1996, table A25
197919891995
U.S.16.017.318.3
Japan 14.415.813.3
Germany 11.712.513.8
G7 average 14.3
Because I wanted you to have premier...
Visit of WB president J.Wolfensohn to the Institute of Social Studies,
Den Haag, 24th October 1996.
A `non-objective' briefing.
JW made an initial speech of some 20 min., which was followed by a
question and answer session. He performed quite well,
I would try to explain the logic of capital in relation to king profit,
including why companies would go overseas (incidently not all companies are
in a position to do so --depends on what they produce), but I would also
explain the implications of doing that for labor in the home compapnies
Tomorrow, I hope that I can remember myself, I am going to ask all posters
from the U.S. to hold off posting to pen-l to encourage those from other
countries to introduce themselves or to tell us how pen-l could serve them
better.
We have probably 100 people from outside of the U.S. We get
CANAL DE NOTICIAS NBC (the 24hr Spanish cable news station) is showing a
special news report on "Marcos y la Revolution" tomorrow - Wednesday October
23rd at 10am, 3pm and 10pm.
Please double check the times in your own area and send this message on to
anyone who might be interested.
From: asiet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Oct. 28 for Indonesia East Timor
Path: asiet
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 04:58 AEST
ROUND-UP OF ACTIONS BEING ORGANISED FOR OCTOBER 28 AS OF THURSDAY, OCTOBER
24, 1996.
FURTHER INFORMATION WILL BE REPORTED AS IT COMES TO HAND.
In solidarity,
Max
There will be an interview with Subcomandante Marcos on CNBC at 10P.M. at
East Coast time (9 central, 8 mountain, 7 west coast). It is twenty minutes
long and very current. We suggest that you call CNBC at 704-329-8700 and
express your opinion after seeing the interview.
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When I started at IBM several
Doug presented some OECD data indicating that the profit rate is
rising for many countries. Others wondered about whether this
fits with Marx. Yet others noted that it depends on how one
measures the rate of profit.
On the latter question, I think it's useful to use Fred Moseley's
Teach Both! Corporations can choose to exploit their workers, or they can
choose to cooperate with their workers to stay competitive. Many Am.
corporations have chosen the first option, whereas the second is more
widespread in some European countries. Obviously, the second option is
better for
Tomorrow, I hope that I can remember myself, I am going to ask all posters
from the U.S. to hold off posting to pen-l to encourage those from other
countries to introduce themselves or to tell us how pen-l could serve them
better.
We have probably 100 people from outside of the U.S. We get
Jerry commented on Steve's book:
Also, see Steve
Cullenberg's book, THE FALLING RATE OF PROFIT: RECASTING THE MARXIAN
DEBATE, Pluto Press, 1994.
Steve's book is an interpretation of debates _among Marxists_ concerning
the FRP rather than an interpretation of Marx _per se_. He makes this
I wrote,
On the other hand, CAW workers got health and some other benefits for
same-sex partners.
And Rudy replied,
Although I haven't seen the details of the CAW agreement I would tend to
agree with your first assessment. Giving health and other benefits for same
sex partners is probably
On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Helene Jorgensen wrote:
Teach Both! Corporations can choose to exploit their workers, or they can
choose to cooperate with their workers to stay competitive. Many Am.
corporations have chosen the first option, whereas the second is more
widespread in some European
(offered on the basis that it's not tomorrow in chicago yet)
for halloween, i'm going as a Neoclassical Economist.
costume: suit, with buttons:
"I Believe Neoclassical Economics"
"NAFTA -- We Hafta"
"Union Wages are a RENT"
"Save the Whales -- Buy Pollution Credits"
"Improve Productivity --
Hi, folks:
Next spring I'll be teaching intro macro at UC extension (evening class)
and I get to choose the textbook! I've been working as contract labor, and
this is the first time I get to choose my own textbook. My excitement at
this FREEDOM OF CHOICE :) is tempered only by the accompanying
Helene Jorgensen counterposed exploitation with labor-management
cooperation. But there is no necessary contradiction here: exploitation is
all too compatible with labor-management cooperation ("jointness"). In
liberal North America people tend to use the word exploitation to indicate
situations
I'm afraid to say this, but isn't a USA-free day a case of (gasp)
CENSORSHIP?
if so, it's a good idea. Maybe, some time, we could have a USA-free
day for the world as a whole, not just for pen-l.
BTW, the current issue of Left Business Observer is very good, as
usual.
in pen-l
I'm afraid to say this, but isn't a USA-free day a case of (gasp)
CENSORSHIP?
if so, it's a good idea. Maybe, some time, we could have a USA-free
day for the world as a whole, not just for pen-l.
i warming up for when us OZ types and etc will rule pen-l for 24 hours at
least. (note
Michael wrote:
Tomorrow, I hope that I can remember myself, I am going to ask all posters
from the U.S. to hold off posting to pen-l to encourage those from other
countries to introduce themselves or to tell us how pen-l could serve them
better.
We have probably 100 people from outside of the
This is a very good proposal to give us one day a week for picnic. I would
like to add to his proposal this one: We should have one day a week
"European Forum," One day "Asian Forum," and one day "Third World Forum."
We shoud set aside one day to air each forum. The US posters should be
silent
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