[PEN-L:7656] Re: The Long Term (Henwood)

1996-11-29 Thread blairs
Here's the history of U.S. employment gain and loss over the last 15 years. TOTAL EMPLOYMENT (thousands) loss 1981-82 - 2,761 gain 1982-90 +21,229 loss 1990-92 - 1,394 gain since 1990+12,150 total since 1981 +29,224 What's the trend, and what's the cycle? Doug:

[PEN-L:7663] Re: The Long Term (Henwood)

1996-11-29 Thread Doug Henwood
At 12:07 PM 11/29/96, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug: wouldn't the relevant statistic require comparing job creation with "labor force creation?" Doesn't change a thing; they two have grown pretty much in line for the last umpteen decades. If they hadn't, unemployment would be in a secular

[PEN-L:7665] Re: The Long Term (Henwood)

1996-11-29 Thread Doug Henwood
At 1:08 PM 11/29/96, Tom Walker wrote: So in part we're comparing apples and oranges. But perhaps Doug could comment a bit on the rigour of the BLS's definitions of "economic" and "non-economic" part-time employment. For example, in computing official unemployment statistics, "discouraged

[PEN-L:7664] Re: strange bedfellows

1996-11-29 Thread Doug Henwood
At 12:08 PM 11/29/96, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is another red herring, Doug. Right-wing, reactionary, corporate politics comes more often in the modernist than the "social constructionist" form. Your insistence on pinning all the evils of capitalism on post-modernism (or social

[PEN-L:7653] Re: The Long Term (Henwood)

1996-11-29 Thread Tom Walker
O.K., Doug, you win, U.S. workers have never had it so good ;-) It's just us deluded, apocalytic ignoramuses who are imagining a fundamental and frightening change for the worse. But there it is, clear as day, in the selective statistics you present: everything is under control; nothing can go

[PEN-L:7666] Re: The Long Term (Henwood)

1996-11-29 Thread Tom Walker
Doug Henwood wrote, The rigor of the definition is irrelevant to judging the trend, as is the level of aggregation, since this has been a discussion about the nature of "work" in general. Aronowitz DiFazio said, for example, that "most" of the jobs created in the early 1990s have been

[PEN-L:7659] urgent action (fwd)

1996-11-29 Thread D Shniad
Christian Task Force on Central America November 27, 1996. --- URGENT ACTION GUATEMALAURGENT ACTION GUATEMALA WORKERS AT INEXPORT MAQUILA ILLEGALLY FIRED. Dear Friends, On February 12 1996

[PEN-L:7650] Part II: Scientific Laws Of Political Economy

1996-11-29 Thread SHAWGI TELL
Even such a normal law as the "average" rate of profit is in shambles. The monopoly capitalists do not accept an "average" profit. They do not accept that for the capitalist system to function, profit must be "shared" throughout the system or extended reproduction cannot take place without grave

[PEN-L:7649] Re: The Long Term (Yates)

1996-11-29 Thread Doug Henwood
At 5:45 AM 11/29/96, Tom Walker wrote: Yes, Rifkin manages to insert a dollop of utterly absurd hyperbole -- I don't know if that makes him a charlatan or just a self-absorbed story-teller. Hyperbole is his favorite mode - it attracts attention, as well as funding. He knows exactly what song to

[PEN-L:7662] Re: The Long Term (Henwood)

1996-11-29 Thread Doug Henwood
At 11:45 AM 11/29/96, Tom Walker wrote: O.K., Doug, you win, U.S. workers have never had it so good ;-) It's just us deluded, apocalytic ignoramuses who are imagining a fundamental and frightening change for the worse. But there it is, clear as day, in the selective statistics you present:

[PEN-L:7661] Re: The Long Term (Henwood)

1996-11-29 Thread Tom Walker
Doug Henwood wrote, In its latest Employment Outlook, the OECD found no secular increase in part-time employment... - snip, snip - ...Here are the part-time stats for the U.S., also one of the least regulated labor markets in the First World. The label "econ" means part-time for economic

[PEN-L:7669] Re: The Long Term

1996-11-29 Thread Tavis Barr
On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Max B. Sawicky wrote: The sphere to which I allude is not only the Beltway scene, much beloved by followers of this list, but also the hinterlands. Has anyone been aware of JR involved in any politics -- even political statements -- other than book-tour stuff? If

[PEN-L:7657] Re: strange bedfellows

1996-11-29 Thread blairs
Social constructionists come in so many forms From the latest Rachel's weekly newsletter, titled Political Science: On the other hand, in the arena of environmental regulation, the same corporations (and their same representatives in Congress) are working hard to undermine the credibility

[PEN-L:7660] Mersey thanks to Mexican dockers (fwd)

1996-11-29 Thread D Shniad
Forwarded message: Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 13:23:04 + Reply-To: Forum on Labor in the Global Economy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: Forum on Labor in the Global Economy [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: LabourNet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mersey thanks to Mexican dockers To: Ing Luis Enrique

[PEN-L:7667] Re: The Long Term (Henwood)

1996-11-29 Thread Doug Henwood
At 5:04 PM 11/29/96, Tom Walker wrote: The rigour of definition and level of aggregation is relevant. The BLS data Doug cited showed "non-economic" part-time work nearly doubling in 36 years and "economic" part-time work staying flat. If the definition of economic part-time work is so narrow

[PEN-L:7658] Re: The Long Term (Yates)

1996-11-29 Thread blairs
Having committed the venal sin of actually having read Rifkin's book as well as Aronowitz DiFazio's, Yates' and several others I would second Michael's opinion of Aronowitz Difazio's book. Rifkin's is more interesting than AD's, but mostly because of the material he gleans from (and jazzes up)

[PEN-L:7668] Re: The Long Term

1996-11-29 Thread Max B. Sawicky
Tom Walker wrote: Doug Henwood wrote, I just get irritated when Rifkin's stale idiocies are presented as fresh advances in human thought. I can sympathize with Doug's irritation. Rifkin adds nothing to the discussion other than a popularizing zeal and a slick presentation. Rifkin . .

[PEN-L:7655] Excellent article on Middle East peace talks

1996-11-29 Thread D Shniad
The Nation October 14, 1996 As the prospects for Middle East peace fade away, cynicism and suspicion take over. MYTH OF THE 'PAX AMERICANA' By Robert Fisk From Afghanistan to the Mediterranean, it is now possible to travel through