Blair presents a
bibliography, without a clear summary of the content of the books.
For example, Laurie Garrett's book seems more an example of
left-inflenced science journalism than of postmodernism.
As I said, Jim, more will be coming later (I'm working under multiple
rapidly approaching
I don't know why people think pomo is so difficult. Here's a young twenties
non-native English speaker expressing his understanding of my classroom
discussions of Neoclassical reductionism and Marxian overdetermination:
Blair
Thanks Blair
Your answers were helpful. What I'm trying to find out
At 10:04 AM 11/1/96, Antonio Callari wrote:
Pomo has great practical, political implications and that is why people
like me and Steve and Blair and Medley like it and work with it--at least
that's why I work with it, not to run away from political activism, but to
facilitate it. See, all of you
Doug Henwood wrote:
Old language: "The boss is screwing you. Organize and fight back."
New language: "The metanarratives are all broken. Liberate yourself through
freeplay in the deliciously slippery world of discourse!"
This is progress?
No, it's not progress.
It's not progress when
Thanks to Steve Cullenberg for summarizing _Spectres_. Steve's summary is
pretty close to the impression I got looking at the book. My decision not to
buy and read the book had more to do with my needs and interests as a reader
than with an abstract standard of what any book referring to Marx
It is late on Friday and I want to go home, but do you in all seriousness
want me to believe that our saying that you don't know "Derrida from
dogfood" is the same as saying that you didn't know "Derrida from diamonds
or dictionaries or duality theory".
Presumably Jim's "don't know Derrida from
Antonio, it would help me to understand your position if you could explain
exactly how pomo helped you to work with the battered women.
Michael,
I thought I had; but obviously I must not have been clear. So, let me try
it again.
First, (and this is a point I had not made), my choice of this
Doug Henwood asked,
Old language: "The boss is screwing you. Organize and fight back."
New language: "The metanarratives are all broken. Liberate yourself through
freeplay in the deliciously slippery world of discourse!"
This is progress?
The old language is clear. In light of the tragic --
Old language: "The boss is screwing you. Organize and fight back."
New language: "The metanarratives are all broken. Liberate yourself through
freeplay in the deliciously slippery world of discourse!"
Actually Doug, you are not that far off, except for the "liberate yourself"
part. I suspect
friends,
it is hard to see how this discussion of postmodernism could remind anyone of
the moscow show trials. try as they might the psotmodernists just do not seem
to be able to demonstrate much practical relevance for their ideas. how, for
example, will postmodern ideas help rebuild the
I agree very much with Tom Walker's point below, which is snipped from his
longer post. The simultaneity of examining both the material conditions
and the "work of art" itself goes right to heart of what I think is
necessary. And, I doubt very many would disagree on this list, as I doubt
there
On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Blair Sandler wrote:
I hate to say it but UMass Amherst is the obvious place to go, with Rick
Wolff, Steve Resnick, Sam Bowles, Nancy Folbre (and Ann Ferguson down the
hall), Julie Graham in geography, David Kotz, Jim Crotty, Jim Boyce, even
(shudder) Herb Gintis.
it is hard to see how this discussion of postmodernism could remind anyone of
the moscow show trials. try as they might the psotmodernists [...]
but it seems silly to respond to doug and others who criticize the pomos
by accusing them of stalinism.
michael yates
Just to set the record
Entering the fray here, and will return to my shell immediately after this
post. Apologies in advance to any who feel that it is not appropriate to
de-lurk and then lurk again so swiftly.
On the pomo thread, there are at least fifteen different points of debate
floating around, so let me take
While we're on the subject of identities - from another list...
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS November 2, 1996
By SCOTT LINDLAW
Associated Press Writer
GLENDALE, Calif. (AP) -- Elizabeth Michael's answering machine
announces that she's ``out trying to overthrow the government.''
It is all very well for Michael P. to ask for politeness, but there was
nothing polite about Doug Henwood's posting. It struck me as a deliberate
effort to "tar by association," in fact to imply that THIS is the REAL
politics of those on Pen-l who find something useful in postmodern thought.
Dear Michael Yates,
i read a. callari's discussion of his work with battered women with interest,
but i must say i don't see how any person, blessed with some common sense and
sympathy plus a radical view of the world, might not have achieved the same
results.
My explanation of the link between
I can only say that I have disagreed with Steve Resnick a number of times,
and never received the treatment Baiman describes. Steve Resnick has a
strong personality. He doesn't put up with shit, as they say. And he is a
decent person and dedicated teacher. I can't imagine him having thrown you
I think pomo is seen as difficult to engage because it's core concept is that
there is more than one truth. If one can't preach the ultimate truth, then
one can't be a hero. If one can't be a hero, one will take her/his toys and
go home.
sincerely,
maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Blair Sandler wrote:
I hate to say it but UMass Amherst is the obvious place to go, with Rick
Wolff, Steve Resnick, Sam Bowles, Nancy Folbre (and Ann Ferguson down the
hall), Julie Graham in geography, David Kotz, Jim Crotty, Jim Boyce, even
(shudder) Herb Gintis. :)
"Identity politics" is redundant. All politics is identity politics for no
other reason than that political action must be conducted in a particular
place and in a particular language. It's a non sequitur to say that identity
politics per se is "reactionary" or "progressive" or "futile".
I think pomo is seen as difficult to engage because it's core concept is that
there is more than one truth. If one can't preach the ultimate truth, then
one can't be a hero. If one can't be a hero, one will take her/his toys and
go home.
Maggie said the above.
the trouble with truth and
At 6:24 PM 11/2/96, S. Charusheela wrote:
It is all very well for Michael P. to ask for politeness, but there was
nothing polite about Doug Henwood's posting. It struck me as a deliberate
effort to "tar by association," in fact to imply that THIS is the REAL
politics of those on Pen-l who find
Antonio, it would help me to understand your position if you could explain
exactly how pomo helped you to work with the battered women.
The second way in which pomo helped me in the work with battered women
(this is the point I thought I was making in the original message) was that
it let me
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